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friedrich braun
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 07:40 PM
...on the futility of working within the system.

I hope that this only serves to radicalize Vlaams Blok's supporters who will now undoubtedly go underground. In a blatant move at self-preservation the corrupt Belgian Estabishment (one has only to recall the Dutroux affair to see the utter moral bankruptcy of the Belgian political class) has decided to outlaw the most popular political movement in Flanders...if you can't beat, ban them...LOL...what a sordid farce.



Facing ban, far-right Belgian party to re-emerge as kinder, more mainstream force

By Robert Wielaard
ASSOCIATED PRESS

1:02 a.m. November 8, 2004

BRUSSELS, Belgium Facing a court ruling that could declare it a racist group, the far-right Flemish Bloc political party plans to disband and re-emerge under a new name, shedding the fascist tenor that got the most popular political party in Dutch-speaking Belgium into legal trouble.

An appeals court is to rule Tuesday on a suit brought by two non-governmental rights organizations. A lower court condemned the Flemish Bloc for using racist tactics to target immigrants and ordered three associations that raised money for the party to pay a $58,000 fine.

If the April ruling is upheld, the Flemish Bloc will lose all government subsidies it would normally be entitled to as a Belgian political party.

The new party "will clearly express itself as the successor to the Vlaams Blok," the party's Web site declared Sunday. A new party name may be picked next weekend.

Faced with that "disaster scenario," the party will dismantle itself and form a new alliance that will continue the policies that have proven very popular.

"We have been dragged from one court to another, but I am convinced we were vindicated by the voters," party chairman Frank Vanhecke told VRT television. "Even if we are judicially called criminals, we will be back. The courts should take account of what citizens voted for."

The party's share of the popular vote in elections has gone from under 10 percent in 1999 to 24.1 percent last June. A poll released in September pegged the party as the most popular in Flanders for the first time.

Like the Flemish Bloc, the new party will continue to be nationalist, pursuing close ties with the Netherlands and independence for Flanders, Belgium's Dutch-speaking northern half that is home to just over 60 percent of the country's 10 million population.

But the Bloc has drafted a new manifesto that is noticeably kinder to immigrants and asylum seekers a group the party has long blamed for crime and unemployment in Belgium.

Its 1977 manifesto called for North African and other non-European immigrants to be sent home, and it supported South Africa's apartheid system.

The successor party will argue it can stay if it embraces European values such as the separation of church and state. It will also embrace the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Also, it will no longer espouse ideas popular in fascist European governments in the 20th century such as opposition to trade unions, free enterprise or a well-developed social security system.

"We are at war. We said from the beginning that integration (of immigrants) should happen as part of assimilation. If we do not do that, we'll have conflict," Vanhecke said.

Support for the Bloc in the September poll rose to 24.3 percent, squeaking past the Christian Democrats who won regional elections in Flanders in June who had 24.2 percent.

A similar poll in October extended the far-right party's lead even further, with 26.9 percent support.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...inderparty.html

Loki
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 07:48 PM
And they call this "democracy"? It is not. The current political elite is not a democratic force, but a system that suppresses the people against their will. When will this system be smashed into pieces? Who knows... nothing is insurmountable. At least the vote shows that the Flemish people are against the corrupt anti-European system. That should give us some hope.

DreamWalker
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 08:24 PM
...on the futility of working within the system.

I hope that this only serves to radicalize Vlaams Blok's supporters who will now undoubtedly go underground. In a blatant move at self-preservation the corrupt Belgian Estabishment (one has only to recall the Dutroux affair to see the utter moral bankruptcy of the Belgian political class) has decided to outlaw the most popular political movement in Flanders...if you can't beat, ban them...LOL...what a sordid farce.



Exactly the way the system responded in early 1930's Germany, but there is always a way, when they banned brown shirts, we marched without shirts :icon_ques

Hmmm, my first post, so Heilsa all :beer-smil

Dr. Brandt
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 11:11 PM
But the Bloc has drafted a new manifesto that is noticeably kinder to immigrants and asylum seekers a group the party has long blamed for crime and unemployment in Belgium.

The successor party will argue it can stay if it embraces European values such as the separation of church and state. It will also embrace the United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Also, it will no longer espouse ideas popular in fascist European governments in the 20th century such as opposition to trade unions, free enterprise or a well-developed social security system.


Well, then the System has achieved what it wanted. It is no longer the original party with the original ideas that made it popular.

DreamWalker
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 11:43 PM
Well, then the System has achieved what it wanted. It is no longer the original party with the original ideas that made it popular.

Their ideas have not changed, just the paper description of them.

I expect friend and foe alike know their philosophy.

Constantinus
Tuesday, November 9th, 2004, 11:47 AM
I'm not happy with their coursechanges, but I don't think all that much will change. They're already too moderate, but they're good recruiters.

friedrich braun
Tuesday, November 9th, 2004, 01:29 PM
It's good to see you, CONSTANTINUS. :)

friedrich braun
Tuesday, November 9th, 2004, 07:05 PM
BBC News

Court rules Vlaams Blok is racist
Belgium's highest court has ruled that the Flemish far-right Vlaams Blok party is racist.
The ruling means the Blok will lose access to state funding and access to television which will, in effect, shut down the party.

The Blok was appealing against a court ruling which stated that it was guilty of violating anti-racism legislation.

Recent opinion polls suggest the Vlaams Blok is the most popular party in the Dutch-speaking region of Flanders.

It garnered almost a quarter of votes in regional and European elections in June.

The party campaigns on an anti-immigration platform.

It also wants independence for Flanders, home to five million Flemish speakers.


Today, our party has been killed, not by the electorate but by the judges
Frank Vanhecke


Party chairman Frank Vanhecke said he was shocked at the ruling.

"Exactly 15 years after the Berlin Wall came down and the people of East Germany and eastern Europe regained their freedom, it was confirmed today that in the Belgian state, democracy and freedom of speech are under threat," he said.


'Xenophobic'

Vlaams Blok's leaders were prepared for the ruling, and are making plans to launch a new party with a new name, Vlaams Belang, or Flemish Interest, Belgian media say.

The High Court's ruling is final and cannot be appealed.

"In order to preserve our party members from prosecution, we are now forced to disband," said Mr Vanhecke immediately after the judgment.

"Today, our party has been killed, not by the electorate but by the judges."

The party had been toning down some of its statements, but there is every chance the new party will pick up where the old one left off, says the BBC's Chris Morris in Brussels.

At the weekend, its members voted to modernise the party's statutes and tone down its views on immigration, saying non-European immigrants wishing to remain in Belgium should adopt Belgian rules and values.

The Blok had once advocated that all non-European immigrants should be returned to their home country.

'Bury Belgium'

The Vlaams Blok makes the political establishment in Brussels very uncomfortable as they regard it as extremist and xenophobic, our correspondent adds.

For years, other parties have combined to shut it out of national and regional governments, but this tactic has not really worked, he says.

"We are the democratic voice of an ever growing number of Flemings who, in an entirely non-violent way, want to put an end to Belgium," Mr Vanhecke said on Tuesday.

"Our electoral strength is causing panic amongst the Belgian establishment. We will establish a new party. This one Belgium will not be able to bury; it will bury Belgium."

Constantinus
Tuesday, November 9th, 2004, 08:15 PM
Hiya Freddy. Decided to peek in here. How are you?