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Glenlivet
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 02:05 PM
http://www.whitbyhs.cheshire.sch.uk/menai/menai2002/dailym/preview/photos/newsteampenpics/karl.jpg

Glenlivet
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 02:08 PM
I think this guy (not the same as the previous) has a typical Nord-Atlantid profile.
http://x7.putfile.com/9/26208075123-thumb.jpg (http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=9/26208075123.jpg&s=x7)

Agrippa
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 02:55 PM
I could agree but on the other hand I think his facial features are almost too Skandonordid, though he is in between. I still think Pierce Brosnan is a very typical example.

Huzar
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 08:43 PM
Here, what i consider very good example of North-Atlantid ( french actress Carole Bouquet).


http://tinypic.com/dw6m1i.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dw6nmu.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dw6nwp.jpg

Agrippa
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Really a nice one. :thumbup
But racially she might be too much Nordid-Mediterranid to be a typical Nordatlantid though she falls into this category.

Huzar
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 09:27 PM
Really a nice one. :thumbup
But racially she might be too much Nordid-Mediterranid to be a typical Nordatlantid though she falls into this category.


I understand what you mean : perhaps she is a bit too gracile (Gracile med influence) in some traits to be really typical, though she falls in the category, in the complex.


From what i've noted until now, you appreciate very much Atlantid/northAtlantid young female types.........;) :P

Agrippa
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 09:40 PM
I understand what you mean : perhaps she is a bit too gracile (Gracile med influence) in some traits to be really typical, though she falls in the category, in the complex.


From what i've noted until now, you appreciate very much Atlantid/northAtlantid young female types.........;) :P

All European types can have beautiful daughters, some are just more often and in a special way interesting. In fact I'm always looking more at the expression, physiognomy and body than at the pigmentation, though lighter eyes and medium skin with dark hairs can be quite interesting of course...

Huzar
Tuesday, September 20th, 2005, 10:16 PM
though lighter eyes and medium skin with dark hairs can be quite interesting of course...


I think light eyes are the most favourite trait for the major part of european men, effectively.

Milesian
Wednesday, September 21st, 2005, 04:50 PM
How about these?:

1) Theresa Lee Farrell (American, but name would suggest Irish ancestery)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/246431.jpg

http://www.nndb.com/people/505/000065310/terry1-sized.jpg


2) Chris Sutton (English)

http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.uk/content/mediaassets/images/chris-suttonWEB.jpg

http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.uk/content/mediaassets/images/sutton.jpg


Possibly Dinarid influence in Sutton?

Glenlivet
Friday, September 23rd, 2005, 09:57 AM
I am not sure. More pictures are needed. He is from NW England, where the type is quite common. One should also understand that there must be room for variation. I am not saying his features would be seen as obviously foreign in Scandinavia, but they are certainly not common. He does not fit in any Scando-Nordid type that I know of. But Nord-Atlantid is a Nordid type, so it should not look too Mediterranid. A fair-skinned and light-eyed Mediterranid is not the same as a Nord-Atlantid.

I also think that Mark Feehily is typical. Coon would probably call him Keltic Nordic.

http://www.click2music.fi/westlife/kuvat/markiso.jpghttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/prettyboysinpop/mark_g.jpghttp://www.fanmusical.net/westlife/imagenes2/markficha.jpg http://www.bbc.co.uk/birmingham/features/2004/10/westlife/images/westlife_150.jpg

http://www8.epochtimes.com/i6/4110749451078.jpg

http://www.webqueen.mobilixnet.dk/Westlife/Mark10.jpg


I could agree but on the other hand I think his facial features are almost too Skandonordid, though he is in between. I still think Pierce Brosnan is a very typical example.

Allenson
Friday, September 23rd, 2005, 02:23 PM
I've always seen Courtney Cox as a quintessential example of the North Atlantid type:

http://images.google.com/images?q=%22courtney+cox%22&hl=en


Ooolala! ;)

Huzar
Friday, September 23rd, 2005, 11:23 PM
I've always seen Courtney Cox as a quintessential example of the North Atlantid type:

http://images.google.com/images?q=%22courtney+cox%22&hl=en


Ooolala! ;)



I agree, Courtney is one of the most pleasent examples i know........
Although, my personal North Atlantid textbook type is Liz Hurley (:heartbeat ;) )


http://tinypic.com/dxzjhu.jpg

http://tinypic.com/dxzjix.jpg

dazed&confused
Saturday, September 24th, 2005, 01:03 AM
Jack and Meg White, scottish family, are what I call typical north-atlantid specimens, that's why their music kickz azz lol

http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/2003/November/19/Pics/06B%20White%20Stripes.jpg

QuietWind
Saturday, September 24th, 2005, 01:08 AM
Do you think Liz Hurley could be more sub-nordid? I can't tell with Jack, but I also think Meg White is something else-- not Nord-Atlantid.

Glory
Saturday, September 24th, 2005, 03:08 AM
I agree, Courtney is one of the most pleasent examples i know........
Although, my personal North Atlantid textbook type is Liz Hurley (:heartbeat ;) )
She is labeled Keltic Nordic at www.nordish.com (http://www.nordish.com)

dazed&confused
Saturday, September 24th, 2005, 01:43 PM
I can't tell with Jack, but I also think Meg White is something else-- not Nord-Atlantid.

let's say she's half Bruenn, half Nord-Atlantid.

Helleruin
Sunday, September 25th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Is it possible she ( Meg white ) has some alpinid characteristics as wel?:shutup or am i just being silly now?

QuietWind
Sunday, September 25th, 2005, 02:42 PM
Is it possible she ( Meg white ) has some alpinid characteristics as wel?:shutup or am i just being silly now? I think she does too.

Glenlivet
Sunday, September 25th, 2005, 07:20 PM
Steve Carell

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/03/21/ew.best.thu/office.jpg

http://www.the40yearoldvirgin.com/photos/3_800.jpg

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/53281588.jpg?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D050201094214317F8857160B5AF89 AC871D89374FCC94D2604A015CF9DF

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/53282626.jpg?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D050201094214317F8857160B5AF35 EAC2FC046751FF94D2604A015CF9DF

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/53360806.jpg?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D050201094214317F8857160B5AF96 6231D8A08EBEF294D2604A015CF9DF

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/53282631.jpg?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D050201094214317F8857160B5AF4B 45981FFE3B4B1494D2604A015CF9DF

misskitty
Wednesday, September 28th, 2005, 06:18 PM
How 'bout Cindy Crawford or Kristin Scott Thomas?

Night Ocean
Thursday, September 29th, 2005, 11:33 AM
Do you think Liz Hurley could be more sub-nordid? I can't tell with Jack, but I also think Meg White is something else-- not Nord-Atlantid.


SNPA classifies Liz Hurley as Keltic-Nordic

distinct_rebel
Friday, September 30th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Agrippa gave me an indication that my face might be welcome amongst these Nord-Atlantids....

Glenlivet
Saturday, October 1st, 2005, 02:01 AM
http://www.efestivals.co.uk/photos/reading/2005/Reading05-ArcticMonkeys-KW02.jpghttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/helenium/artic-close.jpghttp://www.efestivals.co.uk/photos/reading/2005/Reading05-ArcticMonkeys-KW01.jpghttp://forums.soundaloud.com/uploads/post-21-1105144387.jpg

http://www.arcticmonkeys.com/images/gallery/pic2.jpg
http://www.arcticmonkeys.com/images/gallery/pic4.jpg
http://www.arcticmonkeys.com/images/gallery/pic5.jpg

Alex Turner, the vocalist of Arctic Monkeys.

Glenlivet
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 01:56 AM
http://www.modculture.co.uk/gallery2/80s/sneakers/picture.php?img=18.jpg&show=full

Some young Nord-Atlantids from London. Dark picture, but all of them have the typical faces and bodies.

Gareth
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 08:56 AM
Great pictures, thanks for posting.

This Italo-Spaniard resembles the juveniles in the last picture:
http://dodona.proboards35.com/index.cgi?board=guess&action=display&thread=1128633545

I can recommend this homepage, many photos and anthropologic plates of modern Iberians, often the original Atlantid type:
http://club.telepolis.com/tropos/index2.html

Huzar
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Well, an italian face for north-Atlantids now.

http://tinypic.com/egb8ua.jpg

Agrippa
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 07:36 PM
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=40697
Sean Young seems to be pretty typical:

http://www.seanyoung.org/images/portraits/seanfire.jpg

http://www.jnautographs.com/captures/SeanYoung0206.jpg

http://www.thursdayschild.org/images/sean_young.1.jpg

Huzar
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 07:58 PM
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=40697
Sean Young seems to be pretty typical:



To be sincere, personally, i consider her Atlantomediterranid and not exactly NorthAtlantid. But the difference between these two types is very narrow, i think.............

Agrippa
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 08:06 PM
To be sincere, personally, i consider her Atlantomediterranid and not exactly NorthAtlantid. But the difference between these two types is very narrow, i think.............

Yes, the difference isnt too big obviously.

Agrippa
Monday, October 10th, 2005, 09:07 PM
Kyle MacLachlan:
http://pretallez.com/onstage/gallery/images/maclachlan_dune2.jpg http://www.czech-tv.cz/specialy/twinpeaks/foto/twin_peaks_4.jpg

Huzar
Monday, October 10th, 2005, 11:06 PM
I'm a Dune Fan too, Ag. ;)

Agrippa
Wednesday, October 12th, 2005, 04:25 PM
I'm a Dune Fan too, Ag. ;)

Yup, I like the original from Lynch, though not all seem to appreciate it in the same manner ;)

Glenlivet
Friday, October 14th, 2005, 01:42 AM
Paul Weller

http://www.pure80spop.co.uk/Images/poppics/paulweller.jpghttp://www.estudiocaos.com/molodoi64/paulweller.jpg

From a rockstar art gallery:

http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~punkstar/art/paul_weller/paul_weller.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gardenstudio/weller-live/2002.11.02a.jpg

Weg
Friday, October 14th, 2005, 03:45 AM
What about him?

http://www.abaton.de/images/%21pix/Brautjungfer-nachtsimAuto.jpghttp://azevszazadgyermekei.premierpark.hu/images/picmagimel.jpg

http://www.filmstills.at/images/klavierspielerin/standfotos/grosse/sigalevi_benoit_buehne1.jpg

Glenlivet
Friday, October 14th, 2005, 04:54 AM
I am not sure about his lower face. It is possible though. He is blonder than what one would expect from a Nord-Atlantid.

He appears to have Mediterranid (short distance between chin and mouth) and Dinarid (shallow jaw and a bit on the nasal shape?) traits, alongside predominantly Nordid. Liz Hurley has a similar lower face, but a more pointed chin.

He is probably closer to Coon's Keltic Nordic.

What is his name? Is he French?


What about him?

Weg
Friday, October 14th, 2005, 02:48 PM
I am not sure about his lower face. It is possible though. He is blonder than what one would expect from a Nord-Atlantid.

He appear to have Mediterranid (short distance between chin and mouth) and Dinarid (shallow jaw and a bit on the nasal shape?) traits, alongside predominantly Nordid. Liz Hurley has a similar lower face, but a more pointed chin.

He is probably closer to Coon's Keltic Nordic.

What is his name? Is he French?
Hmm hmm, I see. He's indeed French : Benoît Magimel. He was blonder when he was a teenager, but he's not that blond now...

Glynd Eastŵd
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Interested to hear what others think.

Digitalseal
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 05:54 PM
This man looks Atlanto-Mediterranid + Alpinid.

Thruthheim
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 05:59 PM
Aren't Atlantid types basically morphologically the same as any other Nordid, just less depigmented?

Glynd Eastŵd
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 06:19 PM
Aren't Atlantid types basically morphologically the same as any other Nordid, just less depigmented?

They are Nordid-Mediterranean mixes which have stabilised in some places (British Isles and North France, for example). If you look at this fellow, some of his features look closer to Nordid - leptorrhine nose, depigmented skin, thin lips, etc. But his moderately weak chin, dark hair and coarse facial hair are closer to Mediterranean phenotypes.

I think North-Atlantids can approach the Goeta type morphologically and are usually light-eyed (i.e. much closer to Nordid with minor Mediterranid admixture).


This man looks Atlanto-Mediterranid + Alpinid.

Where do you see Alpinid in him? I can understand some minor Cro-magnid influence, but I don't see anything Alpinid about him.

RedJack
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Aren't Atlantid types basically morphologically the same as any other Nordid, just less depigmented?
Yes. Supposedly because of admixture with Meds, yet Nordics can have brown hair and eyes.

Galaico
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Interested to hear what others think.
Quite good example IMO.

The Atlantid term is used to describe the Western mixture of Nordid and Mediterranid. It's a very relative term, Coon didn't even use it, he just differed the North-Atlantid as a Nordid-Atlantomed mixture where the Nordid element was predominant.

IMO, the question should be where's the border between Atlantomediterranid and Atlantid. The Atlantomed or robust West Mediterranid, is metrically Irano-Nordoid as the Nordid, and the main difference is pigmentation, and pigmentation is precisely the difference between Atlantid and North-Atlantid/Nordid, so where do we establish the frontier?

Glynd Eastŵd
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 07:40 PM
IMO, the question should be where's the border between Atlantomediterranid and Atlantid.
I've thought about the same question quite a bit. Some contest that the 'Atlantid' racial type actually exists, and that it is merely a political term, used to incorporate certain areas of Britain into the Nordish concept, to downplay the Mediterranean influence in Northern Europe. I've always looked at Atlantids as 'fairer' Atlanto-Mediterraneans. They have slightly lighter hair, skin, and eyes. Certainly, if you lined up Iberians against Welsh and Irish there would be some noticeable differences, but perhaps only minor. Height might be another thing.

I would very much appreciate Agrippa's opinion on this.

Agrippa
Sunday, June 11th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Pred. Atlantid with minor Alpinoid/Cromagnoid influence I'd say.

Concerning the debate, well, there are areas and individuals for which the Nordid contribution is obvious and its about those variants, especially the more stabilised ones, which fall into the Atlantid category, whereas the Atlantomediterranid proper doesnt have to be Nordid influenced, directly and clearly visible, but being just the taller, somewhat lighter, larger in size-dimensions and more robust boned Mediterranid variant which is by specialisation closer to Nordid.

Obviously the borders are fluent as always since especially along the Atlantic facade there is no clear cut border between the Mediterranid and Nordid spectrum. Its this intermediate spectrum of variants for which the term Atlantid should be used - which equates largely Nordomediterranid/Nordid-Mediterranid.

Georgie boy
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 05:20 AM
I think that the nord-atlantid race is more similar to keltic nordic than altanto-mediterranid.

Nicola_Canadian
Thursday, July 27th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Don't think that a Cromagnid admix present in this person has anything to do with North Atlantids...



Paul Weller

http://www.pure80spop.co.uk/Images/poppics/paulweller.jpghttp://www.estudiocaos.com/molodoi64/paulweller.jpg

From a rockstar art gallery:

http://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~punkstar/art/paul_weller/paul_weller.jpg

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gardenstudio/weller-live/2002.11.02a.jpg