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anfernee
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 07:06 AM
these are various members of my family.....what do you think each of them look

http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/tghthy2.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/bnhmmnmb.JPG http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/nnmnmhbmhbn%20copy.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/unclecopy.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/FDFDD.JPG

Nordgau
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 07:32 AM
Well, as you said, there is nothing with Mestizo or Mulatto, then I guess: Indian or Pakistani or something else in that direction.

Especially that guy in the above left photo looks Indian for me, if his skin colour doesn't seem more darker on the photo than it is in reality.

The other photos one could also take for very dark Southern Europeans, but after a second, closer look I dare to take them all definitely "out of Europe". They could all be Arabs for me, but as already said, that guy left pushes them all more into India for me.

I first wanted to allow that guy with the red shirt to slip through the meshes as Southern European type Dinaric, but that doesn't seem too likely for me after a closer look...

Evolved
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 10:50 AM
http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/tghthy2.jpg looks like a Paki
http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/unclecopy.jpg Middle Easterner and/or Jew
http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/FDFDD.JPG Middle Easterner.

I see people with Veddoid, Negroid and Mediterranean. Probably East-Middle Easterners or South Asians. According to a certain Greek supremacist, if you mix all the races together, you will get a Mediterranean out of it.

This could be a Kosher-Hindu family for all I know. :)

Loki
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 11:08 AM
Certainly non-European. I would say south Indian.

Loki
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 11:11 AM
On closer examination, I think there may be some South American mestizo strain in some... weird mix.

Nordhammer
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 11:12 AM
They are perfectly white and Europid! Don't you realize there is a range of skin tone among white people? One even looks blond! :D

Frans_Jozef
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 11:22 AM
these are various members of my family.....what do you think each of them look

http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/tghthy2.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/bnhmmnmb.JPG http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/nnmnmhbmhbn%20copy.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/unclecopy.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/FDFDD.JPG


A mixture of Armenoid-Indid elements, while the tall lateral built man with the white apron is a Atlanto-Mediterrenean, but aberrant in the width of his face, hence reflecting some Cromagnid strain.

anfernee
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 11:42 AM
how about this woman....(same one)

http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/uyyuyjuj%20copy.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/ththhh.JPG http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/hj8i.JPG http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/njhbnjhbhn.JPG

and this guy
http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/hrthg.JPG

Loki
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 12:21 PM
If they were several shades lighter of skin, I would have suggested an Armenoid origin - but, alas, their origin can certainly be traced much further to the east (and south) of the Caucasus...

Prodigal Son
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 01:36 PM
As a matter of fact, all these individuals are Southern Italians.

Loki
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 01:38 PM
As a matter of fact, all these individuals are Southern Italians.

How do you know?

Prodigal Son
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 01:39 PM
How do you know?

I know this guy from another forum (Racial Myths). He's posted those pictures before. He's a Sicilian himself.

Hi antonio! :-D Sorry to blow your cover, paisan!

Awar
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 03:30 PM
Maybe you're Gypsies?

I have a lot of friends who are Gypsies, and they sort of retain some veddoid characteristics more than Indians in India do. Also closely related Gypsies tend to have dozens of racial types in their family( all have some ved. characteristics ), ranging from Alpine, Mediterranean, Armenoid to total Veddoid.

Greeneyeddevil63
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 04:11 PM
They may be italian for the most part...


But...


There is a very dominant and stout Middle Eastern influence there... and i can't believe no one else is seeing it... but i could swear that i see also some jewish blood... especially in the black and white photo... that is jewish 1/4 to 1/8 mixed with white of some brand... with a distinct and very dominant middle eastern heritage... and I mean middle eastern as in... not necessarily indian... but most likely... saudi... or pakistani... with some jewish blood in there... i swear i see it. The origin of this family is middle eastern... period. Not only that... they are only one or two generations removed from the desert. American now.

There's white tossed in there somewhere, but i can't imagine where it came from. Then again... it could be the jewish blood peeking out.


Very diverse background there... extremely so... they're not pure anything... and most likely a mix of several things...

then again... that's just my impression... i am by no means an expert. however, that's what i see there.

rusalka
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 05:27 PM
how about this woman....(same one)

http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/uyyuyjuj%20copy.jpg http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/ththhh.JPG

and this guy
http://a.domaindlx.com/antonio144/hrthg.JPG

Sorry to have included the pictures but these are the ones I will be commenting on mostly.

If I didn't know anything else I would've said Southern Mediterrenean for these two people. I wouldn't be surprised to see either the woman or the man in, say, Spain. I remember from my Catalunya visit, there were a lot of people who looked like them, but of course it doesn't include a whole nation. Still, I think from most people's perspective they would fit in a Spanish, Portuguese or Southern Italian crowd.

As for the other pictures, the first couple of ones that were posted first; I would've definitely said that they were from somewhere in South America, most likely Brazil.

But since Eeendracht maakt mag blew the cover and we know they're from Sicily, there's not much point in my guessing and I'm not really good with phenotypes to go on with a sub-racial categorization :)

Hannah
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Sorry to have included the pictures but these are the ones I will be commenting on mostly.

If I didn't know anything else I would've said Southern Mediterrenean for these two people. I wouldn't be surprised to see either the woman or the man in, say, Spain. I remember from my Catalunya visit, there were a lot of people who looked like them, but of course it doesn't include a whole nation. Still, I think from most people's perspective they would fit in a Spanish, Portuguese or Southern Italian crowd.

As for the other pictures, the first couple of ones that were posted first; I would've definitely said that they were from somewhere in South America, most likely Brazil.

But since Eeendracht maakt mag blew the cover and we know they're from Sicily, there's not much point in my guessing and I'm not really good with phenotypes to go on with a sub-racial categorization :)


The first picture definitely has the appearance of an East Indian, while the man in the apron looks like a jew. The boy sitting on the chair looks like part white/mixed East Indian - or something along those lines.

Prodigal Son
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 09:50 PM
They may be italian for the most part...


But...


There is a very dominant and stout Middle Eastern influence there.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, but Southern Italians, are of at least half Middle-Eastern ancestry. That explains very well these Sicilians' phenotypes. As a matter of fact, Racial Myths banned antonio for posting pictures of 'questionable' Southern Italians.

anfernee
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 09:57 PM
I know this guy from another forum (Racial Myths). He's posted those pictures before. He's a Sicilian himself.

Hi antonio! :-D Sorry to blow your cover, paisan!
wait who is you? prodigal son maybe?

Prodigal Son
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 10:00 PM
wait who is you? prodigal son maybe?

Guilty :)

anfernee
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 10:05 PM
Guilty :)
ok who are you then?

Prodigal Son
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 10:06 PM
ok who are you then?

I am Prodigal Son. Hence the 'guilty'.

anfernee
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 10:08 PM
I am Prodigal Son. Hence the 'guilty'.
i thought that too until i looked it up in the dictionary
guilt·y [ gíltee ] (comparative guilt·i·er, superlative guilt·i·est)

adjective

1. responsible for wrongdoing: responsible for a crime, wrong action, or error and deserving punishment, blame, or criticism
He was guilty of a serious error of judgment.


2. law officially found responsible for crime: found and declared responsible for committing an offense by a court or other legal authority


3. ashamed of wrongdoing: aware of having done wrong or committed a crime and regretful and ashamed about it
I still feel guilty about having forgotten your birthday.


4. showing guilt: indicating or suggesting that somebody feels guilt, has done wrong, or has something to hide
a guilty look on his face


5. causing guilt: causing or likely to cause emotions of shame and regret
a guilty secret

Prodigal Son
Saturday, October 11th, 2003, 10:09 PM
antonio: I was being humorous.