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Polak
Sunday, August 10th, 2003, 08:56 AM
http://www.springerlink.com/app/home/search-citations.asp?wasp=78gvujvtqrnda90gxj7w (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spri ngerlink.com%2Fapp%2Fhome%2Fsearch-citations.asp%3Fwasp%3D78gvujvtqrnda90gx j7w)

Excellent site for straight scientific reports. Use the search engine to find info on specifc populations (Polish, German or whatever), or genes (for example, R1a).


http://website.lineone.net/~usenet_evidence/gene_legacy/ (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebsite. lineone.net%2F%7Eusenet_evidence%2Fgene_ legacy%2F)

Good overall article on European Y-chromsome markers.


http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/PNAS_2001_v98_p10244.pdf (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhpgl.sta nford.edu%2Fpublications%2FPNAS_2001_v98 _p10244.pdf)

Excellent article about the relationship between Europe and Asia in terms of the Y-chromosome.


http://web.unife.it/progetti/genetica/Giorgio/PDFfiles/pnas1998b.pdf (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.unif e.it%2Fprogetti%2Fgenetica%2FGiorgio%2FP DFfiles%2Fpnas1998b.pdf)

Old article, but still pretty useful.


http://www.dienekes.com/blog/ (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dien ekes.com%2Fblog%2F)

Good site for first hand genetic reports. But try and avoid the opinion pieces, which are heavily biased in favor of Greeks.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?holding=npg&cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11381027&dopt=Abstract (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi .nlm.nih.gov%2Fentrez%2Fquery.fcgi%3Fhol ding%3Dnpg%26cmd%3DRetrieve%26db%3DPubMe d%26list_uids%3D11381027%26dopt%3DAbstra ct)

http://www.trinicenter.com/WorldNews/castesystem.htm (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trin icenter.com%2FWorldNews%2Fcastesystem.ht m)

http://www.niagara.com/~jezovnik/forum_veneti_part_ii.htm (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.niag ara.com%2F%7Ejezovnik%2Fforum_veneti_par t_ii.htm)

Very intersting articles on the links between Eastern Europeans, Indian Aryans, and the proto-Indo-Europeans.


http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/EJHG_2002_v10_521-529.pdf (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhpgl.sta nford.edu%2Fpublications%2FEJHG_2002_v10 _521-529.pdf)

A report on Norwegians, with some intersting observations about overall European genetics as well.


http://camelot.lf2.cuni.cz/funkovai/ublg/pdf/kelticz99eng.pdf (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcamelot. lf2.cuni.cz%2Ffunkovai%2Fublg%2Fpdf%2Fke lticz99eng.pdf)

Czech genetics, with some good info about Celtic genes in Europe.


http://web.unife.it/progetti/genetica/Giorgio/PDFfiles/ajhg2003.pdf (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.unif e.it%2Fprogetti%2Fgenetica%2FGiorgio%2FP DFfiles%2Fajhg2003.pdf)

The genetic legacy of the Mongol invasions.


http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2002_v70_p192-206.pdf (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fhpgl.sta nford.edu%2Fpublications%2FAJHG_2002_v70 _p192-206.pdf)

Fascinating article about the genetic relationship between Eurasia and North America.


http://www.kerchner.com/bga-proj.htm (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kerc hner.com%2Fbga-proj.htm)

An interesting theory about how East Asian genes (?) made their way to Germany.

Loki
Sunday, August 10th, 2003, 04:20 PM
Thanks for these helpful links, Polak.

Here is one more I got hold of, which you probably have seen yourself:

http://www.nature.com/cgi-taf/DynaPage.taf?file=/nrg/journal/v4/n8/full/nrg1124_fs.html

http://www.nature.com/nrg/journal/v4/n8/images/nrg1124-f1.gif

http://www.nature.com/nrg/journal/v4/n8/images/nrg1124-f2.gif

http://www.nature.com/nrg/journal/v4/n8/images/nrg1124-f3.gif

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Tore
Monday, August 11th, 2003, 08:30 PM
http://website.lineone.net/~usenet_evidence/gene_legacy/

Do all the Eu haplotypes correspond to hg haplogroups?

If so, am I correct in stating that:

hg 1=Eu18
hg 2=Eu7
hg 3=Eu19
hg16=Eu14
hg 26=Eu17 (?)
hg 22=Eu8(?)
hg 9 + hg 21= Eu 4 + Eu 9 (?)
hg 12=Eu16
hg 8=Eu 21 or Eu 1 (?)

Loki
Friday, August 29th, 2003, 11:56 AM
I have stuck this thread, so we can continue to add genetic links to it... and it can thus serve the purpose of a helpful resource.

Loki

Loki
Friday, August 29th, 2003, 12:18 PM
Do all the Eu haplotypes correspond to hg haplogroups?

If so, am I correct in stating that:

hg 1=Eu18
hg 2=Eu7
hg 3=Eu19
hg16=Eu14
hg 26=Eu17 (?)
hg 22=Eu8(?)
hg 9 + hg 21= Eu 4 + Eu 9 (?)
hg 12=Eu16
hg 8=Eu 21 or Eu 1 (?)

Does this help in any way?

Tore
Friday, August 29th, 2003, 10:53 PM
Does this help in any way?

Sure does. :)

Thanks Loki! :prost

Polak
Saturday, August 30th, 2003, 07:45 AM
Well this a link that should definitely be in this thread...

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/home.html

One of the best resources on the net, originally pointed out by Tronder in another thread.

Polak
Tuesday, September 2nd, 2003, 03:15 PM
A fascinating study of the British Isles, with a few other populations, like the Frisians, included...

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/98/9/5078.pdf

Loki
Tuesday, September 2nd, 2003, 06:31 PM
A fascinating study of the British Isles, with a few other populations, like the Frisians, included...

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/98/9/5078.pdf

Fascinating indeed. From this sampling, one can immediately make a few deductions:

1) The Welsh/Irish and the Basques are very similar genetically.

2) The Orkney samples seem to be devoid of HG16... which could mean that the intake of HG16 in the Norwegian population may have happened after the Viking period.

Tore
Tuesday, September 2nd, 2003, 11:30 PM
2) The Orkney samples seem to be devoid of HG16... which could mean that the intake of HG16 in the Norwegian population may have happened after the Viking period.

Perhaps.

Another possibility is one in which the concentration of Norwegian Hg 16 has been centered in the Northern periphery, where one can assume that mixing with the Lapps has been most prevalent.

Polak
Friday, September 5th, 2003, 11:03 AM
A report on one of the DNA tests available for the public. The mug shots at the bottom of the report are pretty interesting.

http://www.chalberweid.ch/DNAPrint/DNAWitness2.0.PDF

Polak
Friday, September 5th, 2003, 04:52 PM
A very detailed report on European mtDNA types...

http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~macaulay/papers/980656.web.pdf

Dr. Solar Wolff
Tuesday, September 30th, 2003, 07:30 AM
Let me ask you genetics experts a question: Is there any mtDNA or DNA evidence for non-sapiens (Neanderthal) in any European population. If there is any, please keep it simple I do Hardy-Weinberg, Sarich & Wilson type things but not advanced biochemistry.

Polak
Tuesday, September 30th, 2003, 08:50 AM
Let me ask you genetics experts a question: Is there any mtDNA or DNA evidence for non-sapiens (Neanderthal) in any European population. If there is any, please keep it simple I do Hardy-Weinberg, Sarich & Wilson type things but not advanced biochemistry.


Not that I know of.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, September 30th, 2003, 07:22 PM
Let me ask you genetics experts a question: Is there any mtDNA or DNA evidence for non-sapiens (Neanderthal) in any European population. If there is any, please keep it simple I do Hardy-Weinberg, Sarich & Wilson type things but not advanced biochemistry.


I think they mixed but those mixed breeds died out for one reason or another.

friedrich braun
Friday, October 24th, 2003, 05:51 AM
I think they mixed but those mixed breeds died out for one reason or another.

The persistence of two populations with separate identities over a long period, with no signs of hybridization, suggests that Neanderthals and Homos Sapiens belonged to separate species.

Polak,

thanks for those links.

Are you aware of any good, recent texts on population genetics? Even a compilation of articles would do.

Furius
Saturday, August 6th, 2005, 08:47 AM
There are some interesting articles on genetics at
http://jorde-lab.genetics.utah.edu/elibrary/ (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjorde-lab.genetics.utah.edu%2Felibrary%2F) (in PDF format).


Includes:

- Microsatellite diversity and the demographic history of modern humans.

- Genetic traces of ancient demography.

- Female gene flow stratifies Hindu castes.

- Race-specific HIV-1 disease-modifying effects associated with CCR5 haplotypes.

- Deep common ancestry of indian and western-Eurasian mitochondrial DNA lineages.

- Using mitochondrial and nuclear DNA markers to reconstruct human evolution.

- Inferring demographic history from DNA sequences.

- Population structure and history in East Asia.

- Genetic Evidence on the Origins of Indian Caste Populations.

- Patterns of Ancestral Human Diversity: An Analysis of Alu-Insertion and Restriction-Site Polymorphisms.

Angelcynn Beorn
Wednesday, May 10th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Let me ask you genetics experts a question: Is there any mtDNA or DNA evidence for non-sapiens (Neanderthal) in any European population. If there is any, please keep it simple I do Hardy-Weinberg, Sarich & Wilson type things but not advanced biochemistry.

As far as i know, no. But bear in mind that DNA tests on the direct ancestors of modern aborigines also found that those samples outside the range of modern humans. So it looks as if the genetic test being used to determine whether there was actually any interbreeding are, so far, unreliable.

Louky
Wednesday, March 7th, 2007, 11:16 PM
Would anyone have a link to some information on the average percentage of non-European genetic material in Europe; non-East Asian genetic material in East Asia, etc?

I entered a discussion with someone who is asking for sources and I have no source for my argument but my memory.