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Agrippa
Friday, December 9th, 2005, 03:23 AM
V. Eickstedt included Dinarids into the "Bergrassengürtel" ("mountain race belt") and he was right saying that because the Dinarids and original Taurid forms in general are, or at least were, much more than Alpinoids, a specialisation for higher areas, mountains, hills and valleys, mostly living from animal husbandry.

Its interesting to compare the distribution of the Gemse (chamois) with Dinaroids and groups with Taurid influences (from West Baskid, Norid, Adriatid, Carpathid, Kaukasid-Armenoid) which have a certain habitat as well:
http://www.watzmanngams.de/html/oekologie_der_gemse/verbreitung.jpg

(probably someone has other maps of animals which live in the same habitat)

Maps for comparison:
http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php?p=290790&postcount=3

Topographic map of Europe:
http://www.gfk-macon.com/gfk_macon_news/img/europa.jpg

I think most of the later Dinarid and generally Taurid expansion out of the mountainous areas was secondary, but their original habitat and the environment and lifeform for "which they were made" was mainly being highland herders. Under them they survived in the purest form usually like in the Tyrolese herders and farmers of higher regions and the herders of the Balkan area. For some ethnic groups it was proven that they moved in fact from over wide distances (f.e. in Eastern Asia, v. Eickstedt wrote about that) to a similar habitat. (f.e. from highland to highland, from a fertile river valley to the next etc.) Originally a similar kind of expansion might have taken place in Europas past and lead to the Dinarisation of certain areas.

The distribution of Dinarids in higher areas can be confirmed for Austria more or less and Carpathian herders are mostly Dinaroid as well.
For Austria:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=42966

Nasal shape of Dinarids can be explained by looking at their habitat as well:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=43261

The Pamirid type, the Europid part of Turanids, strongest in Tajiks which live in higher areas as well shows obvious Dinariomorphic tendencies too.
Thread about Turanids:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=7180
Examples:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=36081

Even non-Europid forms living in a similar environment have at least partical similarities, though especially for South America the typical herder economy was not present in f.e. Andids, which show otherwise certain similarities.

Agrippa
Monday, February 6th, 2006, 06:43 PM
I made up a new thread about Taurids, both Dinarid and Armenoid spectrum and the process of a Dinarisation as well as "Dinaroid Bell Beakers" in the German section, there I added some more pictures and graphs:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=47945

This abstract might confirm the "process character" of Dinarisation (compare with Alpinisation):

Abstract
This essay is about the development of human populations in the central Balkans by tracing the brachycephalisation process during the Iron Age. One should emphasize that the oldest brachycephalic skulls were found in the osteological material from the Iron Gates. The brachycephalisation process was disrupted by the infiltration of other populations during the Roman and Migration period. However, while the full extent of the process became apparent in the late Middle Ages, the process itself has not stopped during the last two millennia and the outcome is the emergence of the Dinaric anthropological type as a substrate of the modern population of the region.
http://www.vml.de/d/inhalt.php?ISBN=3-89646-616-X