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Oswiu
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 12:30 AM
Sorry to single you out, OFS, but you prompted it!

Originally Posted by OneFakeSaxon http://forums.skadi.net/images/asgard/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=545540#post545540)
"Think of Europe", what enters my head in half a second? The colloseum, Eiffel Tower, Big Ben, fields in France.


Probably quite a common [mis?]conception among Britons.

It invites the question, where does your Europe begin and end? What does the name most readily bring to mind?

All of our responses are obviously going to reveal our peculiar conditioning. Questions of accessibility and media prominence are significant. Simple fashion, too.

MY Europe is one of folklore and romance. The Grimm brothers doubtless have much to answer for here, as has James George Fraser [ author of the spectacular comparative mythology/folklore study 'The Golden Bough'] with his accounts of obscure Hutsul charms and Mordvin rites.... Old peasant costumes come to mind, intricately carved cottage fronts.

Atlantic to the Urals, and beyond, where the Russkies have pulled it!

FORESTS...

ChaosLord
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 01:06 AM
Europe, to me, is the pinnacle of caucasian culture and heritage that needs to be preserved.

Thulean Imperial Inquisitor
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 01:25 AM
Evropa... beloved Evropa! She is so much to me, the most -- the greatest. She is soil, she is an idea, she is a feeling... she is Holy!
She is land, she is air, she is sea... she is trees, rocks, hills, and fields... she is the people and the people are her. She is an unconquerable fortress that is ever laid siege to by darkling hordes all around!



Hail to the mighty, the ritual begins,
Hail to Apollo, the cleanser of sins,
Hail to Europa, she always wins!

- Von Thronstahl



He went looking for Europe, took love in his hand
With eyes of sunlight, like burning sand
Went to the west, rode to the east
Heard of life and honour, looked into the eyes of the beast
Stood in a city, in the gold house of whores
Said: "I'm looking for Europe", then you're looking for war
Sat on the throne of Arthur, held Boudica's sword
Kissed the flags of the great, beneath the towers so tall
Climbed up the hillside, where the eagle still flies
Said: "I'm looking for Europe", well be ready to cry
He walked to the forest, to the lair of the wolf
Said: "I'm looking for Europe, I'll tell you truth."
Some find it in a flag, some in the beat of a drum
Some with a book, and some with a gun
Some in a kiss, and some on the march
But if you're looking for Europe, best look in your heart
- Sol Invictus

Vilay
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 01:32 AM
Europe is nothing - Europe is everything

Skildur
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 01:55 AM
Europa to me is one of Jupiter's moons, what else? :D


http://www.faktabanken.nu/solsyst/jupiter_europa1r.jpg



Well, seriously, Europa to me is mighty kingdoms, green forests and high mountains, and magic fairy-tales of course. :)

Hohenheim
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 02:12 AM
Europe is for me...
http://www.prestigeglass.com/kali/catalogue/images/pewter_beer_glass_1.jpg - The Best one!!! :D

Now really. Europe is a place where I was born, where I live (and want to live), and a place where I will die. I'm proud of that!!!

Ave, Europa, nostra vera patria!
Omnes Europaei te salutant.
Multae gentes summus,
sed tantum stirpes una.
Stemus nos fratres, nunc et semper

Ave, Europa; magna fons scientiae,
philosophiaeque, laudamus te.
Mundo luciferi sunt populi aquilae;
aquila se tollat sine cancellis

Ave, Europa, tibi fidem spondemus;
nobilitas tua aeterna est.
Ubicumque summus, in orbe aut astribus,
ibi es nobiscum semper in spiritu.

Ave, Europa, nostra vera patria

Kurtz
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 02:34 AM
Europe is the mythic place (beyond geography, beyond history, it is for me a spiritual kingdom) where our ancestors lived and which is now raped, destroyed and mutilated by hordes of aliens but also our own people's behaviours and lifestyles :~(

OneEnglishNorman
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 07:41 AM
Clearly, we are influenced by the Romans still. The Mediteranean coast, Tuscany, Florence, Paris, French countryside, Bavaria, Amsterdam, Barcelona....... that's what I think immediately of Europe.

Does Germany and Scandinavia lack distinctive buildings or something.... I cannot explain why "Europe" summons up mostly Med images. In a sense I don't associate Scandinavia with Europe - certainly the Norwegians & Danish are not enthusiastic politically, and it is way up north, semi cut off from middle-Europe.

And then going East - where do you draw the line? Paris is thoroughly European.

Berlin, also. Then... Warsaw? Kiev? Moscow? Beyond?

Not saying it can't be done, but it requires a stretch of imagination, which is not needed when one can summon up the image of the Eiffel Tower or the Louvre (corny, I know).

Nicola_Canadian
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 08:11 AM
europe is where europeads live...

Pro-Alpine
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 08:22 AM
The core of the great Europoid race. But Geographically a peninsula of Asia.

Pervitinist
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 09:55 AM
Europe is a symbol for the racial and cultural unity of white people all over this planet. Countries like the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina are part of Europe not geographically but in the cultural as well as ethnic sense. Europe is not restricted by geography. Vladivostok belongs to Europe just as much as Barcelona and Oslo.

And Europe is not the EU - the EU sucks! :thumbdown

Vorkämpfer
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 11:12 AM
I only want to say that Turkey and turkish culture are not Europe for me...,don't let it join the EU!!

Lusitano
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 12:03 PM
Europe, so much just in a single word. Europe, more than a name, a land of heros, warriors, sailors and beautiful maidens as expressed in the most brilliant tales ever written in the whole world. Europe, the birthplace of the most extraordinary people who ever walked in this planet, a people who own the most fascinating and rich culture and who most offered to the world, the mankind Prometheus. Europe, MY Motherland, OUR Motherland, dear beloved land, turned sacred through the blood of our maryrs, now facing the danger of invasion and colonization and ultimately obliteration.

Wake up Europe! Wake up Europe! From Lisbon to Vladivostok held the sword of freedom, make proud our ancestors proving we deserve their sacrifices for allowing us being what we are today!

MAGNA EUROPA PATRIA NOSTRA EST!

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9545/grandeeuropafo0.png

Eestlane
Thursday, September 21st, 2006, 02:13 PM
Evropa... beloved Evropa! She is so much to me, the most -- the greatest. She is soil, she is an idea, she is a feeling... she is Holy!
She is land, she is air, she is sea... she is trees, rocks, hills, and fields... she is the people and the people are her. She is an unconquerable fortress that is ever laid siege to by darkling hordes all around!


Well said!:thumbup

Thulean Imperial Inquisitor
Friday, September 22nd, 2006, 12:47 AM
Evropa... beloved Evropa! She is so much to me, the most -- the greatest. She is soil, she is an idea, she is a feeling... she is Holy!
She is land, she is air, she is sea... she is trees, rocks, hills, and fields... she is the people and the people are her. She is an unconquerable fortress that is ever laid siege to by darkling hordes all around!Well said!:thumbup

It came straight from my heart! :~(

kiddomoddo
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 05:19 PM
When I think of Europe, immediately in my head it's just western europe, minus Britian. I live in Britian and I just don't feel 'part' of europe. I know I am like, but I don't feel it. Also, all those countries like Bulgaria etc, I've only just found out they were even a part of europe...

OneEnglishNorman
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 07:27 PM
When I think of Europe, immediately in my head it's just western europe, minus Britian. I live in Britian and I just don't feel 'part' of europe. I know I am like, but I don't feel it. Also, all those countries like Bulgaria etc, I've only just found out they were even a part of europe...

It would be nice if we could attach a million tugboats to the British Isles and tow it to North America, nestled between the USA and Canada. I think they would appreciate us more than the Europeans.

Halfway along the Atlantic Ocean we could "boot off" some unwelcome guests :)

Surreal if wishful thinking..................

BasqueDirndl
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 09:50 PM
I only want to say that Turkey and turkish culture are not Europe for me...,don't let it join the EU!!Only a tiny part of Turkey is in europe, so it does not make sense to make it part of the EU. Like more of Russia is in europe, but they are not even being considered. If Turkey joins the EU, then Afghanistan might as well too.

BasqueDirndl
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Europe is a symbol for the racial and cultural unity of white people all over this planet. Countries like the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina are part of Europe not geographically but in the cultural as well as ethnic sense. Europe is not restricted by geography. Vladivostok belongs to Europe just as much as Barcelona and Oslo.

And Europe is not the EU - the EU sucks! :thumbdownOkay, I know that South Africa has a considerable amount of europeans, but I would not say it is majority european. Or is it, I don't think it is.

Pervitinist
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 10:36 PM
Okay, I know that South Africa has a considerable amount of europeans, but I would not say it is majority european. Or is it, I don't think it is.

In the ideal sense, yes. One day, when all the Kaffers have died of HIV, barbarism and stupidity, white people shall reclaim this land as well!

And historically Europeans were the first who settled the country and made it inhabitable in the first place. We shouldnt forget about this. "Africa" doesnt always mean "black".

Oswiu
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 11:27 PM
Only a tiny part of Turkey is in europe, so it does not make sense to make it part of the EU.
Or rather a tiny part of Europe is still under Turkish rule. High time that the Bulgars and Greeks got it back, I say!

BasqueDirndl
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 11:46 PM
In the ideal sense, yes. One day, when all the Kaffers have died of HIV, barbarism and stupidity, white people shall reclaim this land as well!

And historically Europeans were the first who settled the country and made it inhabitable in the first place. We shouldnt forget about this. "Africa" doesnt always mean "black".Thats right, because I believe it wasn't until the europeans started to colonize that the black bushmen started coming in. But there have been tribes capoids that are indigenous there. Or are the bushmen (capoids) from Zimbabwe, Botswana, and then came to South Africa? But they are indigenous to S. Africa too, (capoids) I believe.

Pervitinist
Wednesday, September 27th, 2006, 11:59 PM
Thats right, because I believe it wasn't until the europeans started to colonize that the black bushmen started coming in. But there have been tribes capoids that are indigenous there. Or are the bushmen (capoids) from Zimbabwe, Botswana, and then came to South Africa? But they are indigenous to S. Africa too, (capoids) I believe.

There have been bushmen in S. Africa for some time I think, but since they were half-nomadic hunter-gatherers I wouldnt say that they were the first settlers of the land.

Since the 17th century the settlement by Bantu Negrids from the north and Dutch Boers from the south occured more or less in parallel. So at least in part of what today belongs to South Africa Europeans were the 'aboriginal' settlers, not Negrids.

Drömmarnas Stig
Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 03:39 PM
Europe is the cradle of the earth.
I don't look at Europe as a geographical term, but as a symbol of advanced culture.
Europe for me is western and northern geographical Europe. It ends east of Germany.

Pro-Alpine
Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 08:11 PM
However, pre-multicult Europe was the best era.

Pervitinist
Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 08:17 PM
Europe for me is western and northern geographical Europe. It ends east of Germany.

I agree, but the natural eastern border of Germany is the Pacific Ocean ;)

OMegasPan
Wednesday, October 4th, 2006, 01:43 PM
It would be nice if we could attach a million tugboats to the British Isles and tow it to North America, nestled between the USA and Canada. I think they would appreciate us more than the Europeans.

Halfway along the Atlantic Ocean we could "boot off" some unwelcome guests :)

Surreal if wishful thinking..................


Come on now, dont try to hurt my feelings. Wouldnt you like to be placed, say, between Greece and exotic Albania istead?

OMegasPan
Wednesday, October 4th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Sorry to single you out, OFS, but you prompted it!


Probably quite a common [mis?]conception among Britons.

It invites the question, where does your Europe begin and end? What does the name most readily bring to mind?

All of our responses are obviously going to reveal our peculiar conditioning. Questions of accessibility and media prominence are significant. Simple fashion, too.

MY Europe is one of folklore and romance. The Grimm brothers doubtless have much to answer for here, as has James George Fraser [ author of the spectacular comparative mythology/folklore study 'The Golden Bough'] with his accounts of obscure Hutsul charms and Mordvin rites.... Old peasant costumes come to mind, intricately carved cottage fronts.

Atlantic to the Urals, and beyond, where the Russkies have pulled it!

FORESTS...


Well, apparently Europe is something that Great Britain will never be a part of..


My idea of Europe is actually not mine, it is the true idea of Europe for all living things:

Europe is just a place, stones and land and water and trees. If the people that live there leave themselves to rot, then they shall rot, and the place will be a rotting place.

Apart from the place, Europe is an idea: in the non-material realm, Europe is Greek spirit and science, Roman/Italian essence and law, Germanic methodical organization and order.

If we add English commercialism in the last centuries, and medieval black misery of the western and northen parts mostly, we get what Europe has become today.


The problem is that with the extreme advancement of the Americas, Europe has become less than it expects of herself: a follower. When Europe turns into a complete multiethnoracial commercial market, we can be sure that the role of the 'follower' in the international arena will be of a more permanent nature to her..and maybe then the situation will have become irreversible


Of course, apart from these, there is always the Eurasia theory, where Europe is just a peak of the giant mass of certainly unbeatable, but too diverse to have self-consciousness, hypercontinent of Eurasia!

Bridie
Sunday, October 22nd, 2006, 02:43 PM
Thinking of Europe (particularly the parts of it that my ancestors came from) makes me feel quite melancholic.... it is the land that beonged to my ancestors, the land that fashioned my kin, the land from which my people came.... where my own history lay.... but it is unknown and lost to me. Europe to me, is what a birth parent is to an orphaned child. It's essence and blood runs through my veins, but I do not belong to it, and I do not know it.

Makes me feel almost bitter and resentful that there are people in Europe whose ancestors came from Africa, or Asia, or the Middle East, who can claim to be European, yet I can't. They know my ancestral home and I don't. Sometimes I feel that they have taken my place, and the place of others like me.

Just my 2c worth.

Sigurd Volsung
Sunday, October 22nd, 2006, 03:16 PM
The collective name for a few select nations in the northern hemisphere.

For me, England is everything; the vast majority of Europe means nothing to me.

SineNomine
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 01:02 AM
It would be nice if we could attach a million tugboats to the British Isles and tow it to North America, nestled between the USA and Canada. I think they would appreciate us more than the Europeans.

Halfway along the Atlantic Ocean we could "boot off" some unwelcome guests :)

Surreal if wishful thinking..................
Ideally, we could tow the British Isles , Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa's white bits, and connect them to the North American continent - they could then relocate South America to where Australia used to be (somehow), and Quebec to France. Then we'd have our own little Anglo-European continent, away from all the continental groupdividualism. :)


Or rather a tiny part of Europe is still under Turkish rule. High time that the Bulgars and Greeks got it back, I say!
Indeed. It's time that Turkey was deprived of any legitimacy it may try claim in its endeavours to join the EU. If it joined it, I wouldn't even call it the European Union anymore...

As for which parts remind me of Europe most - I'd have to say Germany, Austria, France and Italy, and ancient Greece moreso than modern Greece.

Mercator
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 01:27 AM
The land of our parents:)

"Europe is the faith and the faith is Europe"
HILAIRE BELLOC:thumbup

Bridie
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 03:36 AM
Ideally, we could tow the British Isles , Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa's white bits, and connect them to the North American continent - they could then relocate South America to where Australia used to be (somehow), and Quebec to France. Then we'd have our own little Anglo-European continent, away from all the continental groupdividualism. :)
OMG!!! :-O What a HORRENDOUS thought!! Would we all then be doomed to become even more like the US than we already are?? Americanisation = degeneration.

SineNomine
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 12:10 PM
OMG!!! :-O What a HORRENDOUS thought!! Would we all then be doomed to become even more like the US than we already are?? Americanisation = degeneration.
Meh, stay on your own then. :P

Hohenheim
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 12:55 PM
Ideally, we could tow the British Isles , Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa's white bits, and connect them to the North American continent - they could then relocate South America to where Australia used to be (somehow), and Quebec to France. Then we'd have our own little Anglo-European continent, away from all the continental groupdividualism.

Oh mate, you got some strange ideas... but at least ideas.
How many sleepless nights have you spent to make up all this?;)

SineNomine
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 01:19 PM
Oh mate, you got some strange ideas... but at least ideas.
How many sleepless nights have you spent to make up all this?;)
... Well, I've always wanted Britain to form a Commonwealth alliance between all these nations as an alternative to the EU - OFS simply inspired the next step. :) Glueing them all together.

Sigurd Volsung
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 06:19 PM
OMG!!! :-O What a HORRENDOUS thought!! Would we all then be doomed to become even more like the US than we already are?? Americanisation = degeneration.

I totally agree with you. England should stay separate from the USA geographically; it would be insane to somehow 'move' England there ...

A commonwealth alliance, possibly; but it would be too hard to cement that notion together, as we're all too culturally, linguistically, and historically divided.

SineNomine
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 06:31 PM
I totally agree with you. England should stay separate from the USA geographically; it would be insane to somehow 'move' England there ...
As well as impossible. :(


A commonwealth alliance, possibly; but it would be too hard to cement that notion together, as we're all too culturally, linguistically, and historically divided.
Linguistically, how? All are English speaking nations. Culturally, how? Again, these nations are not too different - not to the extent that, say, France and Germany are. Such an alliance would be far looser than anything the EU is or could be. What is, though, absurd is to try and stick the British Isles in with the other European nations, with which they truly have little in common. The worthless EU somehow manages with so many incompatible cultures and systems - an alliance between nations with certain similar outlooks should logically fare far better.

Sigurd Volsung
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 06:38 PM
As well as impossible. :(


Linguistically, how? All are English speaking nations. Culturally, how? Again, these nations are not too different - not to the extent that, say, France and Germany are. Such an alliance would be far looser than anything the EU is or could be. What is, though, absurd is to try and stick the British Isles in with the other European nations, with which they truly have little in common. The worthless EU somehow manages with so many incompatible cultures and systems - an alliance between nations with certain similar outlooks should logically fare far better.

Yes, we can all speak English, but not to the same degree. Culturally, we are different in places; and I believe we should stick to our own, without the influences of other [former] colonies. I am not in favour of England in the EU, as there is very little this 'all-European' community can offer England, apart from an obscene number of immigrants ...

SineNomine
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 06:42 PM
I am not in favour of England in the EU, as there is very little this 'all-European' community can offer England, apart from an obscene number of immigrants ...
We agree on that then. Problem is, how does an individual nation survive the onslaught of the Asian tigers? Or of the Continental economies, should it secede from their union? To me, it would be logical to pursue an economic alliance, and perhaps even military alliance, with nations of similar mind, an alliance that doesn't involve ceding a nation's sovereignty over to some overgrown bureaucracy.

California Love
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 06:42 PM
A commonwealth alliance, possibly; but it would be too hard to cement that notion together, as we're all too culturally, linguistically, and historically divided.
Well, as was said above, a Anglo alliance would have FAR more in common than any alliance that countries like England, Sweden, Italy, and Spain are in. Those countries are all historically, linguistically, and culturally divided, surely much more than say the anglo countries.

While countries like America, Australia and England are obviously not identical, I beleive they DO have much more in common than anything found where those countries are now....IE, Australia in south-east asia, England in Europe, Zuid-Afrika in Southern Africa....ect.

OneEnglishNorman
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 07:10 PM
Alliances are not necessary. Especially economic.

Free trade and selective immigration is the way forward, not trade blocs. Even an English-speaking union would degenerate through negative incentives (lack of political competition, large electorate, large tax base to buy military toys with).

Amazing how often people leap to dreaming up ever grander political inter-national unions, yet they will wet themselves over McDonalds & Burger King price-fixing a bottle of Coca Cola.

In other words, inter-country competition (for high-quality immigrants, finance, investment) is just as important as inter-business competition.

SineNomine
Monday, October 23rd, 2006, 07:24 PM
Alliances are not necessary. Especially economic.

Free trade and selective immigration is the way forward, not trade blocs.
Naturally. The last thing we would want to do is mimick the EU. I was using the word alliance in a pretty loose context. :) As in, no more than a series of trade agreements, and perhaps contingency mutual defence pacts.

OMegasPan
Wednesday, October 25th, 2006, 11:59 PM
The collective name for a few select nations in the northern hemisphere.

For me, England is everything; the vast majority of Europe means nothing to me.


England means nothing to the vast majority of Europe, too.

Scotland has the whiskeys though, we cant ignore this offer to mankind.

OMegasPan
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 12:05 AM
Ideally, we could tow the British Isles , Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa's white bits, and connect them to the North American continent - they could then relocate South America to where Australia used to be (somehow), and Quebec to France.


Good luck



As for which parts remind me of Europe most - I'd have to say Germany, Austria, France and Italy, and ancient Greece moreso than modern Greece.


Have you been there ,Germanic 'Hellenic' Anglicised Protestant Afrikaaner?!

SineNomine
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 12:23 AM
England means nothing to the vast majority of Europe, too.

Scotland has the whiskeys though, we cant ignore this offer to mankind.
Typical ignorance about the British Isles...


Good luck
Danke.


Have you been there ,Germanic 'Hellenic' Anglicised Protestant Afrikaaner?!
I've read about it.

Are you done with the veiled ad-hominems?

Oswiu
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 12:30 AM
Ideally, we could tow the British Isles , Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa's white bits, and connect them to the North American continent - they could then relocate South America to where Australia used to be (somehow), and Quebec to France. Then we'd have our own little Anglo-European continent, away from all the continental groupdividualism. :)
It was a tight squeeze, but I just about managed it! Unfortunately, the North West Passage was too narrow for Great Britain to be towed through, so I had it airlifted. During the operation, though, it cracked along the Forth-Clyde Isthmus. Oops!
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2020/hudsonzz7.jpg
I brought the Irish too. Wouldn't want them getting lonely! ;)

SineNomine
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 12:36 AM
It was a tight squeeze, but I just about managed it! Unfortunately, the North West Passage was too narrow for Great Britain to be towed through, so I had it airlifted. During the operation, though, it cracked along the Forth-Clyde Isthmus. Oops!
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2020/hudsonzz7.jpg
I brought the Irish too. Wouldn't want them getting lonely! ;)
LOL Excellent work. :D Now we must tow a small part of South Africa over too - just the best bits. The Aussies don't want to join us though. :(

Oswiu
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:00 AM
LOL Excellent work. :D Now we must tow a small part of South Africa over too - just the best bits. The Aussies don't want to join us though. :(
It's alright - Greenland should be nice and warm in a bit, and the both of yous can settle there.
Sorry, Inuit! You have to go and live with the Abos. ;)

California Love
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:02 AM
It was a tight squeeze, but I just about managed it! Unfortunately, the North West Passage was too narrow for Great Britain to be towed through, so I had it airlifted. During the operation, though, it cracked along the Forth-Clyde Isthmus. Oops!
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2020/hudsonzz7.jpg
I brought the Irish too. Wouldn't want them getting lonely! ;)
Thats awesome, haha. Now we just need to move Latin America over to the east a bit, and attach them to the Iberia (after all, the Iberians wanted Latin-America so bad), and stick Australia, and New Zealand in its place. :thumbup

SineNomine
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:06 AM
It's alright - Greenland should be nice and warm in a bit, and the both of yous can settle there.
Sorry, Inuit! You have to go and live with the Abos. ;)
Extermination, colonization, evolution. We'll re-emerge as Norse Ubermensch from the frostlands. :) And it's stuck right next to Canada, so close enough. ^^


Thats awesome, haha. Now we just need to move Latin America over to the east a bit, and attach them to the Iberia (after all, the Iberians wanted Latin-America so bad), and stick Australia, and New Zealand in its place. :thumbup
I doubt most Iberians here would want Latin America wholesale attached to Iberia...

California Love
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:10 AM
I dount most Iberians here would want Latin America wholesale attached to Iberia...
They spent millions of pounds of gold, thousands of men, thousands of ships, hundreds of years, and multiple wars to get Latin-America for themselves...they should get what they deserve. :thumbup

Oswiu
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:22 AM
They spent millions of pounds of gold, thousands of men, thousands of ships, hundreds of years, and multiple wars to get Latin-America for themselves...they should get what they deserve. :thumbup
I'm sorry CL, but I don't feel you're sufficiently 'in-group' to make such tasteless jokes about my Iberian kin. Even in jest I don't want to hear things like that from a nonEuropean. :thumbdown

OMegasPan
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:25 AM
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2020/hudsonzz7.jpg



Yupi!

Now that the pervs have gone, we can at last create the 4th Reich in Europe, make an alliance with the Chinese, unite Eurasia and wipe the evil united anglo continent from the face of this planet!

California Love
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:28 AM
I'm sorry CL, but I don't feel you're sufficiently 'in-group' to make such tasteless jokes about my Iberian kin. Even in jest I don't want to hear things like that from a nonEuropean. :thumbdown
Fortunatly, I can still enjoy what I said, without your approval, and also Europeans make fun of Americans ALL the time, it is only fair we reciprocate from time to time.;)

Glynd Eastŵd
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:31 AM
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2020/hudsonzz7.jpg
I brought the Irish too. Wouldn't want them getting lonely! ;)

Interesting concept, but I think it would be cooler if there were a separate Celtic land mass. You could attach Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall and Wales together. It's not really fair to group them in your Anglo-supremacy continent, as they've been opressed for long enough. Brittany, and perhaps even select parts of Iberia like Galicia could also be added too.

Oswiu
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 01:47 AM
Interesting concept, but I think it would be cooler if there were a separate Celtic land mass. You could attach Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall and Wales together. It's not really fair to group them in your Anglo-supremacy continent, as they've been opressed for long enough. Brittany, and perhaps even select parts of Iberia like Galicia could also be added too.
Hehe, where we are NOW is where we belong! I was just curious if we'd fit! Where would the Celts be without their Significant Other? :D
Europe's fine as it is - it's the rest that need 'adjusting'...

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Hohenheim
Thursday, October 26th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Hehe, where we are NOW is where we belong! I was just curious if we'd fit! Where would the Celts be without their Significant Other? :D
Europe's fine as it is - it's the rest that need 'adjusting'...

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=54849&d=1143246756

The Indian and Atlantic ocean are now fused into one, and my beloved Adria is connected with this... "super ocean". Hmmm??? Works for me! :D

Mercator
Friday, October 27th, 2006, 01:20 AM
They spent millions of pounds of gold, thousands of men, thousands of ships, hundreds of years, and multiple wars to get Latin-America for themselves...they should get what they deserve. :thumbup

"Black legend": a Jewish invention against Spain and the Holy Church:thumbdown

California Love
Saturday, October 28th, 2006, 03:23 AM
"Black legend": a Jewish invention against Spain and the Holy Church:thumbdown
Um...what? Care to explain yourself?

Mercator
Saturday, October 28th, 2006, 05:04 AM
Um...what? Care to explain yourself?

Some info:

http://www.catholicleague.org/research/blacklegend.htm
http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Dossier/1112-96/article2.html

California Love
Saturday, October 28th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Some info:

http://www.catholicleague.org/research/blacklegend.htm
http://www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/Dossier/1112-96/article2.html
So...this is about the inquisition....when I said this:

They spent millions of pounds of gold, thousands of men, thousands of ships, hundreds of years, and multiple wars to get Latin-America for themselves...they should get what they deserve. :thumbup

How do the two relate?:|

Mercator
Saturday, October 28th, 2006, 11:52 PM
It's the same; jews and brits invented the "black legend" about the Conquista and the Inquisition.

Oswiu
Sunday, October 29th, 2006, 12:32 AM
It's the same; jews and brits invented the "black legend" about the Conquista and the Inquisition.
Oh Give over!
These legends were very useful when your lot were sending Armadas to conquer us! And kindly put a B on Brit. :thumbdown
Don't forget that it was the Nederlander Protestants who did a lot to blacken the Spaniards' name - but I wonder why they did this? What could have been wrong in the 'Spanish Netherlands', I wonder? :chinrub
:pope :kkkhood :kkkhood
:fpope: :fpope: :fpope: :fpope:
:knight:burn:whip:knight
:stabbed :dead :death :tombstone :tombstone :tombstone
:goethe:goethe:goethe

BUT THAT'S all past. Why go on about fellow Europeans if a California Jew is perpetuating Black Legends?

California Love
Sunday, October 29th, 2006, 01:12 AM
It's the same; jews and brits invented the "black legend" about the Conquista and the Inquisition.
Again, kindly explain what is made up and "Jewish" or 'British" or "whatever other conspiracy you want to pull out of thin air" about this:


They spent millions of pounds of gold, thousands of men, thousands of ships, hundreds of years, and multiple wars to get Latin-America for themselves...they should get what they deserve. :thumbup

You are totally sidestepping the issue, and providing me links to stuff about the Inquisition, to further your debate, when I made NO mention of the inquisition.

Explain yourself, por favor.

California Love
Sunday, October 29th, 2006, 01:14 AM
BUT THAT'S all past. Why go on about fellow Europeans if a California Jew is perpetuating Black Legends?
What black legends am I perpetuating? I didnt even mention the inquisition!?:|

Mercator
Monday, October 30th, 2006, 12:40 AM
Oh Give over!
These legends were very useful when your lot were sending Armadas to conquer us! And kindly put a B on Brit. :thumbdown
Don't forget that it was the Nederlander Protestants who did a lot to blacken the Spaniards' name - but I wonder why they did this? What could have been wrong in the 'Spanish Netherlands', I wonder? :chinrub
:pope :kkkhood :kkkhood
:fpope: :fpope: :fpope: :fpope:
:knight:burn:whip:knight
:stabbed :dead :death :tombstone :tombstone :tombstone
:goethe:goethe:goethe

BUT THAT'S all past. Why go on about fellow Europeans if a California Jew is perpetuating Black Legends?

Yeah, that's all past, now we have the same enemy;):thumbup

Poor C.L., the Inquisition burned him:D