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QuietWind
Friday, May 12th, 2006, 06:56 PM
'Curvy' women likely to live longer

VOLUPTUOUS women are healthier than their waif-like counterparts, scientific research said today.
A curvaceous, pear shape means a woman is more likely to have stores of adiponectin, a protein hormone which has anti-inflammatory effects and is associated with reduced risk of heart attacks.

Danish scientists found the ideal measurements for a woman are at least size 14 with hips of 40 inches or more.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/s/161/161202_curvy_women_likely_to_live_longer .html



Curvy women rejoice! New research is showing that fat carried on the legs, hips and buttocks may actually protect against heart disease and diabetes. Two separate Danish studies have found that hip fat contains adiponectin, a beneficial anti-inflammatory protein hormone that prevents arteries swelling up and becoming blocked.

women with the biggest hips with a traditional hourglass or pear shaped figure had an 87 percent reduction in deaths, an 86 percent reduction in coronary heart disease and a 46 percent reduction in cardiovascular disease. The same benefits did not extend to women with small hips. The Danish scientists found the ideal measurements for women were at least size 14, with hips of 40 inches or more.

http://www.uterus1.com/news/uterusmainstory.cfm/66/1

QuietWind
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 05:36 AM
I decided to look for a size 14 model to add to this article above, and I came across this interesting article:

http://i.ivillage.com/marieclaire/mind/health/Fat_Sexy/Article_Intro.gif


Does your attitude about your body influence the way other people see you?
We photographed a gorgeous, size-14 model in a neutral pose and made the unretouched photos into two mobile billboards. Then we gave each billboard a vastly different message: one confident ("I think I'm sexy. Do you?"), one unsure ("I think I'm fat. Do you?"). We asked everyone who saw these billboards to visit MarieClaire.com and tell us what they thought. Here's how 4,000 people reacted.

Read the article to find out how people reacted to the two billboards. ;)
http://magazines.ivillage.com/marieclaire/mind/health/articles/0,,434735_620890,00.html

Frans_Jozef
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 08:39 AM
Curvy girls have higher IQs

A US sociologist has confirmed that women with big breasts are brainier than their flat-chested counterparts


Sociologist Dr Yvonne Rossdale from Chicago University in the USA has confirmed that women with big breasts are brainier than their flat chested counterparts.


More than 1,200 women in the USA took an IQ test and their score was recorded along with their bra size.


Those who wore a D cup scored an average of 10 points more than those who wore an A or B cup.


Women who took a C cup totted up an extra three or four points over their A or B cup colleagues.


Dr Rossdale said that the notion that women with large chests are not as clever probably stems from the behaviour of men, who may simply pay less attention to what a curvier girl says whenever she speaks.


"He'll remember her as sexy but stupid", said Dr Rossdale, "because he will not remember a single word she's said."


http://www.menshealth.co.uk/news/story.phtml?id=1744

QuietWind
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 04:05 PM
I wonder if they took into account those who have implants or not?


Here is the breakdown for percentages by bra sizes for women. I wonder how the bra size- IQ correlation relates to in numbers. For example, do A and B cups tend to have avergae IQs, and then scores go up from there?


The average bust line for American women is 35.9 inches (91.2 cm). The typical bra size is 34B, with the proportions of women's cup sizes breaks down to the following: A-15%, B-44%, C-28%, D-10%, while the remaining 3% are AA, AAA, DD and beyond.

Source (http://www.saviodsilva.net/r/ss80.htm)

Ahren_
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 04:47 PM
I'm guessing that the heavier women were more likely to have eaten something before the tests. ;)

QuietWind
Saturday, May 13th, 2006, 06:16 PM
I'm guessing that the heavier women were more likely to have eaten something before the tests. ;)

Before which tests?
The IQ tests? The protein hormone tests?



Why?
Because heavier women eat more? Because heavier women are more likely to eat before a test?



And the logic is?
Eating before a test improves test performance on IQ tests? Eating before a protien hormone analysis will cause an increase in the measured hormone?


From my understanding, heavier women do not eat more, they are heavy for a variety of reasons: some genetic, some resulting from what they eat, not necessarily how much they eat, some from lower metabolism and body storage due to excessive dieting, etc. Do you have information which says differently? What information do you have that being heavy makes a woman more likely to eat prior to a test?

The IQ test was not based on weight. It was based on bra size. Are you saying that women with larger bra sizes are also more likely to be heavy?

The test on protein hormones found that curvy women of pear or hourglass shape were more likely to have it, not all "heavy" women. In fact, women who carried their weight around their waist are more likely to have heart disease, diabetes, etc. It is about where the weight is carried not simply having the weight. How would eating pror to the test influence these results, and would you be claiming that only one type of heavier woman eats prior to a test?

I'd like to hear your theories behind your bold assumption, Ahren. :)

Ahren_
Sunday, May 14th, 2006, 05:33 AM
Before which tests?
I was referring to the IQ test.


Why?
Because heavier women eat more? Because heavier women are more likely to eat before a test?

There is a correlation between breast size and obesity caused by certain lifestyle conditions or behaviors. That of course doesn't mean this is always the case and it certainly doesn't mean it is caused by over-eating. excess fat is distributed to many parts of the body, including the breasts.


Eating before a test improves test performance on IQ tests?
The brain functions more efficiently when fueled by higher levels of Glucose.

Agrippa
Sunday, May 14th, 2006, 12:19 PM
Crucial seems to be the aspect of "feminity" rather than fat itself, thats what the study says. But its an interesting aspect to think about. However, concerning the "sexy" thing, this woman has certain pros which would work if she would be thin too, whereas many other women with a similar status wouldnt look that attractive obviously.

But its interesting on that matter to compare both males and females and performance types in general:


"In species where females make a greater parental investment, they tend to be more discriminating in mate choice, so the reproductive success of males depends largely on their ability to compete for mating opportunities (Trivers, 1972) either by winning fights with other males or by presenting displays preferred by females (Darwin, 1871). The fitness benefits of these outcomes tend to increase the prevalence of genes that promote male risk-taking and competitive ability at the expense of decreased investment in repair capacity and disease prevention (Daly and Wilson, 1978). This is the evolutionary reason why females live longer on average in most animal species (Hazzard, 1990). It illustrates how natural and sexual selection tend to maximize the survival of genes, sometimes at the expense of the survival of individuals. A pleiotropic gene that has a beneficial early effect and a detrimental late effect will be selected for because younger individuals have a higher reproductive value. The cumulative result of these pleiotropic genes is senescence (Williams, 1957). "

Link (http://human-nature.com/ep/articles/ep026685.html)

Whats known for a long time already is that the female fat dispositions is better if its about blood vessel diseases:
Typical male and female comparison:
http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=59271&stc=1&d=1147605090
Android and Gynoid fat disposition in adipose women:
http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=59272&stc=1&d=1147605100

QuietWind
Sunday, May 14th, 2006, 02:48 PM
There is a correlation between breast size and obesity caused by certain lifestyle conditions or behaviors. That of course doesn't mean this is always the case and it certainly doesn't mean it is caused by over-eating. excess fat is distributed to many parts of the body, including the breasts.



Do you have a source for this? What I have heard in the past (but never read anywhere) is that larger breasted women often have a proclivity towards weight gain. This does not imply that larger breasted women = obese, fat, or even overweight. Gaining weight doesn't necessarily mean that you gain it in your breasts either. Nor does losing weight mean that you lose it in your breasts. From what you are saying, we could assume that if a woman has a large breast, then she must be obese. Or we could conclude that if a woman is obese, she is most likely also big breasted. By saying that there is a correlation between the two, you are saying that there is a relationship between larger breasts and obesity. This would mean that as weight increases, so does breast size and as weight decreases so does breast size. I'd like to see the research on this. You are correct that a correlation does not mean that it is always the case; however, it would mean that it is the case in a large enough sample to be statistically significant.

CountBloodSpawn
Sunday, May 14th, 2006, 03:42 PM
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/s/161/161202_curvy_women_likely_to_live_longer .html




http://www.uterus1.com/news/uterusmainstory.cfm/66/1 (http://www.uterus1.com/news/uterusmainstory.cfm/66/1%5B/quote)

this is indeed true, why do you think only mainstream fashion media, nerds, and Pete Dohtery types are attracted to the waifey types

its simply science, volutopous=fittest volutopous looks gorgorous

Ahren_
Sunday, May 14th, 2006, 05:25 PM
It was a frivolous hypothesis. I took it too far I guess.

Prometheusfunke
Wednesday, June 28th, 2006, 05:40 PM
well, well.....

looks like i'm on the bright side of life :D

question: size 14 equals which european size?