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Skalagrim
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Whether are Trønders Nordids or Cro-Magnids?

Pro-Alpine
Monday, August 14th, 2006, 12:32 AM
They are Brunn + Corded + Nordid. To me some of them could easily just pass as classic Nordids(If you don't count their prominent cheekbones)

Amorsite
Monday, August 14th, 2006, 12:36 AM
By definition, they are both. For a description of tronder types, check the gallery at www.nordish.com (http://www.nordish.com)

Wolfssangel
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 12:16 AM
They are Brunn + Corded + Nordid.

This correct.

Theudiskaz
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pro-Alpine http://forums.skadi.net/images/asgard/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=505532#post505532)
They are Brunn + Corded + Nordid.


This correct.
Although the order is somewhat misleading.;) Troenders are predominantly Nordid.

Wolfssangel
Tuesday, August 15th, 2006, 12:30 AM
Yes, Thonders are the Nordid. My phenotype is Hallstatt Nordid. My closely has been Anglo-Saxon. ;)

Väring
Saturday, August 26th, 2006, 01:09 PM
The Trønder is a variable strain, ranging in type from large, Irish-looking Cro-Magnid individuals (cf. Brünn) and tall, slender Battle-Axe survivors (Corded type), to almost completely Nordid populations (to the point at which it is more sensible to talk about Trønder-influenced Nordids).

http://www.snpa.skadi.net/rg-tronder.htm

Lundman had them as a form of (Scando-)Nordid, but i see nothing terribly wrong with the definition of SNPA.

Slætartind
Monday, January 12th, 2009, 03:30 PM
I don´t know if I´m considered a Trønder or a Borreby or something else.
I´m 1.85, heavily and robust built, have broad shoulders. I weigh 100 kg (maybe there is a few kg too much on me, but that's another story)
Blue eyes, brown- light brown hair, blond beard :)
Fairly round head, long forehead, compared to the face, big nose and a pretty long head compared to the width.
PS: I don´t wanna post a picture of me.

JohnM
Sunday, February 14th, 2010, 11:46 PM
I'd like to see a good example of a Trønder as I've never really been 100% clear on them.

Archeopteryx
Saturday, April 17th, 2010, 02:49 PM
I don´t know if I´m considered a Trønder or a Borreby or something else.
I´m 1.85, heavily and robust built, have broad shoulders. I weigh 100 kg (maybe there is a few kg too much on me, but that's another story)
Blue eyes, brown- light brown hair, blond beard :)
Fairly round head, long forehead, compared to the face, big nose and a pretty long head compared to the width.
PS: I don´t wanna post a picture of me.


I think this guy looks Tronder.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3563&stc=1&d=1263165803

Archeopteryx
Saturday, April 17th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I think this guy looks Tronder.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3563&stc=1&d=1263165803

leptoproscopic, dolicocephalic, leptosomic, deep set eyes, high cheekbones, prominent jaw, often but not exclusively depigmented.

Agrippa
Saturday, April 17th, 2010, 03:37 PM
I think that from the same set of Norwegian people pictures, this male is a much better example for a Tronder:
http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=104710&stc=1&d=1271514767

The other still quite typically Nordid I think.

Generally speaking, the Tronder-subtype is in my opinion an altered (through Cromagnoid influences) version of the standard Nordid type. So Nordoid at least and Nordoid more than Cromagnoid.

F.e. this Tronder-variant is clearly still inside of the Nordid range in my opinion:
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/581/troender1oz.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/i/troender1oz.jpg/)

Probably the Eastnordid/Corded component is much stronger than Cromagnoid in this strain.

Rassenhygieniker
Monday, April 19th, 2010, 09:51 AM
Whether are Trønders Nordids or Cro-Magnids?

I'd say that depends very much on the Tronder, I'd say the majority of Tronders are just robust Nordid. But some Tronders are more Cromagnoid than Nordid, such as Dolph Lundgren for example.

Fable
Monday, April 19th, 2010, 11:14 AM
The only difference I see between Tronders and Nordids are the more prominent cheek bones, slightly wider face, and also notably, their seemingly anti-Mongoloid eye shape.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2yw7llj.jpg

Agrippa
Monday, April 19th, 2010, 01:06 PM
The only difference I see between Tronders and Nordids are the more prominent cheek bones, slightly wider face, and also notably, their seemingly anti-Mongoloid eye shape.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2yw7llj.jpg

Thats common in basic Nordid too as well as most other nordid-südeuropid/aurignacoid racial types.

Hooten wrote that eyes/orbits which go down externally are more often correlated with narrow faces, those which go upward more often with broad ones.

Thats true and eyes/orbits which go down are generally associated, in Europids, with narrow faced and strongly Europid variants more often, both in Europe and outside of it.

Straight ones are commonest, those which go upward are more common among infantile and Mongoliform variants, though they can occur sporadically otherwise too, one has to look at the complete package of course.

So I dont think that Tronder-variants are something peculiar because of this trait, because there are plenty of Nordid, Mediterranid, Dinarid, Iranid, Arabid, Indid etc. variants with the same eyes, its just more common in the progressive leptoprosopic spectrum.