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Demigorgona
Sunday, December 1st, 2002, 09:33 AM
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/797950/posts

After a 90-minute debate, HB 1493, which adds “sexual orientation,” “gender” and “gender” identity to Pennsylvania’s “ethnic intimidation” statute, passed the House by a vote of 118-79. Having already passed the State Senate last year, the measure now goes to Governor Mark Schweiker. He can either sign it, making it law in Pennsylvania, or veto it, which will kill the legislation.

Please Call Governor Mark Schweiker at (717) 787-2500 or (800) 932-0784, and urge him to veto House Bill 1493, the “Hate Crimes Amendment."

snakebytez
Sunday, December 1st, 2002, 05:53 PM
I hate it when the government wants to discriminate against ordinary citizens by claiming to be reducing discrimination against the minorities. That resolution should indeed be vetoed.

JohnWBooth
Tuesday, December 17th, 2002, 03:56 AM
Sounds to me like a fags & transvestite rights bill to me

DAVE_NYC
Friday, May 2nd, 2003, 05:24 PM
Name Creary, Dr. Nicholas M.
Phone (414) 288-1635
Position Assistant Professor
Department/Office History
Location Coughlin Hall 300
Email Address ncreary@marquette.edu


Citing "unnecessary economic and social harm" due to racial segregation, the Milwaukee County board of supervisors on Wednesday convened the first of five meetings of the Task Force on Segregation and Race Relations.

Marquette Associate History Professor Nicholas Creary addressed the committee, explaining the foundation of racism in the United States from a historical context.

He said racism is mostly a Western phenomenon rooted in inaccurate understandings of different cultures by early European explorers.

Perceptions that non-European cultures were inferior gave rise to the slave trade, which is ultimately the base for American racial tension, Creary said.

"This, very simply, is racism," Creary said. "They never went to experience the kingdoms of Africa."


http://134.48.55.172:8000/tribune/t...ml?n-race050103

Conquistador
Sunday, May 4th, 2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by DAVE_NYC
....Perceptions that non-European cultures were inferior gave rise to the slave trade, which is ultimately the base for American racial tension, Creary said...

Non-European cultures ARE inferior; perception or not.


Originally posted by DAVE_NYC
...."This, very simply, is racism," Creary said. "They never went to experience the kingdoms of Africa."...

Liberals always think with their emotions, don't they. They can never see beyond logic and reasonable thinking. Another reason why liberal lemmings should never breed, ever.

DAVE_NYC
Sunday, May 4th, 2003, 11:05 PM
To whom it may concern...This is just an article that I found interesting and I had nothing to do in writing it...Nor do I believe in what it says.
I just wanted to see what kind of feedback it would bring.

Conquistador
Sunday, May 4th, 2003, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by DAVE_NYC
To whom it may concern...This is just an article that I found interesting and I had nothing to do in writing it...Nor do I believe in what it says.
I just wanted to see what kind of feedback it would bring.

I know you had nothing to do with the article. It clearly states that Dr. Creary said the quotes, not you.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 08:33 PM
Why was he banned?

EDIT: Disregard.

Thorburn
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 08:38 PM
Why was he banned?

EDIT: Disregard.
http://www.forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=54391&postcount=19

Demigorgona
Thursday, March 18th, 2004, 11:10 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

2. Do you smoke?

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

6. Favourite Song?

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

RedEgosyntonicSun
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 01:06 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life? - Gerar Depardio has chances


2. Do you smoke?
- Sometimes


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for? - You are asking answer here ...


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?
- Well, if the pet is my recent cat I would bring her back ,.......just kidding /don't tell her about this here/


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?- "He shouldn't join Skadi"


6. Favourite Song?- "tra la la la "..and variations of it


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?
- :) Active hero in a quality porn movie


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?
- They are wrong.


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?
- "don't grow old"


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?
- Understanding woman's behaviour and their strange questions...;)


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?
- Blotto


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?
- Ooh no,....see answer #10


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?
- You are really bored, aint you ?

Krampus
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 01:36 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Christopher Walken-my favorite actor

2. Do you smoke?

Yes Camels, but only 2 packs a week.

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Any Skadi member? Well myself of course.

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

That case of pretty shiny yellow bars with eagles stamped on them.

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

I want to be cremated so no gravestone for me.

6. Favorite Song?

Beethoven’s 9th

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Jack Nickelson in The Shinning.

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

How I had it all and lost it back again.

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Pick Finance as a major and avoid the nutcase woman across the street.

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Money and/or finance skills.

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

Well, a few people I've known who have died, other than that no one.

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

The idiot who coined the phrase "soul mate" or "love of my life" should be hung naked, smeared with honey and left to rot on next to a colony of killer bees.

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

Welcome to the Machine by Pink Floyd.
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Demigorgona
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 02:38 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Julia Roberts




2. Do you smoke?

Yes




3. If a Yp'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

I'll be a brown noser and say njord ;P




4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

Photos or my computer...




5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Only the good die young (I hope i die old ... lol)




6. Favourite Song?

Simple Man - Lynard Skynard




7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

hehe William Wallace in Braveheart, that would be fun




8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

war! either that or vampires...




9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Do not go to Cuba




10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

I really really wish I could whistle, I know that is trivial and such ... but i have always wanted to be able to whistle.




11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

hmmm I don't know, I guess my best friend from childhood...




12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

I have my 'one love' right now




13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

Story of my life - Social D lol

AngryPotato
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 02:50 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Val Kilmer

2. Do you smoke?

No

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Dr Solar Wolff

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

I have a huge candle holder that is made of iron and shaped as a winged knight. Made in Mass by JWH studio. My favorite possession.

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

I want a pyre, but if I have to have a gravestone: Blood & Honor

6. Favourite Song?

The End by The Doors

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Michael Caine in Zulu. Who else gets to order the mass slaughter of negras?

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Bunny Rabbits & Hamsters & Guinie Pigs. Watership Down is one of my favorite books and I believe that I could create a fantastic kids book with small, furry animals as the main characters.

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

She wants it. Buy the Honda instead. Go to University of Michigan and finish it. Drop the losers. *SLAP to the back of the head* Straighten up white man.

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Artistic/Musical talent.

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

The other E is still my friend, but a long lost one. Perhaps I should go looking for him. There's a damn good reason for anyone that I wouldn't consider a friend any longer. No regrets.

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

No, they've all been psycho. Maybe its just me? Maybe its women in general? ;)

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

The Unforgiven by Metallica

Awar
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 03:12 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

I don't know about the actors, but Kubrick should definitely direct :)


2. Do you smoke?

Nope. Some marijuana once or twice a year.


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Rusalka, of course :)


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My PC :shrug


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

I want a Viking funeral.


6. Favourite Song?

Whole Lotta Love


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Han Solo, obvious reasons :)


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

It wouldn't be a novel, but a holy scripture ;)


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Become even tougher


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Discipline


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

No such person.


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

No, but I'm looking forward to having a 'one love'.


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

probably something by Radiohead :)

Jack
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 04:03 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Edward Norton.


. Do you smoke?

After quitting for three weeks, yes.


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Njörd, because then I can be myself, i.e. anything :)


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

Notes from the Underground by Fyodor Dostoyevsky.


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

See you on the other side.


6. Favourite Song?

Angus Dei - Samuel Barber.


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Tyler Durden. For obvious reasons :D


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Losing sanity.


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

"Start drinking younger than I did."


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Mind-reading.


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

Me, five years ago.


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

Not yet, I'm trying to get it right first time 'round.


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

I'm not driving anymore - Rob Dougan.

Angelcynn Beorn
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 04:39 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Russel Crowe.

2. Do you smoke?

No.

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Probably Loki.

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

I honestly dont know, i dont get to emtionally attached to most inanimate things.

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

What are you looking at?

6. Favourite Song?

Tough one, used to be "when i come around" by green day.

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Indianna Jones, 'cos he gets to travel the pre-"global village" world and kill bad guys at will. ;)

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Some sort of Heroic fiction like LOTR if i could pull iot off.

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Dont fuck about, and be more straight-forward.

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Rhetoric. I dont have the patience or silver tongue to convince people im always right. :~(

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

Dont waste time thinking about that sort of thing.

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

No.

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

Going with Angry Potato here and saying Unforgiven.

Gesta Bellica
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 08:28 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Matt LeBlanc

2. Do you smoke?

No

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

None is worth enough

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My cd collection, even if it will take at least 30 minutes.

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

My name

6. Favourite Song?

Actually
Gary Hughes - "Kill the king"
Heir Apparent "Another candle" and "Keepr of the reign"
Riot "Bloodstreets"

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Russel Crowe in "the Gladiator"

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

The shortest book in the world

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Never look back

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Language skills

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

None. I hate them all

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

never had :)

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

SHELTER - Quest of certainty

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Sigrun Christianson
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 09:22 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?Bette Davis. Ja, I know she's dead.


2. Do you smoke?Yes.


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?Thorburn.


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?Photo albums.


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?Beloved Wife and Mother.


6. Favourite Song?Un Bel Dí.


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?Jessica Rabbit because I want to be a cartoon.


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?The life and works of Edgar Degas.


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?"Finish your degree, you lazy girl."


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?Financial intelligence.


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?A good friend who died last year.


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?No.


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?Silver Dagger.

Allenson
Friday, March 19th, 2004, 03:39 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Well, myself of course. :)


2. Do you smoke?

Only sometimes when I'm at a bar with friends having a few cold brews...


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Triglav would be good, so would LG, Rusalka, Njord....


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

Guitar, photo-albums or my genealogy files...


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Do not disurb--gone to Valhalla. ;)


6. Favourite Song?

'The Eleven' by the Warlocks


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Han Solo--cool spaceship and he scores with Princess Leia, lol...



8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Folkish-Heathen uprising. :-O



9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Stay away from Amanda!! :|



10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Time-travel. :)


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

No one, really.


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

Still got her! :P


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

'Lovin Cup' by the Rolling Stones.

Abby Normal
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 01:35 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?
Christina Ricci.


2. Do you smoke?
Only when I'm on fire.


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?
Lawrence of Arabia. Oh, wait, he died before Skadi was invented. (Oh, wait, who cares? ;) )


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?
The severed head of my uncle.


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?
Let us join in grief, rejoice in despair and honor the fortunate dead.


6. Favourite Song?
The Song of Death.


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?
Lawrence's girlfriend.


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?
It shall take place during the French Revolution, and I shall take part in the revolt at Vendee. Alas, I will be betrayed and executed on the guillotine (but in my next life, I shall have my revenge.)


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?
Don't throw sand in the other kindergartner's eyes, it only leads to trouble.


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?
Math, enough said. Colleges and schools place way too much emphasis on it, but there's no way I'll ever actually use it. I hate the hard sciences and technical junk.


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?
Ah, do I really need to name names here?


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?
No, he's dead. ;)


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?
The Monster Mash.

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 02:44 AM
Hmm, why not :D

1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Elizabeth Hurley, because it would be great to have such a gorgeous woman portray me hehehe!

2. Do you smoke?

Far too much!

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Well, myself, of course! BlottoBlottoBlotto would be my second choice...I would love to hear songs praising the name "BlottoBlottoBlotto" HAHAHA!!!

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My writing! AAACK! I would hate to lose all the thoughts I can't remember.

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Here Lies Death

6. Favourite Song?

Right now: "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" by Urge Overkill.

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

The guy from Memento. Just his life, I dont want to be a guy LOL!

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Death, decay, filth, destruction...rebirth, vengeance, passion!

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

I would not.

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Omnipotence.

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

I haven't spoken to an old friend of mine for a long time. I knew him since I was about five years old, and he was my best friend at many points in my life. We would be close for awhile, and then some circumstances would tear us away, but then by some weird reason we meet up again, finding out we have more in common then ever. This is going to happen soon again, I know.

]12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

Yes and No. :)

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

Sex on Wheels by the Thrill Kill Kult. Though not as you would take the lyrics completely literally :) There is probaqbly a better one.

i'll turn you on
like a tiger baby
hard body
motor city
love life
i'll take you for a ride
down the mindway baby
be my little human sacrifice
do my kisses burn
do they take your breath
you've got a lesson to learn now
i'm the kiss of death
history is written by winners baby
so let's make a little
of our own tonight
if you're thinkin' my idea of fun
is a drag
then you've never been to paradise
do my kisses burn
do they take your breath
you've got a lesson to learn now
i'm the kiss of death
sex on wheels

RedEgosyntonicSun
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 11:26 AM
If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?


Well, myself, of course! BlottoBlottoBlotto would be my second choice...
After we (You and I) conquer the whole Universe you'll be the Eternal and
Omnipotent Queen , you'll possess thousands of slaves working in your mines and I.............i'll be your favourite and faithful bootlicker sycophant (and the only one !) .....Thank you ! :) :|


I would love to hear songs praising the name "BlottoBlottoBlotto" HAHAHA!!!
HAHAHA !
When the Queen is the laughing her subordinates are laughing too :)
Love this :
"Blotty, you'll be a Blotto soon" - BlottoBlotto... feat. Urge Overkill

and about Death, decay, filth, destruction,rebirth, vengeance, passion:
http://free.techno-link.com/ANP/mp3/BG_Collection/Hipodil%20-%20Bate%20Goiko.mp3 (http://free.techno-link.com/ANP/mp3/BG_Collection/Hipodil%20-%20Bate%20Goiko.mp3)

And of course you know very well that you may call me shortly Blotto :shy (http://www.forums.skadi.net/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1#) :)

sincerely yours:
/ Blotto :soldier (http://www.forums.skadi.net/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1#)

RedEgosyntonicSun
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 11:53 AM
correction of:
5. What do you want your gravestone to say?


I'll be Back ! :cool (http://www.forums.skadi.net/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1#)

gorgeousgal2k2
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 11:57 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

The actress that was Polly in "Along Came Polly". I dont know her name, but her character was a bit like me, except I'm a little more weird. :D


2. Do you smoke? I used to, not very much, but I don't any more.


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for? Probably AWAR for some reason.


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?my oldest teddy bear...awwwww


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?I don't actually have a clue. I might have to tihnk about that one and come back to it.


6. Favourite Song?My favourite song at the minute is that drum and bass song "Zion will Fall". Draw your own conclusions. ;)


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?Mel Gibson in Braveheart, for some reason.


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?I've tried writing books, and was actually pretty good. A good one i started bt never finished was about two girls who moved into a house in a sweet, innocent looking village, which turned into a nightmare. It was really good, actually, if a little sick. :D


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?Don't come out at 13.


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?knowing how to do maths.


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?Sazzy and Charlene.


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had? I don't think i've had it in the first place...:( I'm not worried though, there's plenty of time...


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?Fight Music by Eminem.

Tommy Vercetti
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 07:16 PM
1.Eddie Murphy
2.No
3.Von Braun
4.My pocket vagina
5.If you dig me, dig me
6.Man of constant sorrow
7.Eddie Murphy, because he's funny and he has big dick
8.It would be about being mercenary
9.get laid everytime there's a chance
10.Skill to bullshit people
11.Comrad from childhood
12.Yes, My right hand is still attached to torso
13.Beck - Loser

Awar
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 07:19 PM
I can't believe this thread is still at it's first page :)

Taras Bulba
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 07:33 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Ralph Fiennes


2. Do you smoke?

Sometimes


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Milesian or myself :D


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My AK-47 of course! :D


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Patriot of Russia and Martyr for Christ


6. Favourite Song?

Hmmmnnn.......I guess the Red Army march "The Sacred War"


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

I guess it would be one of those Russian hijackers in "Air Force One"


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Probally something that takes place in the 19th century. Either during the Napoleonic Wars like Tolstoy's "War and Peace" or in the wars in the Caucacus like Lermontov's "A Hero of Our Time". Basically being a Russian soldier fighting for the Motherland.


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Thats classified information! :D ;)


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Mathematics, although like Adélaïde I think it's highly overestimated these days.

Abby Normal
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 08:36 PM
Interesting that so many of us admit to having insufficient math skills.

This serves as further proof of the irrelevence of math! ;)

Most of the "math whizzes" I know are incapable of being imaginitive, inventive or reflective, and have little to no skill in other areas. :D:D:D

Taras Bulba
Saturday, March 20th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Interesting that so many of us admit to having insufficient math skills.

This serves as further proof of the irrelevence of math! ;)

Most of the "math whizzes" I know are incapable of being imaginitive, inventive or reflective, and have little to no skill in other areas. :D:D:D
So true. I believe the humanities and social sciences are far too neglected in this day and age. Everybody seems to think computers and shit will solve everything. Pathetic really!

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Tuesday, March 23rd, 2004, 02:30 AM
After we (You and I) conquer the whole Universe you'll be the Eternal and
Omnipotent Queen , you'll possess thousands of slaves working in your mines and I.............i'll be your favourite and faithful bootlicker sycophant (and the only one !) .....Thank you ! :) :|

I am eagerly awaiting this day. I shall prepare the minions for the moment of take-over!



"Blotty, you'll be a Blotto soon" - BlottoBlotto... feat. Urge Overkill

LOL!!! I think I'll write some new lyrics for that song when I get a chance. It will be a call-to-arms!

I look forward to an eternity of tyrannical rule with you, dear Blotto! :D

Anne14
Thursday, April 8th, 2004, 07:46 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?
I guess Bridgette Fonda, people say we look alike

2. Do you smoke?
Nope - quit one year ago!

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?
No idea - too new yet

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?
Pictures

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?
Don't want one

6. Favourite Song?
Changes almost daily, but for today - My Immortal

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?
No clue

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?
My family maybe? Not real sure

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?
Buy a house now

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?
I wish I could paint/draw

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?
An old friend from high school that moved away - Karen

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?
I'm married to my one love

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?
no clue

Frans_Jozef
Thursday, April 8th, 2004, 08:43 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Patrick McGoohan

2. Do you smoke?

By preference, cigars

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Me, myself and I

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My authographed picture of Vincent Price, dedicated to me

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

I wish to be cremated and my ashes given to the wind and sea

6. Favourite Song?

Mad world(tears for fears),...etc...

7. If you could live the life of one
movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

James T. Kirk
To boldly go where no man has gone before
Quite an accomplishment these days with promiscuity all around us :D

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

A Time Traveller, a Zombie Hunter, a bored misanthropic sideliner...

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Encouraging myself to break my own barriers and seek out new frontiers....

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Artistic skills...to photograph, to paint, to direct a movie

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

A former internet friend from Lombardy... :(

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

Yes ;( ...I posted a webpage of hers:

http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=100756#post100756

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

Hurt by Johnny Cash...maybe :|

Willowsprout
Thursday, April 8th, 2004, 09:13 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life? i don't know

2. Do you smoke?
yes just started again shame on me am going to try and quit again.

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?
Im not sure right now WarMaiden is top of my list

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

nothing I got what I need

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?
BYE!FOR GOOD

6. Favourite Song?
"white flag" by Didi today tomorrow or in the next few minutes it will be different

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?
Cat in the Hat , cause he has alot of neat gagets

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?
I have no idea

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?
Party less

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?
math skills

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

My friend Jen she married a mexican and had his baby hes a loser drug addict! I miss her

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?
yes

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?"Unwell" cause im kinda nutty

Mac Seafraidh
Thursday, April 8th, 2004, 09:27 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Bobby DeNiro,who else lol

2. Do you smoke?

Yes I smoke butts, a variety of non-menthol Camels

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Hmm, myself

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

Trivial Persuit

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Not prepared for my epitaph yet, though it proabably would be a good thing.

6. Favourite Song?

Refer to Profile

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it
be and why?

Tommy DeVito from Goodfellas, I would have everyone laughin.

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

My own "My Struggle" and dealing with mental illness and how I would like to see the future.

9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

Cheer Up and do some chores for sh*ts sake. Stop being selfish.


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Well I am going to answer this question and rephrase it I wish I could get in to the automotive industry(which I still can), like European history and linguistics(forgot a lot of history and German do to my brain being idle and due to me medication.) I just realized this again in my life being an actor would be probably the best job in the world you could have because you can have any skill your heart desires pretty much if your name is big and whatever connection and scrpts you get. Unfortunately Jews do not seem to recruit too many people in the film industry. You see about 20 tops of new talent in a year.(In the mainstream US Hollywood for motion pictures)

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

Well, I wish I could get in touch with all the people I used to be in touch with in Middle School and perhaps were some of my best friends at one time.

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

I do not have a love life resume.

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?
LOL, Sorry about this, but I am going to mention a Doo Wop song(Yes primarily Negro, but Italian-Americans had the right touch."Why Must That Be A Teenager In Love." - Dion and the Belmonts(The only Doo Wop group)The reason I picked this because as I teenager I was attracted to many girls but shy as hell to talk to any when I was in Middle School and I think I missed out of childhood love.

Evolved
Sunday, April 11th, 2004, 03:41 AM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Christina Ricci
http://www.vampy.tv/baby/babyharmonyaddams2b.jpg


2. Do you smoke?

Nope. I tried, it is yucky. :)


3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

hamsum :P


4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My favorite pair of shoes!


5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Just my name and birth & death dates.


6. Favourite Song?

"Something To Live For"


7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

I think I'd like to be Sal from "Dog Day Afternoon." :D

http://www.urban.ne.jp/home/ubik/cinema/ohkami.jpg


8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

Serial killers.


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

I wouldn't. :)


10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

I wish I could play the piano. :)


11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

My neighbors from across the street.


12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

I have him, he posts here. :heartbeat


13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

The Animals - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood

WarMaiden
Tuesday, April 13th, 2004, 06:43 PM
1. What actor/actress should play you in the movie of your life?

Kate Winslet

2. Do you smoke?

NO

3. If a skadi'r had to be elected Supreme Ruler of the Universe, who would you vote for?

Not sure

4. Your house is on fire. You saved your family and pets and stupid crap like that, now you can go back for one more trivial thing. What would it be?

My Books

5. What do you want your gravestone to say?

Humankind Sucks and i'm glad i'm dead!


6. Favourite Song?

Forgotten Hopes by Anathema

7. If you could live the life of one movie character for one day, who would it be and why?

Gandalf the White

8. They say everyone has one great novel in them. What would yours be about?

How feminism and the church destroyed the Role of Women


9. If you could go back in time ten years and give yourself some advice, what would it be?

To never get a computer

10. What is one skill do you lack and wish you had?

Good memory and patience

11. What person is no longer your friend but you wish they were again?

I'm not a people person so nobody

12. Do you have that 'one love' that you wish you still had?

Absolutely Not!

13. If you could pick one song that well represented your life what would it be and why?

Celtic Crows by Hagalaz Runedance

Driving through the green island, the misty hills lit by the twilight
Breathing the frozen air, reminding me that the dark season is near
The mystic landscape makes me stop, take a walk through shadow fields
Three crows pass me by and in awe I remember their names and I call out
To the queens of war:

Nemain, Morrigan, Babh Catha
Three crows fly
Like ghosts from another time
Above me in the sky

In the shape of the blackest birds they once ruled the battlefields
Screaming for courage, screaming for vengeance, reaping the souls of the fallen
And all enemies would flee in fear at the sight of the grim war sisters
Oh mighty goddesses, I draw my sword, with you by my side I won't fight my battles alone

Nemain, Morrigan, Babh Catha…

Evolved
Monday, September 6th, 2004, 12:44 AM
(I think there is such a thing as being overprotective of one's culture.)


May 2004
‘Orthodox Bulldozer’
Artists whose works deal with religious themes are reviled by the Russian Orthodox Church, while the vandals who destroy their works are hailed as martyrs
By Konstantin Akinsha

In January a gang of vandals wearing camouflage gear invaded the S.P.A.S. Gallery in St. Petersburg and splattered paint and ink over an exhibition of Oleg Yanushevsky’s constructions, called “Contemporary Icons.” Yanushevsky’s ironic message—that President George W. Bush, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, and other political and pop-culture celebrities were the modern equivalents of holy figures—was considered an insult to the Russian Orthodox Church and to the sensibilities of believers. Although the works were destroyed and the gallery seriously damaged, the St. Petersburg prosecutor refused even to investigate the vandalism.

A similar incident in Moscow, a year earlier, had more serious consequences. In January 2003, a gang of Russian Orthodox activists destroyed an exhibition in the Sakharov Museum and Public Center called “Caution! Religion.” Last December two Sakharov Museum officials and three of the exhibition organizers were charged by the state prosecutor with inciting religious hatred. They face prison terms of up to five years. The vandals, meanwhile, were hailed by church officials as heroes and martyrs, and all criminal charges against them were dismissed.

These alarming events in the art world have taken place against a background of rising nationalism and Orthodox assertiveness. The Russian Orthodox Church has acquired enormous political clout in recent years, and few politicians will risk offending it. The Sakharov Museum exhibition was subjected to a vituperative media campaign, and the matter was almost immediately taken up in the Duma, where nationalist deputies vied with each other to denounce the sacrilegious artists and laud the vandals.

http://www.artnewsonline.com/images/Moscow.gif
Vandals sprayed “Vermin” and “Scum, you are
devils” over works by Alisa Zrazhevskaya and
Alexander Dorokhov at the Sakharov Museum.

In February 2003, the Duma passed a decree stating that the 1999 exhibition’s purpose had been to incite religious hatred and to insult the feelings of believers and the Orthodox Church. The state prosecutor was ordered to take action against the organizers, with 265 of 267 deputies present approving the measure. Sergei Yushenkov, leader of the Liberal Russia party and one of the two who voted against the measure, mounted the podium and stated sadly, “We are witnessing the origin of a totalitarian state led by the Orthodox Church.” (Yushenkov was murdered in Moscow a few weeks later. Four men were convicted of his murder in March.)

In April 2003, the Duma voted to toughen the law against inciting religious hatred by adding prison terms of up to five years for offenders. This was a direct reaction to the Sakharov Museum show. The law was invoked for the first time against Ter-Oganyan. It has never been used against anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi groups, which operate undisturbed.

“It’s a tragic situation,” Elena Bonner told ARTnews in a telephone interview from Boston, where she lives part of the time. Bonner, the widow of Nobel Prize–winning physicist and famous dissident Andrei Sakharov, is chair of the Sakharov Center, which was founded to educate Russians about their totalitarian past. “The events around the exhibition discredit the Russian Orthodox Church, just as the fatwah condemning Salman Rushdie to death discredited Islam,” she said. Bonner pointed out that the vandals had come to the museum prepared to be offended, with axes, hammers, and cans of spray paint in their pockets.

The organizers of “Caution! Religion” say that they wanted to attract attention to the new role of religious institutions in Russian life. In his speech at the show’s opening, curator Arutyun Zulumyan, who is now in hiding, called for a careful and respectful treatment of religion, but he also warned of the danger of religious fundamentalism, both Muslim and Russian Orthodox, and of the identification of the state with religion.

The 40 participants included artists from the United States, Japan, and Cuba, as well as Russia. One of the works was Russian-born American artist Alexander Kosolapov’s image of Christ on a Coca-Cola advertisement along with the words “Coca-Cola. This is my blood.” The face of Christ was obliterated. “As the owner of the artwork, I’m upset,” Kosolapov told ARTnews in a phone interview. “As an artist, I’m proud. I think their action adds value to my art—it still provokes such strong feelings.”

The vandals were locked in the gallery by an alert custodian and arrested by the police. But they had influential protectors. All of them were members of the congregation of St. Nicholas in Pyzhi, whose archpriest, Alexander Shargunov, is a well-known radical fundamentalist. A graduate of the Institute of Foreign Languages in Moscow and a former translator of poetry, Shargunov abandoned literature for the priesthood and since the early 1980s has been campaigning for the canonization of Russia’s last czar, Nicholas II, and his family. In 1997 he established a movement called the Social Committee “For the Moral Revival of the Fatherland.” In 2001 the committee’s Web site carried instructions on how to vandalize “immoral” billboards by splashing paint on them, and followers promptly destroyed 150 billboards in Moscow. Now the Social Committee is agitating against the ad campaign for the popular Red Devil Energy Drink, which Shargunov believes promotes Satanism.

A Social Committee activist, Olga Lochagina, filed a complaint accusing the exhibition organizers of “provoking national, racial, and religious hostility.”

A group of well-known nationalist intellectuals, including film director Nikita Mikhalkov, artist Ilya Glazunov, and writers Valentin Rasputin and Vasily Belov, weighed in with a petition calling the exhibition a “new stage of conscious Satanism.” They wrote that Russia’s enemies were bent on humiliating the powerless “Russian people, their objects of worship, and their historic values.”

Who, precisely, were these powerful enemies? The intellectuals didn’t identify them, but the fascist political party Pamyat (Memory) had no hesitation. The appeal posted on the party Web site called on Orthodox Christians to protect “our Lord Jesus Christ” from “Yid-degenerates,” using the most derogatory term for Jews.

After all this, no one was surprised when the vandals were acquitted of having committed any crime. It was a victory for the mob of believers and priests who had surrounded the courthouse throughout the trial, carrying icons and waving crosses.

It is the exhibition organizers who are likely to suffer. The investigator appointed by the prosecutor, Yuri Tsvetkov, looking for expert testimony that would confirm the guilt of the accused, consulted art historians at the State Center for Contemporary Art, but the experts didn’t find the artworks blasphemous. The relentless Lochagina, who had filed the original complaint, promptly filed another, against the art historians for providing what she called “false” expertise.

Tsvetkov looked elsewhere. He lined up another group of art historians and added a psychologist, a sociologist, and an ethnographer for scientific reinforcement. In November they presented their conclusions—nearly a hundred pages of expertise.

This time they provided the opinions Tsvetkov was looking for. All of them agreed that the exhibition had incited hatred. Natalia Markova, the sociologist, could hardly suppress her contempt for contemporary art, using such phrases in her expertise as the “sticky spiderweb of postmodernism.”

In December 2003, Sakharov Museum director Yuri Samodurov was charged with actions “leading to the provocation of hatred and enmity.” If he is found guilty, he could be sentenced to up to five years in prison. Church officials are not calling for that harsh a penalty. In March the Moscow Patriarchy’s External Relations Department issued a statement that surprised everyone. It asserted, in effect, that the Sakharov Museum exhibition organizers had committed an administrative rather than a criminal offense. The difference is that administrative offenses are punished, at most, by fines, not by prison terms.

Samodurov denies that he intended to offend anyone’s religious feelings and said that his freedom of expression had been violated. “Icons have one meaning when they are in a church,” he said in a press conference at the Sakharov Museum, “and a completely different meaning when they’re hanging in an exhibition hall.”

The Moscow journalist Aleksandr Averushkin titled his article on the Web site atheist.ru about the attack on the Sakharov Museum show “Orthodox Bulldozer,” referring to the infamous “bulldozer exhibition” of 1974, when KGB thugs, with the help of bulldozers, destroyed a show of “unofficial” art in a Moscow park.

Ironically, not long ago, during Soviet times, artists were imprisoned for depicting religious themes.

Anna Alchuk, an artist who participated in “Caution! Religion” and was later charged with conspiracy, told ARTnews from Moscow that she had met Samodurov, with whom she was accused of conspiring, for the first time at the exhibition opening. She said she had read all 14 volumes of evidence collected by the prosecutor, and that 11 volumes consisted entirely of letters from “working people” expressing their outrage at the show and demanding that the artists be punished. Almost none of the writers had seen the exhibition—most had signed form letters—but they accused the artists of such sins as torturing Christ. “If this case actually goes to court,” Alchuk commented, “we will see a real theater of the absurd.”

Konstantin Akinsha is a contributing editor of ARTnews.

(ArtNews (http://www.artnewsonline.com/pastarticle.cfm?art_id=1521))

Eiserner Adler
Saturday, November 6th, 2004, 01:28 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/nov04/272875.asp

Mac Seafraidh
Thursday, December 9th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Wilders questions PM about intimidation

9 December 2004

AMSTERDAM — Independent right-wing MP Geert Wilders has called on Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende to outline how he intends to deal with security officers hampering the founding of a new anti-immigration party.

Wilders resigned earlier this year from the Liberal VVD to prevent the party's leaders reigning in his heavy-handed criticism of Islam and his opposition to Turkey joining the European Union.

The MP has been threatened with death because of his criticisms of Islam and he has been advised to stay away from Parliament for a time to allow the climate to normalise. He has been given around-the-clock protection.

Wilders has announced plans to form a new

right-of-centre party which opinion polls suggest could do very well at the next general election.

But Wilders has said "sources within the security services" have warned the media that people who join his party would face the same security risks as he does.

People who have expressed an interest in joining his movement have also been approached and warned they would be putting their lives in danger, Wilders claims.

He said in parliament that the democratic process is being frustrated by the activities of unnamed security agents.

Wilders has also heavily criticised a suggestion by Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner that being assigned bodyguards had become a "status symbol".

Wilders has demanded a meeting with Balkenende, Donner and Interior Minister Johan Remkes to discuss his own security and the security of people connected to his new party.

He has also claimed that his usual chair in Parliament is dangerous as it puts him right under the public gallery. He has now been granted permission to sit three rows further forward in the chamber.

[Copyright Expatica News 2004]

Subject: Dutch news

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=19&story_id=14875&name=Wilders+questions+PM+about+intimida tion

Indeed. Liberal life must END!!! Hippies are no longer.

friedrich braun
Monday, December 13th, 2004, 02:56 AM
Italy deported imam 'illegally'
An Italian court has ruled that the deportation of a Senegalese imam who expressed his admiration for Osama Bin Laden was unlawful.
Mamour Fall was deported a year ago after predicting Italian soldiers would be targets weeks before an Iraq attack.

But a regional court in Lazio ruled the imam was wrongly expelled as such statements were merely personal views.

Italy's interior minister says the government still feel Mr Mamour poses a significant security threat.

He said he did not intend to change, "even a comma in my report... about the danger of the so-called imam of Carmagnola," Reuters news agency reports.

No return

Known by the name of the small northern Italian town where he lived before his deportation, the imam gave a series of controversial media interview predicting attacks on Italian troops stationed in Iraq.

The 39-year-old imam said Italy's troops would be targeted because they were aiding the US-led coalition, adding that further strikes would then follow on Italian soil.

A bomb in the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriya killed 19 Italian police and military personnel in November 2003.

Italian news agency Ansa quoted Mr Mamour, who lived in Italy for 11 years before he was deported, as saying that he had no plans to return to the country.


Story from BBC NEWS:

cosmocreator
Monday, December 13th, 2004, 06:39 AM
Why should this concern us? What's the racial tragedy?

friedrich braun
Monday, December 13th, 2004, 06:52 AM
It's an eloquent illustration of the legalistic problems western Democracies encounter when their governments attempt to deport undesirables. I believe that this story is emblematic of the racial tragedy towards which our feeble, humanistic, and democratic societies are pushing us. Moreover, it's an example of the obsession in the West with individualistic rights to the detriment of societal rights; such as, being protected against foreign, inassimilabe, and hostile elements.

Mac Seafraidh
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 07:02 AM
Racism still a problem among Catholics

Patrick Leeman

December 17 2004 at 05:00AM

Racial discrimination exists in parts of the Roman Catholic Church, a report by the Justice and Peace Department of the Southern African Catholic Bishops' Conference has revealed.

The findings of a report drawn up by the department and released on Thursday include an admission that church members justify racial prejudice in many different ways.

It says some church members still have not come to terms with living in a society that is characterised by cultural diversity. The report says the apartheid structural and organisational legacy remains a feature of some church structures.

Real social reconciliation and the development of non-racialism requires all communities to move beyond their social "comfort zones" and rise above often unconscious feelings of white superiority and black inferiority.

Attitudes of mistrust of black clergy, especially in leadership positions, persist
Attitudes of mistrust of black clergy, especially in leadership positions, persist and black clergy in predominantly white parishes face enormous pressures of proving their competence.

A Eurocentric culture is still considered the norm and becomes the basis of evaluation of credibility in some churches.

The chairman of the Justice and Peace Department of the conference, Bishop Mlungisi Dlungwane, said on Thursday there could be no doubt that the Catholic Church had always maintained a doctrinal opposition to any form of racial discrimination.

However, its organisation of parishes often meant that, in practice, the church reflected the segregation of society.


"We now face the challenge that racial divisions will be institutionalised in post-apartheid South Africa, not only in the local and national social and economic structures but also in the religious practice of South Africans," he said.

Dlungwane said South Africans had to work hard to rid society of the vestiges of racial division, especially in the cultural and economic spheres.

The report had been issued after two years of dialogue and consultation in six dioceses in SA.

This article was originally published on page 6 of The Mercury on December 17, 2004

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20041217023550156C548052

Taras Bulba
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Hmmmn they said the same thing about the Catholic church in England, which as this article sates: "in Britain is perceived as the most white of the major denominations"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,2763,382974,00.html

This is interesting......many pagans like to say Christianity(or Catholicism particularly) is not racist enough; while multi-culturalists claim we're too racist. Anti-Christians never seem to agree on whats wrong with Christianity, they only know that it is wrong. :P

Mac Seafraidh
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005, 09:20 PM
Shades of gray in black enrollment
Immigrants' rising numbers a concern to some activists



Jason B. Johnson, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, February 22, 2005


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When educators and politicians argue for giving more African Americans the chance to thrive at top universities, they see people like UC Berkeley fourth-year student Obi Amajoyi as a perfect example of what they have in mind.

He's a biology major who has emerged as a peer leader and athlete. He recruits high school students and is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi fraternity. But while Amajoyi was born in the United States, his parents are from Africa. He considers himself both African American and Nigerian.

"I definitely identify with all the struggles that we as African Americans have had to go through," said Amajoyi, 21. "But at the same time, I have this (other) history from my parents."

But Amajoyi is not a direct descendant of American slaves. And critics say his presence at the university -- and that of other black immigrants and their children -- shows institutions have failed to reach those who were the original targets of diversity outreach efforts.

Affirmative action programs were started in the wake of the 1960s civil rights movement to help African Americans overcome the legacy of slavery and decades of Jim Crow discrimination in employment, education and other fields.

In 1998, the passage of Proposition 209 ended the programs in California and led to -- what many activists say -- a steady decline in African American enrollment. Critics say that the rising number of black immigrants and their children, such as Amajoyi, at the universities has further decreased outreach efforts to African Americans and have raised concerns that American- born blacks will again be left behind.

But outgoing UC Regent Ward Connerly says the debate only shows how affirmative action has always failed to help those blacks most in need.

"Over the years, preference programs, affirmative action programs, have really not benefited low-income blacks, those who were the descendants of slaves," said Connerly. "They have benefited middle- and upper-income blacks.

"Recent immigrants are the beneficiaries of this terribly flawed program, " said Connerly. "The institutions don't care about that -- all they care about is chalking up the numbers."

Connerly says schools run the risk of sowing division between immigrants and African Americans. But he doubts UC officials will do anything to address the issue.

"To a large extent, this has flown beneath the radar," said Connerly. "We (regents) have not discussed it, and I don't think we will."

Nathan Hare, who fought to establish the first ethnic studies program in the United States at San Francisco State University in 1968 and is co-founder of the Black Think Tank in San Francisco, blames these numbers on old stereotypes.

"I have nothing against immigrants, but there are sociological realities we have to look at," said Hare. "They don't have the stereotypes of them being lazy and so on."

Hare says black immigrants often arrive with higher levels of education and are more willing to take low-level jobs, which can affect how quickly they move up in society.

"We'd have a much harder time doing that -- we're supposed to have been past that," said Hare. "We are the ex-slaves and inhabitants of the slums. They (immigrants) are coming in without that (baggage)."

Since 1990, according to immigration figures reported in the New York Times, more African immigrants have arrived in the United States voluntarily than the total who came as slaves before international slave trafficking was outlawed in 1807. More have been coming here annually -- about 50,000 legal immigrants -- than in any of the peak years of the Middle Passage across the Atlantic, and more have migrated here from Africa since 1990 than in nearly the entire preceding two centuries, according to the report.

In addition, a recent study shows the number of black immigrant students is high.

Researchers at Princeton University and the University of Pennsylvania who have been studying the achievement of minority students at 28 selective colleges and universities (including Berkeley, Columbia, Yale and Duke) last year found that 41 percent of the black students identified themselves as immigrants, children of immigrants or mixed race.

In December, 300 black students at Berkeley staged a "blackout" day to protest the school's lack of diversity, wearing all-black outfits and bandanas over their mouths. Last fall, there were 108 African American freshmen enrolled at Berkeley out of more than 3,600 freshman students.

Richard Black, associate vice chancellor of admissions and enrollment at Berkeley, says the school does not keep records on the immigrant vs. nonimmigrant makeup of its black student population.

Black says that under state law, students are judged under comprehensive review, which looks at an applicant's life experiences and not at race.

"We're looking at where the student is now and where they went to school, " said Black. "We're not looking at conditions of several generations ago."

Black says the school seeks to attract a diverse student body by having increased visits to urban schools and through outreach efforts by alumni and current students.

"Obviously, we have not had the success that we want," said Black.

On a recent day, Amajoyi and some other students gathered on UC Berkeley's campus to discuss the challenges they face at the elite institution.

"I'm not sure how deep the line between being from Africa or the Caribbean or being African American is," said Amajoyi, who was born in Texas and grew up in Southern California. "Because our numbers are so low, just being black on campus brings you together. The first thing is you're black."

Amajoyi's parents both came to the United States on student visas and attended Texas A&M University.

Branden Turner, 20, a third-year biology major from Los Angeles, recalled taking an African American studies class taught by a professor from the Caribbean. His teacher's background was the topic of discussion on the first day of class.

"His point was that even though he came to America, once you walk onto American soil, you deal with the black struggle," said Turner. "I'm perceived (by classmates) as not being as intelligent as the others in my class."

Rabiah Burks, 21, a fourth-year student majoring in history and African American studies, grew up in South Central Los Angeles. She says kids in her inner-city high school suffered from a lack of books and other supplies.

"We didn't have proper teachers. We didn't have proper books," said Burks. "My calculus class had no books. Our teacher worked off a board. Nobody invests in black children."

Harvard law Professor Lani Guinier has voiced concerns that many of Harvard's black undergraduate students are West Indian and African immigrants or their children.

Guinier believes the numbers are a sign of a much greater problem: the criteria used in admissions by top schools. She's writing a book that proposes expanding current merit-based criteria to examine other factors.

"For me, the key point is not whether you should be admitting immigrants or native-born people of color," Guinier said. "The key point is the schools should be reconsidering their reliance on a set of predictors that don't measure the potential outcome of the students." http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/02/22/MNGIJBF3LP1.DTL

Oskorei
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005, 10:00 PM
This is exactly why "affirmative action" is such a fraud. If they truly wanted to help those who were "oppressed" they should base it on socio-economical factors (class), instead of the colour of the skin. Then they would also target poor Whites, who have historically been maltreated too. But class divisions are not trendy enough for the new Left and the neo-Cons, only "racism" and "the Other".

Sometimes I suspect that it is not really about racism even. It is about creating a colored middle- and upperclass, to help controlling the colored masses in the multi-cultural hell. Ever wondered why Skull & Bones allows colored members all of a sudden, or why Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice are so visible... Or why Black actors make so many police- and secret agentmovies presently ("protecting the System"). I might be paranoid, but I might also be on to something.

Mac Seafraidh
Wednesday, February 23rd, 2005, 10:16 PM
Yes, Affirmative Action is a black corruption that is working unfortunately. The reason being is in Politics in the United States, Americans are not picked for their intelligence. It is just a line of people picked among the masses and that is why we have a loser like George Bush and the Jews have supreme power. Very similar to how Hitler describes the voting process in Mein Kampf. He is seriously right.

Mac Seafraidh
Tuesday, March 8th, 2005, 06:05 PM
HIV 'set to infect 90m Africans'

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40888000/jpg/_40888625_aidspatients_gi203b.jpg The UN says the worst is yet to come with the Aids epidemic





Nearly 90 million Africans could be infected by HIV in the next 20 years if more is not done to combat the epidemic, the UN has warned.


Some 25 million Africans have HIV, which causes Aids, at present.

The world body estimates the next two decades could see 89 million new cases of the disease in Africa - or up to 10% of the continent's population.

The UN recommends a committed campaign against HIV/Aids - and $200bn (£105bn) of investment - to stem its spread.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifhttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif We are being shown the future and unless we act now it is very stark http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Simon Wright, ActionAid

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/inline_dashed_line.gif

Tough challenges in Aids fight (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4318001.stm)



At best, taking more action against HIV/Aids could save 16 million people from dying of the disease and a further 43 million people from contracting it, the UN says.

"Millions of new infections can be prevented if Africa and the rest of the world decide to tackle Aids as an exceptional crisis that has the potential to devastate entire societies and economies," said UNAids chief Peter Piot.

Dramatic impact

The UN report concludes that if millions of Africans are still being infected by HIV by 2025, "it will not be because there was no choice".

"It will be because, collectively, there was insufficient political will to change behaviour at all levels... and halt the forces driving the Aids epidemic in Africa."

The study, entitled Aids in Africa, was compiled over two years using more than 150 experts.

According to the BBC's UN correspondent, Susannah Price, it demonstrates the dramatic impact government policies could have on the spread of HIV and Aids in Africa.

Epidemic threat

The report offers three different models of how the disease could affect the continent in 20 years, based on how much money and effort is invested in fighting it.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40888000/jpg/_40888627_aidsburial_bbc203x.jpg The disease has already affected millions of lives in Africa

The worst-case scenario, in which funding and policies stay as they are now, foresees a fourfold increase in the total number of people dying from Aids.

The report also looks at two more positive outcomes.

In the best-case scenario, international aid flows to Africa are doubled, investment in health systems is increased and agriculture and education and treatment is dramatically improved.

The report says that even in this case the total number of deaths would continue to rise.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifTALKING POINT
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/inline_dashed_line.gif

South African politician Mangosuthu Buthelezi lost two of his children to Aids. Click here to send a question. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4308865.stm)



According to our correspondent, the UN offers hope that the effective use of resources could eventually end the Aids epidemic in Africa.

At the same time, it warns that current levels of action could see the disease bring the entire continent to its knees.

Simon Wright, of ActionAid, said: "We are being shown the future and unless we act now it is very stark. "All countries must be more ambitious in fighting Aids, otherwise generations of Africans will be lost."



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4317019.stm

Mac Seafraidh
Saturday, March 19th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Law to ban neo-Nazi marches passes second vote

18 March 2005

BERLIN - A tougher law aimed at keeping neo-Nazis away from Holocaust sites and memorials to Third Reich victims passed its second parliamentary hurdle on Friday in a bid by Berlin to prevent rightists from hijacking ceremonies marking the end of World War II.

The bill passed the Bundesrat, the chamber of deputies representing Germany's federal states, with broad support from all the mainstream parties.

The vote came a week after the Bundestag, or national parliament, approved the bill hammered out in a compromise between the ruling Social Democrats-Greens and the Christian Democrat-Liberal opposition.

The bill tightens freedom of assembly laws to the extent of even permitting authorities to ban neo-Nazi rallies so as to prevent rightists from trying to steal the spotlight in the upcoming 8 May events marking the 60th anniversary of Nazi Germany's capitulation in World War II.

Marches which seek to glorify or play down Nazi era crimes can also be banned under the law.

The bill came after neo-Nazi groups applied to march past the soon-to-be-opened Holocaust memorial in central Berlin and through the historic Brandenburg Gate - a practice favoured by torch-carrying brownshirts during the era of Adolf Hitler.

German lawmakers were jolted into action after a protest called by the far-right National Democratic Party (NPD) in Dresden last month, marking the 60th anniversary of the city's firebombing in 1945, drew at least 5,000 rightists. It was the biggest neo-Nazi march in Germany since the 1950s.

DPA


Subject: German news





http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=26&story_id=18199&name=Law+to+ban+neo%2DNazi+marches+passe s+second+vote+

Siegfried
Wednesday, November 23rd, 2005, 04:33 PM
Forum targets ‘racist toddlers’
Racism among Irish toddlers will be tackled at a conference for childcare providers in Dublin later this month.

International research shows that children can form prejudices against other races even as babies and pre-schoolers. Workers in creches and childcare facilities will be shown how games and activities can prevent such discrimination forming.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1880165,00.html

Death and the Sun
Wednesday, November 23rd, 2005, 04:48 PM
Ahem ... ;) (http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=12255&highlight=toddlers)

Slå ring om Norge
Thursday, February 2nd, 2006, 10:35 AM
From todays "the Peninsula", Quatars leading daily newspaper
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=World_News&month=February2006&file=World_News2006020245144.xml

COPENHAGEN: Several newspapers in Europe entered the fray by publishing some or all of the caricatures, including the French daily France-Soir, Germany’s Die Welt, Italy’s Corriere della Serra and La Stampa, and Spain’s Catalan daily El Periodico, even as Denmark’s government scrambled yesterday to repair the damage to its relations with the Muslim world.

The 12 cartoons, first published by Danish daily Jyllands-Posten last September, have sparked a debate on where to draw the line on freedom of expression, as Muslim anger over the drawings continues to swell.

Some said they were printing the cartoons in support of Jyllands-Posten, while others said they were used to illustrate articles on the dispute.

Muslim outrage over the images depicting the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) has boiled over into a diplomatic crisis threatening Danish relations with the Muslim world. Islam considers any image of the Prophet (PBUH) blasphemous.

Danish flags have been burnt, ambassadors have been recalled, products have been boycotted and threats of violence have been issued against Scandinavians in Muslim countries in recent days.

Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has repeatedly refused to apologise for the paper’s publication of the cartoons, saying that would constitute meddling in press freedoms. He has however apologised if Muslims were offended.

After announcing a diplomatic offensive to resolve the row, Rasmussen yesterday said his government had also launched “a media offensive” in Muslim nations.

“We have to recognise that this is not only an issue between Denmark and a series of Arab governments. This is very much something that has spread to the streets in Arab countries,” he said. “It is therefore important to come in direct contact with the Arab people,” he said.

Yet despite Copenhagen’s efforts, Syria announced that it had recalled its ambassador to Denmark, while Chechen guerrilla leader Shamil Basayev threatened a response to the cartoons. And in Russia, the Orthodox Church and the Mufti Council, which represents 23 million Muslims, condemned European newspapers for reprinting the drawings.

The French foreign ministry distanced itself from a reproduction of the cartoons by the newspaper France-Soir. The ministry condemned “all that hurts individuals’ beliefs and religious convictions” but underlined that France “is a respectful and tolerant country that cherishes freedom of speech”.

Jyllands-Posten offices in Aarhus and the capital Copenhagen were again targeted by bomb threats yesterday and evacuated, media reports said. Nothing was found in both offices after a similar threat on Tuesday.

The world press freedom watchdog Reporters without Borders, based in Paris, defended the newspapers. “Freedom of the press also exists for viewpoints that shock the majority of the population,” RSF head Robert Menard told France Soir.

In Copenhagen, security police met Islamic leaders in a bid to calm reactions. Dalil Boubakeur, head of the French Muslim Council, denounced the publication of the drawings as a “provocation”. Burhan Kesici, a leader of Germany’s Turkish community, said they reduced Islam “to two or three terrorists”.

Thousands of Palestinians protested against Denmark this week, and Arab ministers called on it to punish Jyllands-Posten. Saudi Arabia has recalled its ambassador from Copenhagen and Libya has closed its embassy.

The Danish-Swedish dairy product maker Arla Foods, with annual Middle East sales of almost $500m, said it might have to cut 140 jobs due to the boycott. “We are losing around 10m kroner ($1.8m) per day at the moment,” a spokeswoman said. The world’s biggest maker of insulin, Denmark’s Novo Nordisk , said pharmacies and hospitals in Saudi Arabia had been avoiding its products since Saturday.

Chlodovech
Thursday, March 23rd, 2006, 11:44 PM
http://www.trouw.nl/multimedia/archive/00041/wilders_41504d.jpg



Geert Wilders wil komaf maken met een gedateerd lijntje in de grondwet. Al is z'n predikaat "extreem-rechts" ferm overdreven (rechts dat geen enorme kanttekeningen plaatst bij de sociale evoluties van de laatste veertig jaar valt bezwaarlijk rechts te noemen, meen ik), het is dan ook een cadeautje van de tegenstanders.


Grondwet wijzigen om islam


Wilders wil dominantie van joods-christelijke cultuur vastleggen

Artikel 1 van de Grondwet over gelijke behandeling en non-discriminatie moet verdwijnen. In plaats daarvan moet komen dat de joods- christelijke en humanistische traditie de dominante cultuur in Nederland is.
Dat schrijft Geert Wilders in zijn verkiezingsprogramma Klare Wijn van zijn Partij voor de Vrijheid (PVV) dat hij vandaag presenteert.

Het kamerlid wil af van het artikel, omdat dit volgens hem praktische oplossingen van het integratie- en immigratievraagstuk in de weg staat. Hij bepleit ook een stop op de bouw van moskeeën en de stichting van nieuwe islamitische scholen. Deze maatregelen zijn nu strijdig met artikel 1 van de Grondwet.

„Het gelijkheidsdenken maakt het onmogelijk om problemen te benoemen”, schrijft Wilders. „Gerechtvaardigde onderscheiden worden op de grote hoop van ’discriminatie’ gegooid. Ongelijke gevallen hoeven niet gelijk te worden behandeld.” In een interview met Trouw benadrukt Wilders dat de overheid discriminatie bij solliciteren en disco’s moet blijven bestrijden.

Pim Fortuyn wilde artikel 1 ook afschaffen, maar dan omdat hij vond dat non-discriminatie strijdig was met de vrijheid van meningsuiting.

Volgens Wilders moeten Nederlanders niet accepteren dat niet-westerse allochtonen in een wijk of stad de meerderheid vormen. Dit vormt een bedreiging voor de joods-christelijke cultuur. Het woningbouwbeleid en onderwijsbeleid moet volgens hem voorkomen dat moslims in een wijk gaan wonen waar al veel niet-westerse allochtonen wonen.

Wilders schrijft dat het liberalisme veel goeds heeft gebracht, maar ook dat het is versloft. Hij pleit er daarom voor om door het liberalisme verwaarloosde instituties als het gezin en de school weer in ere te herstellen. „Het gaat om vrijheid maar ook om deugdzaamheid die het voortbestaan van vrijheid moet garanderen.”

Bron (http://www.trouw.nl/hetnieuws/nederland/article254369.ece/Grondwet+wijzigen+om+islam)

Chlodovech
Friday, March 24th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Wilders clubbie: http://www.PartijVoorDeVrijheid.nl/



De GroepWilders /Partij voor de Vrijheid (PVV) wil zich vrij houden van partij- en machtspolitieke spelletjes die de kiezer uiteindelijk alleen maar voor de gek houden en op het verkeerde been zetten. Het beloven van gouden bergen aan de kiezer ten behoeve van een plaats op het pluche, om alle beloftes na de verkiezingen net zo gemakkelijk weer te vergeten, is niet onze stijl. Het gaat ons om een betere toekomst voor Nederland, en om de overwinning van de grote problemen die Nederland momenteel in hun greep houden. We moeten met meer veranderingsgezind beleid ervoor zorgen dat de Nederlandse burger weer trots op zijn land wordt. Ons gaat het dus enkel en alleen om de inhoud. Op de belangrijkste punten die wij noodzakelijk en urgent achten, zal de zittende politieke elite dan ook weinig compromisbereid bij ons vinden. Hieronder de tien belangrijkste punten:


1. De belastingen gaan fors omlaag. De overheid moet krimpen, de regelgeving en ambtenarij verminderen en de koopkracht en eigen verantwoordelijkheid van de burgers moet worden vergroot.
2. De joods-christelijke en humanistische traditie/cultuur worden als dominante cultuur in een nieuw artikel 1 van de Grondwet vastgelegd. Het huidige artikel 1 Grondwet komt te vervallen.
3. De lidstaten van de Europese Unie dienen zoveel mogelijk soevereiniteit te behouden. Aan de verdere uitbreiding van de EU – zeker met een land als Turkije - wordt een halt toegeroepen. De EU gaat zich vooral met de interne markt en handel bezighouden. Nederland beperkt zijn financiële bijdrage aan de EU verder met vele miljarden per jaar. De Europese Commissie wordt grotendeels en het Europees Parlement geheel afgeschaft. De nationale parlementen worden bevoegd, elk met een vetorecht op ieder (resterend) terrein.
4. Er komt een immigratiestop van vijf jaar voor niet-westerse allochtonen die zich hier blijvend willen vestigen. Het stemrecht voor gemeenteraadsverkiezingen voor mensen die de Nederlandse nationaliteit niet bezitten wordt meteen afgeschaft.
5. In verband met het aan onze cultuur vreemde en a-democratische karakter van de islam, komt er voor de periode van vijf jaar een moratorium op de stichting van nieuwe islamitische scholen en moskeeën. Er komt een preekverbod voor buitenlandse imams, alsmede een verbod op het preken in een andere dan de Nederlandse taal. Radicale moskeeën worden gesloten, radicale moslims uitgezet.
6. De discussie over het onderwijs dient zich toe te spitsen op een herstel van het curriculum. Het belang van het gezin voor de opvoeding en vorming van kinderen dient meer erkenning te krijgen.
7. Om de kloof tussen burger en politiek te verkleinen willen wij verdere vormen van democratisering: bindende referenda (te beginnen met twee referenda: een over Turkije wel/of niet in de EU en de ander over de wenselijkheid van de euro), gekozen burgemeesters, politiechefs en de minister-president en een directere band tussen kiezers en volksvertegenwoordiging.
8. Er komen hoge minimumstraffen en hogere maximumstraffen tegen misdrijven. Het bestuurlijke instrument van de administratieve detentie wordt in het kader van de terrorismebestrijding ingevoerd. Straatterrorisme wordt strenger bestraft, mede door de introductie van heropvoedingskampen en denaturalisatie en uitzetting. Het drugsbeleid wordt strenger.
9. Onderwijzers, politieagenten, verplegers en verzorgers, militairen en andere essentiële werkers in de collectieve sector krijgen het respect dat zij verdienen, en worden bij de door ons voorgestane decollectivisering ontzien en waar mogelijk beter beloond.
10. In de zorg zal de nadruk niet langer moeten liggen op ingewikkelde stelselherzieningen, maar op toegankelijkheid en menswaardigheid, zeker als het gaat om de leefsituatie van onze ouderen in verpleeg- en verzorgingstehuizen.

Leofric
Thursday, August 24th, 2006, 07:54 AM
Two Egyptian men are awaiting trial in Russia after several attempts to burrow their way under various European borders using nothing but shoehorns.


The men - both believed to be in their 20s - started in Belarus and dug a tunnel under the border with Poland.

But once in Poland, they lost their way, ending up where they started - in front of barbed wire.

Thinking they were now looking across the German border, the pair did the trick again.

But instead of getting to Germany, they ended up back in Belarus.
Minutes later, the two men were arrested by Belorussian border guards and later sentenced to 10 days in jail.

Read the whole story from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5279316.stm)



So, I was once studying Arabic and had an Egyptian teacher. When we learned how to give directions, she asked us to give directions from the classroom to our houses. I started giving directions using the cardinal directions (turn north at the next street, go five blocks west, etc.).

She told me that I couldn't do that. She said that people in Egypt don't know what north, south, east, and west are.

I asked whether there was a sun in Egypt.

She said that no one can tell directions from the sun and that the only way I can tell directions is because I live in the mountains.

I asked her whether people in Egypt knew where they were in relation to the river and whether they knew which way was upstream (south) and downstream (north).

She said that I just couldn't do it because people don't know north, south, east, and west.

At the time, I figured it was just because she was a Muslim woman that she didn't know basic directions.

After reading this article, I think she might have been dealing with a legitimate condition of being ethnically challenged! :D

Spirit of Fire
Thursday, August 24th, 2006, 08:03 AM
It is true that the people in the Arabic speaking countries don't know the cardinal directions related to the sun. Some of them use 'up' and 'down', 'left' and 'right' in relation to their surroundings but still no cardinal directions. It must be extremely difficult for their pilots to learn to navigate if they aren't used to the cardinal directions from childhood. They learn it in school but I assume they never use it in real life unless they are sailors or pilots.

Janus
Thursday, August 24th, 2006, 08:47 AM
I guess this lack of knowing about cardinal directions might explain that 9/11 was just an ethnically challenged accident ;)

Tabitha
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 10:04 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=409500&in_page_id=1770

Spjabork
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 10:31 AM
Dear Tabitha, this is one of the two (:D) Reader Comments:

"The council are going (besides broke) the wrong way about it with interpreters, children learn new languages very quickly if they are just immersed in the new environment with new language. They can then help their parents intergrate by teaching them some English."

- Amanda Nelson, Katoomba, Australia

I have nothing to add.

Tabitha
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 10:38 AM
To " intergrate" vb, transitive ~ what a fabulous new word, I think I'll let Oswui write up the dictionary definition. :D





Dear Tabitha, this is one of the two (:D) Reader Comments:

"The council are going (besides broke) the wrong way about it with interpreters, children learn new languages very quickly if they are just immersed in the new environment with new language. They can then help their parents intergrate by teaching them some English."

- Amanda Nelson, Katoomba, Australia

I have nothing to add.

Oswiu
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 02:15 PM
To " intergrate" vb, transitive ~ what a fabulous new word, I think I'll let Oswui write up the dictionary definition. :D

Ahem,



vb, trans. sociol. < intergration n.
The phenomenon observed when peoples of different cultures and/or race are forcibly made to inhabit a limited territory in excessive proximity. Refers to the mutual discomfort felt as incompatible cultural friction arises.
See to grate i.e. "get on one's tits".

Sonnenritter
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 04:33 PM
AW: English "a foreign language" in London's schools.

The englishmen are now confronted with the same problem the germans have. The own culture gets lost!

Gentilis
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006, 04:46 PM
The government should put a hefty tax on satellite dishes receiving foreign language channels and use the money to pay for the school interpreters.

But what do I know... I'd like to also see a stupidity tax.

Blood_Axis
Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 03:07 PM
London's own united nations

Evening Standard (London), Sep 12, 2006 by KATHARINE BARNEY

IN a city that has become the most ethnically diverse place on earth, one corner of London embodies the capital's inspiring mix of ethnic groups, languages, faiths and cultures.

A study has found the Haringey postcode of N15 - south Tottenham - is the most ethnically mixed in Britain.

The area is home to 105 ethnic groups and boasts residents from as far away as Hong Kong, Goa, Ethiopia and Malaysia.

While the English are the most dominant group, followed by the Irish, Scottish and Welsh, there are 716 Turkish residents, 578 Nigerians and 173 Germans living in the area.

The results emerged during a study of the geographical spread of immigration across the UK.
Richard Webber, a professor of spatial analysis at University College London, who spearheaded the survey, said: "What tends to happen in London is that some fairly large groups arrive and settle in one area, creating their own communities, such as Sikhs in Southall.

"When smaller groups arrive they tend to stay away from these areas but south Tottenham has not been colonised by any one group such as Asians, west Africans, Jews or Cypriots.
"As a result, the area is more accessible to small groups wanting to establish a home. Another factor is that Haringey council is one of the most welcoming to asylum seekers and able to provide more social housing to ethnic minorities."

A testament to his findings is Seven Sisters Road, where Turkish kebab shops sit alongside Greek dry cleaners, Bangladeshi supermarkets and an Irish housing centre.
Elias Nicholas, 64, a Cypriot who owns House of Nicholas bridal wear, said: "I came to London 53 years ago and have run this business here for the past 18 years. My eldest brother came to London first for a better way of life, then all six brothers and sisters followed him. South Tottenham is the most colourful place I've been in terms of different cultures.
"More recently, we've started getting a lot of Poles and they're very nice people. Everyone gets along very well, we're very tolerant and the newcomers very tolerant of us. It's a wonderful place to be."

(Blaxis note: :-O :nope :lol)

Norman Spence, 54, a cook from Jamaica who works in the Golden Sunset West Indian takeaway, said: "I came in 1992 for a holiday with my dad in Hackney and never left. Dad came over to earn money for a better way of life and I send money back to my mum who is still in Jamaica.

"There are people from all over the world here and we don't really get any hassle. Everyone gets on."

Local councillor Nilgun Canvear said: "We take pride in Haringey's diversity. We have different ethnic and religious groups living and working side by side.
"We have fantastic restaurants - you can get almost any ethnic dish you wish for - and our children bring a wealth of experiences and cultures to our schools."

THEY ALL HAIL FROM TOTTENHAM NOW

Origins/ Categories / Number in south Tottenham /
Afghanistan 2
Africa (Unspecified) 27
Afrikaans 23
Albania 29
Algeria 1
Angola 4
Armenian 7
Asian Caribbean 8
Balkans 32
Bangladesh 383
Bangladesh Hindu 26
Basque 6
Belgium (Flemish) 7
Belgium (Walloon) 1
Belize 1
Black Caribbean 138
Black Southern Africa 9
Brazil 8 Breton 3
Bulgaria 4
Castillian 34
Catalan 7
Channel Islands 6
China 64
Congo 3
Czech Republic 19
Denmark 19
Egypt 1
England 9,149
Eritrea 14
Estonia 6
Ethiopia 3
Finland 9
France 197
Germany 173
Ghana 430
Goa 1
Greece 121
Greek Cyprus 671
Greek Orthodox 3
Hindu Not Indian 40
Hispanic 31
Hong Kong 205
Hungary 16
India Hindi 389
India North 110
India Sikh 144
India South 2
Iran 14
Ireland 1,678
Italy 471
Japan 6
Jewish 582
Kenyan African 5
Kenyan Asian 4
Latin America 18
Latvia 3
Lebanon 2
Libya 1
Lithuania 5
Malay 3
Malaysian Chinese 6
Malta 2
Mauritius 9
Middle East 5
Morocco 1
Muslim 47
Muslim India 7
Muslim Other 203
Netherlands 11
Nigeria 578
Northern Ireland 59
Norway 6
Other African 12
Pakistan 497
Pakistani Kashmir 174
Philippines 14
Poland 185
Portugal 390
Romania 13
Romania Moldova 1
Romania Muntenia 1
Russia 69
Rwanda 1
Scotland 1,422
Sephardic Jewish 2
Serbia 3
Sierra Leone 23
Singapore 2
Slovakia 3
Slovenia 1
Somalia 246
South Asian (Unspecified) 34
South Korea 6
Spain 263
Sri Lanka 73
Sweden 15
Turkey 716
Turkish Cyprus 15
Uganda 10
Ukraine 11
Vietnam 107
Wales 740
West African Muslim 9
Zimbabwe 4

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:~( .... poor Londoners...what a horrendous experiment...! :-O :(

Thusnelda
Wednesday, October 18th, 2006, 05:43 PM
One day this community will burst like a soap-bubble. :|

Klegutati
Friday, October 20th, 2006, 01:20 AM
This article makes me very sad..:~(

Aeric
Saturday, October 21st, 2006, 01:13 AM
The dual standards applied in Britain these days are completely disgusting. If a white person who receives unemployment benefits is deemed 'unavailable for work' in any way, those benefits are abruptly stopped - yet ethnics are seldom subjected to the same expectations.

Some time ago, a Benefits Officer disallowed a claim made on behalf of an Indian woman who had arrived in the country just hours earlier. She had come to England to join her grandchildren and they had literally taken her straight from Heathrow Airport to the Social Security office. As she was rather elderly, could not speak or write English and without skills or work experience of any variety, the Officer determined that she was technically 'unavailable' for work because she was of no use to any employer. Within days, he was forced to make a grovelling apology to the Indian family and the woman received full benefits (plus extras for 'disabilities' and 'mobility' needs - the latter provides payments for transport or even a free motor vehicle). Not a bad haul for somebody who had only just arrived here with absolutely nothing to contribute to our society.

If it was not for the fact that young immigrants who can't speak our language have a hugely negative impact on our own children, I would say 'let them get on with it' - they are marginalising themselves through their refusal to cope with western requirements. I think that 'cutting your nose off to spite your face' is the saying that comes to mind.

When I was at one English highschool, a particularly loud-mouth black student demanded lessons which reflected 'West Indian Cultural Heritage'. He was very pleased with himself when these were added to the curriculum and anxious to tell 'Racists' (like myself) that he had won some kind of victory. His satisfaction evaporated when I heartily thanked him and pointed out that he surely would get the kind of low, menial job he deserved when he went looking for employment armed only with a diploma for beating out tunes on an oildrum.

Aeric

Kaiser
Saturday, October 21st, 2006, 01:33 AM
From article: "A huge increase in students from countries such as Poland is leaving some councils with massive bills to fund extra support such as interpreters."

Here's a thought:

1. Teach only in English.

2. If a student flunks, he is kicked out of school to free up a seat for someone willing to learn in the Native Tongue.

3. If a foreign family already in Engalnd can not pass an English test, DEPORT them.

4. Any new foreign arrivals to the doorsteps of England who arrive must take an English Language, English History, English Government, and English Cultural test. If they fail they are barred entry.

5. All these tests and education must be payed for out of the PRIVATE funds of the applicants.

6. An Oath of Alligiance to England must be sworn by any foreigner arriving. Furthermore, they must spend time in the armed combat services, or if abilities will not allow, work in the civil services before being able to compete for employment with the Native Born. If their service is unsatifactory, they are deported.

7. A complete economic, medical, physical, mental, criminal, and genetic background test must be administered prior to entry. All of this will be payed for by applicant. Not Mother England!

Thruthheim
Thursday, January 4th, 2007, 11:42 PM
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1798



Two local Liberal Party politicians in Malmö, Sweden’s third largest city, want to ban (http://www.thelocal.se/5965/) the use of languages other than Swedish in school classrooms. Allan Widman, one of the politicians, said “In Malmö we have a very unique situation: we are close to the point where a majority of pupils have a foreign background, which is to say that either they or their parents come from a country outside Sweden,” Some schools in Malmö have as few as 5 percent ethnic Swedes in their classrooms.

The proposal to ban foreign languages in schools first emerged in the run up to the election campaign. According to Widman, there was little debate at the time. But now that the proposal is on the table opinion is divided. “When I first came up with it, I thought it was a rather obvious rule to have. But over the last 24 hours I have been surprised by how controversial it seems,” he said.

In 2005, all-Arabic preschool classes were introduced in Malmö (http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/03/all-arabic-preschool-classes-in.html). According to the school authorities it is easier for children to learn Swedish once they have learned the language of their parents.

Within a decade or two Malmö is likely to become (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/node/938) the first Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority. The city is also the crime capital of Sweden. It has nine times as many reported robberies per capita as Copenhagen, Denmark. The victims are almost always indigenous Swedes. The wave of robberies the city of Malmö has witnessed during this past year is part of a “war against Swedes.” This is the explanation given by young robbers with immigrant background on why they are only robbing native Swedes. “When we are in the city and robbing, we are waging a war against the Swedes.”

Blutwölfin
Tuesday, February 6th, 2007, 10:00 PM
Children as young as three could be taught philosophy in an effort to improve their IQs and boost their self-confidence.

Nursery pupils will spend part of their days discussing ethics, existence and the roots of knowledge, if a Scottish council gets funding to extend a successful primary school programme.

But the young thinkers will not be asked to memorise the theories of Descartes or get to grips with post-modernism.

Teachers will use pictures and stories to stimulate debate, rather than imparting theories or the views of particular philosophers.

Clackmananshire Council wants to offer the lessons to nursery pupils after a study showed that its pioneering primary school philosophy classes had a lasting benefit for students.

Pupils who took the Thinking Through Philosophy course - introduced in the council's primary schools six years ago - improved their IQs by up to 6.5 points, and showed improved intellectual performance even after leaving for secondary school.

Pupils also showed greater self-esteem and emotional awareness, resulting in an improvement in classroom behaviour, according to a study by Dundee University.

Impressed by the results of the programme, the council has secured funding from the Scottish Executive to extend it into secondary schools, and plans to offer it in nurseries as well.

Paul Cleghorn, headteacher at Sunnyside Primary in Alloa, who spearheaded the primary school philosophy scheme, said that it was important to catch children as young as possible, when their brains and moral outlooks were still forming.

"If, beginning at nursery school, children are given the tools for better critical thinking, we are beginning to build for a more reasonable world," he said.



Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/05/nphilo105.xml)

Sigurd
Saturday, May 19th, 2007, 04:57 PM
South Africa passes law to end racism in sports
Cape Town, AP:

The legislation gives the sports minister powers to force sports bodies to increase participation by the black majority.

Parliament has approved a new law to speed up the racial transformation of top-level sport amid concern it is has failed to shake off the legacy of apartheid.

The legislation gives the sports minister powers to force sports bodies to increase participation by the black majority and withdraw funding from federations which fail to comply.

"Very little has happened over the past 13 years," South African Minister of Sports Makhinese Stofile said in reference to the start of multiracial rule in 1994.

"Our country must not fold its arms and hope that something will come by accident. For change to happen there must be an element of coercion," he told the National Assembly.

Soccer has traditionally been regarded as a game for black Africans, while some sports --like cricket -- have seen some efforts at racial inclusion. The national cricket team, for example, included seven non-whites in the squad at the recent World Cup.

But successful South African competitors in sports like cycling, swimming and tennis are predominantly white. The government says the pace of change is far too slow and singled out rugby, in particular, for criticism.

Under pressure, national rugby coach Jake White on the weekend included 14 non-whites in the initial squad selection for the September World Cup.

During the debate ahead of the vote, an opposition lawmaker voiced criticism of the law, saying it would open the way for heavy government meddling in sport.

It 'will be used to impose the ANC's political agenda of transformation on South African sport,' James Masango of the opposition Democratic Alliance told lawmakers.

Source (http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/May172007/sports200705172164.asp?section=updatenew s)

The Lawspeaker
Saturday, October 27th, 2007, 01:55 PM
Wilders wil Nederlands 'Guantanamo'

PVV-leider Geert Wilders vindt dat er in Nederland een soort Guantanamo Bay moet worden geopend. Daarin zouden naar Isra&#235;lisch model op last van de AIVD mensen moeten worden geplaatst die een gevaar voor de veiligheid zijn.

De behandeling van de gevangenen op Guantanamo is volgens Wilders prima. De VVD'er Van Baalen vindt de behandeling conform de Conventie van G&#233;n&#232;ve.

Een Kamercommissie bezocht deze week de basis op Cuba, waar terreurverdachten zonder vorm van proces vastzitten. Het voorstel van de VVD'er Van Baalen om Nederland gevangenen te laten overnemen krijgt geen steun in de Tweede Kamer.

bron: www. NOS.nl (http://www.nos.nl/nos/artikelen/2007/10/art000001C81825BA294A37.html)

IlluSionSxxx
Sunday, October 28th, 2007, 12:56 AM
De eerste stap naar Europese concentratiekampen voor politieke gevangenen is blijkbaar gezet. :(

Waarom was Hitler ook alweer zo vreselijk? Juist, ja....

The Lawspeaker
Sunday, October 28th, 2007, 11:18 AM
Ik vind dit ook waanzin. Jezus nooit gedacht dat ik het zou zeggen maar misschien is het maar eens tijd voor verstandig links en rechts om zich te verenigen en deze nazi uit te schakelen (sorry... ik laat jouw politieke ideeen even buiten beschouwing: er zijn nazi's en nazi's ).
Er moet een manier zijn waarop we samen zijn bootje uit het water kunnen schieten. Maar hoe ?

Because of the disgraceful proposal that Dutch MP Geert Wilders (PVV) made, a proposal that goes against all our noble traditions, I would like to make a attempt to translate this article.




Wilders wants a Dutch 'Guantanamo'

PVV-leader Geert Wilders thinks that the Netherlands should open a Dutch version of Guantanamo Bay. Modelled after Israeli camps, this camp should house people that are deemed a security hazard by the AIVD (Dutch secret security agency).

Wilders considers the treatment of the prisoners on Guantanamo Bay to be excellent. VVD MP Van Baalen thinks that the treatment of prisoners is conform the Geneva Conventions.

A parliament committee visited the US base on Cuba, where prisoners are being detained without any trial, earlier this week.
Van Baalen's proposal to have some of the prisoners brought to the Netherlands does not receive any support from Parliament.

IlluSionSxxx
Sunday, October 28th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Jezus nooit gedacht dat ik het zou zeggen maar misschien is het maar eens tijd voor verstandig links en rechts om zich te verenigen en deze nazi uit te schakelen (sorry... ik laat jouw politieke ideeen even buiten beschouwing: er zijn nazi's en nazi's ).

Er zijn "nazis" (oftewel nationaal-socialisten) en "zionazis" (oftewel radicale zionisten). De eerste soort is positief, maar ons systeem stelt hen voor als het pure kwade. De tweede soort is negative, maar ons systeem stelt hen voor als positief. Wilders behoort tot de tweede soort.


Er moet een manier zijn waarop we samen zijn bootje uit het water kunnen schieten. Maar hoe ?

Het is belangrijk om aan te tonen dat joden en zionisten gevaarlijker zijn dan moslims. Joden en zionisten zijn een oorzaak van de problemen die we vandaag hebben. Moslims zijn het fenomeen. Eens je dat aan de bevolking duidelijk kunt maken, verliest iemand als Wilders alle aanhang.

The Lawspeaker
Sunday, October 28th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Er zijn "nazis" (oftewel nationaal-socialisten) en "zionazis" (oftewel radicale zionisten). De eerste soort is positief, maar ons systeem stelt hen voor als het pure kwade. De tweede soort is negative, maar ons systeem stelt hen voor als positief. Wilders behoort tot de tweede soort.
Als linkse jongen zou ik samenwerking met rechts nooit hebben overwogen maar het probleem dat we daarmee creeeren is dat het (en dat is geen fairy-tale, al dacht ik tot voor kort dat het wel een sprookje was) door Joden geleide financierskapitaal de macht blijft houden.
Ik denk dat probleem wat mee speelt zeker de Nederlandse herinnering aan de oorlog is. Het is mij vroeger bijvoorbeeld wel eens duidelijk gemaakt dat we 6 familieleden hebben verloren (militairen en verzetsstrijders).
Een treffend en ook wat ondergeschoven kindje in de Nederlandse geschiedschrijving is het soms felle verzet vanuit rechts tegen de Duitsers. Blijkbaar vonden ook fascisten dat Hitler te ver ging. Hij had zich puur op herovering (diplomatiek of militair) van de verloren gebieden moeten richten en op de uitschakeling van het financierskapitaal (niet door ze uit te roeien maar door ze op de boot naar Amerika te zetten)




Het is belangrijk om aan te tonen dat joden en zionisten gevaarlijker zijn dan moslims. Joden en zionisten zijn een oorzaak van de problemen die we vandaag hebben. Moslims zijn het fenomeen. Eens je dat aan de bevolking duidelijk kunt maken, verliest iemand als Wilders alle aanhang.

Daar ben ik het zeker mee eens. Het heeft natuurlijk zijn geschiedenis waarom het Joodse financierskapitaal zo sterk is (dankzij de middeleeuwse beroepsverboden hebben die lui generaties ervaring in bankierszaken.) Blijkbaar hebben zij dan weer niet het fatsoen om bepaalde zaken niet te financieren. Iets wat veel christelijke organisaties dan weer wel hadden. Ik kan er nu geen bewijs voor vinden maar laat ik het vermoeden uiten (schiet me er niet op af) dat vooral het Joodse financierskapitaal elke oorlog sinds de Middeleeuwen hebben gefinancierd. Alleen is het verdraaid lastig om dat soort vermoedens te laten bevestigen aangezien generaties van informatie natuurlijk niet op het internet staan maar keurig ergens in een luchtdicht archief ligt. In mijn idee is de Islam zeker geen lieverdje maar zijn ze een symptoom van wat er nu gaande is.
Nogmaals, als linkse jongen mag ik me eigenlijk niet eens op deze wijze uitlaten en schiet me er niet op af.
Alleen hoe je dat soort moeilijke zaken aan de Wilders-aanhang verteld.... geen idee.

IlluSionSxxx
Sunday, October 28th, 2007, 12:23 PM
Als linkse jongen zou ik samenwerking met rechts nooit hebben overwogen maar het probleem dat we daarmee creeeren is dat het (en dat is geen fairy-tale, al dacht ik tot voor kort dat het wel een sprookje was) door Joden geleide financierskapitaal de macht blijft houden.

De intellectuele nationaal-socialisten die ik ken (mijzelf inbegrepen) komen steevast uit het linkse kamp. Ik ken er zelfs &#233;&#233;ntje die als tiener vooral optrok met punkers in kraakpanden. Nu is hij echter een zeer gemotiveerd nationaal-socialist en totdat hij door de politie is opgepakt als "terrorist" hield hij zich bezig met het uitgeven van een nationaal-socialistisch magazine, het houden van nationaal-socialistisch ge&#239;nspireerde lezingen en het verkopen van politiek incorrecte literatuur. Het kan dus verkeren ;)


Ik denk dat probleem wat mee speelt zeker de Nederlandse herinnering aan de oorlog is. Het is mij vroeger bijvoorbeeld wel eens duidelijk gemaakt dat we 6 familieleden hebben verloren (militairen en verzetsstrijders).
Een treffend en ook wat ondergeschoven kindje in de Nederlandse geschiedschrijving is het soms felle verzet vanuit rechts tegen de Duitsers. Blijkbaar vonden ook fascisten dat Hitler te ver ging. Hij had zich puur op herovering (diplomatiek of militair) van de verloren gebieden moeten richten en op de uitschakeling van het financierskapitaal (niet door ze uit te roeien maar door ze op de boot naar Amerika te zetten)

Wat dat uitroeiien betreft, daar ga ik mij verder niet over uitlaten. Het internet is niet de geschikte plaats voor zo'n onderwerp in tijden wanneer je ge&#228;srresteerd en een land uitgezet kunt worden door hierover een dissidente mening aan te nemen. Ik kan je echter verzekeren dat de geschiedschrijving zeer gekleurd en verdraaid is mbt Hitler's intenties omtrend te joden.

Wat betreft de bezetting van landen als Nederland en Belgi&#235;, die moet je vooral bekijken vanuit militair-tactisch standpunt. Beide landen vormden een bufferzone voor Engelse bommenwerpers en leverden extra mankracht voor de Duitse fabrieken. Had Hitler de landen niet binnengevallen, dan had Engeland dat waarschijnlijk zelf gedaan in de naam van de wereldvrede (:rolleyes:). Tijdens de eerste wereldoorlog deed Engeland trouwens hetzelfde in het neutrale Griekenland.

En verder.... Nederland zat met het probleem dat het geen degelijke nationaal-socialistische partij had. Mussert was een oportunistische jassendraaier en Rost-Van Tonningen had te weinig aanhang in Nederland om zijn stempel te kunnen drukken. De NSB was simpelweg een zootje ongeregeld. Het was dan ook met reden dat Hitler Seys-Inquart naar Nederland stuurde om daar orde op zaken te stellen ;)


Daar ben ik het zeker mee eens. Het heeft natuurlijk zijn geschiedenis waarom het Joodse financierskapitaal zo sterk is (dankzij de middeleeuwse beroepsverboden hebben die lui generaties in bankierszaken.) Blijkbaar hebben zij dan weer niet het fatsoen om bepaalde zaken niet te financieren.

Het is precies dat gebrek aan fatsoen dat de joden de macht heeft gegeven die ze vandaag hebben. De Joodse cultuur is van nature een parasitaire cultuur en de geschiedenis heeft die Joden die zich het minst fatsoenlijk gedroegen hiervoor beloond. Vroeger was dit vrij algemeen geweten, en dat is dan ook precies waarom het antisemitisme ooit zo sterk was in Europa.


Ik kan er nu geen bewijs voor vinden maar laat ik het vermoeden uiten (schiet me er niet op af) dat vooral het Joodse financierskapitaal elke oorlog sinds de Middeleeuwen hebben gefinancierd.

Sinds de ondergang van de Tempeliersridders en het verdwijnen in de obscuriteit van families als de Di Medici, zijn inderdaad zowat alle oorlogen (langs beide zijden !) door Joodse bankiers gesteund. Daarenboven zijn heel wat oorlogen van de 19de eeuw en de belangrijkste oorlogen van de 20ste eeuw ook nog eens door Joden beraamd.


Nogmaals, als linkse jongen mag ik me eigenlijk niet eens op deze wijze uitlaten en schiet me er niet op af.

Tja... Ik kan je verzekeren dat het voor mij eveneens een schok was te beseffen dat mijn idee&#235;n meer gemeen hadden met de Duitse nationaal-socialisten dan met anarchisten. Het zal wel niet lang meer duren eer je het "linkse" gedachtengoed afzweert en bij de zogenaamde "rechterzijde" komt neuzen. Als je wat interessante literatuur zoekt, laat mij iets weten. Ik weet wel enkele aanraders voor jou ;)


Alleen hoe je dat soort moeilijke zaken aan de Wilders-aanhang verteld.... geen idee.

De Wilders-aanhang hebben niet de mentale capaciteiten om zo'n dingen te beseffen, vrees ik. Dat zijn vooral simpele mensen die afgaan op platte demagogie die inspeelt op hun angsten en hun problemen en die profiteren van het feit dat de gevestigde partijen hun feeling met de massa totaal zijn kwijtgespeeld. Hetzelfde geldt trouwens voor het merendeel van de Vlaams Belang-stemmers in Vlaanderen.

Het zal je misschien verbazen, maar ik heb bij laatste verkiezingen niet eens meer op Vlaams Belang gestemd maar op Lijst Dedecker en de protestpartij NEE.... puur uit protest tegen zowel de gevestigde orde als het Vlaams Belang.

Þórir
Friday, November 16th, 2007, 02:46 PM
The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed HR 1955 titled the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007. This bill is one of the most blatant attacks against the Constitution yet and actually defines thought crimes as homegrown terrorism. If passed into law, it will also establish a commission and a Center of Excellence to study and defeat so called thought criminals. Unlike previous anti-terror legislation, this bill specifically targets the civilian population of the United States and uses vague language to define homegrown terrorism. Amazingly, 404 of our elected representatives from both the Democrat and Republican parties voted in favor of this bill. There is little doubt that this bill is specifically targeting the growing patriot community that is demanding the restoration of the Constitution.

First let’s take a look at the definitions of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as defined in Section 899A of the bill.

The definition of violent radicalization uses vague language to define this term of promoting any belief system that the government considers to be an extremist agenda. Since the bill doesn’t specifically define what an extremist belief system is, it is entirely up to the interpretation of the government. Considering how much the government has done to destroy the Constitution they could even define Ron Paul supporters as promoting an extremist belief system. Literally, the government according to this definition can define whatever they want as an extremist belief system. Essentially they have defined violent radicalization as thought crime. The definition as defined in the bill is shown below.

`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

The definition of homegrown terrorism uses equally vague language to further define thought crime. The bill includes the planned use of force or violence as homegrown terrorism which could be interpreted as thinking about using force or violence. Not only that but the definition is so vaguely defined, that petty crimes could even fall into the category of homegrown terrorism. The definition as defined in the bill is shown below.

`(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Section 899B of the bill goes over the findings of Congress as it pertains to homegrown terrorism. Particularly alarming is that the bill mentions the Internet as a main source for terrorist propaganda. The bill even mentions streams in obvious reference to many of the patriot and pro-constitution Internet radio networks that have been formed. It also mentions that homegrown terrorists span all ages and races indicating that the Congress is stating that everyone is a potential terrorist. Even worse is that Congress states in their findings that they should look at draconian police states like Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom as models to defeat homegrown terrorists. Literally, these findings of Congress fall right in line with the growing patriot community.

The biggest joke of all is that this section also says that any measure to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism should not violate the constitutional rights of citizens. However, the definition of violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism as they are defined in section 899A are themselves unconstitutional. The Constitution does not allow the government to arrest people for thought crimes, so any promises not to violate the constitutional rights of citizens are already broken by their own definitions.

`SEC. 899B. FINDINGS.

`The Congress finds the following:

`(1) The development and implementation of methods and processes that can be utilized to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States is critical to combating domestic terrorism.

`(2) The promotion of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence exists in the United States and poses a threat to homeland security.

`(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

`(4) While the United States must continue its vigilant efforts to combat international terrorism, it must also strengthen efforts to combat the threat posed by homegrown terrorists based and operating within the United States.

`(5) Understanding the motivational factors that lead to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence is a vital step toward eradicating these threats in the United States.

`(6) The potential rise of self radicalized, unaffiliated terrorists domestically cannot be easily prevented through traditional Federal intelligence or law enforcement efforts, and requires the incorporation of State and local solutions.

`(7) Individuals prone to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence span all races, ethnicities, and religious beliefs, and individuals should not be targeted based solely on race, ethnicity, or religion.

`(8) Any measure taken to prevent violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism in the United States should not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights and civil liberties of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.

`(9) Certain governments, including the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia have significant experience with homegrown terrorism and the United States can benefit from lessons learned by those nations.

Section 899C calls for a commission on the prevention of violent radicalization and ideologically based violence. The commission will consist of ten members appointed by various individuals that hold different positions in government. Essentially, this is a commission that will examine and report on how they are going to deal with violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. So basically, the commission is being formed specifically on how to deal with thought criminals in the United States. The bill requires that the commission submit their final report 18 months following the commission’s first meeting as well as submit interim reports every 6 months leading up to the final report. Below is the bill’s defined purpose of the commission. Amazingly they even define one of the purposes of the commission to determine the causes of lone wolf violent radicalization.

(b) Purpose- The purposes of the Commission are the following:

`(1) Examine and report upon the facts and causes of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States, including United States connections to non-United States persons and networks, violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in prison, individual or `lone wolf' violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence, and other faces of the phenomena of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence that the Commission considers important.

`(2) Build upon and bring together the work of other entities and avoid unnecessary duplication, by reviewing the findings, conclusions, and recommendations of--

`(A) the Center of Excellence established or designated under section 899D, and other academic work, as appropriate;

`(B) Federal, State, local, or tribal studies of, reviews of, and experiences with violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence; and

`(C) foreign government studies of, reviews of, and experiences with violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence.

Section 899D of the bill establishes a Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States. Essentially, this will be a Department of Homeland Security affiliated institution that will study and determine how to defeat thought criminals.

Section 899E of the bill discusses how the government is going to defeat violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism through international cooperation. As stated in the findings section earlier in the legislation, they will unquestionably seek the advice of countries with draconian police states like the United Kingdom to determine how to deal with this growing threat of thought crime.

Possibly the most ridiculous section of the bill is Section 899F which states how they plan on protecting civil rights and civil liberties while preventing ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism. Here is what the section says.

`SEC. 899F. PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES WHILE PREVENTING IDEOLOGICALLY-BASED VIOLENCE AND HOMEGROWN TERRORISM.

`(a) In General- The Department of Homeland Security's efforts to prevent ideologically-based violence and homegrown terrorism as described herein shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights, and civil liberties of United States citizens and lawful permanent residents.

`(b) Commitment to Racial Neutrality- The Secretary shall ensure that the activities and operations of the entities created by this subtitle are in compliance with the Department of Homeland Security's commitment to racial neutrality.

`(c) Auditing Mechanism- The Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Officer of the Department of Homeland Security will develop and implement an auditing mechanism to ensure that compliance with this subtitle does not result in a disproportionate impact, without a rational basis, on any particular race, ethnicity, or religion and include the results of its audit in its annual report to Congress required under section 705.'.

(b) Clerical Amendment- The table of contents in section 1(b) of such Act is amended by inserting at the end of the items relating to title VIII the following:

It states in the first subsection that in general the efforts to defeat thought crime shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights and civil liberties of the United States citizens and lawful permanent residents. How does this protect constitutional rights if they use vague language such as in general that prefaces the statement? This means that the Department of Homeland Security does not have to abide by the Constitution in their attempts to prevent so called homegrown terrorism.

This bill is completely insane. It literally allows the government to define any and all crimes including thought crime as violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. Obviously, this legislation is unconstitutional on a number of levels and it is clear that all 404 representatives who voted in favor of this bill are traitors and should be removed from office immediately. The treason spans both political parties and it shows us all that there is no difference between them. The bill will go on to the Senate and will likely be passed and signed into the law by George W. Bush. Considering that draconian legislation like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act have already been passed, there seems little question that this one will get passed as well. This is more proof that our country has been completely sold out by a group of traitors at all levels of government.Source (http://www.thealthing.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogu egovernment.com%2Fnews.php%3Fid%3D4682)

GovTrack: H.R. 1955: Text of Legislation (http://www.thealthing.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.govt rack.us%2Fcongress%2Fbilltext.xpd%3Fbill %3Dh110-1955)

Thought Crime Bill: A Declaration Of War (http://www.thealthing.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trut hnews.us%2F%3Fp%3D555)

Neocon Attack on Ron Paul: Greasing the Skids for Implementation of H.R. 1955? (http://www.thealthing.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trut hnews.us%2F%3Fp%3D849)

Gorm the Old
Saturday, November 17th, 2007, 08:35 PM
It appears that "1984" came 23 years later than expected. It has been obvious for some time that Big Brother is watching us.* The perverse reasoning of Newspeak is evident in "political correctness" and even more so in this bill. Supporting the Constitution against its violation by the government which is sworn to support it could be, for example, construed as a thought crime. *Get rid of your answering machine. It can be used as a surveillance device.

I am an NRA member. It should be simplicity itself to label US as "home-grown terrorists". Worse, I am a founding charter member of the Second Amendment Task Force. :O We support the right of the people to keep and bear arms. :eek Obviously, the only reason we could have for wanting to keep and bear arms would be to oppose or overthrow the government. :doh .
I wonder, do they mean to try suspects under this legislation in a court of law ......or just send them to Guantanamo ?

Ulf
Saturday, November 17th, 2007, 08:57 PM
An interesting post I found on slashdot (http://slashdot.org/). The author is not to eloquent, but the message is pretty clear.



Have fun in your little made-up universe where the government comes to round you up and you manage to fight it off.

In the real world, fascism is when the corporations and governments work as a single entity, and you can wander around with your fucking gun all you want. In fact, you'll have to wander around, because the government/corporations took your house and your car, and no one will hire you.

At which point you'll be arrested, not as some big anti-government hero by jackboot thugs, but for stealing bread to live on, by a perfectly normal cop who's just doing his job, a job that absolutely no one except you disagrees with, so when you shoot and kill him you're getting the electric chair and no one thinks you're a hero at all.

There are different types of totalitarian governments, and assuming a fascist one operates like a communist one is faulty. Fascist governments don't put troops in the streets...they work with corporations to make sure 'the wrong sort of people' do not have any economic power, and do not have anywhere to peddle their ideas.

Modern fascist states don't even bother to kill those people, and pretending they're going to show up in some stormtrooper outfit and start a gun battle with you is insane. They'll show up with a court order to evict you from your home because you failed to pay your mortgage, because pressure came from the top at your company to let you go. Or they'll just sue you and ruin your finances.

America is not a bunch of tiny castles where, as long as you can hold off the invading armies, you will be fine. The idea that that is how the world works is astonishingly naive. Almost all the population of America lives in housing they do not fully own, they get food from places they do not control like the supermarket, they require operating in society for money to obtain said food and shelter, a society where economics are controlled by some very large players that can crush them like bugs.

And a fascist state isn't going to 'assume control', you asshat. There's not going to some insane coup, there's a going to be a slow change, which has, in fact, already happened, or have you not looked at the telecom immunity stuff? That's classic fascism. The government breaks the law, the government gets private companies to break the law, the government gives said companies huge amounts of cash, the government attempts to make such behavior legal retroactively. We've got government officials and AT&T officers leaping back and forth between each other in an incestuous loop. Your government spying on you, sponsored by AT&T. It's not 'totalitarian' yet, as evidenced by the fact Democrats managed to stop the immunity, but it is fascism, at least the start of it. (And the same thing's happened with Blackwater.)

Oh, and before you start ranting about gun control some more, be forewarned I'm against it. I'm just not stupid enough to think that the US government being slowly corrupted by business is something that can be fought off with gunpowder. Guns are useful to deter crime and to deter invasion. They aren't useful against a corrupt government in any meaningful way.


Source (http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=346351&cid=21193115)

SmokyGod
Wednesday, November 21st, 2007, 02:43 AM
my blood pressure just spiked :mad:

The Lawspeaker
Thursday, November 29th, 2007, 05:05 AM
Cabinet warns Wilders on anti-Koran film
Wednesday 28 November 2007



The cabinet is concerned about a ‘provocative’ film about the Koran by anti-immigration party PVV leader Geert Wilders which he expects to be shown on tv at the end of January.

The justice, foreign and home affairs ministers, who are worried about a backlash from Islamic countries, have warned Wilders about the risks of screening such a film.

Justice minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin stressed that while Wilders is free to express his views about the Koran, he also has a responsibility towards society in general. ‘Think about the what the repercussions could be,’ he said.

If the film is hard-hitting, it could evoke hard-hitting reactions against himself and others,’ says the minister. Those who want a free debate must show respect for all religions and for things that are sacrosanct for others, he said.
Wilders says it is not the aim of his film to insult people but if they are insulted, that is ‘a pity but not my problem’. He says he wants Muslims to realise that the Koran is a ‘terrible and fascist’ book which inspires people to commit ‘terrible’ deeds.

He repeated his belief that the Koran, like Hitler’s Mein Kampf, should be banned in the Netherlands.
Abdelmajid Khairoun, chairman of the Dutch umbrella organisation of Muslim organisations, said Wilders’ film would damage not only Muslims but the Netherlands in general. In addition it could lead to a boycott of Dutch products similar to the anti-Danish reaction which followed the controversy about cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammed two years ago.




Source: Dutchnews.nl (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http&#37;3A%2F%2Fwww.dutc hnews.nl%2Fnews%2Farchives%2F2007%2F11%2 Fcabinet_warns_wilders_on_antik.php)

Gefjon
Monday, December 24th, 2007, 10:22 AM
Geert Wilders, leader of the anti-immigration PVV party, accuses the cabinet of ‘pure political intimidation’ in an interview in Monday’s Volkskrant.

He claims the cabinet is putting ‘unacceptable’ pressure on him to abandon his plans to make a film about the Koran. Wilders says that he will nevertheless go ahead with the film which he wants to screen at the end of January.

Source: DutchNews.nl (http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2007/12/wilders_accuses_cabinet_of_pol.php)

The Lawspeaker
Saturday, December 29th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Geert Wilders... I just can't take him seriously at all. He is like an elephant in a porcelain shop. He is just out to wreck people (whether Muslim, parliament, cabinet, or H.M the Queen- or just anybody in which he finds a one week-target in order to obtain votes or media attention) for nothing but personal gain.


In all honesty: I hold people that take his words seriously for nothing but fools. I have never seen a man that was more dangerous to the nation, our reputation abroad, national preservation or our national sanity. This man should learn to shut up and speak when appropriate (just because he abuses free speech and is endangering our nation and people and triggering terrorism in our own streets) and buy himself a plane ticket to I-don't-give-a-rat's-ass-where-on-this-globe... as long as it is outside of the European Union and the territory of the Kingdom of the Netherlands.

Loyalist
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 02:58 AM
Both were English, my g-grandfather from North Yorkshire (although his mother was Scottish) and g-grandmother from Shropshire (mother was apparently of Welsh origin).

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Veritas Æquitas
Monday, June 30th, 2008, 07:09 AM
IMO Man looks like a Keltic-Nordid to me

Loyalist
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008, 06:45 PM
Thanks VA, I was thinking the same, perhaps with some Bruenn influence. Not to be a bother, but anyone else...?

Bärin
Thursday, July 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Foreign children who move to Sweden should have a right to be taught maths and English in their native language, the opposition Green Party has said.

Green spokeswoman Maria Wetterstrand told a press conference at the Almedalen political week in Visby, Gotland, that research shows that “people learn better if they get support in their native language.”

“There has been enough wishy-washiness in schools. It’s time to listen to the results of research,” she said, citing the fact that 40 percent of pupils who had come to Sweden from abroad left school without qualifications.

More:
http://www.thelocal.se/12968/20080710/

Old Winter
Friday, July 11th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Few points:

1: Hypocrisy, first they claim that immigrants are Swedish the moment they are legal, now all of the sudden they are not, they claim that they have no ties and roots of their racial homeland, then why this ?

2: I call this: creating apartheid, even in my land a big part of the third generation immigrants (moroccans, turks, negro's) can not even speak or write normal Dutch when they are in high school, and that for children who are born here.

3: The ''green'' party should deal with important issues like animalrights and nature protection, but it seems the ''green'' party is not green at all, i looked at the youtube promo video's of every green party on the world, nothing about animalrights or nature protection, i also went to their webpages, nothing green about it, only about immigrants immigrants immigrants.

Don't they know that mass immigration is bad for the ecosystem ? bunch of fake greens, green on the outside red on the inside, marxist red that is.

Flash Voyager
Friday, July 11th, 2008, 09:47 PM
They should take into account that should an desired education is available right back at home.

Genfluss
Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008, 12:40 AM
Basically Keltic Nordid & Brünn

Dagna
Saturday, February 14th, 2009, 10:24 PM
Double Dutch: Listening to a foreign language is crucial to learning it... even if you don't understand a word

Those struggling with a foreign language should listen to native speakers... even if they have no idea what they are saying.

Ground-breaking research from Victoria University in New Zealand found that listening to the sound patterns of a new language set up structures in the brain required to learn a different tongue.

'However crazy it might sound, just listening to the language, even though you don't understand it, is critical,' study author Dr Paul Sulzberger said.

'Our ability to learn new words is directly related to how often we have been exposed to the particular combinations of the sounds which make up the words.

'If you want to learn Spanish, for example, frequently listening to a Spanish language radio station on the internet will dramatically boost your ability to pick up the language and learn new words.'

Dr Sulzberger was interested in what makes it so difficult for humans to learn foreign words when we are constantly learning new ones in our native language.

He found the answer in the way the brain develops neural structures when hearing new combinations of sounds.

'Neural tissue required to learn and understand a new language will develop automatically from simple exposure to the language - which is how babies learn their first language,' he said.

He was prompted to start his research after he saw countless students drop out of his Russian-language classes

'When we are trying to learn new foreign words we are faced with sounds for which we may have absolutely no neural representation,' he said.

'A student trying to learn a foreign language may have few pre-existing neural structures to build on in order to remember the words.'

Dr Sulzberger concluded simply exposure to the new language would help students progress.

'One hour a day of studying French text in a classroom is not enough - but an extra hour listening to it on the iPod would make a huge difference,' he said.

'To learn a language you have to grow the appropriate brain tissue, and you do this by lots of listening - songs and movies are great.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1130253/Double-Dutch-Listening-foreign-language-crucial-learning--dont-understand-word.html

Dunkeld
Sunday, February 15th, 2009, 07:07 AM
Ja, das glaube ich sofort! :)

Verðandi
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009, 12:30 PM
The lead BNP candidate in Wales, Ennys Hughes, says the UK needs to leave Europe


More... (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeedprox y.google.com%2F%7Er%2FNationalPolicyInst itute%2F%7E3%2FIqNnY9UmkCs%2F)

Aptrgangr
Wednesday, May 13th, 2009, 09:22 PM
Migrant warns Africans off ‘misery’ Europe

May 10, 2009

Matthew Campbell

AN African in Paris is appealing to his countrymen to stay at home rather than risk their lives attempting to break into “fortress Europe”, where, he says, they will be miserable.
Omar Ba, from Senegal, in west Africa, says Europe is not the promised land imagined by Africans; instead it is almost impossible to find a job or somewhere to live and people are unfriendly to foreigners.
“I came in search of happiness,” said Ba, 28, in a cafe in Paris last week. “I found solitude and depression.”
He is luckier than most because his book I Came, I Saw, I Believe No More has turned the child of impoverished smoked-fish sellers into a minor celebrity and has put a human face on the plight of African “boat people”.

(...)

“People avoided me,” writes Ba, who managed to enrol as a sociology student at the University of Saint-Etienne. “I made beautiful girls flee; to think that when I arrived I fantasised about having an affair with some ravishing blonde who would give me mixed-race children.”

(...)

Migrant warns Africans off ‘misery’ Europe - Times Online (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.time sonline.co.uk%2Ftol%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Feur ope%2Farticle6256679.ece)

Barreldriver
Monday, February 8th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Here's my maternal grandparents:

My papaw was blond hair, blue eyes, medium build. My grandmother was reddish-blond hair blue eyes, sky blue color, medium build, used to be quite athletic, she was a former ice skater and such.
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k438/ragnarok1227/Miller-Keen.jpg

Here's my great grandparents, parents of the man in the pic above:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k438/ragnarok1227/Miller-Cleveland.jpg

Barreldriver
Monday, February 8th, 2010, 03:00 PM
For my maternal grandmother and grandfather, my grandfather is half Swiss-German and half Southron (various British Isle's lineages that in part settled solely in the South and in part came from New England and moved South, and one distant Portuguese 13 generations back from myself), his main line is from Switzerland, my grandmother is half German and half Scots-Irish.

My great grandfather was full blooded Swiss-German, my great grandmother a Southron as mentioned earlier derived of a mix of British Isle's lineages and a distant Portuguese 13 generations back from myself, her main line is the same of former U.S. President Grover Cleveland, the lineage comes from Ipswich, Suffolk, England.

Roderic
Wednesday, September 14th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Faced with 1930 Census records, New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez acknowledged that her grandparents illegally came to the USA from Mexico.

Martinez, a Republican who took office in January, has been outspoken in a bid to repeal what she has called "the dangerous practice" of granting driver's licenses to undocumented migrants to "protect the people of New Mexico." It's not immediately clear whether her grandparents ever had driver's licenses.

She put the issue on the agenda for a special session that opened Tuesday. Two other states -- Utah and Washington -- do not require proof of citizenship to get a license.

Martinez's admission came Wednesday in an interview in Spanish with KLUZ-TV, the Albuquerque Univision affiliate, the Associated Press says.

"I know they arrived without documents, especially my father's father," she said.

AP says the admission "appeared to be the first time she has answered the question definitively." Spokesman Scott Darnell said today that the governor had just recently learned of her grandparents' immigration status through media reports that cited Census records showing her grandfather entered the country illegally.

"The governor has no reason to question that 1930 Census record about her grandfather and has always known, and publicly spoken of the fact for years, that her family roots trace back to Mexico," Darnell said. "It's unfortunate that some are choosing to personally attack the governor, but these tactics prove that supporters of giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants have run out of legitimate defenses for a bad policy."

Shortly after taking office, Martinez revoked sanctuary status for illegal immigrants who commit crimes.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/09/NM-governor-My-grandparents-came-to-US-illegally-546487/1?csp=34news

Frostbite
Wednesday, September 14th, 2011, 11:54 PM
Well at least she realizes it wasn't a good thing. :|

Æmeric
Saturday, September 17th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Practically all of them (Mexicans)are illegal aliens or anchor babies. It is very rare for any of them to come to the US legally.