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Cnooc
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 03:56 AM
Due to the declining population in South Korea, many Koreans have resorted to "importing" brides from SE Asian countries, particularly Vietnam and Phillipines. The North Korean General criticizes South Korea's multi-racialist policies. Quite conservative, for a communist nation.


Two Koreas' Top Brass Resort to Racist Mudslinging Inter-Korean Military Talks Stall Over Maritime Border No Progress on First Day of Inter-Korean Top Brass Meet Talks Between Generals From Both Koreas Flop The second day of talks between North and South Korean generals on Wednesday got off on the wrong foot when delegates stooped to mudslinging over the racial purity of Korea. The debate erupted in small talk between the two delegation leaders ahead of discussions that failed to agree on the re-alignment of the maritime border. The North's delegation leader Maj. Gen. Kim Yong-chul started off an unfortunate thread by quipping, "Since the climate in the South is warmer, the farmers must be hard at work." His South Korean counterpart Maj. Gen. Han Min-gu of the South replied, "The population of the farming communities is actually falling, and many bachelors from such areas marry women from Mongolia, Vietnam and the Philippines." Kim reportedly grimaced and snapped, “Our nation has always considered its pure lineage to be of great importance -- I am concerned that our singularity will disappear.” Instead of contradicting him, the South Korean delegation said such dilution of the bloodline was “but a drop of ink in the Han River,” adding this would cause no problems “if we all live together." But this failed to mollify the North Korean. "Since time immemorial, our nation has been a land of abundant beauty. Not even one drop of ink must be allowed to fall into the Han River,” Kim thundered. "Our history shows that we were able to maintain the purity of the Korean race even while living together with the Jurchen and the Manchurians of the region," Han countered. "That may be true,” Kim pressed on, “but from Old Chosun” -- the earliest Korean kingdom that ended in 108 BC and spanned from western Manchuria through the northwestern regions of the Korean Peninsula and according to legend started in 2333 BC ? “through the Middle Ages and the modern era, it is undeniable that we existed as one unified race."

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200605/200605170016.html





another article found from a North Korea Newspaper: The Worker's Daily: translated from Korean by (R. J. Koehler)
Recently, in South Korea, a strange game pursuing the weakening of the fundamental character of our race and making society “multiethnic and multiracial” is unfolding. Those responsible for this commotion are spreading confounding rumors like South Korea is a “multiracial area” mixed with the blood of Americans and several other races, how we must “overcome closed ethnic nationalism,” and we must embrace “the inclusiveness and openness of a multiethnic nation” like the United States. The words themselves take a knife to the feeling of our people, but even more serious is that this anti-national theory of “multiethnic, multiracial society” has already gone beyond the stage of discussion. Already, they’ve decided that from 2009, content related to “multiracial, multiethnic culture” would be included in elementary, middle and high school textbooks that have until now stressed that Koreans are the “descendents of Dangun,” “of one blood line” and “one race,” and to change the terms “families of international marriage” and “families of foreign laborers” to “multicultural families.” This is an outrage that makes it impossible to repress the rage of the people/race. To start from the conclusion, the argument for “multiethnic, multiracial society” cried for by pro-American flunkeyists in South Korea is an unpardonable argument to obliterate the race by denying the homogeneity of the Korean race and to make an immigrant society out of South Korea, to make it a hodgepodge, to Americanize it. The race (ethnic group) is a social unit of ethnic components formed historically and a community sharing the same fate, and said race exists because it has a character that distinguishes it from other races. Ethnic identity becomes an important weapon in personal and social development. Because of this, all races value their uniqueness and highlight their excellence, and by doing so give strength to awakening and unifying the components of the race. Today, with the wave of “globalization” inundating the world, nations have confronted it and insisted on their ethnic character and built walls to protect it; there is not one nation or race that has denied itself. In a reality where domination and colonialism threatens the fates of weaker races, to deny the the uniqueness and excellence of our homogenous race is an act of treason preaching the spiritual disarmament of the race. The pro-American traitors singing the arguments of “multiethnic, multiracial society” have not even a basic understanding of the race’s point of view or the historical development of society and are silly asses without even the slightest ethnic spirit. Homogeneity, which no other race in the world has, is the pride of our race and becomes the source of the unity needed in the struggle for eternal development and prosperity. Because the homogeneity of the race is so precious, our people have sacrificed blood and lives to walk the long and difficult path of reunification, and now we are cultivating the June 15 era of reunification with all our patriotic fervor. If we cannot save the homogeneity of the race, we cannot protect the fate of either the race of the individual before American schemes for domination, nor can we block the schemes of the Japanese reactionaries to reinvade based on claims of sovereignty over the Dokdo islets. The anti-national character of the arguments for “multiethnic, multiracial society” is that it denies the race itself and entrusts the nation and race to the imperialists. When people are calling for the entire people to unite their strength and reunify the Fatherland and raise up the majesty of the homogenous race, it’s a serious problem that there arguments to deny the race and obliterate the race have appeared in South Korea. Now is the era of independent unification to end 60 years of division between North and South and to establish the structural homogeneity of the race, and the trend of this age is “to handle things within the race” (uri minjok-ggiri). The argument for a “multiethnic, multiracial society” is a poison that weakens the basic ideology of this era and is anti-reunification logic. Anti-national arguments running counter to the direction of the people in South Korea is clearly the result of criminal schemes by pro-American groups, including the Grand National Party, and behind-the-scenes control by the United States to make the bloodlines of North and South different, block the June 15 era of reunification and make permanent the division of the Korean race. The issue of mixed-race people being raised in South Korea is completely a product of U.S. military occupation of South Korea. How spiritless these fellows must be that not only do they not raise up the value of having the U.S. military withdraw to bring an end to this tragic reality, but instead are trying to make the problem part of society. That arguments for a “multiethnic, multiracial society,” which make it impossible to repress ones racial shame and rage, are openly going around South Korea and there are moves to make them a reality shows how dangerous the criminal schemes of the United States to make the world unipolar are. All sectors of the South Korean people must boldly reject the anti-national schemes of the flunkeyist traitors to toss aside our identity and racial character and even sully the bloodlines of our race and obliterate it. They must also raise up the values of putting the Korean race first and settling everything within our race and actively stand up in the patriotic struggle to protect the Korean race and bring about reunification. Oh, and the Red Sox suck.

Ćmeric
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 04:41 AM
Why are they importing Brides? Is there a shortage of women, perhaps from selective sex abortion or is that Korean women are not interested in marriage?

Cnooc
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 05:14 AM
^the latter. although, korea does have a gender imbalance ration, it is not nearly as huge as china's. like in NW Europeans countries, South Korea has has a high number career women who are not interested in marriage. feminism prevails among the urban classes, and in korea it is actually considered "sexist" for a man to give up a bus seat for a woman. thus many korean men have come to look for brides in other country, in countries like vietnam, the women are considered more "tradtional."

below is a link to a vietnamese article on a korean newspaper disgracing vietnamese women:
http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/?catid=1&newsid=14900

it is also the same deal in Taiwan, one in seven marriages is a mixed marriage.

fms panzerfaust
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 07:10 AM
See such irony...just the communist state of North Korea is more close to his bloodline.

Graf Spee
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 10:44 AM
Actually is the belive that ones own race or nation is superior to the others very common in East-Asia (China, Korea, Japan etc.). And that never changed not even in the so-called communist countries. For example the PR China even under Mao was very nationalistic (he kicked out the foreigners and colonists) and racistic.
Only in their attitude towards foreigners differ the countries. The chinese always assimilated other people. Their racial features are dominant when they mix with others (the only exception are the blacks wich the chinese regard as the most primitive people on this planet) combined with their highly developed and attractive culture they were able to expand that way peacefully.

On the other side there are the smaller nations like Japan and Korea wich were always afraid to loose their indentity and tried to preserve the purity of their race. So even in South- Korea today it is very very unusual if a Korean marries a foreigner. In Japan it's mostly ok if the foreign partner is white- they have very "western" opinions in that field. But on the other hand they allow an immigration rate of around 5 (!) people a year.

There is a common saying in Asia wich expresses their point of view towards other races very good: "When god created man, he took the whites to early out of the oven. Thats why they still are so white. The asians he took at the right moment so they are golden. And the blacks he forgot at all so they are....";)

Agrippa
Friday, May 19th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Its interesting how they try to indoctrinate the East Asians with multiculturalism and -ethnic ideology too, well, they will have more problems with them and to use the Holocaust will not be as easy as in Europe ;)

But interesting to see that they still have a certain consciousness and if Liberalcapitalism would fail, they have a shorter way to go back to normality I guess.
Concerning the social problems, well, that are the diseases of Liberalcapitalism which infect all nations which dont use measures against it. From what I saw, North Koreans being really very interesting and collective oriented people with a high moral, but unfortunately a certain bitterness in life and partly being abused by their own system.

Cole Nidray
Friday, June 2nd, 2006, 03:19 PM
(Full Embodiment of National Independence - from Guiding Light General Kim Jong Il, Foreign languages Publishing House, Pyongyang, DPRK, 1997)

‘The following happened when Kim Jong Il was a student at Kim Il Sung University, One autumn day in 1960, during a lecture on Korean history, there was an argument on whether or not Koreans overseas could be considered a part of the Korean nation, since the Marxist-Leninist classics said that only when the foregoing conditions - common language, territory, economic life and psychology manifested in culture - were met could the people constitute a nation.

‘ In those days, scholars who dogmatically accepted the existing theories held that the Korean nation had been formed either in the 18th century when Korea was in the initial stage of capitalist development or in the period of Japanese imperialist colonial rule or even after liberation on August 15, 1945. Kim Jong Il criticized their dogmatic view based on the Marxist-Leninist Classics and said that the basic indexes of a nation are homogeneity of bloodline, a common language and a common territory; in particular, that bloodline and language are the most important in defining a nation, and that a nation is a solid group of people who are united with homogeneity of bloodline, language and territory.

‘He went on to say that Korean nation has long lived in one territory, inheriting the same bloodline and speaking the same language, and it is a nation with a history of 5,000 years and with a splendid culture, and that expatriates, too, belong to Korean nation. A nation is a cohesive group of people that was formed historically and the largest unit of social life. A nation is not formed or broken up easily by a change in the social system. The formation of a nation conditions the appearance of social classes and strata. Even in a classless society the nation still exists. If one's bloodline and language are same, one belongs to one and the same nation, even though one's ideology, ideals and territory are different. This is his outlook on the nation.

‘Our nation is a homogeneous nation descended from Tangun that has inherited only one bloodline for 5,000 years. Such a phenomenon is rare in the world. Homogeneity of bloodline is the most important characteristic of a nation. If we regard a common economic life as the main mark of a nation as held by previous theories, our fellow countrymen who live under the different economic systems of north and south Korea should be divided into a "bourgeois nation" and a "socialist nation", and several million Korean expatriates could not be regarded as part of our nation. Viewed from this angle, Kim Jong Il is the benefactor who has identified all the people in the north and south and the several million expatriates as belonging to one and the same nation. Language is another important factor defining a nation. Of the several factors defining a nation, territory and culture may be altered, but the homogeneity of bloodline and a common language cannot be changed. Since the people of north and south Korea have inherited the same bloodline and speak the same language, even though they have lived in different territories and under different economic conditions for more than 50 years since the country's division, they have a feeling of affinity and friendship. A common territory is not the same as the territory ruled by State power.

‘The territorial definition of a nation means the land where fellow countrymen of the same bloodline and speaking one language have lived their lives from generation to generation. The territory of a national community might be occupied by foreign forces, but it cannot be lost; even a subject nation cannot abandon the land where their forefathers have lived.

‘The main territory of Koreans is the land of 3,000 ri (One ri is 400 metres) where they have lived for 5,000 years. (5,000-ri means the total length of Korea's territory.) This land remained our nation's home in the 41-year period of Japanese colonial rule and cannot be land owned by Americans because they have occupied the southern part of our country for half a century. It is our nation's living space and nest today and will be forever in the future as in the past.

‘A common culture needs to be viewed by taking bloodline and language as the common features. This is because the character, mentality and consciousness of a nation are unthinkable apart from communities based on blood and language.

‘As seen above, Kim Jong Il's definition of a nation based on one's blood and language is correct and scientific. Kim Jong Il gave a wise answer to the question of our nation's formation. Criticizing the dogmatic view which fixed the time of the formation of our nation to the development of capitalism, he said: "Our people is a homogeneous nation who have inherited one bloodline, language and culture in one territory from olden times, and it is a wise nation with 5,000 years of history, a brilliant culture and splendid traditions." The question of a nation's founding is a basic one for the theory of the nation and is the starting point to systematize a nation's history.

‘The Korean nation was not formed in modern society in the course of capitalist development. Our compatriots long lived in one territory having one blood, language and culture, and in the course of history they became a single nation. The beginnings of the nation's formation can be seen in clan society. With the emergence of the state, the clan became a special group settling in a certain region. In due course, this developed into a nation. This is a brief summary of his view on the formation of our nation. His Juche-oriented view of the features of our nation and of its formation presents a compass for people who were in the past obsessed with flunkyism and dogmatism to use their own brains and think independently about national questions.’

János Hunyadi
Saturday, June 3rd, 2006, 07:40 PM
See such irony...just the communist state of North Korea is more close to his bloodline.

North Korea is widely regarded as the most ethnically and racially homogeneous nation in the world.

Agrippa
Saturday, June 3rd, 2006, 07:55 PM
If you think collectivist-group oriented, its in fact irrational to think not of race or not considering positive standards and homogeneity of a given population. In fact, that was a Marxist mistake, caused mainly because of faulty Jewish thinking, based on their own problems with the topic of race and ethnicity in a society which base was foreign ethnoculturally to them.
From that all the false views of Communists on race and folk came up. But finally, that was from the beginning false and was partly even based on old milieu theories and the idiocy of Lamarckism. For a more rational individual with better knowledge, Communist or not, race and ethnicity must be a very important factor for the make up of a society - even more so for a true community.

The current systems in China and North Korea being no longer Communist in the usual sense, not just because of the implementation of some Capitalist mechanisms. Especially not comparable in any way to Western Neo-Marxists which are themselves closer to Individualism and certain forms of Liberalism.

fms panzerfaust
Saturday, June 3rd, 2006, 09:37 PM
Both communism and liberalism are leftist doctrines, and both are against white preservation.

Agrippa
Saturday, June 3rd, 2006, 09:48 PM
Both communism and liberalism are leftist doctrines, and both are against white preservation.

I wouldnt call both Leftist but egalitarian - with different degrees of egalitarianism depending on the exact doctrines. But in both cases it depends on the concrete political agenda of a given movement, leadership, system. Some "Communist states" did more for European racial preservation and development than so called conservative ones. Usually its better to look at the details - but Liberalism and Communism as standard ideologies being both destructive for Europeans and can be never a true and lasting alternative.