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Vojvoda
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 01:03 AM
"Wednesday night's disappointment(read: expectation) of losing 1-0 to Serbia in Belgrade was intensified by a catalogue of abuse directed against Wales' black players. The racist jibes from the Serbian supporters began in the Under-21 game the previous evening, where goalkeeper Jason Brown was subjected to monkey noises in the 3-0 defeat in Novi Sad. Then Danny Gabbidon, Nathan Blake and Robert Earnshaw all suffered similar attacks in the senior international at the Zvezda Stadium. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif

The Football Association of Wales made an official complaint to European football's governing body, demanding that action be taken. FAW secretary general David Collins had already relayed Wales' anger at the way their players were treated to match delegates Jean-Pierre Escalettes (France) and Franz Wohrer (Austria). Uefa examined reports from the referee, Anders Frisk, and its own match observers before announcing on Friday that the allegations will be dealt with at its next disciplinary committee hearing on 11 September. Gabbidon had an outstanding game despite the abuse and his display in partnership with Robert Page underlined Wales' battling, brave performance in the Group Nine qualifier. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif
"What happened out there and what Danny had to endure just shows what a fine performance he put in," Hughes said. "We had a problem the previous night in the Under-21 game and it is just not right. The wheels are already in motion to make a complaint to Uefa. "It's always disappointing when you hear it and it needs to be stamped out." Gabbidon's Cardiff team-mate Earnshaw, who nearly grabbed a dramatic equaliser but for a superb interception from Mladen Krstajic, was disgusted by the treatment of Wales' black players. "I heard it. Everytime Danny, Blakey or myself got the ball we heard it and it's just not acceptable in football. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif

"I was expecting it in a way, because you hear from other players how bad it is over this side of the world, but I was a little bit surprised how bad it was during the game."

-BBC

Stríbog
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 06:57 AM
I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: Eastern Europe has a far healthier racial instinct than Western Europe or Canada/US and Australia. If a European Renaissance is to occur, it will begin in Eastern Europe.

And what is it with this "stamp out racism" catchphrase everyone uses? It's got to be the most inane, clichéd anti-racialist jibe yet. Well, maybe "stop the hate" is still #1 in that regard.

Phlegethon
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 10:49 AM
I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: Eastern Europe has a far healthier racial instinct than Western Europe or Canada/US and Australia. If a European Renaissance is to occur, it will begin in Eastern Europe.

That may be.
Unfortunately Serbia is not eastern Europe.

Stríbog
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 01:32 PM
That may be.
Unfortunately Serbia is not eastern Europe.

How do you figure?

Phlegethon
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 01:47 PM
How do you figure?

Serbia is southern Central Europe.

Vojvoda
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 03:09 PM
Serbia is southern Central Europe.

You both are right.To some it's considered Eastern Europe, to others south central Europe or southeast Europe.

Anyway, would have The Welsh players complained about this if they had won? Probably not.

Phlegethon
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 03:14 PM
You both are right.To some it's considered Eastern Europe, to others south central Europe or southeast Europe.

According to all geopolitical, political and culture zonal theories Serbia is not a part of Eastern Europe.

Vojvoda
Monday, August 25th, 2003, 03:39 PM
According to all geopolitical, political and culture zonal theories Serbia is not a part of Eastern Europe.

Agreed.Which states would you consider Eastern Europe according to those theories?