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Zyklop
Monday, August 14th, 2006, 08:47 PM
"The most liberal state that ever existed on German soil." ~ self-portrait of the Federal Republic of Germany




Discovering Absurdistan



The Deterioration of Civil Right under the Influence of Wartime Propaganda



By Germar Rudolf

What kind of a country is it where a considerable part of the people think, singing their national anthem could be forbidden?
What country is it where folksingers might be put in jail for singing peaceful songs?
What kind of a country is it where a mother of five gets a prison term for having sold one CD with peaceful music on it?
What country is it where a pastor raising his national flag in his church would get kicked out of his parish for being an extremist?
What country is it where somebody raising his country's flag would be harassed by his neighbors for being an extremist?
What country is it where a teacher suggesting that all students should sing the national anthem first thing every morning would lose his job for being an extremist?
What country is it where showing uncompromised flags of its past is considered a threat to "public peace"?
What country is it where people can get fined for raising an arm to wave their hands at a person?
What country is it where people can be fined for collecting and displaying full-scale models of historical weapons?
What country is it where one can be fined or sent to jail for showing symbols and insignia that have been, and still are, used in many cultures for centuries and millennia?
What country is it where a professor who writes his disbelief about certain historical events in a footnote, written in Latin, in a scholarly anthology can be prosecuted and threatened with jail?
What country is it where a judge, writing a well-founded, but highly controversial book on historical topics, sees his book confiscated and burned, his pension cut, and his PhD title withdrawn as a result of this?
What country is it where a highly renowned historian writing a well-founded book of his country's history can be threatened with prosecution because what he found out is not liked by the authorities?
What country is it where a history teacher is sent to jail for uttering historical dissent in a private letter to a high-profile personality?
What country is it where a professor criticizing internationalism can be kicked out of his job, harassed, prosecuted and driven into suicide?
What country is it that sends a historical dissenter to prison for more than two years just because he published peaceful, scholarly historical material?
What country is it that denigrates, defames and humiliates its war veterans to such a degree that finally one of them burns himself publicly in protest against what he calls a "Niagara flood of lies" against his generation?
What country is it that outlaws the commemoration of such a self-sacrifices and punishes everybody who dares to publish this man's last appeal?
What country is it where well-founded, heavily footnoted books on political and historical topics, authored by academics with plenty of credentials, can be confiscated and burned by the authorities?
What country is it where authors, editors, publishers, printers, wholesalers, retailers, importers and exporters, warehouses, and customers buying more than two copies of a certain medium can be prosecuted for producing, stocking, importing/exporting, distributing dissenting political and historical literature?
What country is it that hides from its citizens, which media are outlawed, so that one cannot possibly know whether or not one commits a crime when distributing such media?
What country is it where judges are threatened with prosecution because they did not punish political and historical dissenters harshly enough?
What country is it that outlaws the introduction of exonerating evidence?
What country is it that prosecutes defense lawyers if they try to introduce exonerating evidence on behalf of their clients?
What country is it that does not keep records of what is said and is happening during trial proceedings?
What country is it that has institutions designed to conduct political trials?
What country is it that has a huge spy agency designed to snoop on opposition groups?
What country is it where members of certain political opposition groups considered constitutional can nevertheless be deprived of some of their civil rights?
What country is it that, according to experts, will be a totalitarian state very soon, if things keep developing as they did so far?
What country is it where even the mainstream media admit that this country is in a state of hysteria while persecuting political dissidents?
What country is it where the head of state asks for children to spy on their parents and parents to spy on their children to make sure they do not harbor unwanted political views?
What country is it where authorities and the public declare publicly to fight everything that is deemed to be politically on the right?
What country is it where the authorities declare that half of their population deserves to be ostracized for harboring political views?
What country is it that is proud of conducting more than 10,000 criminal prosecutions against persons for having committed peaceful "thought crimes"?
What is the country in the world with the second harshest censorship after China?
What country would that be???

The correct answer is:



Germany



Surprised? If so, read on (http://www.germarrudolf.com/civil/civil.html).

Janus
Monday, August 14th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Hrhr nice list eventhough I think that North Korea has harsher censorship then China and Germany.

Sigurd Volsung
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 02:23 AM
And I thought England was bad - how contradictory this thread must be to my earlier belief!

It is truly sickening that one is not allowed to sing their own national anthem, as they would be branded as a 'thuggish bigot' (that title belongs solely to the individuals who promote any anti-nationalistic ideals).

I can only imagine this pattern following - to probably a somewhat lesser degree than Germany's - all over the Western world in due time. It's sad but true; but that's where I can estimate this course to be heading.

Cole Nidray
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 02:44 AM
Quite informative, thanks Zyklop.

Hrhr nice list eventhough I think that North Korea has harsher censorship then China and Germany.
The censorship of North Korea is healthy protection of the Korean volk, that is the opposite of the censorship in Germany and Capitalist China.

nätdeutsch
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 03:05 AM
the Second World War really ruined everything, didnt it?

Amorsite
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 03:18 AM
What is even more ineresting are the numbers, over 90k "right wing" people persecuted since 1994.

Æthelweard
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 07:18 AM
And I thought England was bad - how contradictory this thread must be to my earlier belief!



Until I read down to the last few lines I thought it was about England. This will get worse before it gets better.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 07:28 AM
Much of this post is mirrored in attitudes in countries elsewhere but we all understand the specific example, Germany, which seems to incorporate all complaints at once. There are so many problems mentioned in this one post that it is something special. Just about ever grip and complaint voiced in threads here is included in this one post. I nominate Zyklop and this post as Post of the Year.

Zyklop
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 07:34 AM
Much of this post is mirrored in attitudes in countries elsewhere but we all understand the specific example, Germany, which seems to incorporate all complaints at once. There are so many problems mentioned in this one post that it is something special. Just about ever grip and complaint voiced in threads here is included in this one post. I nominate Zyklop and this post as Post of the Year.LOL, thank you but it´s not my article, you know.
If you want to help Germar Rudolf, who currently is incarcerated by the FRG, check out this:

http://www.germarrudolf.com/support/help_germar.php

J.B. Basset
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 07:49 AM
:) I thought this was an article about every single country in the so called "European Union".:D

Zyklop
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 07:55 AM
:) I thought this was an article about every single country in the so called "European Union".:DRevisionism isn´t even illegal in some countries of the EU. How many political prosecutions happen in Great Britain for example?

Amorsite
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 10:33 AM
I find the anti-arab reference "absurdistan" annoying. What are the countries in which revisionists are welcome? Muslim countries and arab. Who was the only presiednt to ever embrace publically revisionism?A muslim president. Who was the only president to stand up for the germans and incarcerated people like him? A muslim president.

Thusnelda
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 12:19 PM
All chains will break with time. Even the chains that make proud Germans to victims of their state.

Aptrgangr
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 02:11 PM
I find the anti-arab reference "absurdistan" annoying. What are the countries in which revisionists are welcome? Muslim countries and arab. Who was the only presiednt to ever embrace publically revisionism?A muslim president. Who was the only president to stand up for the germans are incarcerated people like him? A muslim president.

Don't be worried, soon enough, within this century, your friends will have established the most anti-liberal and most anti-zionistic state on German soil ever. What a vision of a collectivistic society where pure-blooded mongrel zealots live in freedom and no longer are incarcerated...
http://tinypic.com/23w5us4.jpg


http://www.moschee-schluechtern.de/deutschland_2030.htm

Loki
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 03:37 PM
Things will start getting better for Germans when the old hippie generation has died off. Patience is all that will help ... :) Things will naturally return to normality in years to come. Human evolutionary instincts are far stronger than 100 years of negative teaching and oppression.

Amorsite
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Things will start getting better for Germans when the old hippie generation has died off. Patience is all that will help ... :) Things will naturally return to normality in years to come. Human evolutionary instincts are far stronger than 100 years of negative teaching and oppression.
this generation is being fed the same liberal dogma the hippies practiced.

Jäger
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 04:32 PM
this generation is being fed the same liberal dogma the hippies practiced.
But they don't practise it, like the hippies did. It will die off, I agree with Wolf Slayer, still that won't be enough.

Amorsite
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 04:35 PM
But they don't practise it, like the hippies did. It will die off, I agree with Wolf Slayer, still that won't be enough.
maybe they dont get high and live in tents, but they still act accordingly, something notable for their lack of reaction to the destruction of their people.
Ideas dont change just like that, the masses will always believe what they are tought, this is an ideological war above all. We must get as many rational people as we can and organize them.

Pragmatiker
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 10:42 PM
I would add to the list the insane socialist economy and the belive a "welfare state" can work.

WehrWolf.
Wednesday, August 16th, 2006, 12:39 AM
Some of the points shown there could reminds much of France too.

in addition :
- What country is it where you have to use anonymous proxy in order to browse some forbidden websites ? France

Btw, I couldn't display the http://www.germarrudolf.com/ website without a proxy (such as https://proxify.com ) as well, maybe it's forbidden too from here.


I find the anti-arab reference "absurdistan" annoying.

the -stan suffix is certainly not arabic/semitic (not used there), but from indo-aryano-european lands such as old Persia. See http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/stan.htm
I'm wondering if it couldn't have the same root as "sted" (place) in Scandinavian (it's just a guess...)

Peter
Friday, November 17th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Europe has to change completely, but we have different views in this changing. IMO one of the most important problems is the democracy and the another is the economical system, Hugo Wast in his book 666, spoke very well about that.