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Agrippa
Tuesday, October 4th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Women's preferences for the male physique

By Strzałko J.

A group of young women were presented with a set of nine male silhouettes drawn in such a way that three depicted the extreme endomorphic, mesomorphic and ectomorphic body types; three the intermediate types; and three body types with a slight predominance of a given component (meso-, ecto- or endomorphic) over the other, evenly balanced, components. The silhouettes were fashioned after photographs from Sheldon. It was expected that the most mesomorphic ‘male’ somatotype would be chosen as the most attractive. Contrary to expectation, the silhouette that scored highest in attractiveness was the one having a balanced proportion of the three components with a slight predominance of ectomorphy. Hence, it represented a physique with moderately developed musculature and a rather slim build. This result supports the postulate that a significant factor of sexual selection leading to the development of sexual dimorphism in modern man was that of intra-sexual competition among males.

This article reminds me of another one:

Remarkably, among men, the low WHR-low SHR rival, that is, the rival with a linear and slender body build, evoked the highest level of jealousy and was perceived as the most attractive and the most socially dominant of all rivals.

Roughly speaking ectomorphic=slim, mesomorphic=muscular, endomorphic=fat.From:
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/ (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdienekes .blogspot.com%2F)
http://www.mzm.cz/Anthropologie/abstrakty/2003-1-2/03-1,2Strzalko.htm (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mzm. cz%2FAnthropologie%2Fabstrakty%2F2003-1-2%2F03-1%2C2Strzalko.htm)

Some ideas:

Moderate (sinewy) Leptosomics are taller too on average, tall and lean body is a sign superficial signal for activity, success and elite status, especially if the posture is good.

The association seems to be natural and based on certain personality traits which occur more often in the leptomorphic constitutional variants. In societies in which this personality traits are successful, which is almost everywhere with the exception of slow living, acting and thinking social-emotional oriented societies, so the association is clear.

Together with the physical advantages and height it explains the preference. The exception are, beside such "slow traditional", often starving societies, societies in which direct physical strength is of greater importance too - there (very) mesomorphic might be more preferred, which is in the West especially true for the lowest classes - where personality traits are not as important as physical dominance for low social-intelligence women.


Various threads important for that issue, especially the first two:

Kretschmer and Sheldon's Typologies (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=8778)
Lundmans racial body typology (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=37679)

Physical attractiveness and health in Western societies (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=40327)
The Typical Nordid Body Type (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=39434)
Somatopsychical Structures in Human Races (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=37644)
Modern War: a racial tragedy. The German example (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=38300)

itsallaroundyou
Wednesday, October 5th, 2005, 01:11 AM
It seems to me that a group of young women today have much different considerations in choosing a male than 8,000 years ago, or even 500 years ago. Their preferences can not necessarily be used to explain ancient evolutionary trends. This survey also does not mention how many women were involved in it or even by what margin this muscular ectomorphic was preferred.

nicholas
Wednesday, October 5th, 2005, 01:28 AM
It seems to me that a group of young women today have much different considerations in choosing a male than 8,000 years ago, or even 500 years ago. Their preferences can not necessarily be used to explain ancient evolutionary trends. This survey also does not mention how many women were involved in it or even by what margin this muscular ectomorphic was preferred.

what are womens preferences today?

Agrippa
Wednesday, October 5th, 2005, 01:34 AM
It seems to me that a group of young women today have much different considerations in choosing a male than 8,000 years ago, or even 500 years ago. Their preferences can not necessarily be used to explain ancient evolutionary trends. This survey also does not mention how many women were involved in it or even by what margin this muscular ectomorphic was preferred.

Agreed, thats far from perfect though it shows a tendency.

nicholas
Wednesday, October 5th, 2005, 04:22 AM
Agreed, thats far from perfect though it shows a tendency.

are the goals different or the methods? Ultimately on a biological level women crave protection and resources, yet in this time and in the american culture what do they crave? The question becomes more complicated when you take into account the various classes of people.

the typical trailer trash desires one thing, the daughters of wealthy CEO's desire another.

Agrippa
Wednesday, October 5th, 2005, 01:56 PM
are the goals different or the methods? Ultimately on a biological level women crave protection and resources, yet in this time and in the american culture what do they crave? The question becomes more complicated when you take into account the various classes of people.

the typical trailer trash desires one thing, the daughters of wealthy CEO's desire another.

Lets say it that way, the natural sinewy Leptosomic or Leptosomic-Athletic body type is usually the ideal at least in progressive leptomorphic racial types, its simply the most efficient model, as certain female features stand for fertility, this body type has the highest chances of being associated with balance and success for the reasons I mentioned above and others mentioned in the thread.
Cultural differences should come mostly from the different general perspective of a society, like having the ideal of a calm and cosy, wealthy and friendly type in a very poor, starving society, which would lead to a more endomorphic ideal more or less for compensation.

GreenHeart
Thursday, December 14th, 2006, 11:35 PM
what are womens preferences today?

Didn't you read the results of the study?


Hence, it represented a physique with moderately developed musculature and a rather slim build.

Anyway, I would imagine ectomorph would be the most preferred, I along with most other girls I knew in school prefer an ectomorph with a somewhat chiseled muscular appearance.

Why else would Brad Pitt be so popular with the ladies? :P


http://www.chefantasia.com/sfondi/Brad%20Pitt.jpg