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Furius
Sunday, July 24th, 2005, 04:33 AM
Professor Andrew Fraser (associate professor at Macquarie University’s Department of Public Law) made the headlines in Australia by stating:


Experience practically everywhere in the world tells us that an expanding black population is a sure-fire recipe for increases in crime, violence and a wide range of other social problemsIt should be noted that his observations follow on from studies made regarding African Blacks, not Australian Blacks. Would they be similar or different? I don't know.

I have been sent a transcript of the interview between Ray Martin and Professor Fraser that took place on the TV show "A Current Affair" (channel 9) on 18 July 2005.

When Professor Fraser states that "Sub Saharan Africans have an average IQ of 70-75, that is a fact", the multiracialist Ray Martin comes back with a sleeze comment "That is Adolf Hitler stuff. It's just rubbish", by which he shows he doesn't know what he is talking about. Not that Ray would care, he was spouting multiracialist propaganda, not the truth.



Ray Martin: And now to the senior academic whose has gone public with the controversial issue of immigration, Andrew Fraser is associate professor of law at Sydney's Macquarie University. He claims that bringing in black immigrants from Africa is a sure fire recipe for crime and violence and other social problems in Australia. He says that Asian immigration directly threatens ordinary Australians and their children. Macquarie University has issued a statement deploring racism but defending Professor Fraser's right to express his opinions. Professor, Thanks for your time

Drew Fraser: Thank you.

Ray: Is the white Australia policy, is that what you want back?

Drew: Well I think it is a bit late to bring it back, I think it was a mistake to abolish it. I think we ought to, try to, minimise the cost of having done away with what was basically a good idea.

Ray: The White Australia policy was a good idea? Ok who do you want to keep out? The headline says Keep Them Out, who do you want to keep out?

Drew: It seems to me the basic goal of any immigration policy, if immigrants you must have, is to get people who are basically of the same ethnic stock of the people who are already present.

Ray: So Black Africans, or Asians... No?
Drew: I would say no, Yes

Ray: What is a typical Australian in your eyes?

Drew: It is the sun bronzed, blonde, blue eyed Aussie. That is what brought me down here. That is what, I would say, brought many people down here, the belief that what was really attractive about Australia, was that it was populated by Australians.

Ray: It is 20 million of us. Except that we're not all blonde and blue eyed, we're all colours.

Drew: I would suggest, if Australia turned into a country of 35 million people who are majority non white, it would be a much less attractive destination for migrants.

Ray: That is not going to happen. Where you live, and where we all live, is a multicultural society. We get on fine with each other. Why would you raise the spectre of crime?

Drew: It is not a matter of getting on fine, I would say that it is a matter of mutual indifference. Every time I go to Westfield Parramatta, well first of all, what I do notice there is the complete absence, well virtually of white Australians. What I do see is this polyglot mix of people who have nothing in common whatever, except the shopping experience. Do you want your Grandchildren to be part of an ethnic minority? Sub Saharan Africans have an average IQ of 70-75, that is a fact.

Ray: That is Adolf Hitler stuff. It's just rubbish

Drew: No it is not

Ray: Why would you raise this racist line?

Drew: It is not racist, what it is racial realism. Could it possibly be the reason why blacks in Africa and elsewhere are notoriously unsuccessful is because they are cognitively challenged, compared to other more... more... uh... other groups.

Ray: The same thing was said about Irish, and they were said about Italians, and they were said about Greeks, and they were said about the Vietnamese when the boat people came out, and they've been said forever about Aborigines, and it doesn't happen. When they come here we actually work.

Drew: If you went to Cabramatta you would have to conclude, wouldn't you that the Vietnamese are less integrated, less assimilated into the Australian community.

Ray: Professor like your university I respect your right to your opinion, I just disagree.

Drew: Thank you

Ray: Thanks for your time.

Drew: Fun to do battle with you.
Ray Martin follows the usual Multiculturalist tactics of extremely prejudiced "interviewing", using smears or innuendoes.

So many Multiculturalists act poorly when faced with the truth.

Furius
Sunday, July 24th, 2005, 04:45 AM
From The Sydney Morning Herald:


Academic stirs fight over race
By Tim Dick
July 16, 2005


Macquarie University is standing by a senior academic who opposes non-white immigration, arguing that academics must be free to say what they wish, while also distancing itself from his views and declaring racism abhorrent.

An associate professor in the Department of Public Law, Andrew Fraser, claims that African migration increases crime, says HSC results point to a rising ruling class of Asians and wants Australia to withdraw from refugee conventions to avoid becoming "a colony of the Third World".

Associate Professor Fraser, originally from Canada, believes cognitive and athletic abilities, testosterone and "impulse control" vary according to race, and "civilisations" should look after their own.

The university said yesterday it was "distancing" itself from Associate Professor Fraser's views but backed the right of academics to say what they wish in a "responsible" way.

The acting Vice-Chancellor, Professor John Loxton, said there was no place for racism at the university, but it "recognises and protects academic freedom as essential to the conduct of teaching, research and scholarship".


After seeing a photograph of a Sudanese child in the Parramatta Sun, Associate Professor Fraser wrote to the newspaper saying "an expanding black population is a sure-fire recipe for increases in crime, violence and a wide range of other social problems".

"The fact is that ordinary Australians are being pushed down the path to national suicide by their own political, religious and economic elites."

Associate Professor Fraser wrote in an email to a Woollahra councillor, David Shoebridge, that Chinese immigration directly threatened the "social, political and economic interests of ordinary Australians and their children".

"Look at the annual HSC results - the consequence of which is that Oz is creating a new heavily Asian managerial-professional, ruling class that will feel no hesitation … in promoting the narrow interests of their co-ethnics at the expense of white Australians."

Associate Professor Fraser told the Herald it was only the "educated middle class" who opposed his views. "I think most ordinary people would find what I'm saying more or less self-evident," he said.

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/07/15/1121429359329.html (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/07/15/1121429359329.html)

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Furius
Sunday, July 24th, 2005, 05:05 AM
From Green Left Weekly:

Racist academic attacks Sudanese migrants

Kerryn Williams, Sydney

“Keep them out” declared the front-page headline of the July 6 Parramatta Sun. The article referred to a letter sent to the suburban newspaper by a university academic, warning that an increase in the settlement of Sudanese refugees in the Parramatta-Blacktown area would lead to a surge in crime and violence, and that it would amount to “national suicide”.

“Experience practically everywhere in the world tells us that an expanding black population is a sure-fire recipe for increases in crime, violence and a wide range of other social problems”, wrote Andrew Fraser, associate professor at Macquarie University’s Department of Public Law.

Fraser’s explicitly racist claims were in response to the Sun’s June 29 cover story, which featured a young girl saying “Now mum and dad are Aussies just like me”, after her Sudanese parents gained Australian citizenship.

In a comment piece in the same issue of the paper as the report on Fraser's letter, Sun journalist Charles Boag questioned his assertions: “Was the violence of America’s deep south caused by black people? I always thought it was caused by whites. Was there murder and mayhem on a great scale in Australia, caused by indigenous blacks, before white people came? I always thought it was the white settlers who did that sort of thing.”

Yet according to Fraser, “Anglo-Australians are once again expected to acquiesce in the steady erosion of their distinctive national identity”. He laments that Australia “can no longer remain the homeland of a particular people”, but must instead “become a colony of the Third World”. He challenges the idea that “black Africans and Muslim Afghanis are Aussies just like the descendants of the Anglo-Celtic pioneers who settled and built this country”.

When interviewed by the Sun, Fraser claimed that “it is clear that there are differences between racial groups” and that “these racial and ethnic conflicts are intractable”. He claimed that, “By taking in people from Sudan we are potentially importing more ethnic conflict”.

In his letter, Fraser wrote that it was “utopian fantasy” to believe that religious and ethnic conflicts wouldn’t be transferred to Australia as “local African tribal groups grow in size and confidence”.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/633/633p6.htm



Note the comment from journalist Charles Boag:

“Was the violence of America’s deep south caused by black people? I always thought it was caused by whites. Was there murder and mayhem on a great scale in Australia, caused by indigenous blacks, before white people came? I always thought it was the white settlers who did that sort of thing.”= 2 very racist anti-White statements.
As usual, the media thinks it's ok (if not mandatory) to vilify White people in any "debate" that concerns race.

The rest of the Green Left Weekly article is the to-be-expected usual Multiculturalist hand-wringing nonsense.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, July 24th, 2005, 05:08 AM
If I might be so bold as to say that Australians should look at what has happend to the USA and Canada regarding immigration before swinging open their own gates even wider. On the other hand, if they would close the gate and lock it, they would probably have the finest country in the world.

Furius
Sunday, July 24th, 2005, 05:34 AM
Thanks, Dr. Solar Wolff

Nationalists in Australia can see the HUGE problems caused overseas by multiracialism, in places such as the USA and Canada (as you so rightly pointed out), and the UK.

Unfortunately, we have the same problem that those countries have, namely our country's Establishment is now mainly comprised of those from the Traitor Class. These multiculturalists in the government, academia, and media are ruining our country and brainwashing our children.

It's the same in our country as it is with every other White nation in the world.

We can see clearly that the fateful march of history is disappearing down the dark path to destruction, and it falls to us to convince our kinsfolk to join the fight, to return our people to the shining path of national integrity.

It's not right nor fair that the burden to struggle against the vast apparatus of the treacherous Establishment falls upon our shoulders, but we must do it - for the sake of our People, and to be able to look ourselves in the mirror without seeing a coward or shirker. If not us, then who? If not now, then when?

It's our future, our children's future, it's up to us.



(Oops. Every now and then, I have moments of imagined literary grandeur.)

Furius
Monday, July 25th, 2005, 10:55 PM
Sorry.

This thread should have been placed in the "Articles & Current Affairs - Australia & New Zealand" section of the Forum.

Is it possible for it to be moved?

Thank you.

Rhydderch
Tuesday, July 26th, 2005, 06:12 AM
“Was the violence of America’s deep south caused by black people? I always thought it was caused by whites. Was there murder and mayhem on a great scale in Australia, caused by indigenous blacks, before white people came? I always thought it was the white settlers who did that sort of thing.”Oh, well you're wrong, Charlie Bog.

This sort of nonsense finds its way all over the place. While the lack of written documentation makes Aboriginal society (prior to colonisation) difficult to analyse, the available evidence suggests that inter-tribal warfare was rampant, and that they were big-time murderers of one another.

There were a few instances of white men massacreing Aborigines, but these were generally done by criminals who would not have hesitated to kill a fellow white man.
By and large, the colonists got on fairly well with the natives, but alcohol and diseases (often relatively mild ones which were not fatal to white men) were introduced, and the latter were often fatal to the natives, who had not developed an immunity from such new ailments. So these were responsible for more deaths than murder at the hands of colonists.

However, it must be stressed that the Aboriginal population of Australia was already very low.
For example, early estimates of Victoria's native population (just prior to settlement) vary from about 1,000 to 6,000.

Rhydderch
Tuesday, July 26th, 2005, 10:39 AM
It should be noted that his observations follow on from studies made regarding African Blacks, not Australian Blacks. Would they be similar or different? I don't know.As far as I know, crime rates are much higher among Aborigines than the rest of the population. They have, I think, a highly disproportionate overrepresentation in Australian jails, compared to the percentage in the general populace.
It has been claimed that this is due to discrimination against them, but it's pretty obvious to me that they (as a whole) commit more crimes (although I think that this is basically cultural/religious, rather than genetic or racial).

The Aborigines in my nearby town (few there if any, are full-blooded, however) are a rough bunch, and people try to avoid confrontations with them, although if they (especially the young teenagers) are in the mood for a fight they'll often taunt people to get an angry response, but it pays not to take offence at it :D.

One night some of them hijacked my brother's car at knifepoint and went (with him) about 25 km inland to a forest which is part of an Aboriginal reserve (the forest is open to the public though), apparently to collect some drugs, but not before a bit of fun with the car; however, they were also keen to demonstrate the validity of their religion, and I tell you what, some strange things happened there. The forest is reputed to be haunted (:-O), and it made sense that they practice their religion in it.

But in spite of their criminal tendency, many of them are exceptionally friendly, and most Australians probably quite like them.

herr georg
Thursday, August 4th, 2005, 07:47 AM
It is the sun bronzed, blonde, blue eyed Aussie.
So that means the freckled, ivory white celtic looking ones like me are unwelcome?