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ScotchTape
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 01:43 AM
Is it possible for European people to have thick lips? I mean are actress Angelina Jolie's lips naturally like that(assuming she's fully European)? What about the model Karolina Kurkova? Are those kind of lips common in the Czech Republic?

Awar
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 02:13 AM
I don't know ;)

Lala
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 06:25 AM
I don't know ;)

Why am I not surprised with that response? :wsg

Angelina Jolie's lips are natural. But I don't think she looks fully European, even without those lips.

http://www.uwe.peterson.claranet.de/private/moviefaces/actress/j/angelinajolie.jpg

Awar
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 06:33 AM
Why am I not surprised with that response? :wsg

Angelina Jolie's lips are natural. But I don't think she looks fully European, even without those lips.

http://www.uwe.peterson.claranet.de/private/moviefaces/actress/j/angelinajolie.jpg

Here Lala, this is me......I have thick lips, so shoot me :)

Vojvoda
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 06:35 AM
Why am I not surprised with that response? :wsg

Angelina Jolie's lips are natural. But I don't think she looks fully European, even without those lips.

http://www.uwe.peterson.claranet.de/private/moviefaces/actress/j/angelinajolie.jpg

her father is a Polish-American.

Lala
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 06:47 AM
AWAR, I've noticed that before. Very peculiar... ;)

Hmmm... maybe "A.J." is European, who knows. She's a weirdo in many respects.

Nordhammer
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 07:12 AM
Depends on how thick we're talking about. :) I would say Jolie's and Awar's are a bit larger than normal.

Angelina has Amerindian ancestry from her mother's side. Funny thing is her mother looks better than she does, and her lips aren't as big.

cosmocreator
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 08:25 AM
Here Lala, this is me......I have thick lips, so shoot me :)


I don't think your lips are Caucasoid. Their source is likely Negroid or Mongoloid. I need to see a better pic and as much as I hate to say this, I'd need to see a clear close-up of your lips. That webcam pic is too pixilated.

timmy
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 12:02 PM
awar, you look like the actor from the german film 'run lola run'

http://www.efp-online.com/db/images/shst_99/blei.jpg
http://www.filmstar.de/entertainment/stars/m/moritz_bleibtreu.jpg

TaintedLove
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 01:35 PM
awar, you look like the actor from the german film 'run lola run'
My thoughts exactly, they look like they were separated at birth!

Awar
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 02:06 PM
Yep.... I have non-white ancestry, but nothing in the last 25000 or so years.

Someone already noticed about that German actor, the only difference is I have lighter pigmentation. I think he's Moritz Bleibtrau ( or something ).

He looks like a Borreby, which is how Frans classified me.....so............:AWW

Awar
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 05:23 PM
Here are a couple of links mentioning the origin of thick lips as not racial, but purely sexual trait:

http://dienekes.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=338

Here are pictures of Borreby men and women:

http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/rg-borreby.html

Here you can find Coon's descriptions of Serbs and Montenegrians:

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/7681/coon.html

Nordhammer
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 09:47 PM
He looks like a Borreby
http://www.filmstar.de/entertainment/stars/m/moritz_bleibtreu.jpg


:lol

timmy
Sunday, November 2nd, 2003, 10:34 PM
i think she (A.J) got her lips from her fathers side.

look at him when he was younger:

http://www.prisma-online.de/image/36/mmfroebus_01075536.jpeg

A recent photograph, his lips have aged so you would never know:

http://ak1.aka.eonline.com/7/1480/1218/0001/www.eonline.com/Celebs/Outabout/Archive2002/Images/voight.021202.jpg

morg
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 01:49 AM
I don't think your lips are Caucasoid. Their source is likely Negroid or Mongoloid. I need to see a better pic and as much as I hate to say this, I'd need to see a clear close-up of your lips. That webcam pic is too pixilated.

A certain member was banned partly because they made accusations and asked questions about ladygoeths heritage which were far less blunt than that statement^ , as a moderator you are setting a bad example to those new members who read it.

Awar
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:04 AM
...Oh, no! He's right. I know it sounds far-fetched, y'know, I am from a country where there has been no recorded presence of either black or mongoloid people ( at least since the beginning of written history ), but I think I do have some non-white DNA. :D

I always wondered why I can run a 100 meters in under 9 seconds, beat anyone in basketball and boxing ;)

In addition, I like to ride horses in the steppe and shoot arrows, pillage, rape etc. :D

Don't let my white skin and totally European heritage fool you! :wtf

Montenegro:
http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=5477

cosmocreator
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:13 AM
A certain member was banned partly because they made accusations and asked questions about ladygoeths heritage which were far less blunt than that statement^ , as a moderator you are setting a bad example to those new members who read it.


There is nothing in ladygoeth's phenotype that shows she is mixed. Let's wait and see what her DNA test will show, shall we? AWAR shows obvious non-white mixture because his lips are greatly averted. Alpinids and Nordids do not have this characteristic. Some Meds do but I'm not sure whether it is from mixture or evolved independently. If it is not from mixture, then what would have been the evolutionary advantage for some Meds and not others?

Awar
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:23 AM
Hey, cosmo...let's wait for my DNA test too, shall we?
;) Oh! And do punch that link I provided, so you can see where I'm from.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:25 AM
Hey, cosmo...let's wait for my DNA test too, shall we?
;) Oh! And do punch that link I provided, so you can see where I'm from.


I know where you're from, Southern Europe. I look forward to seeing the results of your DNA test. If it shows you are mixed, will you tell the truth?

Necronomicom
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:33 AM
...Oh, no! He's right. I know it sounds far-fetched, y'know, I am from a country where there has been no recorded presence of either black or mongoloid people ( at least since the beginning of written history ), but I think I do have some non-white DNA. :D

Why do you think Montenegro was named Montenegro in the first place? :doh :shrug :anieyes

Awar
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:35 AM
Of course I would tell the results as they are. I don't have inferiority/superiority complexes like some.

I wonder how would you feel if you found non-white ancestry. It's quite a lot more possibility of that in Canada, especially if you said the truth, when you told us you're a descendant of the first settlers of Canada.

Anyway, read from the link I provided, it won't kill you to know a little more. I added there an entire post about anthropology of Montenegro by Coon.

Awar
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:40 AM
Why do you think Montenegro was named Montenegro in the first place? :doh :shrug :anieyes

Montenegro is an international name for CRNA GORA, which translates to BLACK HIGHLANDS. Referring to a common type of forest there. But, you can see all that in my link.

Anyway, there are no black people living there, unlike ...say BRAZIL ;) :D

I wonder how much more ignorance will I have to see here?

PS. Ladygoeth's phenotype resembles LADOGAN mostly, especially her profile. I wonder if you've read Coon's papers conserning Ladogans and their origin.

Dienekes_Pontikos
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:41 AM
AWAR's lips are entirely within the Europoid range of variation.

http://www.sikyon.com/Delphi/Art/henioxos.jpg
http://www.heliotopos.net/conf/tours/inioxos.jpg

http://www.sikyon.com/Delphi/Art/henioxos.jpg
http://www.heliotopos.net/conf/tours/inioxos.jpg

cosmocreator
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:45 AM
I wonder how would you feel if you found non-white ancestry. It's quite a lot more possibility of that in Canada, especially if you said the truth, when you told us you're a descendant of the first settlers of Canada.

It's possible. Wouldn't effect me greatly if there was Amerindian somewhere in my ancestry though. Nothing in my phenotype would suggest it. Nor in the pics of my ancestors. I posted pics of my ancestors going all the way back to my great, great, great grandparents here.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:50 AM
PS. Ladygoeth's phenotype resembles LADOGAN mostly, especially her profile. I wonder if you've read Coon's papers conserning Ladogans and their origin.


I don't think you know what you're talking about. She doesn't look like these people.

http://www.legioneuropa.org/Racediv/CSCoon/Images/p2f1.gif
http://www.legioneuropa.org/Racediv/CSCoon/Images/p2f2.gif
http://www.legioneuropa.org/Racediv/CSCoon/Images/p2f3.gif
http://www.legioneuropa.org/Racediv/CSCoon/Images/p2f4.gif

I'm not saying she has or hasn't have any ancestors like these people, but she doesn't look like them.

Necronomicom
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:52 AM
Anyway, there are no black people living there, unlike ...say BRAZIL ;) :D

I wonder how much more ignorance will I have to see here?

lol i hope you didn't think i was being serious ;)

Awar
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 06:58 AM
...I too have posted pics of my relatives, grandparents and parents in a couple of threads. Thick lips are probably a sexual characteristic, acquired through selection. Montenegro, if you've read Coon's paper is a place where there was much selection through the ages. You can see that Montenegrins are a special type, Coon mentions unreduced UP influence there.

As for Ladygoeth, I wonder if you can compare her pictures with examples 2 and 3 of what you posted.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 07:12 AM
As for Ladygoeth, I wonder if you can compare her pictures with examples 2 and 3 of what you posted.

This is not a thread about ladygoeth. She is different from pictures 2 and 3. Her nose is straight and thin, her chin is more projecting, her lips are thinner.

Evolved
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 08:31 AM
AWAR has sexy lips, hubba hubba! :prettykit :D :emb

My lips are kinda flat. Of course I'm part Ladogan but with a longer Neolithic-influenced nose, longer head. And the top of my head is totally flat. One of a kind racial mutant. :D

Evolved
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 01:09 PM
Since we're talking about me now :D what do you think about my eye shape? I finally got a good pic with my webcam. Yeah, my eyes are really that swarthy and swampy colored. :~(

Vojvoda
Tuesday, November 4th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Since we're talking about me now :D what do you think about my eye shape? I finally got a good pic with my webcam. Yeah, my eyes are really that swarthy and swampy colored. :~(

Nothing peculiar, they look like my eyes:lol