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Evolved
Wednesday, August 6th, 2003, 05:06 AM
http://www.davidchokachi.com/candids/hugobossopening.jpg
http://www.davidchokachi.com/gallery.html

David Al-Chokhachy is 5'11, natural hair color is dark brown, blue-green eyes. His mother is of Scandinavian-American descent and his father is Turkish. I think he looks predominantly Fälish. :idolize

CelticLover
Wednesday, August 6th, 2003, 05:11 AM
:inlove :inlove

Where do you find these guys, LG?? :drool :lick

Oh, it's the Baywatch dude. The last name seemed familiar to me...

I am definitely bookmarking that site :wsg

Marduk
Wednesday, August 6th, 2003, 05:24 PM
His Turkish father may be not too uralic-featured.

Tore
Wednesday, August 6th, 2003, 10:13 PM
His Turkish father may be not too uralic-featured.

Do you not mean Altaic?

Regardless, the "mongoloid" component in Turkey is seen more through language than race.

Genetically, they cluster with other Near Eastern Populations.

Nordgau
Wednesday, August 6th, 2003, 10:41 PM
The same can be said of the Anglo-Saxon component among the Negroes in America. I don't think that the English-speaking brothers in da hood are the descendants of the warriors of Hengist and Horsa. :rofl :bounce :rofl

Stríbog
Thursday, August 7th, 2003, 12:17 AM
The same can be said of the Anglo-Saxon component among the Negroes in America. I don't think that the English-speaking brothers in da hood are the descendants of the warriors of Hengist and Horsa. :rofl :bounce :rofl

To a smaller extent they are; American Negroes are 28% European genetically...

Nordgau
Thursday, August 7th, 2003, 05:36 PM
To a smaller extent they are; American Negroes are 28% European genetically...

28%... interesting. I always estimated the Europid element among the American Negroes, without knowing detailled numbers, to be about 25%, generally.

But if you consider that this European element is only partly English, and that the English element is only partly from Anglo-Saxon ancestry (pre-Anglo-Saxon inhabitants, Danish Vikings, Normans...), the ancestry line of the Negroes back to Hengist's and Horsa's troops get really thin. :D

Nordhammer
Thursday, August 7th, 2003, 09:45 PM
28%... interesting. I always estimated the Europid element among the American Negroes, without knowing detailled numbers, to be about 25%, generally.

But if you consider that this European element is only partly English, and that the English element is only partly from Anglo-Saxon ancestry (pre-Anglo-Saxon inhabitants, Danish Vikings, Normans...), the ancestry line of the Negroes back to Hengist's and Horsa's troops get really thin. :D

According to this study, the national average is around 16-17%.

http://www.erin.utoronto.ca/~eparra/profile/PDF%20files/Parra%20et%20al.%201998.PDF

Also interesting is that blacks in the North have more white admixture, and also the highest admixture rate is found with blacks who were under French rule, not Anglo-Saxon or British rule. So again, more evidence that Mediterraneans mix more.

New Orleans shows the highest m
value of the cities studied (22.5%), which deserves special
attention. The history of the Louisiana territory has
been quite different from the history of other southern
regions in the United States. This area was under French
rule for a substantial period, until it became part of the
Spanish territory in 1763 and, finally, of the United
States some decades later, in 1803. Both the geographic
origin of the slaves imported to Louisiana and their
status during the French domination have been distinct
from what happened in the southern British colonies
(e.g., South Carolina). There have been historical accounts
of more substantial intermixture in the New Orleans
area (Williamson 1995; Piersen 1996), so this
could partly explain the observed differences in ancestral
proportions between Charleston and New Orleans.

We also determined the extent of the African contribution
to three European American populations from
several areas in the United States: Detroit, Pittsburgh,
and Louisiana (Cajuns). The presence of the FY null
allele in the three populations clearly indicates an introgression
of African genes into the European American
gene pool, but the African contribution globally seems
to have been very limited, »1% (mean 5 SEM: Detroit 0.5%; Pittsburgh 1.2%; and Cajuns 0.7%).

Marduk
Friday, August 8th, 2003, 01:22 AM
@Nordhammer

I agree with you : French people are more inclined to race-mixing than
British people. I noticed that the latter are quite clanic, have developped a tribal mentality and they don't mix with foreigners apart from those from germanic stock.

I think it's a good attitude which we French no longer have.

It must be due to 1789 Revolution and universality principles which stemed from.

However, many French are no longer prone to mixing with lesser forms of humanity ...

Ewergrin
Friday, August 8th, 2003, 02:08 AM
http://www.davidchokachi.com/candids/hugobossopening.jpg
http://www.davidchokachi.com/gallery.html

David Al-Chokhachy is 5'11, natural hair color is dark brown, blue-green eyes. His mother is of Scandinavian-American descent and his father is Turkish. I think he looks predominantly Fälish. :idolize


He should really step away from the tanning bed. It makes his skin look blotched and stained.

Marduk
Friday, August 8th, 2003, 02:18 AM
Do you not mean Altaic?

Regardless, the "mongoloid" component in Turkey is seen more through language than race.

Genetically, they cluster with other Near Eastern Populations.

You can distinguish them from the Arabs.

Evolved
Friday, August 8th, 2003, 02:50 AM
Some Arab-American sites have Chokachi listed as 1/2 Iraqi, which I doubt. His name is Turkish & means 'wool maker.'

The singer from reggae band UB40 ("Red red wine, you make me feel so fine, You keep me rockin' all of the time") is 1/2 Turkish. Thought something was a little weird about a white guy named Ali. :scratch

http://www.ub40-dep.com/band/ali.jpg

Nordgau
Friday, August 8th, 2003, 03:18 AM
American Negroes:

Perhaps a subjective estimation of 25% Europid blood is too high, because one has mostly images of prominent and social successful Negroes from the media in one's mind. Negroes who are prominent and somehow climbed up the social ladder, have of course, seen in the average, a higher percentage of Europid blood in themselves than those, who manage hardly or not in a high efficiency society. Negroes in ghettos or such Negroes who live on a certain, but modest niveau and only do simple, unpretentious, serving and executing jobs, tend of course generally stronger to be pure Negrid than the successful Negrids, who look often even quite Europoid, like half-half-Mulattos.
Of course such Mulattos are only fit for a white society on their surface, trained through education, and as blends in a certain degree able to adapt our culture outwardly. They are hanger-ons of White America, but they cannot be from their whole mentality the bearers of our culture and civilization.

Turks:


You can distinguish them from the Arabs.

Generally spoken, among Turks the Armenid type is stronger (depart from elements of other types among the Turks), and among Arabs the Orientalid (Arabid) type. But both races mix and link together enough in these areas.

France:

You're right, Marduk. France has played in the last 200 a not very glorious part in scattering universalist ideas of "brotherhood and equality of men" into the white people, and also in being the "avantgarde" in race-mixing. France already imported whole masses of all kinds of Mongrels and Negroes into her country in the beginning of the 20th century, when other European colonial states such as England were still aware.

On the other hand, France was with great Gobineau one of the birth countries of racialism. French heroes died in grey uniforms in the plains of Russia in the struggle against Bolshevism, and French heroes defended in the Götterdämmerung of the last hours of the great fight the Reichskanzlei in Berlin.
And France gives today great impulses for the right-wingers all over Europe.

The true France, the France of the blood must break through again.

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Friday, August 8th, 2003, 10:25 PM
Ah, see, he is a Muslim! :bounce

http://www.davidchokachi.com/candids/goodwillhuntingprem.jpg

It would be interesting to see what his Turkish father looks like.