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Imperator X
Friday, August 5th, 2005, 04:34 AM
I obviously have an interest in European nationalism, National Romanticism, and NS/Nationalist militaria and propaganda/posters as well as flags and other emblems. I would get a repro of a Nazi propaganda poster (especially that one of the soldiers marching with the luftwaffe flying overhead, the soldier and the flag which is one Skadi member's avatar.) but I was wondering about people getting riled up over it because certainly a number of people I associate with are not exactly sympathetic to NS militaria, taking things at face-value and not being able to look deeper.

I was wondering if any people here display any Nazi militaria or paraphenalia in the open, in their homes. What are your attitudes toward people who wouldn't be able to understand? Do you just figure 'No compromise, if they can't handle it, f*** off' or do you make compromises?

I like this forum for its ability to approach racialism and political ideologies with intellectualism and restraint. There a number of people here who blend their knowledge of political ideologies, history, literature, art, and history with other unique ideas that are not typical of what many would associate with Nazi skinheads and hools.

Requiem
Saturday, August 6th, 2005, 02:21 AM
No, I enjoy the look of it, but frankly my family and most friends would be offended by it. Any use of it in public I believe is utterly degenerate, no person will change their opinions if they see a swastika flying, and negatives opinions will become more dominant. It's not a matter of whether or not we can see beyond face value, it's whether the public can. And they can't.

Aleksander D. G
Sunday, August 14th, 2005, 04:53 AM
I collect Nazi Guns Lugers Walthers Mausers I have a pretty sizeble collection all in at least "Collectors" New Condition and all cost a shitload of money

northwind
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 12:52 PM
Who Cares What They Think !

Josep Conrad
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 01:27 PM
I collect song, I mean military marches from European armies from WWI to the end of WWII and patriotic songs and of course I listen to them, I collect pieces of uniform, badges and "combat-flags" and I have displayed them at home where I can enjoy my collection, if any visitor feels "surprised" a good "conosseiur" should introduce him or her into the misteries of colour and simbology, into the ancient archarns of mithology, and always keep in mind that an object whatever it is always is a "replica" of other, as the svastika.

Draco
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2005, 03:18 PM
I'd hate to cheapen my beliefs into that of a fad or hobby by having "paraphenalia".

Other than my books and pictures from NS Germany I found emotionally inspiring or just aesthetically pleasing (so many to pick from really!) which are visible to anyone who enters my apartment you won't find anything. Just have no desire to trivialize the Third Reich into something to be collected and displayed like trophies.

The people we look up to (Hitler, Heydrich, Rosenberg, etc.) were not collectible cards, but human beings fighting for their people who had real dreams, emotions, and lives.

If you can be buy the "toys" and still feel true, then fine. But when someone says one morning, "Wow, Hitler is cool!" and runs out and buys a ton of repro junk, it makes everyone look bad.

Imperator X
Wednesday, August 24th, 2005, 01:22 AM
I'd hate to cheapen my beliefs into that of a fad or hobby by having "paraphenalia".

Other than my books and pictures from NS Germany I found emotionally inspiring or just aesthetically pleasing (so many to pick from really!) which are visible to anyone who enters my apartment you won't find anything. Just have no desire to trivialize the Third Reich into something to be collected and displayed like trophies.

The people we look up to (Hitler, Heydrich, Rosenberg, etc.) were not collectible cards, but human beings fighting for their people who had real dreams, emotions, and lives.

If you can be buy the "toys" and still feel true, then fine. But when someone says one morning, "Wow, Hitler is cool!" and runs out and buys a ton of repro junk, it makes everyone look bad.

So these books and pictures, are they repros?

Draco
Wednesday, August 24th, 2005, 01:41 AM
So these books and pictures, are they repros?

Of course. The information is the same, so why pay more?

QuietWind
Wednesday, August 24th, 2005, 02:15 AM
I would guess that a great number of people ( especially on a forum for Germanic Preservation) would have at leat one thing that is "Nazi related" even if it be only a book about WW2, such as The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich. Even my mother who is the biggest multiculturalist, anti-nazi, etc. at least has a couple of books about WW2 and the Nazi's-- granted, most of her books are things such as The Diary of Anne Frank. It is easy to simply say, "yes, I do have some books sitting right on my bookshelf." But then, as I mentioned above, many people do these days.

I know that what you are really asking is how many people wear those bright red shirts out in public that have a giant "bull's eye" swastika on the front and radiate the subliminal message "Kick my @$$, I'm a Nazi." Or how many people wear those Nazi boots with the little swastikas carved in the sole so that when you go out and commit a crime, your "fingerprint" is all over the ground.:D Okay, so maybe you aren't asking to that extreme.

I think in today's society a person must use discretion. You cannot put yourself out there or you will lose your career, your education, and your family. Does this mean hiding your beliefs? No. It means being selective and knowing when and when not to share those beliefs. I once had to do a book report for a class on an autobiography. Can you guess what I chose? It was a fascinating book that depicted the internal struggles of a man and provided insight into the development of his ideology as he moved into adulthood. I actually had someone follow me to the parking lot after class, full of questions, and asking to borrow the book.

My husband is much more demonstrative than I am. He's got things right down to his computer desktop-- with little swastika icon buttons and everything. Funny story (or not so funny)...... We had the cable guys coming to hook up our cable phone, and my husband's computer is situated beside the phone. I turned the monitor off because they were coming. When they came (two Mexican-American males), they had to hook up the phone to the same place as the internet, which meant that they had to reset the internet connection. I was staying out of the room they were in, but the one guy flipped on my husband's monitor in order to check out the reset internet. Right about that point, I walked into the room because they were finishing up, just in time to see them both wide eyed and in a state of shock. They did not say one word, neither did I, and they hastily got me the papers to sign so they could high tail it out of here. I signed the papers, thanked them, and acted as though I had no clue what the problem was. They left awfully fast, without even checking the internet on his computer--even though they claimed to. I think they were too stunned to actually make sure it was back in good working order. :P My husband and I had a good laugh, speculating about what stories they were probably concocting to tell their buddies about the "Nazi." Now I have my husband turn off the computer, not just the monitor, if strangers are coming into the house. Other than his computer, the average person who enters our house, would not see any "Nazi paraphenalia" other than some WW2/Hitler/Nazi books that happen to be in a book shelf of historical books such as The Vantage Point, Queen Victoria, and The Origins of the English People. ( I group my books in my collection according to bookshelf.)

Ventrue
Friday, September 9th, 2005, 02:27 AM
"Corporate image" - read this in a book on propaganda. Every idea, every nation, every religion and so on needs a "corporate image" because most people aren't rational, they won't read up on the facts, they need certain things that seduce them.

What is it? It's things like flags, symbols, songs, poetry (yes), portraits of heroes, monuments, holy sites (like that holy mountain in Japan), fairytales, dances, language, expressions, buildings (oh yes, very important, as they give such a permanent appearance). And books and plays and movies and such of course.

So I am very much in favor of showing people a corporate Nationalist image. But unfortunately it can't be the swastika. It symbolizes a side that lost a war, and that makes people run screaming. They don't want to be on the losing side.

White Nationalism needs another symbol. We already have a great deal of corporate image actually, like "the 14 words", music, history, heroes. But we need a good symbol. The Life Rune is good, and Thor's Hammer is also good. Also the sunwheel.

Greenwood
Friday, October 21st, 2005, 02:34 AM
I have got a few Nazi-era reichmarks and pfennigs from ebay that have the eagle and swastika on one side.

Imperator X
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 09:09 PM
Did you hear about how they discontinued auctioning Nazi paraphenalia on Ebay because Jews were whining about it?

Mjölnir
Sunday, October 23rd, 2005, 09:42 PM
National Socialism is not a way of life. It is in yours.. Your Blood and your Soil. For me its my life but i didnt wearing a "Swastika" T-Shirt all Day and Night and Scream loud as hell "Sieg Heil" all that time.

When you look in my Eyes YOU KNOW WHAT I AM.:evil

M.,:D

PS: My Swastika is near by my Heart and its about 75 years old..
PPS: Please for further investigations take "NS" not "Nazi" because we are more than evil propaganda!

GreenHeart
Wednesday, October 26th, 2005, 11:07 PM
No, I don't feel the need to hang swastika flags and life size posters of Adolf Hitler... :D

But I do have a celtic sunwheel flag (plus the rebel flag, and German state flags we havent gotten around to hanging up yet), and also an old nazi propaganda poster in an inconspicuous place. I also have a rune picture that I made and a wooden tree of life, and a wooden plate with a viking ship, a viking poster, and the poster of the painting "Godspeed" by Edmund Blair Leighton.

My husband is also going to build a Jule stand for us this year.

I'd rather display things that do more to convey my germanic pride.

GreenHeart
Wednesday, October 26th, 2005, 11:20 PM
I have got a few Nazi-era reichmarks and pfennigs from ebay that have the eagle and swastika on one side.

I have also got some of those, given to my husband and I by a older person who had saved them from that era. We also have a swastika pin that would have been worn by the wehrmacht. They are all carefully stashed away in a black velvet box though, except for those Zwei Millionen reichsmarks... :D

I'm going to frame it soon. I'm pretty fanatical about everything having a frame. :)

Leofric
Thursday, October 27th, 2005, 06:21 AM
My grandpa lived in Germany from 1935 to 1938. He was working as a minister at the time. He loved the people in the congregations he was working with, and loved what they loved, and he brought back lots of mementos of his time with them. Since they loved the NSDAP, he had a lot of what would get called "Nazi paraphernalia" among his mementos. He displayed them proudly and would gladly talk with us or anyone else about his time working in Germany. I remember one day he excitedly told me about being at a parade and standing no more than five yards from Hitler as he passed by.

He was part of the US military effort during the war, teaching navy men in San Diego who were going to the Pacific theater. My father told me that as they would hear radio reports toward the end of the war of bombings in Germany, Grandpa would cry and cry.

For me, "Nazi paraphernalia" is entirely associated with loving memories of my grandfather and the stories he would tell about his time in Germany. I feel warm inside and comforted and loved when I see the eagle perched atop the swastika, or the flag of the Third Reich, or anything of that sort.

So no, I wouldn't have any problem displaying such things in my home, especially if I were to inherit them from my grandfather.

Bricktop
Thursday, October 27th, 2005, 09:16 AM
Most of my friends know I love Nazi propaganda posters so I have no problems with it. They know I'm not a Nazi (well.. I'm not) so they understand why I have them - because of my keen interest and love of propaganda art.