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Väring
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 07:52 AM
16 year old charged with knife murder


A 16 year old boy who was arrested on Sunday for the murder of a 14 year old on Saturday night in Sollentuna has been charged and remanded in custody.

Monday's papers reported that a conflict between immigrants in the area and local neo-Nazis was behind the killing, but police sought to play down the speculation.

The 14 year old, James Waite, was among 30 youngsters aged between 14 and 18 who had congregated in a waterside barbecue area near Norrviken in Sollentuna. According to Aftonbladet, "some of the people at the party had xenophobic views and wore typical skinhead clothes like bomber jackets, bleached jeans, boots and braces. Several of the boys also had shaved heads."

At around 9.30pm a group of youths "with immigrant backgrounds" arrived at the area, known as 'the bay of love'. Patrick Andersson, 14, told Aftonbladet that they immediately singled James - who was also dressed in the skinhead style - out from the crowd.

"The immigrants went straight up to James Waite and asked him 'Are you racist or Nazi?' There were many who were dressed like him but they went straight for him."

Andersson described how the gang then punched and kicked James Waite to the ground, screaming, "you're going to die". In the melee, the 16 year old allegedly pulled out a knife and stabbed James in the chest. He died in an ambulance on the way to Karolinska hospital.

Monday's Dagens Nyheter explained that police arrested the 16 year old after gathering information from several witnesses.

The 16 year old's lawyer, Hans Ahlstedt, told Expressen that he is a "well-adjusted guy".

"He gets on well in school and plays football in his free time," he said. "He is no different to my own children."

While Ahlstedt painted a rosy picture of his client, Stockholm police attempted to dampen early speculation that the murder was race-related.

"Throughout Sunday we have been able to get a better picture of what happened," said Mats Nylén, a Stockholm police spokesman, to DN.

"We have interviewed a lot of witnesses. The investigators emphasise that at the moment there is nothing to indicate that this could have been a racist murder."

But his words were undermined by the news that a number of racist groups have already described James Waite as "a martyr". And according to Stockholm's Metro, between 250 and 400 right-wing extremists took part in a demonstration in Sollentuna on Sunday afternoon.

The demonstration was apparently calm, but afterwards a small group attacked a 23 year old man "of foreign appearance" outside a restaurant in the centre of Norrviken.

In Wednesday's Aftonbladet, James Waite's family distanced themselves from the "right-wing extremists trying to exploit our child's tragic death for their own ends".

They explained that their son had "no racist views at all" and that the clothing was just a phase.

"He was a normal teenager, in the middle of the time when you're looking for an identity. He often changed his clothing style."

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=392&date=20040913

Oskorei
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 10:35 AM
The demonstration was apparently calm, but afterwards a small group attacked a 23 year old man "of foreign appearance" outside a restaurant in the centre of Norrviken.

Immediately after this news was published by major media, it was commented in Nationalist media. From what they said, the immigrant had provoced the Nationalists and thrown things at them, and he had got a beating in return (and this was not after the demonstration, but during it).

Since the major media stopped reporting anything about this poor fellow after this, I suspect that the Nationalist version was the correct one. The wonderful fellow had disturbed a memorial demonstration for a dead child, and he had gotten what he deserved. So the media realized that they had nothing to gain by writing more about it. This is how they work, normally they had been very eager to report very much on an immigrant being beaten by Nationalists. Especially after a Swedish child was murdered; in an attempt to demonstrate something like "nationalists are evil too". Our media happens to hate their own kind, and this is the key to understanding the news in Sweden.

Glenlivet
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 11:01 AM
It's a sad story. Can you explain the name James Waite? It is really not Swedish in origin.

Oskorei
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 02:15 PM
It's a sad story. Can you explain the name James Waite? It is really not Swedish in origin.

His father was English it seems. But from his features he looks like any Swede.

NormanBlood
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 03:49 PM
And now I can hear the multiculti types saying "this is why we should all be on human family!"...no this is why everyone should live where they BELONG. It really is true when they say learn from history and history shows that when various peoples of different races live together well..it turns out quite disasterous doesn't it;) Convict the bastard and send him back to his country.

Oskorei
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 05:13 PM
And now I can hear the multiculti types saying "this is why we should all be on human family!"...no this is why everyone should live where they BELONG. It really is true when they say learn from history and history shows that when various peoples of different races live together well..it turns out quite disasterous doesn't it;) Convict the bastard and send him back to his country.

Well put. This is why multiracialism and mass-immigration is also a crime against the immigrants. They will never be anything else than an ethnic underclass in Nordic countries, and they will feel that they are stupid, ugly and failures, compared to the native Nords. It is my honest belief that they would be happier in their countries of origin, and that these countries would benefit from that as well.

Glenlivet
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 05:29 PM
With all do respect, he look atypical for Sweden. He's obviously white, but not fully an ethnic Swede. It shows in his phenotype. In fact, he's morphology and pigmentation is much more typical in Britain than Sweden.

http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=183577

The 16 year old suspect has a Swedish mother and a South American father. There are no pictues of his face but I doubt his much less "white".

This thing is also about kids in trouble in the suburbs, regardless of segregation. One must stay honest about the issue. Kids should not be able to walk around with knifes in their pockets, period.

I don't think this is a just a problem about races. I would say it's much deeper than that.



His father was English it seems. But from his features he looks like any Swede.

NormanBlood
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 07:09 PM
Of course I agree with you completely Oskorei. Also, if there are constantly people (usually more educated than those w ho stay) leaving these countries "in trouble" for Western countries then these nations can never expect stability. What, shall all the arabs, indians, chinese etc. abandon the East and immigrate to the West? This would bring ruin to both Western "host" nations and the abandoned Eastern nations...which is, as you know, what we are coming to today unfortunately.


The 16 year old suspect has a Swedish mother and a South American father. There are no pictues of his face but I doubt his much less "white".

I would highly doubt that. Usually when the term "south american" is used it does imply those of mixed blood not a person of German or whatever descent living there. The victim is undoubtedly Western European in look while the article stated the accused looked foreign.

Oskorei
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 07:18 PM
With all do respect, he look atypical for Sweden. He's obviously white, but not fully an ethnic Swede. It shows in his phenotype. In fact, he's morphology and pigmentation is much more typical in Britain than Sweden.

http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=183577

The 16 year old suspect has a Swedish mother and a South American father. There are no pictues of his face but I doubt his much less "white".

This thing is also about kids in trouble in the suburbs, regardless of segregation. One must stay honest about the issue. Kids should not be able to walk around with knifes in their pockets, period.

I don't think this is a just a problem about races. I would say it's much deeper than that.

I wouldnt say that hes atypical, there are plenty of Swedes who look like him, I wouldnt react if I saw him on a bus. But I agree that the type is also common in Britain.

I agree that this is not just a race-thing, it is also about the destruction of norms and of the family.

The suspected killer is less white (even though some Chilenos Ive seen do look rather White, but not in this case).

Pictures of the suspect:
http://www.nd.se/nyheter/notis.asp?notisID=2958

SouthernBoy
Thursday, September 16th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Is he wearing a Texas flag shirt? Balder, I am sure I am not quite the typical kid in my area, but I have an easy access to guns, through long proven responsibility, and would consider a knife a common accessory here.

Laurelin
Friday, September 17th, 2004, 05:13 PM
One thing to ask is, where are the parents of any of these kids? They appear to have abnegated their supervisory responsibilities. When I was in my early teens (the late 1980's), my parents wouldn't let me go anywhere after dark, unless it was with people known to them AND they knew that at least one responsible adult would be present to prevent things from getting out of hand.

Having said that, this tragic incident does serve as yet further evidence of the failure of multiculturalism. Racially unsuitable immigrants will keep to their own communitites, and adopt an in-group - out-group mindset that makes them antagonistic to the majority (generally regardless of how liberally-minded the majority is). One can see numerous instances of this in Toronto (near where I live). Had these immigrants stayed in their own countries, they would not be placed in the position of "minorities", and these antagonisms would not have a chance to develop. But of course, as was pointed out above, the liberal media will always cover-up evidence that multiculturalism is a failed policy.

Northern Paladin
Friday, September 17th, 2004, 06:44 PM
With all do respect, he look atypical for Sweden. He's obviously white, but not fully an ethnic Swede. It shows in his phenotype. In fact, he's morphology and pigmentation is much more typical in Britain than Sweden.

http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=183577

The 16 year old suspect has a Swedish mother and a South American father. There are no pictues of his face but I doubt his much less "white".

This thing is also about kids in trouble in the suburbs, regardless of segregation. One must stay honest about the issue. Kids should not be able to walk around with knifes in their pockets, period.

I don't think this is a just a problem about races. I would say it's much deeper than that.

I agree he doesn't look like the typical Swede or Englishman(Anglo-Saxon). He looks to be less Nordic than what is typical of Swedes. The irony is his attacker could have been just as "white". But that isn't the main issue here. Regardless his death was a tragedy and signal of the cancer of Multiculturalism.

You know there is really no way to ensure kids don't carry around knifes. The only way to prevent violence is to have strict laws that discourage it.

One question comes to mind. Where the hell were his "comrades" when he was getting "singled out"? If they just stood their and watched they are just as responsible for his death. He was probably singled out because of his smaller size.

If anything I hope his death and those who have and will be victims of immigrant crime make Swedes realize the follies immigration.

Northern Paladin
Friday, September 17th, 2004, 06:56 PM
Well put. This is why multiracialism and mass-immigration is also a crime against the immigrants. They will never be anything else than an ethnic underclass in Nordic countries, and they will feel that they are stupid, ugly and failures, compared to the native Nords. It is my honest belief that they would be happier in their countries of origin, and that these countries would benefit from that as well.


"In Wednesday's Aftonbladet, James Waite's family distanced themselves from the "right-wing extremists trying to exploit our child's tragic death for their own ends".

They explained that their son had "no racist views at all" and that the clothing was just a phase.

"He was a normal teenager, in the middle of the time when you're looking for an identity. He often changed his clothing style."

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=392&date=20040913

This is what shocks me most! :eek: The Irony is if the Evil "Right Wingers" were in power this would have never happened. They could have used their sons death as a way to highlight the problems of unchecked immigration. Instead they have succumbed to Political Correctness.

Things need to change! This kids death wasn't an isolated incident and unless drastic changes are made. Swedes will continue to be victims of such violence.

Northern Paladin
Friday, September 17th, 2004, 07:01 PM
VÄRING

Would you say this has gotten good media coverage? How does this compare with when a immigrant is attacked by a Swede? I get the impression that the media is much quicker to cover stories that feature the poor little immigrant getting attacked by the big bad Racist Swede than the other way around.

So would it be fair to say that the Swedish media is biased against their own kind. They always seem to potray Swedes who attack immigrants as evil racist scum. While when immigrants attack Swedes, it's perfectly ok because they are just defending themselves.

Väring
Tuesday, September 28th, 2004, 05:27 PM
Would you say this has gotten good media coverage?

Media coverage in Sweden is generally not good, so my answer must be no.
Swedish media is usually liberal socialist and anti nationalist in it's approach. Perhaps communist, if you will. My impression is that most people involved in media are communists, feminists, or various non nordish or non european people. What bothers me with this particular case is that the news papers seem more outraged about the manifestations performed by nationalists than by the murder itself.

Ederico
Tuesday, September 28th, 2004, 05:38 PM
Sad news. :(

It seems that the Media all over Europe is either Liberal Leftist or leaning more towards that way when it comes to Racial Issues. I think Malta is less affected but the Media People are working on braindirtying people to become Pro-Immigration, however it will be hard (I hope).

SouthernBoy
Tuesday, September 28th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Does Malta really have a problem with immigrating non-Whites?

Ederico
Wednesday, September 29th, 2004, 06:18 PM
We are full of them already. The Detention Centres are full and now they moved some of them to some tents in a football ground denying the locality's youth of their sports activities during the season.

In 2002 the Illegal Immigration Rate was half of our Natality Rate, this year was one of the worse. Our Interior Minister had stated in an interview to an Italian paper that a boatload of 30 Immigrants in Malta is like a vessel with 3000 Immigrants in Sicily, and I bet he is right. At a certain period this summer we had an inflow of 30 Illegals a day.

They just built a centre for those Invaders that looks better than the home of some Maltese Families, and the Party in power is called "Nationalists", more like National Treason Party.

infoterror
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 05:00 AM
This is a tragedy because it was allowed to happen. Our "pity" and "morality" do not permit us to see the truth of the issue, namely that racial groups will always be at war with one another - they must be, and must be accustomed to this, if they have preserved themselves identifiably up until now.

Why did no one resist the attack?

And why are they shipping third-worlders to Sweden of all places?

Loki
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 10:00 AM
And why are they shipping third-worlders to Sweden of all places?
Because their pre-planned purpose is to destroy and corrupt the Nordic heartland from the inside. It is a carefully planned and executed Judish political maneuvre.

Pan-FinnoUgric
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 09:15 PM
We don't have so hard problem than Sweden, because during by Cold War, our President was very strict towards immigration, but now lesbian Halonen want to destroy my country :icon_arro

R.I.P. James Waite