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Kartal
Friday, June 10th, 2005, 02:37 AM
http://www.boxingpress.de/fotos/Berlin-08-02-03-sinan4.jpg http://www.vepsa.de/Wir_uber_uns/a_Turan_Verep.jpg
http://www.karakartal.com/images/haber/2002/sergen018_2608.jpg http://www.nihalatsiz.com/kultegin1.jpg http://www.milliyet.com.tr/2002/11/18/resim/milkapak25.jpg
http://www.khorasan.de/history-Timur6.jpg http://www.ds-istanbul.de/graph/atatuerk.jpg
http://hubyar.org/images/eski_secogveli2.jpg http://hubyar.org/images/sevindik1.jpg http://hubyar.org/images/kirazana.jpg http://www.hungaroton.hu/albumok/0137.jpg
http://www.siir.gen.tr/images/aytekin_karacoban.jpg http://www.azgallery.org/artgallery/artists/shahtakhtinskaya_elmira_157/shahtakhtinskaya_elmira/shahtakhtinskaya_07.jpg
http://www.fcgundelfingen.de/Fussball/Historie/Portraits/Uenal.jpg http://www.ordutarim.gov.tr/ilceler/kabaduz/personelresim/ercan.jpg http://www.karamanmyo.selcuk.edu.tr/Persresim/S_Ertugrul.JPGhttp://www.galatasaray.com/images/haber/2003/necati002.jpghttp://www.galatasaray.org/images/superlig/kadro/necati_b.jpg
http://www.allsportnews.net/images/942.jpg http://www.habervitrini.com/haber_resim/serdar_ortac1.jpg
http://www.bleublancturc.com/News/images_news/Ilhan_Mansiz.jpg http://www.mansizilhan.com/uploads/ilhan-wc-129_jpg.jpg
http://www.gecce.com/web/images/haber/yalin_renkli.jpg

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Mongoloid:
http://www.spacefacts.de/bios/portraits/candidates/park_chan-wook.jpg
Turanoid:
http://www.ifrc.org/WHAT/health/hivaids/antistigma/images/gallery/tajik.jpg
Iranoid:
http://www.gulf-news.com/images/2002/05/16_karimi.jpg http://www.kojaa.com/spor/Team_Melli/Borhani.jpg http://hsv.de/uploads/pics/Mahdavikia_gr_01.jpg
As you can see Turanoid is something like the step between Caucasoid and Mongoloid....
But Turanoid is not a "new race". Even the huns were Turanoids. The chineese said they had strong growth of beard. This sounds not mongoloid! They were some blond huns. This sounds not mongoloid, too...



First picture is an Iranian-Prototype; Second is one of a Turkic-Prototype(Dinarid-Turanid):
http://www.transfermarkt.de/bilder/spielerfotos/mahdavikia.jpg http://www.astonvilla.jp/squads/squad0304/alpay/alpay.jpg

QuietWind
Friday, June 10th, 2005, 02:51 AM
May I ask what is your personal definition of Turanian?

From experience with speaking to many people, I have come to the conclusion that practically has totally different definitions for the words: Turanid and Turanian, and for what constitutes the connection between these peoples (i.e. linguistic, genetic, etc.) Personally, I do not find the majority of those you posted to be within my definition of what constitutes Turanian.

Abby Normal
Friday, June 10th, 2005, 07:07 AM
A relative of mine:

http://img192.echo.cx/img192/6651/133456782jw.png

I have more "Turanian"-looking relatives whose pictures I shall post when and if I have time.

Gareth
Friday, June 10th, 2005, 02:25 PM
They all strike me as Anatolian and not Turanid (which is closer to the Afghanid in looks).

Their type would be East-Mediterranid plus varying Aralid, Armenid and South-Mediterranid admixture.

This guy looks at least handsome, he might be Atlanto-Med with Turanid strain:

http://www.bleublancturc.com/News/images_news/Ilhan_Mansiz.jpg
http://www.mansizilhan.com/uploads/ilhan-wc-129_jpg.jpg

Appalachian
Friday, June 10th, 2005, 09:05 PM
A relative of mine:

http://img192.echo.cx/img192/6651/133456782jw.png

I have more "Turanian"-looking relatives whose pictures I shall post when and if I have time.

Do you really think he looks Turanian? I'd say it's just the quality of the photograph that leads you in that direction. He appears to be light eyed, for one thing.

Abby Normal
Friday, June 10th, 2005, 09:16 PM
Do you really think he looks Turanian? I'd say it's just the quality of the photograph that leads you in that direction. He appears to be light eyed, for one thing.


He was a broad-faced Eastern European with prominent cheekbones and light eyes (gray, to be exact). Some of his features lead me to believe that he had "Turanian" (or perhaps "Ladogan") influence.

crazy_hun
Friday, July 29th, 2005, 02:16 AM
Hi,

My father is a Turanid Turk as i am half turkish/half english and in Turkey there are the Pontic or East Mediterranoids who are found in the West (Aegean Coast) who form 20% of the population,u have the Dinaric Mediterraneans who are 35% majority and are found in most parts of the country,both of the above are mainly descended from Ancient Greek colonists and indigineous Anatolian habitants.U have Irano-afghans who are the Kurds in the Southeast and east and lastly Turanids at 20% who are descedents of original Turks from Central Asia and are found predonmiantly in Central anatolia in provinces such as Konya,Karaman,Aksaray,Kayseri,Yozgat.

Turanids are all mainly round faced with short,wide noses,smallish oval-shaped eyes and usually have dark hair and eyes but blondish/reddish hair with fair eyes are not unknown on the contrary to the common belief in the West.I shall post some images of Yoruk nomads who are turanids from Karaman province.

crazy_hun
Friday, July 29th, 2005, 02:31 AM
Here are some pix of Yorukler (yoruk nomads) from Karaman as promised.The first pic i am unsura wherever she is Yoruk or not,the others are tho.

Agrippa
Friday, July 29th, 2005, 03:22 PM
The real Turanids are Pamirid - a Taurid type and fully Europid.
The mixed racial type is Aralid and is mainly made up by Tungid Mongolids mixing with Pamirids and Iranids.
Those pictures show various types, most are pred. Europid not Aralid - some people use Turanid = Aralid but thats not commendable because the real, original Turan people are the Pamirids of Europid race.

Windr
Sunday, October 2nd, 2005, 12:58 AM
Rustam Kasimdzhanov from Uzbekistan. ("Kasim", age 26, is International Chess Federation World Champion):
http://www.wccsanluis.net/images/jugadores/kasimdzhanov_2.jpghttp://www.wccsanluis.net/images/novedades/8164.jpg

Klegutati
Monday, June 12th, 2006, 12:04 AM
They all strike me as Anatolian and not Turanid (which is closer to the Afghanid in looks).

Their type would be East-Mediterranid plus varying Aralid, Armenid and South-Mediterranid admixture.

This guy looks at least handsome, he might be Atlanto-Med with Turanid strain:

http://www.bleublancturc.com/News/images_news/Ilhan_Mansiz.jpg
http://www.mansizilhan.com/uploads/ilhan-wc-129_jpg.jpg

This football player on top is a native to the Ukrainian Crimea. He is a Crimean Tatar..

ernye
Wednesday, August 2nd, 2006, 01:28 AM
He is Ilhan Mansiz, Turkish football star in the World Cup 2002.

Ergenekon
Thursday, November 16th, 2006, 12:40 PM
May I ask what is your personal definition of Turanian?

From experience with speaking to many people, I have come to the conclusion that practically has totally different definitions for the words: Turanid and Turanian, and for what constitutes the connection between these peoples (i.e. linguistic, genetic, etc.) Personally, I do not find the majority of those you posted to be within my definition of what constitutes Turanian.

Turanoids are East Alpins, white race with brekisephal head form, oval face, oval back head, forehead with some angle, hair coor varies from mid blond to dark brown (nordics are blond I know, but blond genes do not come from nordics), eye color green to brown (blue eyes are rare and shows mixture with nordids)
Turanian means a pshyco political union mostly based on lingustics of Ural-Altay language family. For example Finns are Turanians but not Turanoids (not anymore)
I hope I could be helpful.

Kipcak
Wednesday, January 10th, 2007, 07:39 PM
They all strike me as Anatolian and not Turanid (which is closer to the Afghanid in looks).

Their type would be East-Mediterranid plus varying Aralid, Armenid and South-Mediterranid admixture.

This guy looks at least handsome, he might be Atlanto-Med with Turanid strain:

http://www.bleublancturc.com/News/images_news/Ilhan_Mansiz.jpg
http://www.mansizilhan.com/uploads/ilhan-wc-129_jpg.jpg

He is Ilhan MANSIZ. A Crimean Tatar. But, as a Crimean Tatar, i cannot say that Tatars are a pure race. For instance, my Kazan Tatar brothers and sisters look like more slavic. However Nogay Tatars have more asiatic appereance. As for Crimean Tatars, some of us are blond, some have asiatic appereance, and some of them look like Anatolian Turks because of Ottoman influence on Crimea in the past.

Sami
Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, 04:16 AM
Tatars are not pure Turks, they are mixed with Mongols as you can see