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Rodskarl Dubhgall
Wednesday, July 14th, 2004, 08:43 AM
I have read that the mythical Fomorians of Ireland may have had an empire stretching from the British Isles to Norway. The question is, are they truly Celtic or Germanic?

Nordish
Wednesday, July 14th, 2004, 10:27 PM
With the history of the Viking Invasions of the British Isles. It's likely that they were a mix of both. Appropriated reffered to as Celto-Germanic.

There is a significant amount of Viking blood still left from the Viking invasions, that can be found through out the British Isles. Though in more concentrations in some parts than others.

Milesian
Tuesday, July 20th, 2004, 01:31 PM
With the history of the Viking Invasions of the British Isles. It's likely that they were a mix of both. Appropriated reffered to as Celto-Germanic.

There is a significant amount of Viking blood still left from the Viking invasions, that can be found through out the British Isles. Though in more concentrations in some parts than others.

The Fomorians were not Vikings as they pre-dated them by several thousand years. The vikings are relative new-comers and upstarts ;)

The Leabhar Gabala Eireann speaks of them as being something quite apart from subsequent settlers and so we may surmise that they are pre-Celtic.
In addition, there are suggestions that they were not really settled on Ireland, but they were sea-farers with a base on Tory Island.
There have been various ideas of who they were including - Phonecians or possibly an even more ancient people, possibly Bell Beaker folk.

Timo
Friday, July 30th, 2004, 10:20 AM
What kind of language did these Fomorians speak? Germanic, Celtic or Pre-IE?

Milesian
Saturday, July 31st, 2004, 02:15 PM
What kind of language did these Fomorians speak? Germanic, Celtic or Pre-IE?

Unfortunately, we will never know.
The Fomorians have left us nothing, at least nothing we can identify as belonging to them. They exist now only as memories in the ancient Gaelic tales.

However, it is unlikely they spoke a Celtic language and practically no chance they spoke a Germanic language. My guess would be that it wasn't even an IE language.

Due to the time-frame we are talking about and that fact that the Fomorians seemed to have been proficient and advanced sea-farers, I think it likely that they came from the south.
We know from archaeology that peoples such as the Atlanto-Meds and the Bell-Beaker folk travelled from the Med and up the western coast of Europe (Iberia, British Isles, western Scandinavia) in search of metals, so quite possibly the Fomorians equate with these type of peoples