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Teh Aryan Goat
Saturday, August 17th, 2002, 11:49 PM
The myth of Hitler as the "imperfect Aryan" with brown eyes is often spouted and propagated by the same individuals who would have us believe that Hitler was a Jew or a homosexual - myths which can be easily disproved and are completely rejected by mainstream Hitler biographers.

One of the first things people noticed about Hitler was his "large, clear, and blue eyes." Dr. Ernst Hanfstaengl remarks in his article in Collier's, August 4, 1934 that, He [Hitler] had clear blue eyes and in them there was neither guile nor fear. There was honesty; there was sincerity; there was a hint of scorn." When Karl Ludecke first heard Hitler speak, he wrote, "Hitler was a slight, pale man with brown hair parted to one side. He had steel-blue eyes[...]" Leon Degrelle says in The Enigma of Hitler that, "Hitler had deep blue eyes that many found bewitching." Sefton Delmer of the Daily Express wrote on 23rd February, 1933, "Hitler watched them for a few moments, a savage fury blazing from his pale blue eyes." Martha Dodd writes in her book Through Embassy Eyes that, "Hitler's eyes were startling and unforgettable - they seemed pale blue in color, were intense, unwavering, hypnotic."

Hundreds of other, similar quotes are to be found in mainstream Hitler biographies. From John Toland to Alan Bullock, historians agree: Hitler had blue eyes. To deny this is contrary to all reason, for a brown-eyed Hitler would've had to get his brown eyes from nowhere, as both his parents had blue eyes also.

Another even more common myth is the one that Hitler was Jewish. One need not rely on quotations to disprove this - simple facts will suffice. The discovery of one Katharina Salomon - an apparently Jewish-sounding name - first started speculations about Hitler's supposed Jewish ancestry. Actually, Saloman was the daughter of Johann Salomon, a Catholic. Later on, it was found that the Catholic Katharina Salomon did not even belong on Hitler's family tree;.she was replaced by Maria Hamberger.

One newspaper went so far as to publish the pedigree of one Klara Hitler, a Jew born in 1821. This was supposedly Hitler's mother - even though the Jewess in question would have been 78 years old at the time of Hitler's birth.

The most common story of Hitler's alleged Jewishness comes originally from Hans Frank, who claimed that before Hitler's father was born, Hitler's grandmother Schicklgruber had been a cook in Graz, in the household of a Jew by the name of Frankenberger; that she had become pregnant by the son of the house, and that for the next fourteen years she had received child support payments. According to Frank, this information came directly from Hitler, who said that his grandmother had told him this. Frank's statement is obviously false, for Hitler's grandmother had died 42 years before Hitler was even born. And not only that: no record exists of either a Frankenberger or a Frankenreiter in Graz. In fact, not a single Jew lived anywhere in the entire province until after 1856. Hitler's father was born twenty years earlier, a fact which lays this fraudulent theory to rest.

Despite this, and despite the fact that every genealogist who has ever studied Hitler's family tree has confirmed his Aryan ancestry, Jews and lemmings continue to divide and weaken National Socialists by throwing out these foul lies. Next time, don't believe them! And cite a few, simple facts.

Stríbog
Sunday, August 18th, 2002, 12:33 AM
You touched on most of the main myths about Hitler. I will try and dispel a few other propagandistic misconceptions...

First was the fact that he was bitter because he was a "bad artist." NordicPower88 posted a thread with several links demonstrating that the Führer was an excellent artist, so I don't need to go into further detail; the paintings speak for themselves.

The next absurd myth is that he caught syphilis from a Jewish prostitute. I have no idea how this one originated, but I have never heard any actual evidence for it, ever. It sounds like typical malicious slander to me.

The most absurd myth is probably the assertion that he only had 1 testicle. Again, I have no idea how it originated, but it is almost certainly false. My high school history teacher actually taught this as fact!!! :rolleyes:

Hellstar
Wednesday, August 21st, 2002, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by NordischesBlutundEhre


First was the fact that he was bitter because he was a "bad artist." NordicPower88 posted a thread with several links demonstrating that the Führer was an excellent artist, so I don't need to go into further detail; the paintings speak for themselves.

Well all you can say about bitterness is maybe that Hitler was abit bitter that he never got into Art school, it only told him another tale. the tale in which rich people from good families and education backgrounds had first priority instead of people from the workerclass or Germanic descent.

My personal opinion is that ART in whatever shape it has> Music/writing/poems/ect........is something beyond common approval.

GreenHeart
Wednesday, August 21st, 2002, 12:20 PM
The paintings were excellant of course, in my opinion. But they weren't what a liberal school wanted, and today they still wouldn't accept it. They don't want realistic art, they want picasso or some fingerpainting done by a jew or nigger.

Nevermind that you have talent, it has nothing to do with anything in todays world. That should definitely change!

My own art is also not primitive enough for those idiots.:peng

Chemical Nose
Wednesday, August 21st, 2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Teh Aryan Goat


One of the first things people noticed about Hitler was his "large, clear, and blue eyes."

Im told everywhere, that he had light green eyes? and even on the photos i seen, how do you explain that?



Originally posted by NordicPower88

My own art is also not primitive enough for those idiots.:peng

What art do you do?

I wanna seex_yawn

davison6
Friday, August 23rd, 2002, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by NordischesBlutundEhre
You touched on most of the main myths about Hitler. I will try and dispel a few other propagandistic misconceptions...

First was the fact that he was bitter because he was a "bad artist." NordicPower88 posted a thread with several links demonstrating that the FErer was an excellent artist, so I don't need to go into further detail; the paintings speak for themselves.

The next absurd myth is that he caught syphilis from a Jewish prostitute. I have no idea how this one originated, but I have never heard any actual evidence for it, ever. It sounds like typical malicious slander to me.

The most absurd myth is probably the assertion that he only had 1 testicle. Again, I have no idea how it originated, but it is almost certainly false. My high school history teacher actually taught this as fact!!! :rolleyes: I never heard of the last two. The most common ones are that he was gay, for which no reliable evidence exists, and that instead of an artist he was a wallpaper hanger in Vienna. This last one is dying out.


Originally posted by HELLSTAR

Well all you can say about bitterness is maybe that Hitler was abit bitter that he never got into Art school, it only told him another tale. the tale in which rich people from good families and education backgrounds had first priority instead of people from the workerclass or Germanic descent.Many artists now celebrated were disregarded in their lifetimes. And many artists who make money while living fade into obscurity afterwards


Originally posted by NordicPower88
The paintings were excellant of course, in my opinion. But they weren't what a liberal school wanted, and today they still wouldn't accept it. They don't want realistic art, they want picasso or some fingerpainting done by a jew or nigger. Nevermind that you have talent, it has nothing to do with anything in todays world. That should definitely change! My own art is also not primitive enough for those idiots.:peng Picasso is a clear example of the tail wagging the artistic dog. What he really had a talent for was convincing people with money that he was a genius. A good example was a "painting" titled "The Egg of Creation from which the Univers Sprang Forth" or something like that, for which he received the sum of ten thousand dollars (impressive in those days). The contents? A black dot on a white canvas. As friend once remarked "I could see the symbolism if it were a black canvas with a white dot", but he was too lazy to even do that.
Another story I remember concerns a mysterious Swedish artist in the sixties who would only sell his work through two Stockholm dealers. For a while his paintings were selling well all over Europe until a determined reporter tracked him down and discovered he was actually a chimpanzee.

Hellstar
Friday, August 23rd, 2002, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by davison6
Many artists now celebrated were disregarded in their lifetimes.
So true So true...........

I also wonder about all those who never got the right respect for their worth in decades later.

Another story I remember concerns a mysterious Swedish artist in the sixties who would only sell his work through two Stockholm dealers. For a while his paintings were selling well all over Europe until a determined reporter tracked him down and discovered he was actually a chimpanzee.
x_rofl

Chris
Tuesday, September 3rd, 2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by davison6
I never heard of the last two.

I think it most probably comes from the British wartime song which goes something like:

"Hitler has only got one ball, Goerings got two but very small, Himmlers got something simmler, etc. etc."

I forget the rest.

kaleun
Tuesday, September 3rd, 2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Chris


I think it most probably comes from the British wartime song which goes something like:

"Hitler has only got one ball, Goerings got two but very small, Himmlers got something simmler, etc. etc."

I forget the rest.
"Himmler's are somewhat similar,
But poor old Goeballs has no balls at all".

So how did he father his children? It was a wartime propaganda song to boost morale. The Brits have a peculiar sense of humour. But they did at least appreciate our song "Lili Marleen"; that was sung by the Tommies and the Poilus as well. And of course, we share the marchtune "Alte Kamaraden" as "Old Comrades".

Arno
Sunday, September 29th, 2002, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by HELLSTAR

it only told him another tale. the tale in which rich people from good families and education backgrounds had first priority instead of people from the workerclass or Germanic descent.



You meaning, they turned him away becose he was not rich?

I never read that before. Interesting.

Where did you read that? Can you give me a link or name book? I am very interested in subject.

Can you recomend a book just over his youth-life?

Hellstar
Sunday, September 29th, 2002, 05:04 PM
I read this in some books "Ejnar Vaaben" wrote in the 1930th, he was personal friends with Günther and met Hitler as well. these books are nearly extinct I found them by coincidence in an archaic used book shop where they been untouched on the shell in 15 years without being bought,

I haven't really read it anywhere else now I come to think of it, it was of cause indirect told to him, Hitler was convinced he had the talent (which he indeed had) but his poor school papers and his background didn't please the fine gentlemen at the art school in fact they turned him direct down because he didn't have a examine diploma to show at the academies painter school on the schiller square, they also told him his abilities was on the architectonic realm among many realms, If you ask me Arno then this is just their excuses for modern systemizing in its inhuman abhorrently form.

Arno
Sunday, September 29th, 2002, 08:33 PM
Wow! Thanks comrade! I am so glad to found inteligent person who is researched in history!

I hope you can help me with research on subjects in future.

If you know any books, please tell. :)

Evolved
Sunday, February 23rd, 2003, 10:20 PM
http://www.pro.gov.uk/releases/feb2002-SOE/hitler-passport-600.jpg

Evolved
Sunday, February 23rd, 2003, 10:22 PM
http://image.pathfinder.com/photo/archive/people/art/hitler.jpg
His eyes don't look brown in any of the photographs I've seen of him. They always appear very light and bright.

Glenlivet
Sunday, February 23rd, 2003, 10:36 PM
I'm not so good with German Suetterlin handwriting, but it seems to be and "r" and "n" in the end, as in "braun". So can we be sure it doesn't say "blau" in his passport?




Originally posted by ladygoeth33
His eyes don't look brown in any of the photographs I've seen of him. They always appear very light and bright.

Aryan NS
Monday, February 24th, 2003, 12:13 AM
To the best of my knowledge Hitler had green eyes... must be the kelt x_p

GreenHeart
Monday, February 24th, 2003, 12:43 AM
It really does say he has brown eyes and it also says he has black hair x_p

But its an obvious fake because the writing wasn't like that back then. They used a different German writing style which is next to impossible to read. I have some family documents written in the syle used back then and I had to get a friend's German grandma to translate them. I'll post an example from a book which was circulated during the time Hitler was in power.

The picture below is from Der Giftpilz, its an anti-jewish childrens book. It was written by Ernst Hiemer and published in 1938.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/images/giftpilz/scan1.jpg

Check out this site.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/thumb.htm

mav0ric
Monday, February 24th, 2003, 01:43 AM
In all the books I have ever read and that had pictures, every one looks like his eyes are brown. I have alot of ww2 books and Hitler books and I dont ever remember seeing an eye pic that looked anything but brown or dark. I always assumed his eyes were brown.

Stríbog
Monday, February 24th, 2003, 03:42 AM
His eyes were strikingly blue, as everyone who met him in person attested, and as Toland recorded in the biography. The myth of his brown eyes is something Jews use to try and make him look like a hypocrite. That passport is obviously a fake, because it lists the wrong birthdate, and lists his occupation as painter in 1941! I would think that the Führer of the greater Reich would have a more accurate and formal passport than that.

Aryan NS
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:33 PM
I think his eyes were siilar to mine, that being dark green and light green and blue mixture. This can come off as dark eyes from a distance, but if you look at them closely, you see they are certainly not brown.

Legio_Melita
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:38 PM
Hitler is always described as having brown hair, and striking blue eyes that strook terror in every enemy. Even Ex-Nazi Germans like Robert Speer still describe Hitler as having "blue eyes that could fill you with power if an ally, and strike you down with fear if opposing him".

Stríbog
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 10:04 PM
BTW it's Albert Speer, not Robert Speer.

Evolved
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 11:17 PM
I guess it is a fake. :)

SOE’s forgery section produced fake documents to provide cover for operatives’ clandestine activities in occupied Europe and elsewhere around the world. The fake document section relied heavily on counterfeiters and forgers recently released from his Majesty’s Pleasure. This fake passport for Adolf Hitler shows what the forgery department could create and also something of their sense of humour. Note the red ‘J’ (used to indicate Jews on German passports) and the Government of Palestine stamp showing Hitler as an emigrant to Palestine. It also says his occupation is a ‘painter’ and his distinguishing features are his ‘little moustache’.

Naro626
Wednesday, February 26th, 2003, 12:41 AM
I have no idea where anyone is coming up with Brown or green or dark in any way. They were an electric blue unmistakeable to any eye witness or artist who painted him. He got these eyes from his mother and they were said to have an icy hypnotic effect.

GreenHeart
Wednesday, February 26th, 2003, 04:44 AM
Yeah his eyes seem to be an icy light blue. I have no idea where Aryan NS got the idea he had green eyes, wishful thinking perhaps....

Hellstar
Tuesday, April 8th, 2003, 01:39 PM
Well I trust Ejnar Våben from Denmark, he met Hitler personally,

See rather someone likes to fuck with others pictures or Signatures shouldn't be no surprise. I see it all the time on the internet, only trust the naked source not the source with a odd motive.

True Nordics have darker blue eyes than any other race. So in a few feet away from the person they can actually look abit dark (it happens in many photos as well) You can only see the pure blue when very close often. So Pictures taken from a distance can mess with peoples mind. rather he had blue eyes or not dont seem to be biggest interest to me to defend. but I do think he had blue eyes!

Zimmer Mann
Monday, April 14th, 2003, 03:12 AM
I have recently perused a biography on Hitler and though I didn't have time to check every citation on his appearance from the index, the various B/W photos and in particular the portraits show someone with either light eyes or very light brown eyes. Until reading this thread I had always thought he was pure brunette but now and upon closer examination I see that his eyes were blue or light mixed. Brown eyes simply don't show up that light in B/W.

cosmocreator
Monday, April 14th, 2003, 10:31 PM
Hitler is described as having blue-eyes and light brown hair. The author met him.

http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/0123.html

Borivoj
Sunday, May 4th, 2003, 09:25 PM
Does anyone know of any colour pictures of Hitler that shows the couour of his eyes? Could someone post them if they find some?

Saoirse
Wednesday, May 14th, 2003, 10:49 AM
I've read stuff from people that have met him and they say his eyes were blue.

Einherjar
Wednesday, May 14th, 2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by volksdeutsche
I'm not so good with German Suetterlin handwriting, but it seems to be and "r" and "n" in the end, as in "braun". So can we be sure it doesn't say "blau" in his passport?

yes, it is clear. "Braun"
but could it be fake?

Glenlivet
Wednesday, May 14th, 2003, 08:27 PM
His eyes look very light in all the pictures I have seen. They look at least light-mixed (dark grey or lighter hazel). One cannot tell the colour (as pale blue is lack of pigment, it's the light that make it look blue, even more depigmented and it would look pink, like albinos), but it's clear that they are not dark.

I have also read that his eyes are blue and the hair light brown (it looks medium brown, chestnut).

The Adolf Hitler Historical Archives:

http://www.adolfhitler.ws/

"He had a close-cropped mustache, and his strikingly large, pale blue eyes...":

http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/from_redirect/0,10987,1101890828-152486,00.html

Photos of Herr Hitler:

http://vikingphoenix.com/photos/who/who-3med.gif
http://www.oldeagle.pp.se/hitler/ah9.htm
http://holocaust-history.org/short-essays/adolf-hitler-photo.shtml
http://www.dhm.de/lemo/objekte/pict/95005813/
http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/gallery-hitler.htm
http://fcit.coedu.usf.edu/holocaust/GALL31R/05459.htm

He could be some Dinaricised Alpinid with a Nordid strain.




Originally posted by Einherjar
yes, it is clear. "Braun"
but could it be fake?

Vojvoda
Wednesday, May 14th, 2003, 10:52 PM
He is more dinarid than alpinid check out his profile

http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/bilder/hitler-quisling.jpg

Azdaja
Thursday, May 15th, 2003, 01:18 PM
Hey, if he had PALE blue eyes, then could not the Nordid element actually be Baltid, rather than Hallstatt?

Nordgau
Saturday, May 17th, 2003, 05:12 PM
That passport is fake and (good made) rubbish.

It's not because of the writing. In those times the Germans wrote in two ways: German handwriting (mostly called generally "Sütterlin", although Sütterlin exactly is only one special type of German handwriting) and Latin (or English) handwriting, the handwriting of nowerday. So the Latin handwriting in the passport isn't an indicator for right or wrong.

But there are others. Some have already been mentioned:

- "Funny" declarations, such as "little moustache" and "painter" (in 1941!)

- the not correct day of birth

Some others:

- The "passport photo" is part from an official Führer portait. One wouldn't use a part of a big picture for a passport photo.

- The "passport" was "draftered" in Vienna. I don't know any good reason why a Hitler passport from 1941 should have been draftered there. Munich (where Hitler had his private apartment) or Berlin would be quite normal.

- Grammar: One would normally write in the hair colour field "schwarz", not "schwarze". And no German would write "kleine Schnurrbart" without the article "der". Without the article it must be "kleiner Schnurrbart". Only someone who hasn't got German as mother tongue wouldn't have that in his feeling and would write "kleine" here.

- Hitler's signature doesn't seem to be from the Fourties for me. In that time "Adolf" was more blurred and the "H" from "Hitler" was quite "further devoloped".
The name "Hitler" was "turned" in this passport here. That's why it goes up and than down to the line again like an arch - that's absolute unusual in Hitler's real signature. Normally it doesn't go up and it "falls of the line" in the end. It must be copied from some earlier document from the Twenties or Thirties.
It really doesn't look like a real, authentic signature written by Hitler, but both, "Adolf" and "Hitler" seperately copied in there somehow.

- Last but not least: in the many books I have read about Hitler that "passport" has never been mentioned or shown as facsimile. It must have been at least mentioned somewhere in the enormous Hitler literature if it was real. But I never heard of it before.

Glenlivet
Saturday, May 17th, 2003, 06:15 PM
Good job.

The Public Record Office is the national archive of England, Wales and the United Kingdom:

http://www.pro.gov.uk/releases/feb2002-SOE/Page3.htm

"Document Reference: HS 8/1032 – see also PRO Online SOE’s forgery section produced fake documents to provide cover for operatives’ clandestine activities in occupied Europe and elsewhere around the world. The fake document section relied heavily on counterfeiters and forgers recently released from his Majesty’s Pleasure. This fake passport for Adolf Hitler shows what the forgery department could create and also something of their sense of humour. Note the red ‘J’ (used to indicate Jews on German passports) and the Government of Palestine stamp showing Hitler as an emigrant to Palestine. It also says his occupation is a ‘painter’ and his distinguishing features are his ‘little moustache’.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1808286.stm

"A forged passport for Adolf Hitler made by British intelligence officers is among secret UK government documents made public for the first time.

The fake passport, stamped Vienna 1941, is among files released on Friday from the wartime sabotage and subversion organisation, the Special Operations Executive (SOE). "

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_514856.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/freedom/Story/0,2763,646744,00.html





Originally posted by Thorburnulf
That passport is fake and (good made) rubbish.

It's not because of the writing. In those times the Germans wrote in two ways: German handwriting (mostly called generally "Sütterlin", although Sütterlin exactly is only one special type of German handwriting) and Latin (or English) handwriting, the handwriting of nowerday. So the Latin handwriting in the passport isn't an indicator for right or wrong.

But there are others. Some have already been mentioned:

- "Funny" declarations, such as "little moustache" and "painter" (in 1941!)

- the not correct day of birth

Some others:

- The "passport photo" is part from an official Führer portait. One wouldn't use a part of a big picture for a passport photo.

- The "passport" was "draftered" in Vienna. I don't know any good reason why a Hitler passport from 1941 should have been draftered there. Munich (where Hitler had his private apartment) or Berlin would be quite normal.

- Grammar: One would normally write in the hair colour field "schwarz", not "schwarze". And no German would write "kleine Schnurrbart" without the article "der". Without the article it must be "kleiner Schnurrbart". Only someone who hasn't got German as mother tongue wouldn't have that in his feeling and would write "kleine" here.

- Hitler's signature doesn't seem to be from the Fourties for me. In that time "Adolf" was more blurred and the "H" from "Hitler" was quite "further devoloped".
The name "Hitler" was "turned" in this passport here. That's why it goes up and than down to the line again like an arch - that's absolute unusual in Hitler's real signature. Normally it doesn't go up and it "falls of the line" in the end. It must be copied from some earlier document from the Twenties or Thirties.
It really doesn't look like a real, authentic signature written by Hitler, but both, "Adolf" and "Hitler" seperately copied in there somehow.

- Last but not least: in the many books I have read about Hitler that "passport" has never been mentioned or shown as facsimile. It must have been at least mentioned somewhere in the enormous Hitler literature if it was real. But I never heard of it before.

Galahad
Wednesday, January 21st, 2004, 01:03 PM
How come he's always depicted as having brown eyes in Nazi propaganda posters?

And why would brown eyes make him any less Aryan?

White people have blue, green, brown, hazel and mixed eyes.

http://www.osterraederlauf.com/luegde/images/hitler-s.jpg

http://www.sporen.nl/posters/poster5/Hitler.jpg

http://www.third-reich-books.com/pt-602-303-adolf-150dpi.jpg

Nordgau
Wednesday, January 21st, 2004, 02:07 PM
Hitler had blue eyes. That is well documented by many photos and also by discriptions of numerous people who met and described him. On the first two posters of you one doesn't sea at all the colour clearly, the eyes are to small. Also, on the third picture of you it's a fade blue, not brown.

Here are two photos and one painting where his eye colour is givenand can be seen clearly:

http://home.tiscali.dk/8x026834/images/hitler.jpg
http://www.moustache-database.freeservers.com/history/hitler.jpg
http://www.soldat.com/Kunst%20Hitler.jpg

Galahad
Wednesday, January 21st, 2004, 02:59 PM
[QUOTE=Nordgau]Hitler had blue eyes.[QUOTE]

I guess you're right. That's interesting.

However, why would anyone think it would make him any less Aryan if he were to have had brown eyes?

Rebirth
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 12:46 AM
See the attachments and get confused.

QuietWind
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 01:57 AM
The passport photo listing Hitler's eyes as brown is a fake.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/museum/item.asp?item_id=46

Deling
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 11:19 AM
"The most absurd myth is probably the assertion that he only had 1 testicle. Again, I have no idea how it originated, but it is almost certainly false. My high school history teacher actually taught this as fact!!!"

Well, it's not too unusual for men to have only one testicle; after all, we aren't really born with them, they "roll" down during the first years of our lives.
I also heard it tend to lead to hyper-activity and general sensualism, which would fit Hitler very well. Myth or not, it sure can't be degrading him if it were true.

...but sure there are myths about Hitler. His early homosexuality (which is reasonably questionable), him living on the Moon, etc.

Aeternitas
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 01:17 PM
See also here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1808286.stm) regarding the fake passport.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1805000/images/_1808286_passportborder300.jpg http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1805000/images/_1808286_passport150.jpg

One can also trace the rumors of Jewish ancestry (something which has been refuted far too many times as false propaganda) back to this story - the red "J" in the passport denoted Jewish.

No solid explanation is given as to why the fake Hitler passport was created - it could have been a joke, or part of a plan to spread disinformation.

Krabat
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 05:05 PM
The paintings were excellant of course, in my opinion. But they weren't what a liberal school wanted, and today they still wouldn't accept it. They don't want realistic art, they want picasso or some fingerpainting done by a jew or nigger.

Nevermind that you have talent, it has nothing to do with anything in todays world. That should definitely change!

My own art is also not primitive enough for those idiots.:peng
This is true I'm a artist and I paint Fantasy eg. dragons, buildings and landscapes in a realistic way. I know dragons arent real but I paint them in a realistic looking way. The thing is Galleries Where I live are not interested in them nor do they have much realistic work by any other artists. but they are crowded with abstract paintings that look like somebodie with a bad diarreha poped on a canvas.

QuietWind
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 05:21 PM
"The most absurd myth is probably the assertion that he only had 1 testicle. Again, I have no idea how it originated, but it is almost certainly false. My high school history teacher actually taught this as fact!!!"

Well, it's not too unusual for men to have only one testicle; after all, we aren't really born with them, they "roll" down during the first years of our lives.
I also heard it tend to lead to hyper-activity and general sensualism, which would fit Hitler very well. Myth or not, it sure can't be degrading him if it were true.

...but sure there are myths about Hitler. His early homosexuality (which is reasonably questionable), him living on the Moon, etc.
Not true. Males are born with their testicles already descended. Even those who aren't, still have testicles, they just suffer from a condition where they haven't yet descended. Read up on it. Here is a link for you. Only 3.4% of full term babies don't have them yet descended and of those, 50% do so within the first month of life.

http://www.healthcentral.com/encyclopedia/408/390/Cryptorchidism_Undescended_testicles.htm l

Deling
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 05:53 PM
JENNIFER: If that's so, to about 1 of 100 males one of the testicles don't descend within the first month(s). Sounds much.

QuietWind
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 09:14 PM
JENNIFER: If that's so, to about 1 of 100 males one of the testicles don't descend within the first month(s). Sounds much. The number goes down to less than 1 out of 100 by one year of age, and after that some still spontaneously descend. The surgery to correct the disorder has been documented since as early as 1877.

http://www.jurology.com/pt/re/juro/abstract.00005392-200507000-00012.htm;
jsessionid=ClPRhoLRo3ePDbFWvAm8C00NAFgWK 6FFEcHV6prHtOLDVKCYIeoF!-2006515172!-949856031!9001!-1



Edit: You may have to copy paste the entire URL to the above reference. I hate when they get so long on one line and make the post all funny and stretched out, so I put it on two lines. :)

herr georg
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 10:42 AM
The most absurd myth is probably the assertion that he only had 1 testicle. Again, I have no idea how it originated, but it is almost certainly false. My high school history teacher actually taught this as fact!!
There was a song made up during the war effort by the english about nazi leaders testicles...I know...strange...and the line was 'hitler had only one'.
Anyway I was reading in a book about the paranormal about how 'uncanny' it was that the poem was written years before hitler's remains were discovered, which was supposedly when they discovered he had only one testicle. Tragic that rather then admitting it was obviously just propaganda, they sketch it up to psychic phenomenon:thumbdown

Krabat
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 01:08 PM
The most absurd myth is probably the assertion that he only had 1 testicle. Again, I have no idea how it originated, but it is almost certainly false. My high school history teacher actually taught this as fact!! Normaly people only wind up with one testicle if they had one testicle surgically removed because of a cancerous tumor.

QuietWind
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 01:30 PM
There was a song made up during the war effort by the english about nazi leaders testicles...I know...strange...and the line was 'hitler had only one'.
Anyway I was reading in a book about the paranormal about how 'uncanny' it was that the poem was written years before hitler's remains were discovered, which was supposedly when they discovered he had only one testicle. Tragic that rather then admitting it was obviously just propaganda, they sketch it up to psychic phenomenon:thumbdown
From what source do you get that his remains were discovered? I've read several credible sources and they all say that his body has never been recovered. Sure, there have been several claims that he had been found, but all of them turned out to be false. If you have a new source that came out within the past 10 years or so giving claim to have found his remains, I'd be interested in reading it. His body was burned.... are we even sure the testicles would have survived the fire to be accounted for?

Nordraserei
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 02:03 PM
Because so many people are fascinated with the male genitalia. You are correct too. Every documentary I've seen on Hitler has stated that he had only one testicle, as if that changes him or something. But wait, Hitler was also 1/8th Jew, I mean 1/4th Jew, I mean 1/2 Jew. I suppose next he'll be pure Jewish. Would be funny if he was. Think about it -- the most evil man the world has ever known was a Jew. :P

Even if he did have one testicle, so what? I personally find this obsession with physical issues about Hitler irrelevant. It's historical facts that are of more importance.

Zyklop
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 02:39 PM
But wait, Hitler was also 1/8th Jew, I mean 1/4th Jew, I mean 1/2 Jew. I suppose next he'll be pure Jewish. Would be funny if he was. Think about it -- the most evil man the world has ever known was a Jew. :P
http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=127257&postcount=35

Nordraserei
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 02:52 PM
I don't think you got the joke... I was simply stating that the myth changes depending on who I talk to. I can talk to one person who says he's 1/8th, one person who thinks he was 1/4th, another who thinks he was half, etc...

http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=127257&postcount=35

Josep Conrad
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 07:26 PM
Focusing on one man is forgetting that it was not by hi own hands that a Reich was made, it is forgetting the sacrifice voluntarily or not of German people and soldiers. Trying to explain Germany through the life, work or physical functions of Adolf Hitler is to put away the effort of a whole nation to escape from the devastation of corruption, war and poverty. It is forgetting the idea of Volk, and a man is a part of this Volk, a man could be the speaker for this Volk but nevertheless in the drama of life it is the Volk who decides what is the path to follow. Adolf Hitler was a historical figure with his shadows and his brights but Adolf Hitler was not Germany. Germany as any other nation is more than the one individual and this is a lesson than we musn´t forget.

Draco
Tuesday, August 2nd, 2005, 10:15 PM
Hitler fathered a son with a Frenchwoman during WW1.

He also lost his testicle as a child to a bet that he wouldn't urinate on a goat, which he did, and the goat proceeded to bite it off (I saw this in a mens magazine-you can tell the jewishness behind it through its mix of body waste and bestiality, things jews can never get enough of).

He also lived as Adi Lupis, Franco's gardener after WW2.

Those are the only three ones I've heard that haven't been mentioned in this thread.

Teufelhunden
Thursday, September 22nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
An excellent book I read was
Hitler a psycopathic God...

some things were honest, but also gave you an insight into his mind and shed some light on his life and a few "quirks".
If it were not for that fact he developed parkinsons disease that soon affects the mind whick would cause irrational actions, he would have been a force to recon with throught eh latter 40's and beyond.
Teufelhunden

Fenris
Thursday, September 22nd, 2005, 06:30 PM
Welcome to Skadi Teufelhunden, (tis I, Fenris from O.com ;) )

Agreed regarding his unfortunate condition, had he not developed Parkinsons, his mind would have remained sharp as a scalpel, and perhaps things would have turned out much more salubriously for our people, and less so for the insidious enemy he sought to expel.

Oh, and I also recall the "Hitler has only got one ball" song, though the variant I had was

Hitler has only got one ball
the other is in the Albert hall
His mother
the dirty bugger
she cut if off when he was small

So not only do we have an aspersion cast towards him and his masculinity there, it's also a slur against his mother.

Teufelhunden
Thursday, September 22nd, 2005, 07:08 PM
Lol hey brother :)
I remember my grandmother telling me about the "Hitler ball song" ROFL...
Oh another myth that my grandfather on my mothers side {82nd Ariborne} 1942-1946 told me that it was rumored that he liked to be kicked in the testicles, and liked little boys, man what a huge amount of propoganda lol...
I had 2 uncles in the Leuftwaffa and the SS, my mothers side was int he US ARMY, I would not want to be at that family reunion, or wedding dinner lol...

Klegutati
Thursday, December 28th, 2006, 11:55 PM
You do know Hitler was part Jewish on his mother's side.. ;)

Nordgau
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 03:00 AM
You do know Hitler was part Jewish on his mother's side.. ;)

Ah, on his mother's side? How interesting. Until now all claims on "Hitler's Jewish ancestry"--rejected as unsustainable by the serious historical researchers into that question--had to do with alleged Jewish blood on the father's side. But you surely undertook own profound investigative research on Hitler's ancestry and are able to present us sensational informations on that subject of which no one else has ever heard before, aren't you?

What has that to do with the "physical anthropology of the Jews" anyway?

Haldís
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 03:18 AM
But you surely undertook own profound investigative research on Hitler's ancestry and are able to present us sensational informations on that subject of which no one else has ever heard before, aren't you?
Source:
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/686/bannernov06da1.jpg

Æmeric
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 03:36 AM
I think the "Hitler is part Jewish" rumors, were started to embarrass Hitler.
The same thing as been done in the US ocassionally with Southern White politicians, except the rumors say "so & so is part Black". There has also been untrue rumors about a few US Presidents being part Black.

fonze
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 04:16 AM
I think the "Hitler is part Jewish" rumors, were started to embarrass Hitler.
The same thing as been done in the US ocassionally with Southern White politicians, except the rumors say "so & so is part Black". There has also been untrue rumors about a few US Presidents being part Black.

True, same with rumors about their sexual preferences.

All done to undermine their honor.

nätdeutsch
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 04:26 AM
True, same with rumors about their sexual preferences.
All done to undermine their honor.
how dare they besmirch his genocidal, rage-filled honor!

fonze
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 07:50 AM
how dare they besmirch his genocidal, rage-filled honor!


I never mentioned Hitler.

cielblanc
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 05:48 PM
You do know Hitler was part Jewish on his mother's side.. ;)
Huh...Did you know that he was also a perverted sexual maniac, also he's mother and father were actually brother and sister, also when Hitler was 8 years old one goat attacked him and bited his left testicule, also Hitler was actually an alien and when WWII was finished he just took his UFO and left for another planet.Recently some very very serious historiens also proved that Hitler was...a woman who deguised herself as a man everytime she was about to see people.

That was just a part of the bullcrap I've heard about Adolf Hitler.

Janus
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 06:58 PM
Hitler actually was Kane (who is an Alien anyways) from Command and Conquer and after he lost the war on the German side he quickly took power in Soviet Russia through poisoning Stalin.

Pervitinist
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 07:16 PM
[de-Nazified]Hitler? Who's that Hitler you're talking about? Never heard of him[/de-Nazified] :)

But I found a few more fascinating stories:



British Wartime Propaganda Lies

During the Second World War, Britain's main "dirty tricks" propaganda agency was the Political Warfare Executive (PWE), a unit of the British Foreign Office. This psychological warfare agency invented and distributed "black" propaganda disinformation to boost morale among anti-German British and Americans, and to promote anti-German sentiment in neutral countries. Its work also included manufacturing and distributing bogus German documents.

Some of the PWE's most bizarre falsehoods were distributed on phonograph records as part of a secret "Special (Venom)" campaign directed to Arabs. These fables included reports that Hitler hated Arabs, and that a Jewish doctor had cut off the German leader's testicles. Epithets applied to Hitler in this report included including "pig," "swine" and "bastard." Such exotic propaganda was considered necessary, the PWE advised, because Hitler's prestige was "tremendous in Arab countries."

The Arab-oriented campaign also included stories suggesting that the Germans were using mosques as brothels in Axis-ruled Tripoli. According to another PWE story, "Germans [were] so short of cloth they are training agents to disinter bodies in Muslim cemeteries and seize shrouds for use as machine rugs in Germany."

One of the most malicious PWE "black" reports was this April 1943 story: "On entering Tunis Allied troops found dead children cut up as butchers' meat in the German army store. Portions of them had already been used as pork ration. Typically enough, the Germans had filed their identity cards."

Some British officials were skeptical of this campaign's effectiveness. For example, a PWE story that Goebbels had enriched himself during the war, and had hidden away a private fortune, said one official, "would evoke admiration and envy rather than disapprobation."

This "Special (Venom)" campaign was first made public in 1994 when the relevant files were declassified from Britain's Public Records Office (and then reported in The Guardian newspaper, London, September 8, 1994, p. 22).

During the war years, British agencies produced and disseminated a wide range of anti-German propaganda lies. According to one suggested story, the Germans were using poison gas to secretly kill off their own wounded soldiers. This manufactured "rumor," designed to mislead and demoralize the German public, was proposed by Britain's Joint Intelligence Sub-Committee in October 1941. (A facsimile of the secret wartime document confirming this is published in facsimile in the Sept.-Oct. 1993 Journal, p. 43.)

Even some of the more bizarre propaganda stories have proven remarkably durable over the years. A good example is the wartime fable that the Germans were manufacturing oil and soap from the bodies of murdered Jews, a report that became an important feature of Jewish and Allied war propaganda. Two major Jewish agencies, the World Jewish Congress and the American Jewish Congress, energetically promoted this lie. (See: M. Weber, "Jewish Soap," Summer 1991 Journal, pp. 218, 234.)
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n5p15_propaganda.html

Death and the Sun
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 08:14 PM
Yet another example of the most peculiar things people seem to believe about Hitler. ;)

Some other tall tales I heard about him:

That he is from outer space, that he is still alive, that he ordered the mass murder of six million Jews during WW2, etc etc ... :-O

some_one_number_one
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 10:14 PM
im not fan of Hitler but i dont think so he was partly jewish
imo "jewish world" want to be something like that to make him as "holy Joe" or something like this.

Mac Seafraidh
Friday, December 29th, 2006, 10:45 PM
I like the lie that claims Hitler was related to the Rothschild's. What garbage! :thumbsdwn

Dr. Solar Wolff
Saturday, December 30th, 2006, 05:31 AM
I like Hitler's response to this question as cited by Tennyson. When Hitler was asked if Jesus was Jewish, Hitler replied that since God was Jesus' father, Jesus was only half-Jewish.

Pervitinist summed up my views on the subject.

Elgar
Monday, October 1st, 2007, 10:43 PM
Hitler had potential jewish ancestry so... I'm not going to get into some damned j00z discussion. So drop it.



Sir if you believe I owe you anything, whatsoever, you are sorely mistaken.

You can't expect to make controversial statements and not elaborate on them, no unless you want to be thought of as a troll. To be perfectly honest I am quite interested in what you have to say, now, so please do enlighten me...

Loyalist
Monday, October 1st, 2007, 10:45 PM
Hitler had potential jewish ancestry so... I'm not going to get into some damned j00z discussion. So drop it.



Sir if you believe I owe you anything, whatsoever, you are sorely mistaken.

Hitler had no Jewish ancestors, that's a concrete fact. Don't detract from the argument that your assertion about communism being a Germanic ideology has been shot down.

Odysseus
Monday, October 1st, 2007, 10:55 PM
Hitler had no Jewish ancestors, that's a concrete fact. Don't detract from the argument that your assertion about communism being a Germanic ideology has been shot down.

Says you. There is evidence (which I am almost certain you disregard as propaganda from the j00z) that Hitler had a small degree of jewish heritage.

BTW Marx's mother was not a jew, nor was Engles. So your argument has no merit and you're trying to detract from my argument.

Rassenpapst
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:31 AM
Says you. There is evidence (which I am almost certain you disregard as propaganda from the j00z) that Hitler had a small degree of jewish heritage.

BTW Marx's mother was not a jew, nor was Engles. So your argument has no merit and you're trying to detract from my argument.

"Heinrich Marx married a Dutch Jewess named Henrietta Pressburg whose genealogical tree showed, according to the statement of her granddaughter Eleanor Marx, a century-long line of Rabbis."

- Franz Mehring: "Karl Marx: The Story of His Life"
http://www.marxists.org/archive/mehring/1918/marx/ch01.htm

Drakkar
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:44 AM
Says you. There is evidence (which I am almost certain you disregard as propaganda from the j00z) that Hitler had a small degree of jewish heritage.

BTW Marx's mother was not a jew, nor was Engles. So your argument has no merit and you're trying to detract from my argument.
I and most likely others would like to know where you got the concrete evidence to say that Hitler indeed was part Jewish. Historians don't even know who his biological father was.
The biggest perpetrators for spreading this myth are Communists :oanieyes and Jews.

Sigurd
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 01:51 AM
Historians don't even know who his biological father was.

That is not true. There is no doubt that Alois Hitler, nee Schicklgruber was his father. What they are not sure about is who exactly his paternal grandfather was.

So if his paternal grandfather was indeed Jewish, then Hitler would not have been classed as Jewish - neither under Austrian Law, nor under Jewish Law (Jewish ancestry has to come from maternal side), nor even under the Nuremberg Race Laws (quarter Jews were allowed to intermarry with Germans), so even were that claim substantiated, it would have had little to no bearing other than a negative bearing on his credibility.

Either way, here is some information on his Ancestry:


Ancestry of Adolf Hitler
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"Heil Schicklgruber!"???

The name of Adolf Hitler has inspired both admiration and mortal dread. When Hitler became the Führer (the leader), the short, powerful word "Hitler" not only identified the man who carried it, but the word turned into a symbol of strength and loyalty. During Hitler's dictatorship, "Heil Hitler" became more than the paganlike chant at rallies and parades, it became the common form of address. During these years it was common to answer the telephone with "Heil Hitler" rather than the customary "Hello." Also, instead of closing letters with "Sincerely" or "Yours truly" one would write "H.H." - short for "Heil Hitler."

So what would have happened if Adolf Hitler's name had actually been Adolf Schicklgruber? Sound farfetched? You may not believe how close Adolf was to carrying this comical sounding last name.

Adolf's Father, Alois

Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889 in the town of Braunau am Inn, Austria to Alois and Klara Hitler.

Adolf was the fourth of six children born to Alois and Klara, but only one of two to survive childhood.

Adolf's father, Alois, was nearing his 52nd birthday when Adolf was born, but was only celebrating his 13th year as a Hitler. Alois (Adolf's father) was actually born as Alois Schicklgruber on June 7, 1837 to Maria Anna Schicklgruber. At the time of Alois' birth, Maria was not yet married. Five years later (May 10, 1842), Maria Anna Schicklgruber married Johann Georg Hiedler.

So Who Was Alois' Real Father?

The mystery concerning Adolf Hitler's grandfather (Alois' father) has spawned a multitude of theories that range from possible to preposterous. Whenever beginning this discussion, we should realize that we can only speculate about this man's identity because the truth rested with Maria Schicklgruber, and as far as we know, she took this information to the grave with her in 1847.

To explain away Adolf Hitler's treatment of Jews, some speculate Adolf's grandfather was a Jew. There is no basis for this speculation.

The simplest and legal answer to Alois' paternity points to Johann Georg Hiedler - the man Maria married five years after Alois' birth. The sole basis for this information dates to Alois' baptismal registry that shows Johann Georg claiming paternity over Alois on June 6, 1876 in front of three witnesses. At first glance, this seems like reliable information until you realize that Johann Georg would have been eighty-four years old and had actually died nineteen years earlier.

Who Changed the Baptismal Registry?

There are many versions of this story, but most point the finger at Johann Georg Hiedler's brother, Johann von Nepomuk Huetler. (The spelling of the last name was always changing - the baptismal registry spells it "Hitler.") Some rumors say that because Johann von Nepomuk had no sons to carry on the name of Hitler, he decided to change Alois' name by claiming that his brother had told him that this was true. Since Alois had lived with Johann von Nepomuk for most of his childhood, it is believable that Alois seemed like his son. Other rumors actually claim that Johann von Nepomuk was Alois' real father and that in this way he could give his son his last name.

No matter who changed it, Alois Schicklgruber officially became Alois Hitler at thirty nine years of age. Since Adolf was born after this name change, Adolf was born Adolf Hitler. But isn't it interesting how close it was?

Source (http://history1900s.about.com/od/hitleradolf/a/hitlerancestry.htm)

Æmeric
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 01:54 AM
Adolf Hitler's father was Alois Hitler, nee Alois Schicklgruber. It is the elder Hitler's paternity that is in doubt, though many believe his biological father was either his stepfather father, Johann Georg Heidler or Johann Nepomuk Heidler, the brother of JG. When Alois officially took the name Hitler (a variant of Heidler) he claimed his stepfather was actually his biological father.

Klare Polzl, Adolf's mother, was the granddaughter of JN Heidler.

Sigurd
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 02:33 AM
Hitler (a variant of Heidler)

I think they should all mean the same thing, i.e. "the man from the mountainside cottage" (you often have a Hütte on an Alm - therefore their ancestors would have probably been owners of one of those Almhütten. ;))

All variants of the name: Hittler, Hütter, Hüttler, Huetler, Hitler, Hiedler.

Funnily enough this makes Austrian footballer Adolf "Adi" Hütter sharing the exact name as Herr Hitler. :D

Leonhardt
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 03:25 AM
The rumor that Hitler was partially Jewish comes from a story that his grandmother became pregnant while unmarried working as a houseservant for the Rothschild family, then was immediately fired. This story is either false, or cannot be proven.

Zyklop
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 05:06 AM
This story is either false, or cannot be proven.Actually it is even disproven by the Jews themselves:

http://www.h-ref.de/personen/hitler-adolf/vorfahren/hitlers-abstammung.php

I will post a translation later.

Leonhardt
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 12:45 PM
Quick translations from German to English can be done on Google/Language using cut and paste.

Beornulf
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 02:54 PM
I hear he could fly and shoot fireballs from his eyes. This is not verified completely, but I got it from very reliable sources who assure me it's true.

Vingolf
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 03:09 PM
The rumor that Hitler was partially Jewish comes from a story that his grandmother became pregnant while unmarried working as a houseservant for the Rothschild family, then was immediately fired. This story is either false, or cannot be proven.
The unreliable Hans Frank is the source of this rumour. The British historian Ian Kershaw has rejected this rumour as a blatant lie. There were no Jews in that part of Steiermark where Hitler's ancestors came from until in the late 1860s (i.e. no admittance for Jews at the lifetime of his alleged "Jewish" grandfather.

Zyklop
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007, 03:16 PM
Actually it is even disproven by the Jews themselves:

http://www.h-ref.de/personen/hitler-adolf/vorfahren/hitlers-abstammung.php (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.h-ref.de%2Fpersonen%2Fhitler-adolf%2Fvorfahren%2Fhitlers-abstammung.php)

I will post a translation later.
Just a rough summary:

The suspicion of Hitler's grandfather being Jewish is based on the claim that his grandmother Anna Maria Schicklgruber worked as cook in the houshold of a Jew with name Frankenberger living in Graz and having an affair with him. This has been disproven for several reasons:
The German name Frankenberger was not used by Jews according to genealogical research.
There were no Jewish settlements in Graz since the late 15th century as it was forbidden by Imperial decree
Anna Maria Schicklgruber never worked as a cook or maid according to her documents
Anna Maria Schicklgruber never lived in GrazLast but not least, the source of this claim revealed his story about Hitler's alleged Jewish ancestry at the Nuremburg Trials, which should say enough about the credibility of this story.

United Faith
Thursday, October 4th, 2007, 10:38 AM
I hear he could fly and shoot fireballs from his eyes. This is not verified completely, but I got it from very reliable sources who assure me it's true.

Does it "still remain controversial"? :)

United Faith
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Okay. I've read, as most people here would have, the claimes that Hitler is part Jewish.

From the evidence they give, if it is true, it is quite possible that he could be.

I would like to know what people think, from pictures of Hitler, whether or not he is part Jewish.

Now don't get going that some Jews, mainly Ashkenazim don't look "Jewish". Apparently, he is a descendant of a Khazar Jew.

I hope I shouldn't have to post a photo. :)

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 09:48 AM
United faith.................sorry if i say this, but it's some sort of neverending kind of thread.


Hitler jew ? What's his racial type ? :oanieyes


Peoples have the tendence to discuss about irrelvant (but intriguing) things...........so i foresee 20 pages of discussion on this thread.....(and no clear conclusion as usual) :oanieyes

Blood_Axis
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Hitler had been classified endlessly on related boards and the general consensus was "Noric", I believe.

Those "Hitler was a Jew" theories have never been substantiated with evidence. It is more than obvious why such an assertion would be made up for propaganda purposes.

Let alone it is ridiculous to claim that someone with a fully europid (and altogether 'german' looking) phenotype, is 'jewish', simply because he's...dark haired :oanieyes

Anyway, even if someone does have jewish blood, that would not necessarily be evident in his phenotype, especially if the admixture is small.

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Hitler had been classified endlessly on related boards and the general consensus was "Noric", I believe.

Those "Hitler was a Jew" theories have never been substantiated with evidence. It is more than obvious why such an assertion would be made up for propaganda purposes.

Let alone it is ridiculous to claim that someone with a fully europid (and altogether 'german' looking) phenotype, is 'jewish', simply because he's...dark haired :oanieyes

Anyway, even if someone does have jewish blood, that would not necessarily be evident in his phenotype, especially if the admixture is small.



Imo, your thread sinthetize about 200 posts written on several threads of the past years on different sites.................


Hitler is considered (by antifa) : Half jew, Homosexual, psychotic, impotent, megalomaniac.........why not a hint of Senegales blood from a unknown ancestor ?:D

Chakravartin
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Bah...:yawn

What is going on in that head of yours? Would someone who is Jewish really wage an all out war against Jewry? :oanieyes

He was not Jewish, he had both testicles, he was a heterosexual, and is definitely not alive now anymore. End of story.

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Oh, my God.........i forgot one of the most important theories....the : " one testicle hypothesis " :P:D.......

Blood_Axis
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:16 AM
It's just that this is a tiring discussion.

In the end, even if he did have jewish blood, let's say he did, so what's big deal? How does that affect his vision and his overall historical value (either positive or negative)?

See, I am also greek and I would gladly exterminate 6 million greeks..! :D :D :D

Viriathus
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:18 AM
Imo, your thread sinthetize about 200 posts written on several threads of the past years on different sites.................


Hitler is considered (by antifa) : Half jew, Homosexual, psychotic, impotent, megalomaniac.........why not a hint of Senegales blood from a unknown ancestor ?:D

You forget that he wasn´t vegetarian....... :oanieyes :D
Even if he had Jewish ancestry, who cares?

Flash Voyager
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:25 AM
You think he actually died too?
That's what they want you too believe. He was in fact abducted by aliens before his "suicide".

Blood_Axis
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:29 AM
You think he actually died too?
That's what they want you too believe. He was in fact abducted by aliens before his "suicide".
But they turned him into a kitten so that he won't be recognized and siezed by the allies.

http://www.kittenzone.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/2007-04-20-kitler.jpg

;)

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:30 AM
You think he actually died too?



INDEED. That's the major reason this thread is unusefull.

Hitler is in good health at the age of 118 years and lives happy in his farm in PATAGONIA with his 15 perfect wives created by his buddy Mengele.

(Or in ALPHA CANTAURI, alternatively. and 100 wives created by Vulcanians).

Viriathus
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:36 AM
INDEED. That's the major reason this thread is unusefull.

Hitler is in good health at the age of 118 years and lives happy in his farm in PATAGONIA with his 15 perfect wives created by his buddy Mengele.

(Or in ALPHA CANTAURI, alternatively. and 100 wives created by Vulcanians).

Naah, Hitler was last seen at the Copacabana in Rio de Janeiro. With a sombrero on his head and a Caipirinha at his hand. :betm1301:

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 10:47 AM
But they turned him into a kitten so that he won't be recognized and siezed by the allies.

http://www.kittenzone.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/2007-04-20-kitler.jpg

;)


Yeah.......what a secret ! (Now i understand the C.I.A. strange purpose i heard sometimes ago......a "castration project" for cats... :p;)

United Faith
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 11:12 AM
I didn't expect this thread to get so out of hand.

...I tried.... :oanieyes

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 11:20 AM
I didn't expect this thread to get so out of hand.

...I tried.... :oanieyes .


Don't be offended, United Faith :P.........you know peoples of this board have a strong sens eof humour.......we're like a loud companionship....(Robin Hood and his buddies.....:P)

Blood_Axis
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 11:25 AM
I didn't expect this thread to get so out of hand.

...I tried.... :oanieyes .
Oh come on, this was class A' trolling material. Who could ever resist that? :D

[edit] I just realized that this is in Anthropological Taxonomy, by getting the "message you typed is too short" error!!! :eek:

:o

IlluSionSxxx
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 02:04 PM
You think he actually died too?
That's what they want you too believe. He was in fact abducted by aliens before his "suicide".

Actually, in 1948 there was still no public story on what had happened to Hitler. Only later would he officially be declared dead. His body was never found. Hence, we will probably never be sure whether he really died or not.

Besides that, three of Hitler's grandparents are known and were or German origin. We only don't know who was the father of Hitler's father. Hitler's grandmother gave birth to his father while being an unmarried servant for rich families in Vienna and rumours state that the missing grandfather was actually a rich Jew she worked for.

Some even go as far as stating that rich Jew was a Rothschild and Hitler was nothing but an infiltrator in German nationalist circles who was destined to both build and sink the ship of German nationalism. Although Hitler started his political career as an army spy (see Mein Kampf), this story remains very unlikely. National-socialist Germany exposed much of the inner workings of Jewish power, American imperialism, British imperialism and communism. It would have been extremely unlikely if Hitler had actually been a Jewish pawn, though it is not possible. After all, he did do and say some strange things. For example, his trust in the Jewish-controlled British government at the time seems mindbogglingly naieve.

Still, we have no evidence for who really was Hitler's grandfather, neither do we have any evidence for Hitler being an enemy infiltrator. Until such evidence pops up, we can therefore only ignore both claims are mere fruitcake conspiracy theories.

Sigurd
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 03:04 PM
The two threads on Hitler's alleged Jewish ancestry have now been merged. ;)

Huzar
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 03:07 PM
The two threads on Hitler's alleged Jewish ancestry have now been merged. ;)



Now it's a real Troll thread........;)

Sigurd
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 03:08 PM
Now it's a real Troll thread........;)

Troll thread or not, what belongs together, belongs together. And if people think that discussing unfounded rumours about a statesman that passed on some time back is the way forward, who am I to stop them? ;)

SineNomine
Friday, October 26th, 2007, 04:13 PM
TBH, I do not see what the gain is in insisting that Hitler was a Jew, half or otherwise. What does this prove, assuming it were even true? Nothing.



Hitler jew ?
Hitlerjuden. :) Sorry, that just came to mind when I read that. Reminded me of Hitlerjungen.


It's just that this is a tiring discussion.

In the end, even if he did have jewish blood, let's say he did, so what's big deal? How does that affect his vision and his overall historical value (either positive or negative)?

See, I am also greek and I would gladly exterminate 6 million greeks..! :D :D :D
Bah, don't give your plans away so easily! :p

IlluSionSxxx
Saturday, October 27th, 2007, 11:24 AM
Silly Thread, Silly Topic, Silly Theory, Silly Sensationseekers.

As long as we don't know who really was Hitler's paternal grandfather, I guess these theories will remain... IMO, it's better to answer them with facts than to ignore them. Why let them add more to the already large pile of nonsense told about Hitler and national-socialism?

Beornulf
Saturday, October 27th, 2007, 09:13 PM
Hitler is alive and well. He was spotted the other week playing golf with Elvis. Things got a little heated when Stalin showed up claiming the course was in fact his.

IlluSionSxxx
Saturday, October 27th, 2007, 11:39 PM
Now this thread are 2 threads, it was already disproven on some pages before.

It was not disproven. There were some arguments against it. That doesn't mean it's proven either way.

Nevertheless, it doesn't really matter. His words and actions mean more to me than some obscure family secrect....

Sigurd
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 11:46 AM
It was not disproven. There were some arguments against it. That doesn't mean it's proven either way.

The burden of proof is on the one that assumes that something exists, not on the one that something doesn't exist. In fact, from a logical point of view, it would be almost impossible to prove that something doesn't exist whilst it should be a fairly reasonable request to ask to provide reliable sources for the odd conspiracy theory that something did exist.

IlluSionSxxx
Friday, November 2nd, 2007, 11:57 AM
The burden of proof is on the one that assumes that something exists, not on the one that something doesn't exist. In fact, from a logical point of view, it would be almost impossible to prove that something doesn't exist whilst it should be a fairly reasonable request to ask to provide reliable sources for the odd conspiracy theory that something did exist.

I'm just saying that we shouldn't call something disproven when there's simply no evidence either way. We don't know who really was Hitler's grandfather, but it is unlikely to have had any influence on Hitler's views, so it's really an issue quite unimportant to me.

velvet
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 03:26 PM
[Note: Discussion has been split and moved from here (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=47001).]


Fine, “Lebensunwerten Lebens” sounds better anyways.

If you use german words, you should learn to use them prober instead of blabbering the bs you picked up here and there about the ns 'rassehygiene' (which was very much a fantasy product btw).
Btw, Onkel Dolfi would have been the first to go to the oven according to his own rassehygiene. A half jew, mating with a jew and quite megalomanic (mental disfunction), too short; there would have been many reasons for him to be sent to the oven...

Oswiu
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Btw, Onkel Dolfi would have been the first to go to the oven according to his own rassehygiene. A half jew, mating with a jew and quite megalomanic (mental disfunction), too short; there would have been many reasons for him to be sent to the oven...I only hesitantly thanked your post because of this. Hitler had his faults, but the Jew smear is just that, a smear dreamt up by his enemies to discredit him. Don't believe everything you hear about him. I'm not his number one fan, but I don't subscribe to the mainstream propaganda either.

velvet
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 04:07 PM
I only hesitantly thanked your post because of this. Hitler had his faults, but the Jew smear is just that, a smear dreamt up by his enemies to discredit him. Don't believe everything you hear about him. I'm not his number one fan, but I don't subscribe to the mainstream propaganda either.

Oh, I dont believe everything I hear, but this one is true. It is one of the reasons why the standards for the Aryer-pass were set down, and Hitler didnt fit at all into his (own?) standards, as said, too short, dark haired, dark-brown eyed (not fawn/hazel like some of the nordids!).
Eva Braun was more than just a bit jewish, she wasnt welcomed in FHQ at all and for a very long time, Hitler hided his relation to her from other officials like Himmler.

He surely has his merits and also his good sides, but there's also a lot of contradictionary stuff which turns the whole 3d Reich concept in parts to a joke.
Anyway, I guess this is not the right threat to discuss that ;)

Gustavus Magnus
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Oh, I dont believe everything I hear, but this one is true. It is one of the reasons why the standards for the Aryer-pass were set down, and Hitler didnt fit at all into his (own?) standards, as said, too short, dark haired, dark-brown eyed (not fawn/hazel like some of the nordids!).
Eva Braun was more than just a bit jewish, she wasnt welcomed in FHQ at all and for a very long time, Hitler hided his relation to her from other officials like Himmler.

He surely has his merits and also his good sides, but there's also a lot of contradictionary stuff which turns the whole 3d Reich concept in parts to a joke.
Anyway, I guess this is not the right threat to discuss that ;)

Source for everything please. This is just the regular brainwashing propaganda.

velvet
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Source for everything please. This is just the regular brainwashing propaganda.

Proove me wrong ;)
Proof Hitler being not jewish, let him be classified by the experts here, and proof Eva Braun wasnt jewish, when you claim that's the common brainwash.

Jäger
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Btw, Onkel Dolfi would have been the first to go to the oven according to his own rassehygiene. A half jew, mating with a jew and quite megalomanic (mental disfunction), too short; there would have been many reasons for him to be sent to the oven...
From the view of the little weak people, everyone of greatness is attributed with megalomania, how could they even understand their thoughts.
Hitler was average height of his times, and if you cannot prove your accusations of being Jewish, you better remain quiet, rather than talking nonsense about the dead.
Hiter has been classified on Skadi many times already.

Nachtengel
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 08:19 PM
dark haired
His hair was medium brown and brown hair is quite common among Germanics.


dark-brown eyed (not fawn/hazel like some of the nordids!).Have you ever seen a photo of Hitler? Or read a physical description by eyewitnesses? I know it sounds like an unnecessary question, but everyone knows the obvious: he had blue eyes.

Gustavus Magnus
Sunday, April 19th, 2009, 09:36 PM
Proove me wrong ;)

No, prove yourself right.

I can come up with bullshit statements too, like for example Churchill was actually Chtulhu but with a mask. Prove me wrong.

Nachtengel
Wednesday, October 18th, 2017, 01:52 PM
British Historians: “Adolf Hitler's Tiny Deformed Penis was the Cause of the Holocaust”

The mainstream media is now citing a bizarre claim based off of dubious evidence that Hitler had a micro penis. They are also regurgitating the unfounded claim that Hitler had one testicle.

That sounds crazy enough, but they go further. Many of these articles are claiming that his small penis was the cause of World War II. The people writing this crap are an embarrassment to themselves and their profession.

From the Telegraph:

It has long been suspected that Hitler's conquest of Europe was an attempt to compensate for a lack of potency elsewhere.

But the notorious playground rhyme about his testicles appears to have only told half the story, as a book claims the leader of the Third Reich had a micropenis.

Hitler suffered from a condition called hypospadias which left him with an abnormally small manhood, according to historians Jonathan Mayo and Emma Craigie.

In their book Hitler's Last Day: Minute by Minute, they say they have uncovered medical records which confirm the Fuhrer's embarrassing deformity.

The condition is so severe that sufferers have to urinate from a hole at the base of the shaft, instead of the tip.

It comes just two months after a German historian said he had found proof that Hitler really did have one testicle, as per the famous 1939 playground ditty.

"Hitler himself is believed to have had two forms of genital abnormality: an undescended testicle and a rare condition called penile hypospadias in which the urethra opens on the under side of the penis," Mr Mayo and Ms Craigie wrote.

The discovery could offer some explanation as to why Hitler was allegedly afraid of being seen naked and the cause of his famed fits of rage.

It also likely to add fuel to the debate on Hitler's sex life - or lack thereof - which is fiercely contested by historians.

In his biography of Hitler, the British historian Ian Kershaw said the Austrian-born Nazi leader was repelled by sexual activity of any kind as he feared catching an infection.

However, there is evidence he had romantic encounters with a series of women in his lifetime, including his mistress Eva Braun, with whom he committed suicide on April 30, 1945. One German biographer, Heike Görtemaker, has insisted that the couple enjoyed a happy and healthy sex life.

Hitler's personal doctor, Theodor Morell, is also said to have diagnosed the Fuhrer with hypospadias and had prescribed him with hormones and amphetamines in an attempt to improve his sex drive.http://whiteresister.com/index.php/13-focus/1007-jews-now-claiming-that-adolf-hitler-s-tiny-deformed-penis-was-the-cause-of-the-holocaust

Hammish
Wednesday, October 18th, 2017, 07:35 PM
That he died in Berlin

https://i.imgur.com/Zy4rp.jpg?fb