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Evolved
Saturday, December 27th, 2003, 10:20 PM
The people have asked about this thread for some time, although they expected someone else to post it. http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon12.gif

I've been looking at pictures of people from this region of the world for awhile, and I have to say, 99.99% of Iranians are not 'Nordid' at all. These are the best examples I can find. I scoured the net. I looked at more photos of Iranians than the CIA counter-terrorism task force. I'm sure there are some more Nordish Iranians somewhere. http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon7.gif

http://www.persianfootball.com/gallery/photos/players/Aastoo_Mohammadi.jpg
Mohammadi (?) [posted by Zvaci]

http://www.nostalgia.4t.com/images/1953.most.chic.wom.in.germany.jpg
'1953, Iranian woman chosen as the classiest woman in Germany'

http://www.iranian.com/Nostalgia/2000/April/Images/panahi.jpg
Farang Panahi Zati, 17-year-old from Rasht, Miss Iran Teen Princess contestant, 1978

http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3078
Some guy from Tehran

A lot of old pictures can be found here (http://www.iranian.com/nostalgia.html).

Slightly off topic: Iranian women's traditional regional clothes (http://www.salamiran.org/Women/Dress/). Regional/ethnic illustrations.

Awar
Saturday, December 27th, 2003, 11:04 PM
Nothing surprising.

Odin Of Ossetia
Sunday, December 28th, 2003, 12:07 AM
Nothing surprising.



If only 00.01% of the population look like the two men; the women don't classify as Nordic by any stretch of imagination.


Besides, neither of the two "Nordic" guys have blond hair; nothing surprising indeed in Iran.

Awar
Sunday, December 28th, 2003, 12:12 AM
And, you'd know that because..........

torrent
Sunday, December 28th, 2003, 12:27 AM
Coon is cool, Coon is great. btw that blond tehrani guy looks a bit robust, now i understand what Volks mean, is there any information about that tehrani guy? he looks somewhat familiar.

Evolved
Sunday, December 28th, 2003, 02:46 AM
http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=6336
Is he supposed to be a Nordic Iranian? They come in shades of brown there, I guess. http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon10.gif

Evolved
Sunday, December 28th, 2003, 03:18 AM
Coon is cool, Coon is great. btw that blond tehrani guy looks a bit robust, now i understand what Volks mean, is there any information about that tehrani guy? he looks somewhat familiar.

I think half the male population of Iran has sent me an instant message on Yahoo. http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon11.gif I have no idea about his ancestral background, he just said he's from Tehran. I would *guess* his family is from the Northwest where there are Azeris and other Turkics. I posted his photo a while ago maybe that is where you saw him.

I don't think we can use European standards of 'blond' on Iranians. Most of them have very thick blackish hair, and sometimes with a weird crispy texture:

http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821&stc=1&thumb=1 (http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821)

I don't imagine they do much anthropological studies there.

goidelicwarrior
Tuesday, December 30th, 2003, 02:32 PM
The people have asked about this thread for some time, although they expected someone else to post it. http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon12.gif

I've been looking at pictures of people from this region of the world for awhile, and I have to say, 99.99% of Iranians are not 'Nordid' at all. These are the best examples I can find. I scoured the net. I looked at more photos of Iranians than the CIA counter-terrorism task force. I'm sure there are some more Nordish Iranians somewhere. http://www.forums.skadi.net/images/icons/icon7.gif

http://www.persianfootball.com/gallery/photos/players/Aastoo_Mohammadi.jpg
Mohammadi (?) [posted by Zvaci]

http://www.nostalgia.4t.com/images/1953.most.chic.wom.in.germany.jpg
'1953, Iranian woman chosen as the classiest woman in Germany'

http://www.iranian.com/Nostalgia/2000/April/Images/panahi.jpg
Farang Panahi Zati, 17-year-old from Rasht, Miss Iran Teen Princess contestant, 1978

http://www.forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3078
Some guy from Tehran

A lot of old pictures can be found here (http://www.iranian.com/nostalgia.html).

Slightly off topic: Iranian women's traditional regional clothes (http://www.salamiran.org/Women/Dress/). Regional/ethnic illustrations. Perfect surviving examples of the Aryans that spread into Persia and Northern India betwen 3000- 1500 bc, Iran means the land of the aryans.. blondism is not the most important criteria.. but more skull shape and morphology, off course light skin, eyes and hair is are of importance ... note their high long skulls, straight nose..

Nordgau
Tuesday, December 30th, 2003, 04:06 PM
http://www.nostalgia.4t.com/images/1953.most.chic.wom.in.germany.jpg
'1953, Iranian woman chosen as the classiest woman in Germany'


Is that Empress Soraya? (I think it's her.) Soraya, born in Iran, was actually a diplomat's daughter, she was half-German and half-Iranian.

As Empress (between 1951 and 1958):
http://www.rasscass.com/images/portrait/soraya_esfandiaribachtiar_s.jpg

Soraya:
http://www.bakhtiaritribe.net/empresssoraya.gif

Soraya in 1986:
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,141780,00.jpg

ScotchTape
Sunday, January 25th, 2004, 03:33 AM
MohamedReza Golzar
http://www.geocities.com/persian_inf/mohamadreza_golzar.jpg

mahtabeh-keramati_behesht
http://www.geocities.com/persian_inf/mahtabeh-keramati_behesht-.JPG

Roya
http://forum.epars.net/gallery/Iranian-Celebrities/Pegah-Manijeh-Roya-2.jpg

Niki Karimi
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/January/Images/karimi.jpg

Agrippa
Sunday, January 25th, 2004, 03:41 AM
The Aryan element in Iran is the Nordindid (Indo-Afghan) type which can be sometimes partially depigmented too and is in my opinion a very close relative to the Nordid (Hallstatt and Troender; Corded in special) and Atlantid type.

But really Nordid cant be found to often in Iran even if they would have migrated their (what I dont think is for sure either) they must be very mixed.

But their is quite light Nordindid element in Eastern Iran which represents a local "Aryan" variant.

Taras Bulba
Sunday, January 25th, 2004, 05:14 AM
Not bad pictures. I bare some resemblence to the guys in the first and last pictures. Only I have brown eyes, not blue.

Agrippa
Sunday, January 25th, 2004, 05:19 AM
If I would see them without knowing where they from I would call them "Russian" Eastern Nordics probably with slight, very slight Dinarid/Armenid admixture. (Pic 1 and 2)

Taras Bulba
Sunday, January 25th, 2004, 05:26 AM
If I would see them without knowing where they from I would call them "Russian" Eastern Nordics probably with slight, very slight Dinarid/Armenid admixture. (Pic 1 and 2)
Well I'm largely Ukrainian. But Ukrainians have mainly Iranian features.

Betman
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 02:51 AM
SORRY I CANN'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL,BUT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY;) Iranians are not nordid.be sure.maybe just .001% of them show some nordic characteristics.but they are also very mixed.having aryan ancestors 2500 years ago does not mean you are also aryan.Just look at Finns,Magyars and Bulgars,they have mongolian ancestors but now the only thing you can see at their population is some very rare mongolian elements,or the other examples are latins.ancient latins were nordic but now italians or spanians are meditranian.or greeks or many other examples.many of the germans have NOT enough german blood to be called german(and i hate it because it's not so important for a latin to be nordid,they are medits who are living at a medit culture,but german culture is made by german race).there is an important rule about the races.nordic race always disapears between the other races,this is happening in america in less than one century and you can see it.nordics are going to be overthrown.germans,oh excuse me NAZIS tried to stop this terrible process but the world stopped them.how many people of the yellow race are living in our world?how many samis or arabs?or the negros?but a pure aryan can just be found at scandinavia,germany and some parts of europe and america.but not for a long time! in sweden,germany and other german countries native population does not want to have kids,but what about emigrants?60 years ago germans knew this is going to hapen one day.the beautifull world called them evil because they wanted to protect their race.jews were very successful to protect their funny race,they had right to do that,but our moral world believed that germans have no right to do this.it's very funny.nordics are going to be distinct.

Awar
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 02:55 AM
Ad Hominems Removed.

Odin Biggles
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 03:47 AM
"Iranians are not nordid.be sure.maybe just."

Your english is very good but this confuses me no end :suspect.

Betman
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 04:08 AM
"Iranians are not nordid.be sure.maybe just."

Your english is very good but this confuses me no end :suspect.

I mean:"be sure that iranians are not aryan"
"MAYBE JUST" is not a sentence,that point is not a fullstop:" maybe just a few of them(#0.001% of them)...":onfire

Glenlivet
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 05:00 AM
Northern Iranians are according to Lundman mainly Pontid. It is not surprising that they would have features similar to Corded and even some forms of Trönder (but the narrow eyes are very different, which is probably of some Palaeolithic origin).

The picture of Mohammad Reza Golzar is of a man with probably dyed hair and eyebrows. I think that he could pass for some Italian.

Mahtab Keramati look Pontid to me. She is probably from the province Gilan.

Probably 99 % of "true" Nordid individuals in Iran are from recent immigrants. I know what I talk about here. There are a few Russian (or ethnic minorities from Russia, nonetheless from regions with on average much fairer and taller people) families there. Russia fought a war with Iran over Caucasus and people were displaced. These families (except a few that you can count with the fingers) have been absorbed by mainly the Azeri and Gilaki population. Rasht, the province capital of Gilan have been occupied by Russia several times in history. The last time was at nearly the end of WW2.

I think that the typical Iranian (maybe from the central parts) look like this man:

http://www.shahramshabpareh.com/

There are of course great regional differences in a country that is 3-4 times the size of bigger European countries. However, Nordid (or even fair East Baltids!) is rarely something ancient. When it is not from foreign ancestry we are usually seeing something pseudo-Nordid, where the individual is brachycephalic with a fair Noric-like look, and never with physical traits derived from Palaeolithic NW European derived Nordids.





But really Nordid cant be found to often in Iran even if they would have migrated their (what I dont think is for sure either) they must be very mixed.

But their is quite light Nordindid element in Eastern Iran which represents a local "Aryan" variant.http://www.aryana.co.uk/aryana/main2.htm

norda
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 10:19 AM
http://www.geocities.com/persian_inf/mahtabeh-keramati_behesht-.JPG

Very beautiful example of Aryan ancestry :)

norda
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 10:52 AM
...There are of course great regional differences in a country that is 3-4 times the size of bigger European countries. However, Nordid (or even fair East Baltids!) is rarely something ancient. When it is not from foreign ancestry we are usually seeing something pseudo-Nordid, where the individual is brachycephalic with a fair Noric-like look, and never with physical traits derived from Palaeolithic NW European derived Nordids.


Well yes but on the other hand skull and face features of Iranians are frequently more “Nordid/Corded" looking than many European UP survivors.
Well I can see similarities to Corded Slavs.
http://img131.exs.cx/img131/1082/Iranian-figures-01.jpg
btw As far as I remember from Lundman Iranians are one of the highest headed Europids.

Glenlivet
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 03:48 PM
Corded alone is not a Scando-Nordid. Coon wrote, "There is one cautionary remark which must be made here, and that is: there is so far no justifiable reason for assuming that the Corded people were Nordics. Their cranial type, as we know it, does approach one ore more of the forms which we know, in later times, to have been associated with blondism; but it also approaches those of the Iranian plateau and of Ur, which were probably brunet. Let us withhold judgment, therefore, upon Corded soft parts and pigmentation, and view these remains in the more scientific but less lively light of a skeletal type."

http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/chapter-IV9.htm

Also Russians have something else and the immigrant families in Northern Iran of Russian ancestry look very different not only because of lbeing (much) fairer but they also have some robust Palaeolithic features. There is something else besides Corded in the Trönder-approximative (=West-Baltid) type in Latvia. It is probably the element that Raisa Denisova wrote about, she wrote, "an anthropologically similar group of peoples lived from the Netherlands in the West to the Middle Russian highlands to the East. Local residents may have been possessed of the morphological elements of ancient Northern European peoples, whose roots were linked to the late Paleolithic populations of Europe."

The similar element as Corded in northernmost Iran do look more like the sporadic sharper featured individuals among Eastern Europeans, but they are often too dark for being compared with Poles, but one can occasionally see people that can pass for having some traits in common with people of the eastern Balkans. Lundman's SW Scandinavian (where Göta is derived) folk stock and his "closely related" West Elbe (also called "fäliska"=Phalian) folk stock are according to him derived from "Cro-Magnid proto-groups". His proto-Indo-European East-Nordid were indeed high-skulled (HLI over 74), that Gaston Backman, Eickstedt and Lundman thought of as now being almost disappeared. Aistin in SW Finland and W Estonia is a variety of the East-Nordids.

I do not know if he ever wrote that they are the most highest headed Europids. He has a picture of an Iranian East-Med (who look Pontid, and under the picture he wrote observe the very high skull and there is an exclamation mark) I know that Taurids have according to Lundman a Height-Length Index (HLI) of approx. 78-80! East-Baltids are almost as high-skulled.

His progressive, dark eastern Europids or "kaspaner" (Caspians), or eastern Mediterranids, are long-headed and dark. They are made up of Pontid, Saharid, Indid and Afghanid sub-races. The East-Nordids are according to him except the head height "extraordinarily" (translated from the word "utomordentligt") similar to West-Nordids. He also wrote that "that it would in another draw up ("uppställning") been lead to a West-Nordid sub-race. He wrote of two sub-races (underras, German unterrasse), an aistin in W Finland and Estonia, and an arin, spread in eastern Europe and western Asia, both tall.

I believe that the physique that you think of is like Larijani (although he has some minor Taurid traits too):
http://www.irib.ir/shomavasima/8022/pic/h/h8022-jame%20jam(larijani)02.gif
http://www.iranvajahan.net/english/pictures/en.20030817..5.jpg

You can see the high vault Taurid derived vault in another example too, in that of the Iranian singer below,
http://www.bia2.com/wallpaper/artists/ghomayshi-2-1024.jpg




Well yes but on the other hand skull and face features of Iranians are frequently more “Nordid/Corded" looking than many European UP survivors.
Well I can see similarities to Corded Slavs.
http://img131.exs.cx/img131/1082/Iranian-figures-01.jpg
btw As far as I remember from Lundman Iranians are one of the highest headed Europids.

norda
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 09:48 PM
Of course Corded is not a synonym of Scando-Nordid but no doubt Corded types reached Scandinavia and left there clear genetic and anthropologic trace.
Generally speaking Iranians are genetically Europid/Semitic mixes so observing Corded types among them is not really good idea. Moreover Corded Iranian speakers (Scytians) on the north of Caucasus were probably of different genetic stock.
I have scanned two Lundman’s maps. Though its not morphologic height but indexes its still interesting and good material to discussion.
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/9264/hbI.jpg
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/7281/HLI.jpg
source: B. Lundman, „Geographiche Anthropologie,
Rassen und Volker der Erde“, Stuttgart 1967

I can see scull height as a progressive Mesolithic or rather Neolithic trait; though, thanks to genetics, we know about Palaeolithic sources of European population.
btw in purest form preserved in Northern Europe.
Swedes vs Cro-Magnon
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/6479/hei.jpg
and general Cro-Magnon comparison
http://img111.exs.cx/img111/608/461.jpg

The reason of general east-west difference in HLI is still not so obvious for me. Probably it should be connected with isolation both groups in glacial refugee areas. In such case- Iranian or “Pontid” connection is quite probable.
On the other hand there are still doubts how stable are anthropologic traits and what is mechanism of heredity. Its good to mention here that Mesolithic and Neolithic German/Danish skulls were considerably higher then skulls of later “early Germanics”.

yamato
Monday, November 15th, 2004, 11:34 PM
a good example of a nordid looking iranian is rudi bakhtiar, the CNN news anchor
http://www.gogomag.com/rb/x___rudibakhtiar.jpg

http://image02.webshots.com/2/1/61/37/46416137mnjUZD_ph.jpg

http://image02.webshots.com/2/1/62/5/46416205KQewic_ph.jpg

Glenlivet
Monday, November 15th, 2004, 11:41 PM
She's Taurid.


a good example of a nordid looking iranian is rudi bakhtiar, the CNN news anchor

dehook
Wednesday, November 24th, 2004, 03:54 AM
I think quite a few pure Nordid types still exist in Iran. I've heard that there is a law against intermarriage between members of different racial groups, ie, Aryan Iranians are prohibited by both their families and the law from marrying non-Aryans. This tradition has been in effect since prehistoric times, and I have been told that it is still practiced today. I'm not sure how true that is, but that's what I've heard anyway.


Here are some photos of Nordid Iranians:

http://www.iranian.com/Arts/July97/Turkman/Images/Photo42.jpg

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr5b_files/Qashqai_Fars_South_Iran_Girl.jpg

http://members.cox.net/allempires/Gilaki.jpg

Also, if you got to http://www.arianmusic.com/, which is the web site for the Iranian band "The Arian Band", go to the "Photo" section, and you will see photos of band member Ali Pahlavan. The site is in flash, so alas I can't post the links to the images. It should be pretty easy to figure out which one he is...very blue eyes.

Ali Pahlavan is a good example of what some of the original Iranians/Aryans looked like. I say this because the letter "P" is not found in the arabic alphabet, so I'm guessing that his lineage is descended from the original Aryan inhabitants. I'm not saying that all white Iranians with an Arabic/Muslim name are mixed; contrary to popular belief, Islam was not forced onto the Iranians by Arabs. Most Iranians had become sick of the tyrannical rule of the Sassanid Dynasty and the ruling Zoroastrian clergy, and wanted something new, and they found that in Islam.

OraclePhilosophy
Wednesday, November 24th, 2004, 05:36 AM
To Dehook

Actually Islam was forced on the Iranians this would explain the Parsi of India of the area of Parsis. They were Zoroastrian Iranians who migrated to escape Islamic persecution, and those who did not escape Iran moved to very remote desert villages of the country.:) ;)

Glenlivet
Wednesday, November 24th, 2004, 04:32 PM
I've heard that there is a law against intermarriage between members of different racial groups, ie, Aryan Iranians are prohibited by both their families and the law from marrying non-Aryans. This tradition has been in effect since prehistoric times, and I have been told that it is still practiced today. I'm not sure how true that is, but that's what I've heard anyway.

That is the first time I hear about that. Upper class Iranians have basically the same lifestyles as many Western European populations. Persians, save for the minorities in the southern Caspian coast, Mazandaran and Gilan, are not really fair at all. They have often gracile bodies, medium stature, brunet, olive complexions, thick black eyebrows , black (often curly, sometimes very wavy, and rarely straight) hair, medium to dark brown eyes with a minority who got mixed, green or blue eyes. Light eyes and/or hair does not always come with fair skin. The has been talks of proto-Nordid among the Kurds by English anthropologists like Francic Huxley.

Depigmentation among Iranians is actually associated with rural regions and the fair upper classes have almost as a rule NW Iranian (mainly Gilaki or Azeri) and/or Caucasus or Russian ancestry (from the Cossacks too). This is clear if one study the history (from 250 years back to the present) of migrations to the northern regions.



Here are some photos of Nordid Iranians:

http://www.iranian.com/Arts/July97/Turkman/Images/Photo42.jpg

They are fair, but not Nordid though. Those are obviously from the northeast, perhaps even Afghani.



http://members.cox.net/allempires/Gilaki.jpg

Nice looking, and I would think that she's Pontid.

ScotchTape
Thursday, November 25th, 2004, 02:19 AM
have a look through this website's iranians of the day. They are iranians nominated to be the 'iranians of the day'. Not 1 did I see that even looked remotely Nordic. Anyone else might have better luck :D

http://www.iranian.com/photos.html

To illustrate my point, the first 10 people.
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/mo.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/fri.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/bahram.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/ch1.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/wat.jpg
The woman on the left looks 'nordish' i guess. Mazandran, Iran
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/paint.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/daee.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/reza.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/November/Images/dad1.jpg
http://www.iranian.com/PhotoDay/2004/October/Images/pom.jpg

Shapur
Saturday, November 27th, 2004, 02:17 PM
Very interesting thread. But what should I say?
We have had thousand of discussion such like that!
Fact is that Iranians are mostly Taurid/South Corded.
Taurid=South Corded+Alpinid.
The Alpin admixture is more in the north of the Iranian world.
This is maybe an admixture from early proto-Slavs which were really pure Alpinids.
But it is funny to read everytime when there are some Iranians who look a bit European, oh what real Aryans.
Fact is how you want that we have genetic studies which show what Iranians are and what the are not. They are Caucasoids and their most genetic relatives are the central Europeans, southeast Europeans, Indians and some Arabs.
But all of those relatives don`t show that Iranians are a bit Indian, Semitic or European, they show more that Iranians are one of the last real Aryan bastions of the world, beside central/southeast Europeans who look and act like their ancestors.

cyrusdariush
Tuesday, December 28th, 2004, 12:05 AM
go to iranian singels(website). you cant see not single brown or arabian looking people.

Telperion
Tuesday, December 28th, 2004, 12:54 AM
This thread no longer really fits with the forum's new focus, so I am closing it accordingly.

Northern Paladin
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 03:16 AM
Do they exist?

Imperator X
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 03:40 AM
Do they exist?
Jawohl, there is some info about them here.
http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/texts/greekmorphological/

http://dienekes.angeltowns.net/texts/greekmorphological/n.jpg

I saw an Iranian terrorist with pale skin and green eyes on Newsweek a while back.

QuietWind
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 04:36 AM
I think there are some interesting specimens on this site:
http://www.gavle.to/~kaveh007/iranian_girls_1.htm

Look at this one:

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=37480&stc=1



Also, my husband has an Iranian friend who has been classified as a robust UP. The guy describes his family as all being Nordish looking (I.e. blonde cousins, light eyes, etc.) I 'm not sure about the percentage of Nordish Iranians. I bet Glenlivet would have that information. :)

varangian_guard
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 04:51 AM
http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Minorities/min-Tatar-2.jpg



Chinese Tatar, Xinjiang Autonomous Region

ScotchTape
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 10:29 AM
I think there are some interesting specimens on this site:
http://www.gavle.to/~kaveh007/iranian_girls_1.htm

Look at this one:

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=37480&stc=1



Also, my husband has an Iranian friend who has been classified as a robust UP. The guy describes his family as all being Nordish looking (I.e. blonde cousins, light eyes, etc.) I 'm not sure about the percentage of Nordish Iranians. I bet Glenlivet would have that information. :)


Those girls arent persian models. Many are european and lebanese. I dont see the point of people posting pictures of lebanese women and trying to pass them off as Iranian.

QuietWind
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 03:22 PM
Those girls arent persian models. Many are european and lebanese. I dont see the point of people posting pictures of lebanese women and trying to pass them off as Iranian.
The site says they are Iranian. I don't read Arabic. I would have posted a photo of my husband's friend, but I don't have a good one.

Berserkin_Dwarf
Monday, August 8th, 2005, 10:48 PM
this is a class picture of my friend Ibraham, from tehran I do not know if he fits the bill but his father was from Iran and his mother pakistani.

:fiq:

android
Thursday, November 17th, 2005, 11:32 AM
I think there are some interesting specimens on this site:
http://www.gavle.to/~kaveh007/iranian_girls_1.htm (http://www.gavle.to/%7Ekaveh007/iranian_girls_1.htm)

Look at this one:

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=37480&stc=1



Also, my husband has an Iranian friend who has been classified as a robust UP. The guy describes his family as all being Nordish looking (I.e. blonde cousins, light eyes, etc.) I 'm not sure about the percentage of Nordish Iranians. I bet Glenlivet would have that information. :)

Eastern Meds