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Northern Paladin
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 04:20 AM
Why Are The West and East So Different?

Why is it in Western Countries any hint of ethnic pride is regarded as the most heinous evil while in the East it is praised as the highest of Virtues?

Contrast America,Sweden,England,Germany,Holland the most liberal and multicultural countries in the world. To Russia,China,North Korea, and Japan. Why has the East been able to retain it's racial intergrity?

What will this translate into. Will the East be the New World Order?

Will the West be able to hold it's global dominance as it increasingly absorbs foreign elements?

Nordhammer
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 05:09 AM
Maybe people aren't paying attention... it's THE JEW. Lucky for me I don't let my enemies define my beliefs.

SouthernBoy
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Why Is Ethnic Pride A Virtue In The East But A Sin in the West? Multiculturalism and "liberal guilt."

Why has the East been able to retain it's racial intergrity?
The nations of the East haven't be affected by multiculturalism to the same degree that those in the West have been. They also have steadily growing populations; they lack the need for immigration.

Will the East be the New World Order?
Yes, I feel that China will become the next hegemon.

Nordhammer
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 05:24 AM
Multiculturalism and "liberal guilt."

The nations of the East haven't be affected by multiculturalism to the same degree that those in the West have been. They also have steadily growing populations; they lack the need for immigration.

Yes, I feel that China will become the next hegemon.

Did all this happen by accident, whites just all of a sudden decided to self-destruct on their own?

That's not true of Japan, Japan suffers from similar low birth rates, they could use a lot of immigration.

SouthernBoy
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 05:27 AM
Did all this happen by accident, whites just all of a sudden decided to self-destruct on their own?
Jews are an important factor, but individualism is also to blame.

Nordhammer
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 05:40 AM
Jews are an important factor, but individualism is also to blame.

Jews are the most important factor. We are an occupied country. People who fail to bring up the Jewish question are missing the most important issue concerning our people's survival.

SouthernBoy
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 05:52 AM
Jews are the most important factor. We are an occupied country.
I saw a bumpersticker that made me cringe today:


https://home.comcast.net/~waynebennett/photoholder/KinkyF.jpg

(I kid you not. This is an actual bumpersticker. :frown:)

infoterror
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 06:16 AM
Kinky Friedman is popular among some foolish Texans. On the surface of things, he's funny. A deeper look shows him to be the usual used-car-salesman middle eastern type, e.g. he has no solutions but will make you forget for a few hours - for a fee.

The main consciousness we need to raise about Jews is that they're not white. That plus a desire for ethnic separation will lead to Judaism being practiced elsewhere, and maybe their god will save them from its effects (doubtful).

infoterror
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 06:17 AM
Jews are an important factor, but individualism is also to blame.

I agree. People in the west got so caught up with their own comfort, their own desires and their own drama that they introverted entirely. Now they're not sure what they believe, and thus, all the parasites walk all over them.

Nat Socialist
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 06:18 PM
Because the West is terminally degenerate and largely in the hands of its deadly enemies. With the partial exception of Japan the East has not yet become significantly degenerate, nor have the Jews penetrated it. China will become the next superpower and the West will fall, followed by Russia.

Luh_Windan
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Jews in aggregate may have contributed plenty to the discourse that made ethnic pride a 'sin', but if you want important factors look to the ideas, not simply the people. The Jews did not one day sit down to devise a set of schemes to de-ethnicise the west; rather some adopted ideas and took up positions they agreed with, most having already been conceived by Gentiles for their own consumption.

Nordhammer
Saturday, August 13th, 2005, 10:58 PM
Jews in aggregate may have contributed plenty to the discourse that made ethnic pride a 'sin', but if you want important factors look to the ideas, not simply the people. The Jews did not one day sit down to devise a set of schemes to de-ethnicise the west; rather some adopted ideas and took up positions they agreed with, most having already been conceived by Gentiles for their own consumption.


Right... and who first came up with the word racism? It must have been a gentile according to you. Wrong, it was a Jew. America had race-based citizenship laws and anti-miscegenation laws up to the 20th century. Guess which group worked to overturn those laws? Wasn't the gentiles! So many apologists for Jews, it's amazing.

Ymir
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 02:18 AM
I saw a bumpersticker that made me cringe today:

https://home.comcast.net/~waynebennett/photoholder/KinkyF.jpg

(I kid you not. This is an actual bumpersticker. )


Hahaha, I saw one of those on the back of a pickup the other day. My Spanish teacher said she was voting for him during the next elections. It doesn't bother me, he can't be worse than what we have now.

Luh_Windan
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 03:07 AM
Right... and who first came up with the word racism? It must have been a gentile according to you. Wrong, it was a Jew. America had race-based citizenship laws and anti-miscegenation laws up to the 20th century. Guess which group worked to overturn those laws? Wasn't the gentiles! So many apologists for Jews, it's amazing.
Do you have any reason to think I've overlooked these things? I know about the idea of racism and I know about the history of political activism within the Jewish community. This doesn't conflict with what I said. That a group may support a position like that disproportionately certainly makes them a lousy bunch, no argument there, but it does not make them the most important factor. That is no argument.

SouthernBoy
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 03:39 AM
Hahaha, I saw one of those on the back of a pickup the other day. My Spanish teacher said she was voting for him during the next elections. It doesn't bother me, he can't be worse than what we have now.
I would rather have another neoconservative, than a Jew.

Nordhammer
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 07:36 AM
Do you have any reason to think I've overlooked these things? I know about the idea of racism and I know about the history of political activism within the Jewish community. This doesn't conflict with what I said. That a group may support a position like that disproportionately certainly makes them a lousy bunch, no argument there, but it does not make them the most important factor. That is no argument.

Your statement:

"The Jews did not one day sit down to devise a set of schemes to de-ethnicise the west; rather some adopted ideas and took up positions they agreed with, most having already been conceived by Gentiles"

I disagree, and history shows that organized Jewry has made tremendous effort to change our culture and perception of sexuality and race/ethnicity. Your statement is backwards. Rather Jews have created all of these ideas, and gentiles have adopted them because of their naivete, submissiveness, self-destructive altruism, greed, and other reasons. Who has the greatest protection in white countries? Who owns the international banks? Who writes all these hate laws? Who has us at war in the Middle East? Jews are the foremost threat to our traditional way of life and the survival of our people. Anyone who misses this point has made a gross miscalculation.

Nordhammer
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 07:38 AM
I would rather have another neoconservative, than a Jew.

Neoconservatism is a Jewish creation. There is fundamentally no difference between a Neocon and a Jew. The foremost Neocons are Jews.

Thusnelda
Monday, August 15th, 2005, 02:45 AM
In this case, the West has much to learn from the far-east...like Japan. They are very aware of their homogenious population and society. And they drives very well with it.
European nations have lost the fate, I hope they´ll someday regain the old power of faith and honour for themselves and their heritage.

Schutzstaffelor
Monday, August 15th, 2005, 02:50 AM
i don't think ethnic pride is a trait only associated with the far east. virtually every group other than europeans share such sense of ethnic identity/pride/consiousness/etc.

Luh_Windan
Thursday, August 18th, 2005, 07:09 PM
Rather Jews have created all of these ideas, and gentiles have adopted them because of their naivete, submissiveness, self-destructive altruism, greed, and other reasons.
This is a rather extraordinary claim which I don't even see the most hardened of American WNs claiming. You really don't think Hegel, Sartre, the SCOTUS and the thousands of other gentile philosophers of the past few centuries have had any original thoughts which may have contributed?

EVEN IF every single concept leading up to the problem had come from a peculiar Jewish mindset, the ideas are still the important factor, not the people. If ideas can be identified as demonstrably harmful they will fall out of favour. That is a much better strategy than harping on the Jews, for as logic would dictate, if Jews are in control as you suggest and are responsible for all these ideas, they will obviously never be touched so long as their ideas predominate. What possible benefit is there to be had in putting the focus on the people? Silliness.

Northern Paladin
Thursday, August 18th, 2005, 09:03 PM
There is a certain responsiblity that comes with complacency. WASPs and Jews are a team.

Nordhammer
Friday, August 19th, 2005, 11:27 AM
EVEN IF every single concept leading up to the problem had come from a peculiar Jewish mindset, the ideas are still the important factor, not the people. If ideas can be identified as demonstrably harmful they will fall out of favour. That is a much better strategy than harping on the Jews, for as logic would dictate, if Jews are in control as you suggest and are responsible for all these ideas, they will obviously never be touched so long as their ideas predominate. What possible benefit is there to be had in putting the focus on the people? Silliness.

One would really have to be a fool to ignore the vast power of organized Jewry, and ignore that as the foremost problem confronting the West.

It's silly to confront ideas without following them to the source, and dismantling the power structure from which they emanate. If a faucet is on and the water has overflowed to the floor, you don't endlessly mop up the water, you turn off the faucet. That is the problem with the majority of our so-called patriots fighting the "new world order." They never name who these people are. They are so terrified to even say the word Jew.

Nordhammer
Friday, August 19th, 2005, 12:58 PM
The main consciousness we need to raise about Jews is that they're not white.

Their affect on our society is more important, but I do agree that people thinking Jews are "one of us" is just another tool they use against us. They are not of European descent, tho Jews have existed in Europe for generations. They are Asiatic, of Middle Eastern descent. They are no more white than Arabs are. Genetically they are more related to Arabs and other Asiatics than to Europeans.

Luh_Windan
Friday, August 19th, 2005, 04:10 PM
One would really have to be a fool to ignore the vast power of organized Jewry, and ignore that as the foremost problem confronting the West.

It's silly to confront ideas without following them to the source, and dismantling the power structure from which they emanate. If a faucet is on and the water has overflowed to the floor, you don't endlessly mop up the water, you turn off the faucet. That is the problem with the majority of our so-called patriots fighting the "new world order." They never name who these people are. They are so terrified to even say the word Jew.
Ideas are not like water. You can refute them and they go away, regardless of the source. I already precluded that analogy anyway, as in this case the water makes it impossible to turn off the faucet.