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Horagalles
Wednesday, June 14th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Could anyone explain what the difference between Cromagnid and Alpinid is?! What is the origine of this races...

Zyklop
Wednesday, June 14th, 2006, 05:32 PM
Alpinids are neotenic Cro-Magnoids.

Agrippa
Wednesday, June 14th, 2006, 05:56 PM
Alpinids being the result of Alpinisation of different Cromagnoid forms, with the main form being close to modern Palaeatlantids and Berids rather in Western-Central Europe, for the basic Westalpinids. They became reduced, pyknomorphised, brachycephalised and more infantile. The degree can vary since the Alpinisation is rather a process.
Other Cromagnoid forms of the North f.e. became Alpinised too, mainly through both admixture of older (classic) Alpinid forms and certain selective pressures (low energy, nutritional deficits, social adaptation, sedentary farmer existence, plagues etc.).

F.e. Swiss examples:
Standard Alpinid:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8611/19jv.png
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8611/19jv.png
More progressive standard Alpinid (compare profile):
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8013/47tn1.png
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8013/47tn1.png
Reduced Alpinoid variant which developed from a Nordoid-Cromagnoid base:
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2672/581og.png
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2672/581og.png
Extremely roundheaded Alpinid:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4681/678jh.png
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4681/678jh.png
Very reduced-infantile Alpinid:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/594/510hb.png
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/594/510hb.png
Extreme Alpinid:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4908/205ze.png
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4908/205ze.png
More robust Alpinid:
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1781/233eh.png
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1781/233eh.png
Alpinoid with significant Cromagnoid tendencies:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6352/229uy.png
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6352/229uy.png
Part Alpinised Cromagnoid:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7572/445yt.png
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7572/445yt.png
Part Alpinised Cromagoid:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7029/647de.png
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7029/647de.png

Georgie boy
Saturday, June 17th, 2006, 12:02 AM
Could anyone explain the different types of Cromagnid?, and your origin?

Pro-Alpine
Wednesday, June 28th, 2006, 10:32 PM
Could anyone explain the different types of Cromagnid?, and your origin?

they are basically Europids altered by Cromagnid admixture.

The European Subtypes are

Dalofaelid, Eastcromagnid, Borreby, and Brunn.

The North-African ones are

Berberid and Berid.

There are several diffrences, some Cromagnid types are more robust than the others.

Horagalles
Saturday, November 25th, 2006, 09:25 AM
Interesting, they seem to be young men or boys of school going age. Reminds me a bit of Afrikaners. And in the case of the more infantilized examples of bywooners and German/Dutch peasants as well.

Horagalles
Saturday, February 20th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Alpinids being the result of Alpinisation of different Cromagnoid forms, with the main form being close to modern Palaeatlantids and Berids rather in Western-Central Europe, for the basic Westalpinids. They became reduced, pyknomorphised, brachycephalised and more infantile. The degree can vary since the Alpinisation is rather a process.
Other Cromagnoid forms of the North f.e. became Alpinised too, mainly through both admixture of older (classic) Alpinid forms and certain selective pressures (low energy, nutritional deficits, social adaptation, sedentary farmer existence, plagues etc.).

F.e. Swiss examples:
Standard Alpinid:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8611/19jv.png
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8611/19jv.png (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimg227.i mageshack.us%2Fimg227%2F8611%2F19jv.png)
More progressive standard Alpinid (compare profile):...
...I usually imagine alpines to be even more rounded in skull shape. A bit of the "Moonface"-Effect. The more "squareheaded types" I reckon to be more cromagnid or even faelid.

This one on the otherhand, let's me think of....
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7572/445yt.png
.... Willem Dafoe, at least a bit:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/WillemDafoe09TIFF.jpg

Agrippa
Monday, February 22nd, 2010, 11:41 PM
Not by chance, both by general appearance, features of robustness and metrical traits he is definitely Dalofaelid influenced.

The more globular headed variants are quite often either very infantile-reduced variants, this being obviously more pronounced in the female sex, or tend towards the high skulled Cromagno-Alpinoid category which approached Borreby variants.

The typical Westalpinid is not particularly high headed, yet I know very well what you mean with this effect, because the globular appearance without distant parts is the extreme tendency of Alpinisation or its theoretical end result. A smooth globe without charakter, which is the basic tendency of rather infantile pyknomorphs in general and which makes them, on average, more smooth and less fault-prone, with less extreme growth tendencies than leptomorphs which have both more harmonious/attractive/intelligent and less disharmonious/attractive/intelligent variants, a greater variance it seems.

Thats easy to recognise if looking at any mature-leptomorphic group of people and comparing them with infantile-pyknomorphic ones, with the latter looking usually more similar, less variable.

Andrew man
Saturday, November 13th, 2010, 07:24 PM
If anyone is interested I posted a topic to classify myself. It is in the personal tax. section. I guess I am a Bruenn Cro-magnon with Alpine traits as well! ;)