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Georgia
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 09:52 AM
Everyone has a "region" which he or she considers his/her homeland.

What country do you consider your homeland ? Or your adopted homeland?

Please state how you feel about your homeland and why.

Georgia:)

Walvater Wotan
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 10:15 AM
My homeland is the German Empire. To be more precisely all my family was forced to leave their homeland Silesia after WW2. I feel very prowd of my homeland because Germany is the country which invented most of the today important things and which has or at least had the most brilliant culture in the world. But today huge parts of the Empire are stolen like Silesia and the society is full of lies and wrong believes. My aim is to stick to old feelings and believes and then to build up a Germany which we only know through the stories of our grandfathers. I guess lots of comrades in this forum are of quite the same opinion. We have to love our beautiful country and with this feeling of pride in our hearts we can recreate our real homeland - the Greater German Empire.
Mit deutschem Grusse!

war
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 10:32 AM
My homeland reaches from the Maas to the Memel and from the Etsch to the Belt, it's Germany. I love my homeland and when I stay in foreign countries I miss it hardly, but when I come back I could jump for joy or kiss the ground like the pope does it :D

My homeland is in a worse constitution, but I'm not the kind of person who leave ill friends, I fight for their health!

Konrad
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 10:49 AM
My Homeland ist Western Flanders, especialy the Region of the Leie, where I was born and grew up. It is slightly hilled and I love the character of the Western Flemish, and also it tongue. These People are straight and do not obey to obey, they do what they believe is right for themselves, no matter what other people think. They are hard workersand have initiatif. It is no wonder why especialy Western Flanders delivers most best sportsmen and politicians for Flanders. If one names up some great flemisch Nationalists, they are to the half from Western Flanders.

Vliegt de Blauwvoet,
Storm op see!

Georgia
Monday, May 22nd, 2006, 02:07 PM
I thank all of you who responded to this Thread and have shared their feelings about the place(s) that you call home. I reckon it is my turn now. Growing up in South Germany I never thought that I would be calling another place beside Germany my homeland. When I turned 18, Providence had other plans for me.

During a visit to the United States, a wonderful Southern gentleman "pursued" me for about four month and asked me to be his wife and to live in Georgia. After his third marriage proposal, I accepted. As husband and wife, we became one in flesh and spirit; we took our vows,"For better or for worse, until death do us part," very serious, and it was an unspoken understanding that our children would not only be born in Georgia, but they would be raised there as well.

I believe one of the reasons I "assimilated" so well is because rural Georgia, still today, reminds me of the Germany of my youth. Sometimes one could "almost" think that time is standing still in our part of Georgia. I never encountered any anti-German sentiment here. As a matter of fact, many people around here have German ancestry as well as Scottish, Irish and English.


Perhaps the best way to tell you about my adopted homeland is using the words of our 14 year old daughter, The Georgia Peach Girl:


http://www.life-in-dixie.com/archive/georgia.html (http://www.life-in-dixie.com/archive/georgia.html)


Georgia:)


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"This war is essentially a war of conquest. If ever a nation did wage such a war, the North is now engaged, with a determination worthy of a more hopeful cause, in endeavouring to conquer the South; but the more I think of all that I have seen in the Confederate States of the devotion of the whole population, the more I feel inclined to say with General [Leonidas] Polk - "How can you subjugate such a people as this?" and even supposing that their extermination were a feasible plan, as some northerners have suggested, I never can believe that in the nineteenth century the civilised world will be condemned to witness the destruction of such a gallant race." Source: Col. Arthur Fremantle"Three Months in the Southern States."

Aragorn
Monday, May 22nd, 2006, 09:27 PM
Well, Iam a native Dutch and I do live in the Netherlands, but my real homeland is Germania; which is, in my eyes and my opinion an federation of Germanic states under German rule.

Veritas Æquitas
Monday, May 22nd, 2006, 11:46 PM
Canada is where my heart and soul is, and where my family poured their blood, sweat and tears to defend it, and help make it what it was intended to be since it's frontier days. Unfortunately, we have forsaken families like that for the sake of becoming a nation of refugees.

I feel the same way about Canada as I do for all Britannia and Australia. I love it all, and am so proud of them. France as well too, because it's an anscestral homeland.

Prometheus
Monday, May 22nd, 2006, 11:51 PM
My homeland reaches from the Maas to the Memel and from the Etsch to the Belt, it's Germany. I love my homeland and when I stay in foreign countries I miss it hardly, but when I come back I could jump for joy or kiss the ground like the pope does it :D

My homeland is in a worse constitution, but I'm not the kind of person who leave ill friends, I fight for their health!

Thats it. ;)

Thumelicus
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 07:51 AM
I was born among foreigners, in a different land than where my parents were from originally. I myself would rather not have a native country if the alternative was to desert my people in the midst of their greatest peril. I could simply say that my homeland is the future German Empire, but in all likelihood I will never live to see it. That doesn't matter to me- so long as it occurs somehow and that I play my small part in making it happen.

Cole Nidray
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 08:11 AM
No Homeland yet, I intend on making one somewhere though.

Theudiskaz
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 08:17 AM
I hardly feel at home in what America has become. I will reimmigrate to Europe as soon as I'm done with college. And I won't take no for an answer.:D Europe may be decadent, but not as much as America. I've had it with this country.

Enibas
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 08:29 AM
I feel my homeland is everywhere, where people speak german.

Aragorn
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 07:28 PM
I hardly feel at home in what America has become. I will reimmigrate to Europe as soon as I'm done with college. And I won't take no for an answer.:D Europe may be decadent, but not as much as America. I've had it with this country.



Not hestitate, and settle down in The Netherlands.:) :)

We sure can use some decent pure fresh blood.

óðinn
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 08:47 PM
Well it'd be either Ostrobothnia (Finland) or Norðland (all scandinavian/nordic countries). Since I'm a bit split I would'nt be able to choose either Finland or Sweden so it has to be Norðland which would include them both. I mean culturally, etc Finland, but ethnically, linguistically it is Sweden.

Thusnelda
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 01:08 PM
My home are the deep and dark forests of East Bavaria, the bavarian mountains around the Königssee (especially Mister "Watzmann" ;) )...as well as the wide deepths of Iceland, the lakes, the glaciers, the hotspots, the raw and natural coastlines. :)

Georgia
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 01:45 PM
thiedischer


I hardly feel at home in what America has become. I will reimmigrate to Europe as soon as I'm done with college. And I won't take no for an answer.:D Europe may be decadent, but not as much as America. I've had it with this country.


You are so right, thiedischer! If I would feel the way you do about the country where I live, I would leave as well.

Please, drop me a note when the time is at hand. I would be interested to what region you will try to 'reimmigrate':D . Never know, I may "run into you" over there.........

Georgia - NS = National Survivalist:) .

Hillbilly
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 01:47 PM
I want to add, that there is no real Translation for the german Word "Heimat"

Often tried, never achieved...

Georgia
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 01:55 PM
My home are the deep and dark forests of East Bavaria, the bavarian mountains around the Königssee

Hi Valkyrie.

http://www.schloesser.bayern.de/englisch/lakes/objects/koenigss.htm

Beautiful region. Been there many times. Even in the deep and dark forests ;) ...

Georgia, NS = National Survivalist:) .
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Georgia
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Skrewdriver-Chris


I want to add, that there is no real Translation for the german Word "Heimat"
Often tried, never achieved...


Than you kindly, Screwdriver-Christ. Perhaps you want to start "educating" more people on this "error" rather than just the Skadi forum. I am sure they would appreciate your knowledge on this subject. Here is one of the sites. For your convinience here is the e-mail address:

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BTW, this is only one of the many German-English translation sites that translate the Word Heimat for Homeland.

Georgia:)
NS = National Survivalist: I would do it myself, but since you seem to have so much knowledge about this word I leave it to you.

Allenson
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 02:38 PM
This can perhaps be a somewhat easy answer for many on the east side of the Atlantic but for us New Worlders on the west side it may not be so simple....

That being said, I feel fortunate as a Colonial, that I have a ready answer. To those who know me, it will come as no surprise that I consider the green hills of northern New England to be my homeland in general and the emerald of Vermont in particular.
My genes have been in this region for closing in on 400 years now--and while a mere blip in Old World time perspective, this is a hefty piece of history here in the New. My forebearers came here and carved this land as they saw fit--for better or for worse. I know where they are buried, I know what churches they attended, I know many of their roles in this land's conflicts going as far back as the wars with the native Indians and most interestingly to me those of the war that gave us independence. I know where their farmhouses were/are still--the hay fields that they mowed, the woodlands that they utilized for lumber and fuel and the stone walls that they built. I can find their names on the old town maps and they are often mentioned in the old town histories. The branches of my lineages have surely scattered across the continent since those bygone days but by luck and coincidence, my direct lines have stayed put and here I live still.

Thusnelda
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Hi Valkyrie.

http://www.schloesser.bayern.de/englisch/lakes/objects/koenigss.htm

Beautiful region. Been there many times. Even in the deep and dark forests ;) ...

Georgia, NS = National Survivalist:) .
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Huhu Georgia :)

Yes, I grew up in this region and I love to be there often.

http://www.haus-kunibert-hain.de/images/koenigssee.jpg
"Heaven is a place on earth" - or at least in Southeast-Germany. :D

Georgia
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Valkyrie


Huhu Georgia :)

Yes, I grew up in this region and I love to be there often.
"Heaven is a place on earth" - or at least in Southeast-Germany.



Beautiful picture.
I know exactly what you mean in your expression about your love for Southeast-Germany.

To me Georgia is "heaven on earth."

Aint' it something - I live in Southeast Georgia.

Georgia - NS = National Survivalist:)

Forgot to add that I was born and raised in South Germany.

Patrioten
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 03:19 PM
My homeland is Sweden. And even though i feel more and more alienated from the Swedish society of today it is still my "fosterland".

Jack
Thursday, May 25th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Everyone has a "region" which he or she considers his/her homeland.

What country do you consider your homeland ? Or your adopted homeland?

Please state how you feel about your homeland and why.

Georgia:)

Ok. Australia is my homeland. I feel proud - very proud. I love my country and I love my people. My family has been here for almost 200 years. Other than that - the British Isles. How do I feel about that? Depressed, actually. There's something profoundly wrong with half of London being brown and eating bangers and mash (any pommie here should know the term). Thank God the homeland of most of my blood is relatively clean.

Prince Eugen
Friday, May 26th, 2006, 08:11 PM
My homeland is Hellas!A nation who during the past was the Homelands of Warriors,Poets and Philosophers !Now i leave in a country that no one cares about anything!They don't care about glotious past or the future and the present of my Nation!So i stopped to care about my co-patriots because they deserve the sick and the decline enviroment they live!I care about my true Comrades and my family!
In a few words the situation in my homeland makes me depress!

Idun
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 06:34 AM
I´m born in Norrland,Sweden

http://www.polariseyewear.com/image/splash_left.jpg


But all the Scandinavian countries I see as my homeland,or all the germanics countries I see as my homeland. (North and west germanics,but not really French )

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 07:01 AM
My home is California and I love this place but not all the people who live there now. California has something for everyone and you can move from one climate and enviornment to another in a short time. The most beautiful place I have ever seen is the Yosemite Valley and it is almost heaven there in the summertime.

demdeutschenvolke
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 07:09 AM
One could argue that, depending on how you look at it, I have two homelands (if that's even possible). I'm an ethnic German born and raised in the USA, so in a very literal sense, it's my homeland. Although I don't always see eye-to-eye with the American approach to matters, I do (generally speaking) respect it. On the other hand, I am very in touch with my cultural heritage and often find myself feeling that my homeland is anywhere fellow ethnic Germans dwell.

Veritas Æquitas
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 08:26 AM
I´m born in Norrland,Sweden

But all the Scandinavian countries I see as my homeland,or all the germanics countries I see as my homeland. (perhaps not French

Hey, what's wrong with the French? :)

Southstar
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 09:15 AM
I was born and raised in South Africa. Though I sometimes feel a longing to leave this land of heat and hardship for the shaded woods wherein the spirits of my fathers dwell, I cannot. To me, this is Germania. I see Germania in my mother's blue eyes, my brothers blonde curls. When I stroll along the beach the winds speak to me, tales of conquest, of how my people fought and died for 400 years to secure my future, a future wich is now in doubt, a doubt brought upon by betrayal. I feel sad when I see the decline of my people, here we had heaven, but we were forced, by our brothers, to decline into the dark pit in wich Africa finds itself. Nevertheless, I love these blue skies, eternal plains, and will fight and die for them.

Ons vir jou, Suid-Afrika

Bridie
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 09:24 AM
My beloved Australia.... there could be no other....






I Love A Sunburnt Country


Written by Dorothea MacKellar (1908: written 1906)





http://gunneraustralia.com/uluru.jpg


The love of field and coppice,
Of green and shaded Lanes,
Of ordered woods and gardens,
Is running in your veins;
Strong love of grey-blue distance,
Brown streams and soft, dim skies -
I know but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.
http://gunneraustralia.com/bluemns.jpg
I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of drought and flooding rains,
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel sea,
Her beauty and her terror -
The wide brown land for me.
http://gunneraustralia.com/bluemountains.jpg
The tragic ring-barked forests
Stark white beneath the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon.
Green tangle of the brushes
Where lithe lianas coil,
An orchids deck the tree-tops
And ferns the crimson soil.
http://gunneraustralia.com/moonlight.jpg
Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When sick at heart around us
We see the cattle die -
But then the grey clouds gather
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady, soaking rain.
http://gunneraustralia.com/windmill.jpg
Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the Rainbow Gold,
For flood and fire and famine,
She pays us back threefold;
Over the thirsty paddocks,
Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze.
http://gunneraustralia.com/aussiebushfire.jpg
An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land -
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand -
Though Earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown Country
My homing thoughts will fly.








Although I have often rued the fact that Europoids ever left the Motherland in the first place, its too late now.... Australia is in my blood. This is my homeland. My love. :)

Southstar
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 09:36 AM
Hello, Have you ever wondered why South Africans and Australians never really see eye to eye, though we actually have a lot in common?

Idun
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 09:56 AM
Hey, what's wrong with the French? :)

Nothing really, I just don´t feel so conected with French, I think it´s language...

Aragorn
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 11:09 AM
Nothing really, I just don´t feel so conected with French, I think it´s language...

Besides, they are not as Germanic like Germans, Dutch-Flemish, Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Icelandics, Frisians.....

If France would show itself from a good side, and for example turn Elsass-Lothringen back to Germany, and Nord-pas-de Calais to Flanders, it would be the beginning....:fhdclap: :D

Veritas Æquitas
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 12:42 PM
Haha, Alles Gut.

I don't care a whole lot, I'm (English) Canadian. I don't know anything about France besides the fact some of my anscestors came from there. It'd be nice to see France give back some of it's land to Germania. Oh well, in the future perhaps. It's funny I should ask Idun that question, because my mother really doesn't like the French at all, and thinks that "they should all be shot". :-O :D
I guess I should be shocked and apaulled .. but I wasn't raised French. Quite the opposite.

Georgia
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 01:55 PM
One could argue that, depending on how you look at it, I have two homelands (if that's even possible). I'm an ethnic German born and raised in the USA, so in a very literal sense, it's my homeland. Although I don't always see eye-to-eye with the American approach to matters, I do (generally speaking) respect it. On the other hand, I am very in touch with my cultural heritage and often find myself feeling that my homeland is anywhere fellow ethnic Germans dwell.


Thank you for your post. It really got me to thinking.....I know what you are talking about, demdeutschenvolke. I think it is only natural to want to be around our own kind. But for me this does not necessarily mean that our own kind share the same birthland. I consider my own kind people with which I have more in common than not.

For example: I have the misfortune of living about 30 minutes away from a large military base. A large number of German women live around base, some even in our small town. Married to former U.S. soldiers, black and white, they usually settle near a major base for obvious reasons. They used to invite me to their German Kaffeklatsch. I never went. Except for gender, native language and birthland I have nothing in common with them. Just let me mention the words racial separation or talk about the German Reichsfahne that flies in our front yard..... Not long ago I met this young German women in her early twenties married to a former U.S. soldier. Our separation did not occur over racial separation, but our disagreement over the German Reichsfahne and the Third Reich.

On the other hand I visit and associate much with the women that are from this area. Most of them are of Irish, Scottish and English descent. German ancestry around here is not as common as in other places throughout the North American continent. I can talk to most of them about racial separation, about the German Reichsfahne, about truth and myth of not just their own history but also Germany's history. Our world view, though sometimes not the same in non-essentials, is the same when it comes to essential principles.

Georgia:)


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Jay Buckner

Bridie
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 01:59 PM
Hello, Have you ever wondered why South Africans and Australians never really see eye to eye, though we actually have a lot in common?

What do you mean we never really see eye to eye Southstar? What has your experience been?

I know many white South Africans, as Australia is a fairly common immigration destination for those wanting to get away from there now, and a few of them I count among my closest friends. They've never experienced any inter-personal adversity here due to being South African as far as I know.... and we see to eye to eye on many things. I find it easy to get where they're coming from on most things. You know, we have some common ground alright.

One thing most, if not all, Aussies find hard to relate to though is the constant fear of crime and violence that I've been told South Africans have to live with on a daily basis.... one of my friends, who's lived here in Australia for a few years now, says that she and her husband still can't bear the thought of their children sleeping in their own bedrooms at night, because they're used to the fear of being broken into and violence against children in Sth Africa, so they sleep with their kids in their beds still! Apparently blacks raping small children is very common over there now?

And I love Sth Africans' dark senses of humour!! I was chatting with 2 Sth Africans friends last Friday, and they were saying how in Australia its strange that everyone abides by the road rules in general (lol).... I said, "road rage is really bad here though".... to which one of my friends replied, "yes, but at least all you guys do is yell and swear and threaten! In Sth Africa if someone got road rage with you they'd throw petrol over you and set you alight!" (Big belly laughs ensued! ROFL)

And mostly in Australia, only farmers really handle guns.... one of my Sth African friends handled her first gun at the age of 4.... there's a big difference now! LOL

But anyway, I get what you mean.... Sth Africans and Australians are both far from the lands of our ancestors, where our roots lie.... and sometimes I feel the pull too, that you speak of.... yes, we have a lot in common.

demdeutschenvolke
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Thank you for your post. It really got me to thinking.....I know what you are talking about, demdeutschenvolke. I think it is only natural to want to be around our own kind. But for me this does not necessarily mean that our own kind share the same birthland. I consider my own kind people with which I have more in common than not.

For example: I have the misfortune of living about 30 minutes away from a large military base. A large number of German women live around base, some even in our small town. Married to former U.S. soldiers, black and white, they usually settle near a major base for obvious reasons. They used to invite me to their German Kaffeklatsch. I never went. Except for gender, native language and birthland I have nothing in common with them. Just let me mention the words racial separation or talk about the German Reichsfahne that flies in our front yard..... Not long ago I met this young German women in her early twenties married to a former U.S. soldier. Our separation did not occur over racial separation, but our disagreement over the German Reichsfahne and the Third Reich.

On the other hand I visit and associate much with the women that are from this area. Most of them are of Irish, Scottish and English descent. German ancestry around here is not as common as in other places throughout the North American continent. I can talk to most of them about racial separation, about the German Reichsfahne, about truth and myth of not just their own history but also Germany's history. Our world view, though sometimes not the same in non-essentials, is the same when it comes to essential principles.

Georgia:)


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"Victory is for those with the persistence and fortitude to resist the temptation to withdraw or whose resolve has been tempered, when conditions worsen and the cost rises. It is not for the weak hearted, nor those who are softened by the ease and comfort of a gilded cage, provided by the enemy at the cost of liberty." ---
Jay Buckner



I, too, understand exactly what you're saying. Perhaps the only difference is for me, being born in the States of German blood, I am separated enough so that it doesn't drive me insane upon coming across those like the young German women you spoke of. For ethnic German families like mine, who have been here for over one hundred years and retained at least some form of Deutschtum, it's easier to find those holding the same world view. I suppose this is how one could argue that you can find just as much German pride (if not more, at times) at ethnic German gatherings in North America as Germany. Haha-It's sad that I'm just realizing this, but you and have a good bit in common...you being born in Germany and finding a home in Georgia, while I was born in the Southern States and find a home among my fellow Germans/ethnic Germans. :D

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Southstar
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 06:51 PM
I'm glad you understood, I was afraid you might missinterpret my statement. I know many Safricans emmigrate to Australia, and I've heard it's quite a nice place and that they actually speak Afrikaans in places like Perth. I've never had a negative experience with anyone from your country, that's just the talk among people (especially rugby fans!), but I won't judge because of their opinions. I actually think we are in almost EXACTLY the same situation. We came, we saw, we conquered, and now we have to give it all back. It's always weird when I hear about people in other countries who don't use guns. I mean, we have 4 in our house, and we're not the exception or anything! Ja, crime is bad, but I personally don't have trouble with the natives, as we are learning to fight fire with fire! :sviking

Konrad
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 09:04 PM
It has now been over sex years as I left my homeland and live now in Germany (Nordrhein-Westfalen). It was my childsdream to live in germany.
It is a historical fact that my ancestors often moved to the east. In this way i followed the steps of my ancestors. But now them I'm setteled here, I still feel the urge to move more to the east. I dont think I ever will find a place where I do not feel that urge anymore.
I onmce read that this urge to wander is typical for the nordic character.
Anyway, what I want to say is that though i love my homeland verry much, I do not want to return there (except for a relativ short visit), but still I appreciate the region which have a little simelarity to my homeland, like where I live now.

Theudiskaz
Sunday, May 28th, 2006, 09:11 PM
I dont think I ever will find a place where I do not feel that urge anymore.
I onmce read that this urge to wander is typical for the nordic character.
Yes, I totally agree.This spirit of restlessness, a lack of satisfaction with one's situation, a longing for adventure and the unknown is to me a significant part of being Germanic and Nordic. Many have written about this aspect of our character. You could call it the pioneering spirit. Nordic man is above all an adventurer, a pioneer. We have always been like this. :thumbup

Sigurd Volsung
Monday, May 29th, 2006, 02:37 AM
My homeland is, and will forever be, England.

http://www.virgin-vacations.com/images/packages/england/countryside.jpg

From the white cliffs of Dover, to the tranquil scenes of the Lake District -it is my home, and I will not swap it for any other.

http://www.redwing-coaches.co.uk/graphics/painshill_view200.jpg

Although I have lived in a God-forsaken urban jungle for the past eighteen years of my life, it is the countryside in which I feel most at home. The rural hamlets and farmlands is something I connect to, just as my ancestors did, and have done, for many hundreds of years. I cannot explain its beauty as it overwhelms me greatly.

The meandering rivers, the whistlin' trees; the wheat and barley flowing, and the beautiful flowers growing - these are the sights I wish to see!

My love for the homeland's soil and the blood of my people will never cease; it will only grow to prosper, so that I can appreciate it more as each day passes.

"Be England what she will, with all her faults, she is my country still." - Charles Churchill

Bridie
Monday, May 29th, 2006, 03:28 AM
We came, we saw, we conquered, and now we have to give it all back. It's always weird when I hear about people in other countries who don't use guns. I mean, we have 4 in our house, and we're not the exception or anything! Ja, crime is bad, but I personally don't have trouble with the natives, as we are learning to fight fire with fire! :sviking
The big difference is that we Europoids are the vast majority here in Australia. The aboriginals only pose a threat in rural areas, and even then, its minor. I mostly just feel sorry for them.... I have a strange kind of respect and fondness for many of their traditional cultures. Its my belief that Aussie aborigines are by nature a peaceful and kind-hearted group of people, who are not big on conflict, but because of their ways of life, families etc becoming all but completely destroyed by white man, they have fallen from grace, so to speak. :(

The thing is that we don't have to fight with the natives here.... you may change your mind about the crime rate not bothering you though when (if you haven't already!) start a family. Things can look very different when its your kids that are potentially at risk.... this is what I've been told by my Sth African friends.

Many Sth Africans I know say when they first come over here that they didn't realise just how fearful and anxious their lives in Sth Africa were, (having to live with the constant threat of violence and hatred from the blacks,) until they moved overseas. I guess you are just get used to it?

Whatever the case, white Sth Africans have my full support. :) :thumbup

Ostpreusse
Thursday, June 22nd, 2006, 11:39 PM
The land of my Ancestors is Germany (Thüringen) and my Homeland (I'd rather say Heimat) is Ostpreußen - "the Land of dark forests and cristal lakes"...