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OMegasPan
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 04:20 AM
Is there a relation between the Black Hole and Entropy?


Entropy is what makes the order of things become lost.

Negative entropy is what in a way 'binds them together', and so we get order out of chaos, a motto of certain secret societies on planet earth..

A national socialist or any other totalitarian system, would naturally consider entropy a major enemy of the order that is wished to be established.

But the Black Hole's effects are in favor of entropy, or anti-entropy=order?

Do we know for sure?

Dr. Solar Wolff
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 07:34 AM
The short answer is YES, there is a relationship between enthropy and the Black Sun. Here are my views.

Entropy is an increasing state of randomness, of degeneration, of a system winding down, of decay and death. For instance, think of a new car. It took a great deal of energy and work to make each part and then put each part together in an intelligent way so that the total machine actually works. But as soon as the car is made, it starts falling apart, even if only on a microscopic level at first. It takes a great deal of care and energy to maintain a car--new parts, labor, etc. as we all know. But even if you put the car in the garage and never drove it, it would rust away, molecule by molecule, so that in 1000 years it would just be a pile of rust.

Viktor Schauberger saw entropy in terms of his implosion and explosion or centripital and centrifugal motion. For instance, implosion or centripital motion organizes, creates, builds while explosion/centrifugal motion disorganizes, destroys. Schauberger equates centripital motion with the creative force concering living things. Of course these are balanced forces but Schauberger says that for creation, or growth or evolution to take place, centripital force must dominate. Schauberger also makes an interesting connection between cold and negative entropy or centripital motion. He says this type of motion cools.

A black hole sucks in everything, or as I believe, everything is pushed into a black hole. Either way, with all this energy of every kind and every kind of matter spiraling into a black hole, something has to happen. Something has to come out. In fact, we know that a black hole is a huge generator of every sort of energy, electromagnetic, atomic and I believe aether/Virl/Zero Point energy (whatever you want to call it). A black hole is surrounded by all this energy and we have measured some of it. In terms of gravity, a black hole sets the limits and speed of every star orbiting it even though its gravitic effects don't extend to its outer edges. For this to happen, something else, some other energy is in evidence. This must be aether/Vril. I believe that each black hole, each Black Sun is responsible for generating this aether energy which is the fundamental basis of energy and matter as we know it. In other words, aether physics is the primary physics while secondary physics is the physics we all studied in school. This lack of understanding is why we are as of yet unable to come up with a real Unified Field Theory. I believe this but these are not my original ideas.

Karl Schappeller invented his own terminology for Primary Physics and like Schauberger who did the same, suffered a lack of understanding for it. For Schauberger we have Callum Coats to interpet it for us and for Schappeller we have first Cyril Davson who studied with him before the War and Michael Watson who is an English physicist and was a friend to Davson as a boy.

Returning to the Black Sun, we have two poles, two vortices, energy & matter being sucked in and energy going out just as we have with a bar magnet, the earth, and the sun. These things are absorbing aether energy. Accellerated aether/Virl, that is aether which is moving, has another name, gravity. Gravity is a push not a pull. Matter, like the earth, sun, or Black Sun absorbes aether and re-radiates it or convertes it into matter. Dr. Hans Neiper calculated that the earth absorbes approximately 4% of the aether it receives. This 4% difference between the center of the earth and the surface is the accelleration we know as gravity.

Returning again to the Black Sun, this is evidently a cold star. Cold has a special quality. In cold matter the molecules and atoms move less rapidly. There is less randomness. In other words a cold body displays negative entropy as compared to a hot body. At the extreme is absolute zero. Absolute Zero has consequences for energy.

At absolute zero, an electric charge given to an iron ring, for instance, will travel around and around that ring forever unless lost to grounding or other leakage. Space is mostly at absolute zero. Space is like a huge battery. Energy, aether/vril energy in space at absolute zero is never lost or discharged. Since this type of energy is closely connected to matter and can turn into matter, there are really only two things in space. Primary energy and primary matter. Schappeller represented these things with code-words of "oxygen" and "hydrogen" but we call them perhaps dark energy and dark matter in the scientific world.

So cold causes energy to be stored. Cold organizes matter. Cold is negative enthropy. Absolute zero cold is actually something more. Physcist Michael Watson calls it Reverse Therodynamics and contrasts it to the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Look up into the night sky. Almost everything you see which is not a star or a planet, all the dark area, is a vast super-cold battery full of energy.

The Black Sun acts on this energy by generating it and organizing it through the pressure of generation--that is gravity. Cold and gravity are the organizing forces of the black hole, the Black Sun. This energy is the energy of life, evolution, and of secondary physics. Of all the forces in nature, the Black Sun is the most powerful. It employs all the chemical and physical laws and forces at once in its workings. It organizes the universe within its sphere of influence using this negative entropy or Reverse Thermodynamic Principle.

OmegsPlan, I know this all sounds crazy. This is what I first thought too. I read along and could only accept a little bit of the story without throwing up my hands. But then I returned to it, again and again, each time understanding a little more. I still don't understand everything and it has taken me 15 years since some engineer with a master's degree wrote in a magazine for other EEs that "Gravity is a Push". Well, I rejected that right away. All I ask is that you give this a chance and just a little thought. If you do you will return again and again.

OMegasPan
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Most interesting post Dr. Wolf. I have to thank you since you saved me hours of searching and reading on my own about the issue.


Let me elaborate some of my views as well:

We assume that a Black Hole is producing the aethyr/Vril energy? On the other hand this energy is supposed to exist in/behind everything in the Universe, right?

So we should assume that black holes in the center of galaxies create this aethyr/vril energy and thus create life in planets of their galaxy.

Another issue would be why are these energy producing black holes/suns being formed in the first place. And it is known that they suck matter and energy inside them. We should accept that indeed they suck matter and energy but also project life giving force and gravitational forces?

And of course there is the matter of where do these holes lead, another time-another place perhaps?

..to be continued..

OMegasPan
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 05:52 PM
So, supposing the black hole is a galaxy's life giving force, producing all that is beneficial to the creation of life, how is the fact that it is actually a massive hole, that DEVOURS everything, agreeing with the beneficial character of the black sun, we accepted a few lines above?

So we should assume the Black Hole posseses some kind of entelechy (εντελέχεια). I hope you know what this word means, it means something which in itself contains the reasons/causes/functions of its own end.

The Human, is a being in which entelechy is present. Man carries with him his own self-destruction...untill he decides to change that, but this is another issue..

So the black hole, could be actually something that unravels, spreads life, and devours everything that has been unraveled back inside....into what is unknown to man yet...or not? Would this be the playback if we could videotape a black hole forming a galaxy and then devouring it, in a fast forward of some trillions years?

TeutonicMensch
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 11:32 PM
I think one of the major problems for people when considering a subject such as this, is that they always assume there is something 'beyond'. Thusly, they always ask where everything being sucked into the Black Sun goes, what it becomes. They wonder where behind, or within, where beyond it, it goes to.

When considering this, one should take a gander at the other side of the coin. Where, when one considers a regular sun, does all of the matter needed to fuel, its fusion come from? Where is the beyond that it draws from? Would it not come from the center, and in the explosive force of its being, be expelled outwards?

I've often considered a rather scientifically Immature view that perhaps Black Holes/Sun, are linked with Fusion Suns. One draws in, inhales, the others having it within then exhales, and sends it all outwards explosively.

I can't say that I have much understanding or schooling in this area, but all the same, I felt I would say my bit.

Thank you for reading
-James

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 06:39 AM
Most interesting post Dr. Wolf. I have to thank you since you saved me hours of searching and reading on my own about the issue.


Let me elaborate some of my views as well:

We assume that a Black Hole is producing the aethyr/Vril energy? On the other hand this energy is supposed to exist in/behind everything in the Universe, right?

So we should assume that black holes in the center of galaxies create this aethyr/vril energy and thus create life in planets of their galaxy.

Another issue would be why are these energy producing black holes/suns being formed in the first place. And it is known that they suck matter and energy inside them. We should accept that indeed they suck matter and energy but also project life giving force and gravitational forces?

And of course there is the matter of where do these holes lead, another time-another place perhaps?

..to be continued..

OMegasPan,

I am delighted that you take an interest in this subject. Please forgive me for not addressing your question in more detail in my answer. It is a great question.

The black hole is a vortex like every other vortex. A bar magnet is also a vortex, as is the magnetic field of the earth. Both have poles. Both have an "equator" or sorts inbetween the poles. Energy comes spiraling in (causing the Northern Lights) and enters the earth just as energy enters a bar magnet as evidenced by lines of force. Let's look at the simpler bar magnet for a moment.

Energy enters the bar magnet from the poles. What happens now? The energy as to go somewhere otherwise a bar magnet would keep drawing in energy until it exploded. In fact, it is re-radiated back out. This happens right in the center at a molecular line in which the positive side turns to the negative side. This line is called a Bloch Wall. Every vortex has this turning point but I think only the magnet has it named and described as in a Bloch Wall. Here, energy is radiated out at right angles to the line of the bar magnet. In other words, radiation radiates at a right angle from the magnetic field. This must be radio frequency energy (electromagnetic energy) although I have not heard it exactly so described.

For the earth, energy enters at the poles and likewise radiates out at the equator. How do we know this is true? Where does the earth move? At the north and south poles, the earth is stationary. At the equator, the earth moves at 1000 miles per hour. This motion is part of the energy release.

Schauberger developed a flying saucer using only his vortex priniciple. It was not energized by air as always said but on aether energy. The matter, air, follows the path of the energy involved and we see the matter (air). A Schauberger vortex could be thought of as a tornado on top of another tornado with the thinnest parts touching. But, in the Schauberger vortex only one half is implosion. At the thinnest point of the double tornado, inward motion stops momentarily and turns to outer motion. (Centripital motion turns to centrifual motion.) It is at this spot, just like the Bloch Wall, that energy is released. This energy even mystified Schauberger.

The Schauberger flying saucer design is a little more complicated in that the point at which centripital motion turns to centrifual motion is the spot on the aircraft where the air is ejected but if you spend some time with this design you can see what is going on.

With a black hole, we see half of the vortex just like we do with a tornado or a hurricane. Nevertheless, energy coming in is radiated out at the equator and at right angles. Some modern drawings of a black hole actually show this energy radiation. In fact, it radiates x-rays, gamma rays, a whole electromagnetic spectrum, and a magnetic field besides the aether energy I suspect.

A black hole sucks in the available energy in it's sphere of influence and then goes dormant. But, during its lifetime, it has radiated out enough energy (this could also be considered gravity) to both generate matter and control matter of its star field. New research indicates the black hole influences stars by setting their orbital velocity even though they are theoritically too far away from the direct gravitic influence of the black hole at the center. This can only be a function of aether physics.

Let's return to a bar magnet for a moment. I believe matter is a gravity shield. Matter absorbs aether and re-radiates it (as in the German word Bremsestrahlen--re-radiation of aether/electromagnetic energy and finally just heat--this heat heats the earth's core). But a small percentage is actually turned into matter itself. Yes, this means that our earth is always getting bigger. (How else can Wagnerian Plate Techtonics be explained when adduction is greater than subduction.)

Back to the bar magnet. All free energy devices seem to have a permanent magnet as a component--why? It is because a magnet is an aether portal. Aether finds a weak spot in magnet and goes down faster. A magnet is like a drain on a bathtub for aether energy. Free energy devices sometimes work (google "Hans Coler Device" for instance). They do so not because the violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics, but because they draw upon an unknown energy source. The pickup point on the bar magnet drawing off this energy is the very center of the bar (again, see the Hans Coler device).

Of course, electromagnetics and aether are different energies but the principle of the vortex is the same and the entry and output points of the vortex are the same for both types of energy.

Matter itself can re-radiate aether. Our sun does so. So does our earth to a smaller extent. But our earth absorbes more than it re-radiates. I guess every speck of matter re-radiates to some small extent.

What re-radiation means is, if you believe in the Black Sun in a religous way, is that our sun is a minor god, the earth is an even more minor god and so on with the Black Sun at the top, the organizing (negative enthropy fountainhead).

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, May 21st, 2006, 06:48 AM
The issue of the origin of the black hole may be more complicated. Evidently, there are black holes which are not centers of gallaxies. And there are rumors of artificial black holes being made by black science. These attemps are usually linked to time experimentation.

If all matter is an aether sink, then the acceleration of gravity is caused by matter shielding being more effective between any to bits of matter. This is because the pressure between them would be proportional to their mass and inversly proportional to the square of their distance (just as Newton said). In other words, they would be pushed together. A gravity sink to the max. is a black hole.

Also, I believe that the difference between matter and aether/Vril is only a slight sort of adjustment. I don't really know what this is but most of the universe is dark matter and filled with dark energy (what modern physicists call aether/Vril just as anthropologists call race "a population"). There is some sort of relationship between these two, just as Karl Schappeller said.

OMegasPan
Monday, May 22nd, 2006, 11:34 PM
We have to accept that each galaxy is in itself a conscious organism, since (conscious) life is formed.

Could we then, in a cresendo of poetic thinking claim that the Black Hole, a center of entropy, since inside it matter and energies collide in unknown ways to us, is simultaneously the source of order, since it is the material/energy/gravitational creator of its galaxy, its galaxy planets and their rotations and the forms of life that exist in the galaxy's planets?

Dr. Solar Wolff
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 05:51 AM
We have to accept that each galaxy is in itself a conscious organism, since (conscious) life is formed.

Could we then, in a cresendo of poetic thinking claim that the Black Hole, a center of entropy, since inside it matter and energies collide in unknown ways to us, is simultaneously the source of order, since it is the material/energy/gravitational creator of its galaxy, its galaxy planets and their rotations and the forms of life that exist in the galaxy's planets?


Yes, I think so. It can be seen how the next step in this logical line of thought proposes the Black Sun as god itself. One Odinist I know draws parallels between the Black Sun and Odin (one eye, runes as tools managing states of vibration thus a link between energy and matter). The Wewelsburg BS is twelve Sig Runes. I am not a religous person so this aspect I will leave to those who know it better.

CountBloodSpawn
Tuesday, May 23rd, 2006, 05:30 PM
Yes, I think so. It can be seen how the next step in this logical line of thought proposes the Black Sun as god itself. One Odinist I know draws parallels between the Black Sun and Odin (one eye, runes as tools managing states of vibration thus a link between energy and matter). The Wewelsburg BS is twelve Sig Runes. I am not a religous person so this aspect I will leave to those who know it better.

indeed this is true, the very cosmic/multipersonality Odin can be associated with the magickal/ether energy of the Black Sun

fms panzerfaust
Monday, June 5th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Very interesting. The problem is that science dont take the acausal into consideration, only cause-and-effect is concerned. Something happens because another thing happened.
The soul, for example, putrefy the same as the physical body. The physical body returns to matter. The same happens with the soul, that returns to the aether. But science dont put this into consideration, because for most of these modern scientists the soul is just a fancy for religious persons. Aether is not matter, and it's only called "dark matter" because scientists can't explain it. All that is beyond common scientific knowledge is called dark, obscure, because was not aprehended through scientific cause-and-effect means.
Also the eletromagnetic spectrum can be more wide than what is generally known, with vibrations up and down the scale that humans can't recognize.
It's easy to imagine the center of the galaxy being a black hole, but not all galaxies are spiral. How to explain some galaxies that have a homogeneous distribution of stars in it's composition and not a spiral form? And the space between the galaxies, the aether without stars?

Dr. Solar Wolff
Friday, November 3rd, 2006, 06:48 AM
Very interesting. The problem is that science dont take the acausal into consideration, only cause-and-effect is concerned. Something happens because another thing happened.
The soul, for example, putrefy the same as the physical body. The physical body returns to matter. The same happens with the soul, that returns to the aether. But science dont put this into consideration, because for most of these modern scientists the soul is just a fancy for religious persons. Aether is not matter, and it's only called "dark matter" because scientists can't explain it. All that is beyond common scientific knowledge is called dark, obscure, because was not aprehended through scientific cause-and-effect means.
Also the eletromagnetic spectrum can be more wide than what is generally known, with vibrations up and down the scale that humans can't recognize.
It's easy to imagine the center of the galaxy being a black hole, but not all galaxies are spiral. How to explain some galaxies that have a homogeneous distribution of stars in it's composition and not a spiral form? And the space between the galaxies, the aether without stars?

I wish I had all the answers. Perhaps non-spiral gallaxies once were spiral and once had active black holes which are now dormant. As for aether without stars, I don't think it exists. In my view, the space between gallaxies would be much poorer in aether. Therefore, gravity might not exist between gallaxies (in my view). I don't think aether is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum but there is a relationship---again which I understand poorly. I do know that the poles of a magnet are the most easily penetrated objects composed of matter. In other words, a permanent magnet functions like a bathtub drain does of water. It must have to do with crystal allignment of molecules within the magnet and their being lined up.