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Loki
Friday, August 27th, 2004, 11:08 PM
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article856476.ece

Immigrant crime can lead to 'mafias'

A Norwegian researcher warns that ethnic gangs can give Norway the kind of immigrant-related organized crime that accompanied waves of migration to the USA. Dr. Inger-Lise Lien has just finished a report commissioned by the Department of Local Government and concludes that the ethnic groups themselves are worried.
http://www.aftenposten.no/multimedia/archive/00217/_M04sandaker2508_jp_217131h.jpg Sandaker, February 2004. One man shot to death, one wounded, in broad daylight in gang-related violence.

PHOTO: HANS O. TORGERSEN


"Ethnic-based gang crime can give Norway the same problems that the USA has had with the Mafia. Society, and most of all the immigrants themselves, will be hit hard," said Lien, researcher at NIBR (Norwegian Institute for Urban and Regional Research).

"If we look at youth under the age of 19 charged with crimes in Oslo, immigrants are unfortunately largely overrepresented. In certain Oslo districts - Furuset, Stovner and Gamle Oslo - gang criminality has a grip. Criminal gangs becoming solid organizations is a sign in international research of an incipient mafia structure being built," Lien said.

Lien said that while the reporting of this type of ethnically based crime increases Norwegian skepticism towards immigrants, gang crimes tend to be inwardly focused, with violence taking place within the ethnic community.

Lien said that there is already great concern about the problem within the respective immigrant communities and that authorities should hurry to create constructive cooperation.

"My suggestions for action are to aim crime fighting work more directly at the target group, that is, those who have already started on the path of a criminal career. Furthermore, it is important that recruits meet reaction at once and not after they have carried out a series of crimes," Lien said.

"Last, but absolutely not least, it is important that immigrants' sense of belonging and trust in Norwegian society is strengthened. If the parallel and separate societal development of Norwegian and foreign culture continues I believe this will only strengthen the worrying development," Lien said.

Oskorei
Saturday, August 28th, 2004, 10:01 AM
Good article. With all the evidence of the harm mass-immigration is doing now, and will lead to in the future, one has to suspect a sinister agenda behind the "elite" that is forcing it upon us.

BTW, in Sweden we already have ethnic mafias, or pseudo-mafias. The main difference between Sweden and Norway though, is that when some Swedish immigrants made a robbery in Norway and shot a policeman to death, they were presented as "Swedes" in all mainstream swedish media. In Norway they were presented, correctly, as Albanians with Swedish citizenship (belonging to one of our ethnic pseudo-mafias, the "Albanian-gang"). Probably this is what the Social-democrats are talking about when they say immigration is "enriching" us: ethnic mafias, gangrapes, honourmurders, acidattacks, groomings, youthrobberies and elder-robberies. We boring swedes didnt even have names for these things before...

(sorry for the rambling, it just gets me very agitated)

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, August 31st, 2004, 06:21 PM
Good article. With all the evidence of the harm mass-immigration is doing now, and will lead to in the future, one has to suspect a sinister agenda behind the "elite" that is forcing it upon us.

BTW, in Sweden we already have ethnic mafias, or pseudo-mafias. The main difference between Sweden and Norway though, is that when some Swedish immigrants made a robbery in Norway and shot a policeman to death, they were presented as "Swedes" in all mainstream swedish media. In Norway they were presented, correctly, as Albanians with Swedish citizenship (belonging to one of our ethnic pseudo-mafias, the "Albanian-gang"). Probably this is what the Social-democrats are talking about when they say immigration is "enriching" us: ethnic mafias, gangrapes, honourmurders, acidattacks, groomings, youthrobberies and elder-robberies. We boring swedes didnt even have names for these things before...

(sorry for the rambling, it just gets me very agitated)

If immigrants are "enriching" Sweden in such a way. Why aren't they getting deported?

Oskorei
Tuesday, August 31st, 2004, 07:38 PM
If immigrants are "enriching" Sweden in such a way. Why aren't they getting deported?

Because swedes are naturally very kind, and belive that everybody is equally kind. And the medial and political "elite" is using this kindness against us.

Väring
Friday, September 3rd, 2004, 05:47 PM
If immigrants are "enriching" Sweden in such a way. Why aren't they getting deported?

It boils down to that our government does not have the ability to adress problems and take proper measures.