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Saoirse
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2003, 07:32 AM
One third of Israeli 15-year-olds are unable to understand what they have read, due to lack of basic reading skills, according to an international survey released Tuesday.

The Program for International Student Assessment (PISA-2000) survey on industrialized countries (OECD) was published simultaneously in the 41 countries, including Israel, that took part in the research

http://www.rense.com/general38/33.htm

Stríbog
Wednesday, July 2nd, 2003, 08:05 AM
Yes, but there is a sizeable Arab population in Israel, who understandably are denied education and basic necessities by the Jewish occupiers. When the article says 'Israeli,' what does it mean? Jews in the United States have an average IQ somewhere between 110 and 120 based on several sources I have read, and their command of the English language is superior to that of the average Nordic American, unfortunately. They often excel at languages so as to rise to positions of influence in societies. Walther Kaufmann, for example, is a Jewish translator of German literature by Nietzsche, Goethe et al. I do know that Israeli Jews are not supposed to be as intelligent as Jews living in Europe and America. Still, I doubt that 33% of them have reading comprehension problems.

Reno
Friday, July 4th, 2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by Stríbog
Jews in the United States have an average IQ somewhere between 110 and 120 based on several sources I have read, and their command of the English language is superior to that of the average Nordic American, unfortunately. They often excel at languages so as to rise to positions of influence in societies. .

But you failed to mention that Jews are being spolied with billions of dollars of pity money because of the "Holocaust" which supposedly claimed 6 million of their worthless lives. However white Christians are not be awarded with billions of dollars in aid regardless of the fact that White Christians were killed in the millions in Europe. 10 Million in Soviet Union. 50 Million in WW1 and WW2.

The truth is that the Jews are just extremnely lucky and have the resources to do well(by pity off other christians), whereas white christians lose all their tax money sending $10 billion a year to Israel.

However if you look at all the genious creators, inventors, poets, historians and playwrights--they're all white and christian. The difference between a white and a Jew, is that whites suffer and recieve no retribution. Whereas Jews kill(Soviet Union and Palestine) and recieve all the retribution.

You also failed to read the article, for it said that Finnish people ranked the higest in reading skills. Thus even with their pitiful bursaries, the Jews were still incapable of surpassing the Christians in mental fortitude.

Stríbog
Friday, July 4th, 2003, 02:41 AM
The truth is that the Jews are just extremnely lucky and have the resources to do well(by pity off other christians), whereas white christians lose all their tax money sending $10 billion a year to Israel.

It's not luck, it's a cultural decision they have made to be materially successful. As a group, they take "the ends justify the means" to a whole new level. If white people are stupid enough to support a government that takes their money and gives it to clever Jews, then they can't all be brilliant. Most Christians I know *LIKE* having their money go to Israel.
Jewish Holocaust™ extortion is a result of their skill at persuasion and their high verbal IQ's; it is not the cause of it. They have been shrewdly rising to the top in media and publishing since long before the first Holocaust rumors surfaced.


However if you look at all the genious creators, inventors, poets, historians and playwrights--they're all white and christian.

Not exactly. Arabs invented algebra and modern medicine, since Christianity banned medical research as 'obscene'. The Chinese invented paper, gunpowder, the stirrup, the clock, and the compass. Yes, Jews have invented/discovered things as well; Heinrich Hertz, Jonas Salk, Enrico Fermi and others were entirely or partly Jewish.

In fact, most of the European intellectual icons were NOT Christian; Mozart, Newton, Darwin, Schöpenhauer, Hume, Mill and countless others were not practicing or devout Christians. If they made any semblance of observing Christianity, it was to avoid persecution for deviating from the dominant culture. Galileo and Copernicus were famously denounced by the Church for uncovering scientific fact. Christianity has consistently opposed knowledge and progress throughout its history, and furthermore has incited conflicts that killed a higher percentage of Europe's population than the Soviet purges to which you refer.

Reno
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 01:42 AM
It's not luck, it's a cultural decision they have made to be materially successful. As a group, they take "the ends justify the means" to a whole new level.

As opposed to any other ethnic group? How many countries have the Jews established? How many languages have the Jews created? The Jews are a parasitical community that need to leech off other communities in order to advance themeslves. While whites were investing all of their money to build transmission systems, railways, streets, houses, buildings, hospitals, supermarkets, military, the Jews used their money to invest on their children's education in order to advance themselves in society. If the Jews were superior to the whites then they would've also been able to establish cities and countries. But the Jews never managed to build one, not even one, country. Israel was created by the British and funded severely by the United States($10 Billion dollars per year from the U.S).

Another reason why Jews excel in commerce is because Christianity is a loving, forgiving and peaceful religion that teaches the Christian to yield and have pity on the Jews. Whereas Judaism teaches their people to steal, lie and fool the non-Jews in order to advance themselves financially. Thus many Jewish-Yiddish street gangs were formed int he United States and they bombed other Christian businesses in order to run out the gentile from the competition. Is it a surprise that the Jews have managed to obtain so much power with their parasitical and mobster mentality? If Christians had behaved liek the Jews for the past 2000 years then all the Christians and Jews would've been extinct a long time ago.


Most Christians I know *LIKE* having their money go to Israel.

As I said, Christians are very peaceful, loving, pity-giving and friendly towards others. Even when the Jews insult Christians through their media, the Christians are still willing to help them when their own children are deprived at school and nutrition.



They have been shrewdly rising to the top in media and publishing since long before the first Holocaust rumors surfaced.

Only by using force to chase away Christian business owners. Yiddish gangs were terrorising New Yorker business men and forcing them to close down their business in order to avoid murder of them and their family.



Not exactly. Arabs invented algebra and modern medicine, since Christianity banned medical research as 'obscene'

Well the Christians restricted science because if used by the forces of evil it could cause devastating consequences (http://www.christianparty.net/healthcare.htm) , need I not mention that a major nuclear war could result in the destruction of this entire planet. The Christian clergy may not be perfect, but they have every right to fear science for the sick purposes that it is being use for today.




Yes, Jews have invented/discovered things as well; Heinrich Hertz, Jonas Salk, Enrico Fermi and others were entirely or partly Jewish.

A minimal amount of Jews, highly disproportionate compared to Christians. And let's not forget that white Christians devoted their time to establish cities, countries, states, armies etc. How many countries and armies have the Jews independently established?




In fact, most of the European intellectual icons were NOT Christian; Mozart, Newton, Darwin, Sch?penhauer, Hume, Mill and countless others were not practicing or devout Christians. If they made any semblance of observing Christianity

Most Jews that did achieve successful businesses or invention, were themselves, not devout Jews. They merelty regarded themselves as a race and noty less a religion. So your logic is flawed.


Christianity has consistently opposed knowledge and progress throughout its history, and furthermore has incited conflicts that killed a higher percentage of Europe's population than the Soviet purges to which you refer.

That is a lie. Most of Europe's population died due to the black plague, not because of "evil clergy men that want to annihilate mankind". Only the Jewish media would make such a radical claim. And if you're so concerned about the deaths of millions of Europeans, then why not read about the deaths of over 1 Billion Whites at the hands of the Jews (http://www.christianseparatist.org/briefs/sb4.03.htm)

Stríbog
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 01:50 AM
For them to have killed 1 billion whites, they would have had to kill every white that ever walked the planet. :hmmmm
The Thirty Years War killed 1/3 to 1/2 of Germany's population, and the rates were high in other countries as well. Jews didn't start that war; Christians did.
I guess you agree with the medieval Church that knowledge is a bad thing, since it can potentially be used for evil as well as good? Strange that religious wars have killed more people than nuclear wars.

Reno
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by Stríbog
For them to have killed 1 billion whites, they would have had to kill every white that ever walked the planet. :hmmmm
The Thirty Years War killed 1/3 to 1/2 of Germany's population, and the rates were high in other countries as well. Jews didn't start that war; Christians did.
I guess you agree with the medieval Church that knowledge is a bad thing, since it can potentially be used for evil as well as good? Strange that religious wars have killed more people than nuclear wars.

1 billion including the potential births. The Jews were the main cause of the war.Nuclear wars will eventually lead to the death of billions of people. Science has beend used to destroy more lives, than save lives.

Reno
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 01:58 AM
Clikc on this link to see that the Jews declared war on Germany in 1933, 6 years before world War 2 and even the Holocaust.

http://www.motleykrew.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43624

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

Stríbog
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 01:59 AM
I never even brought WW2 up, it has little or nothing to do with Christianity and the Thirty Years War.

Reno
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by Stríbog
I never even brought WW2 up, it has little or nothing to do with Christianity and the Thirty Years War.

According to modern history books(something which you know nothing about) WW2 was one thousand times more devastating than any other war. Of course if you spend your time reading Zionist publications then you would have little knowledge of the horrors the Jews caused--horrors beyond any other horror caused.

Stríbog
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 02:04 AM
OK man whatever you say, Christianity never killed anyone, science is evil, and only Jews are capable of foul deeds. :nut

Reno
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Stríbog
OK man whatever you say, Christianity never killed anyone, science is evil, and only Jews are capable of foul deeds. :nut

You're obviously misinformed.

Milesian
Saturday, July 5th, 2003, 06:43 PM
Christianity has always been hard on the Jews.
They have been repeatedly condemned as Christ-killers. Various Popes throughout history have advised such things as: Jews having to wear clothing marking them as Jews, forcing them into ghettos, forbidding Jews from having Christian servants. The Holy Inquisition was used to weed out Jews and Muslims posing as faithful citizens.

As bishop Siguad commented "What used to be called "politics of the right" such as Fascism and National Socialism, were in fact to combat movements against the Church of Christ "
The full letter he wrote can be found here The "right" is our weapon against the Jews (http://www.romancatholicism.org/vatican-bishop.html)

This is what true Christianity has always been about.
Not meek but strong and not afraid to declare war on it's enemies whether they be Jewish, Muslim or whatever.
It is not to be confused with Christianity today which has been largely subverted by our enemies and now serves their interests. (Check out a group called the "Alta Vendita " for more info on the infiltration of Christianity today)

Reno
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Milesian
Christianity has always been hard on the Jews.


I guess all those Christians tax dollars, which amount to 10 billion U.S a year, is considered "going hard" on the Jews?

Milesian
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 08:54 AM
Read the last part of my post again .
Also, Hoffman whom you reffer to has a nice Traditional Catholic site called "Holywar". You should check it out ;)

Saoirse
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 10:55 AM
Jews kill Jews all the time. Christianity worships our destroyer -- the Jew. Living in a world of fantasy is going to be destoryed by reality. And Christianity loves the gullible. Heaven and Hell :rollani , are just LSD trips.

Milesian
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 01:17 PM
Well, your entitled to your opinion.
I'm not sure how Christianity worships Jews.
Also if Christianity is part of the problem and is really a Jewish tool to control us Gentiles, then why have the Jews devoted so much time and effort into attack, slandering and persecuting the Christian Church and Christian States?
Why has the Church organised Crusades, Inquisitions, Reconquista, pogroms,etc?

Why does the Jewish controlled media (films, television) seems to have a love affair with the occult and supernatural (which has notably increased the number of people falling back into primitive pagan practises or new age religions)

As someone once said
"When people stop believing in God they don't believe in nothing, they believe in everything"

Making them that much easier to control and manipulate

Saoirse
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 01:30 PM
Why is Ireland divided? Because of Christianity. Ever heard of the Catholic vs. Protestant massacre of 1641? It has always been Catholics vs. Protestant in Irish history. Which Jesus teaches. Catholic priests are forbidden to marry, have a family and children, which is race suicide.

Acts 26:9
I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth (guess where that is).

Acts 26:13-14
At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew (language of the Jew) tongue, Saul, Saul (Jew of Tarus), why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

When Jesus died, he was killed by his own (Luke 22:66, John 19:7).

What about beating your children? :sick

Christianity is anti-woman.

Saoirse
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 01:37 PM
<b>I'm not sure how Christianity worships Jews.</b>

After Jesus rose from the dead ( :rollani ), he told his disciples to convert the gentiles/nations (Matthew 28:19). The Jews are not a nation.

Milesian
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by IrishBen
Why is Ireland divided? Because of Christianity. Ever heard of the Catholic vs. Protestant massacre of 1641? It has always been Catholics vs. Protestant in Irish history. Which Jesus teaches. Catholic priests are forbidden to marry, have a family and children, which is race suicide.

Acts 26:9
I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth (guess where that is).

Acts 26:13-14
At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew (language of the Jew) tongue, Saul, Saul (Jew of Tarus), why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

When Jesus died, he was killed by his own (Luke 22:66, John 19:7).

What about beating your children? :sick

Christianity is anti-woman.

Why is Ireland divided? Come on, is it really just Catholic and Protestant? I'll bet you the majority of Loyalists and Republicans don't even believe in God let alone attend Mass or Sunday service. Isn't there something to do with Unionism and Republicanism? Stay British or become Irish? I'm sure that plays some small part as well, in other words - political.
Religion often serves as a convenient excuse for some people.

You say it has always been Catholic against Protestant in Irish history? What about before the reformation? What about when the Normans invaded? They were Catholics too. That wasn't about religion then, was it? And how did Jesus teach that it had always been that way in Ireland? I don't remember him refer to the Emerald Isle once.
I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. Where does Jesus teach that? It would be strange especially since there was no such thing as Protestantism until Martin Luther some 15 centuries after Jesus's time.

Catholic priests can be married. If a man is married and then decides to become a priest then it is permissible (in fact compulsory) for him not to break his marriage vows. That of course is a very rare scenario. But Catholic priests can marry. It is the custom of the Latin Rite that they do not (because of St Paul's teaching) but Catholic clergy in some of the Eastern Rite's do marry. Celibate clergy is a matter of tradition and Church Discipline, it is not a dogma of faith.
With Catholics supposed to shun artificial contraception and abortion, then Catholics tended to have large families, so the exticition of the human race was an unlikely consequence of a celibate clergy. In fact it was probably advisable for population control!

I'm not sure what the Bible passages are for.

Jesus was killed by the Jews? Yes.
Jesus came to tell them that the Old Covenant was over. They had repeatedly spat in God's face. The Hebrews were no longer the "Chosen". God their inheritence from them and gave it to the Gentiles."But outside there, will be the Children of the Kingdom, and there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth"

That's the sound of the fury, the agony and vengeful hate of the Jews being dispossesed and seeing God's kingdom being given to the Gentiles who put their faith in him.
Judasim ended 2000 years ago. All true Jews stopped being Jews at that time. The faithful converted to Christianity, they partook in the New and Everlasting Covenant. The unfaithful persisted in their vain traditions, abandoned by God because they rejected him. That is why they have never ceased in their efforts to mislead Christians from the True Faith, to attempt to subvert and pervert the Church with heresies of every kind both spiritual and material in nature. The "Jewish" (or Talmudic) hatred of Christianity knows no bounds.

Beating your children?
This is a Christian practice? Where does it say that? Do only Christians beat their children?

Christianity is anti-woman?
Why? Because it respects the dignity of the marriage? Because it is pro-life and does not think woman should abuse and degrade their bodies by being promiscuious, using artificial chemicals, creams, jellies, pills or instruments to prevent the creation of new human life? Because it credits human beings as having the higher reasoning to postpone immediate gratification and the will power to not engage in sex when it is not advisable, rather than just being debased animals who are enslaved to their carnal instincts? Because it cares for the lives of unborn children? Because it celebrates womanhood for what it is, and not by trying to pretend that woman are men?
Is it because women can't be priests? Do you think that there is a biblical basis for that or do you just assume it's because the male clergy are all bitter old misogynists who are simply sexist for it's own sake?

Perhaps you should look for some Catholic womens groups who are absolutely against women's ordinations. The reason being they understand the actual reasons for this instead of jumping on the feminist bandwagon and declaring that they are being oppressed and persecuted by the evil Catholic church.
What about all the women who left the Church of England after they allowed women's ordinations? are those women themselves Anti-Women?

If Christianity is so sexist then why does it believe that Mary the Mother of God is the Queen of Heaven and the most exalted human being who has ever and ever will exist?
Were Joseph or Moses or Abraham or any of the apostles so exalted above all other creatures? No.
It was Mary, a woman. And she is loved and adored.
Really sexist, huh?

Saoirse
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 06:47 PM
<b>Why is Ireland divided? Come on, is it really just Catholic and Protestant? I'll bet you the majority of Loyalists and Republicans don't even believe in God let alone attend Mass or Sunday service. Isn't there something to do with Unionism and Republicanism? Stay British or become Irish? I'm sure that plays some small part as well, in other words - political.
Religion often serves as a convenient excuse for some people.</b>

I'm not a republican. Why should you believe in something that would send you to "Hell?" And the Laws of Christianity teaches animal cruelity.

<b>You say it has always been Catholic against Protestant in Irish history? What about before the reformation? What about when the Normans invaded? They were Catholics too. That wasn't about religion then, was it? And how did Jesus teach that it had always been that way in Ireland? I don't remember him refer to the Emerald Isle once.
I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion. Where does Jesus teach that? It would be strange especially since there was no such thing as Protestantism until Martin Luther some 15 centuries after Jesus's time.</b>

Uh, Jesus wasnt the one who spread Christianity, it was Paul.

<b>Catholic priests can be married. If a man is married and then decides to become a priest then it is permissible (in fact compulsory) for him not to break his marriage vows. That of course is a very rare scenario. But Catholic priests can marry. It is the custom of the Latin Rite that they do not (because of St Paul's teaching) but Catholic clergy in some of the Eastern Rite's do marry. Celibate clergy is a matter of tradition and Church Discipline, it is not a dogma of faith.

I'm not sure what the Bible passages are for.</b>

My mistake about Catholic priests.

<b>Jesus was killed by the Jews? Yes.
Jesus came to tell them that the Old Covenant was over. They had repeatedly spat in God's face. The Hebrews were no longer the "Chosen". God their inheritence from them and gave it to the Gentiles."But outside there, will be the Children of the Kingdom, and there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth"</b>

....

So you admit this, God their inheritence from them and gave it to the Gentiles?

Where not Hebrew or Semitic.

<b>That's the sound of the fury, the agony and vengeful hate of the Jews being dispossesed and seeing God's kingdom being given to the Gentiles who put their faith in him.
Judasim ended 2000 years ago. All true Jews stopped being Jews at that time. The faithful converted to Christianity, they partook in the New and Everlasting Covenant. The unfaithful persisted in their vain traditions, abandoned by God because they rejected him. That is why they have never ceased in their efforts to mislead Christians from the True Faith, to attempt to subvert and pervert the Church with heresies of every kind both spiritual and material in nature. The "Jewish" (or Talmudic) hatred of Christianity knows no bounds.</b>

Judaism is still around! It is their racial religion, which Christianity sprang from! The faithful did not just convert, the Christians used an act of bloodshed.
Even though the Bible clearly says that Jesus is a Jew, there is no goddamn evidence of his existance. Christians are always talking about the "Second Coming." But, in 1914, Jesus returned to rule the world through Great Britain.

<b>Beating your children?
This is a Christian practice? Where does it say that? Do only Christians beat their children?</b>

It's not just Christians, but Christianity still teaches it, and still sick. In Psalms 135:8, 136:10, God is praised for slaughtering babies. In 137:9, happiness is smashing your little children with rocks. Or Proverbs 13:24, beating your children with a rod is a sure sign of parental love, 19:18 beat your children and don't stop just because they cry, 22:15, Beating your children will make them less foolish ( :sick :sick ) and so on.

<b>Christianity is anti-woman?
Why? Because it respects the dignity of the marriage? Because it is pro-life and does not think woman should abuse and degrade their bodies by being promiscuious, using artificial chemicals, creams, jellies, pills or instruments to prevent the creation of new human life? Because it cares for the lives of unborn children? Because it celebrates womanhood for what it is, and not by trying to pretend that woman are men?
Is it because women can't be priests? Do you think that there is a biblical basis for that or do you just assume it's because the male clergy are all bitter old misogynists who are simply sexist for it's own sake?</b>

In Genesis, Lot gives up his own daughters to a crowd of angel rapers (even drinks wine with them in a cave and gets one preg!). Esau, Abraham are pimps. God teaches you how to sell your own daughters. In Exodus, God wants to see all of the males three times a year -- wheres the females? Leviticus says that women are dirty and sinful after childbirth. Chapter 12 says this:

<i>And when the days of her purifying are fulfilled, for a son, or for a daughter, she shall bring a lamb of the first year for a burnt offering, and a young pigeon, or dove,
for a sin offering, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest</i>

What does that tell you?


<b>If Christianity is so sexist then why does it believe that Mary the Mother of God is the Queen of Heaven and the most exalted human being who has ever and ever will exist?
Were Joseph or Moses or Abraham or any of the apostles so exalted above all other creatures? No.
It was Mary, a woman. And she is loved and adored.
Really sexist, huh?</b>

:rollani

How can virgin Marry be the mother of God when virgins have to have sex to make babies? Since shes the mother of God, shes a Jew bitch where Joseph, Moses and Abraham the Hebrew stick to their own kind.

"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law" (Matthew 10:34-35)

With Christianity, where always divided.

Milesian
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 07:09 PM
"I'm not a Republican.Why should you believe in something that would send you to "Hell?" And the Laws of Christianity teaches animal cruelity."

I never said you were a Republican. Why did you say that?
As for the middle part, asking why would I believe in something that sends me to Hell? Do you mean Christianity?
Believing in Christianity does not send me to Hell. I believe that by being a good Christian it will allow me to avoid Hell.
It's a bit like saying why do I believe in gravity, if it means that I would likely die if I through myself from the top of a skyscraper.
Gravity exists whether someone believes in it or not.
Similary I believe that Hell still exists, independant of whether I personally beiliev in it or not. In other words, I don't like stepping on dog sh*t, but dog sh*t will not cease to exist just because I tell myself it isn't real.


So you admit this, God their inheritence from them and gave it to the Gentiles? Where not Hebrew or Semitic

Exactly, we are Gentiles (Non-Jews)



Judaism is still around! It is their racial religion, which Christianity sprang from! The faithful did not just convert, the Christians used an act of bloodshed.

I disagree. Talmudism masquerading as Judaism is still around. It cannot be true Judaism however as Judasim as a viable religion ceased to exist with the Old Testament becoming obsolete and replaced by the new religion, the new Church , that is Christianity.
The faithful did convert. The Apostles and Disciples and the others who first followed were former Jews who freely converted.
When did this act of bloddshed take place which forced them to become Christians?

Even though the Bible clearly says that Jesus is a Jew, there is no goddamn evidence of his existance. Christians are always talking about the "Second Coming." But, in 1914, Jesus returned to rule the world through Great Britain.

The bible tells us that Jesus was brought up in the Jewish faith until he began his ministry. That's because it was still valid up until he began to preach the "good news" (ie that all could now enjoy what formerly was promised only to the Jews).
Also, there is plenty of historical and archaeological evidence for Jesus's existence (although whether you agree he was actually God is another matter). The life of the man known as Jesus is pretty widely accepted by historians and scholars of all kinds.

Jesus returned to rule the world in 1914 through Great Britain?
Wow! That's a pretty wild claim. However, if you would like to present your beliefs in this I'd gladly listen to them.
Although, I'm puzzled that a minute ago you claimed there was no eveidence for Jesus's existence and now your saying that not only did he exist but returned to earth in 1914???

Actually I don't think I'll continue.
Just scanning through the rest of this.
Abraham a pimp, God telling people to sell their daughters, happiness is smashing babies heads of of rocks, Mary a "Jew bitch"

I can't help but feel that either
a) Your having a laugh with me
b) your off your f*cking rocker

mise le meas,

Saoirse
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 07:37 PM
<b>As for the middle part, asking why would I believe in something that sends me to Hell? Do you mean Christianity?
Believing in Christianity does not send me to Hell. I believe that by being a good Christian it will allow me to avoid Hell.
It's a bit like saying why do I believe in gravity, if it means that I would likely die if I through myself from the top of a skyscraper.
Gravity exists whether someone believes in it or not.
Similary I believe that Hell still exists, independant of whether I personally beiliev in it or not. In other words, I don't like stepping on dog sh*t, but dog sh*t will not cease to exist just because I tell myself it isn't real.</b>

God wants you to cut off most of your body parts to avoid "Hell."

Daniel 7:13 -- Jesus returns in 1914 to rule forever over everyone on earth (through the GB). Christianity claims that Jesus has a kingdom to rule the earth from all languages, nations, ect.

<b>Exactly, we are Gentiles (Non-Jews)</b>

So you openly admit that Christianity is from the Jews and gave it to the gentiles? :drsuess

<b>Actually I don't think I'll continue.</b>

Can't back a debate?

Milesian
Monday, July 7th, 2003, 09:03 PM
God wants you to cut off most of your body parts to avoid "Hell."

Really? Which parts? Where does it say that?
Or are you saying that your will power is so weak that you personally could only accomplish such things by cutting off part of your anatomy? Of course, as you haven't specified what your actually talking about, I can't say.

Daniel 7:13 -- Jesus returns in 1914 to rule forever over everyone on earth (through the GB). Christianity claims that Jesus has a kingdom to rule the earth from all languages, nations, ect.

Could you post what that verse actually says?
I'm pretty sure those aren't the words used.
Also Jesus does have a kingdom on earth. It's his Church, which trancends all borders and languages.
It's not Great Britain and it's (short-lived and now defunct) empire.

So you openly admit that Christianity is from the Jews and gave it to the gentiles?

Christianity comes from God, not the Jews.
Jesus was God, not a mere Jewish man.
Even if he was only a man, he rebelled against Judaism and taught things directly opposed to it.
The inheritance was not given by the Jews but was taken from the Jews by God and given to the Gentiles.

Can't back a debate?

Why bother? It seems that your just going for maximum offense, slandering things which are sacred to me while you seem to be promoting some far-out belief that seems to resemble that old heresy in which it was thought that the "British" (as if they were all one people) were one of the lost tribes of Israel.
Sorry if that isn't your belief, just seems your belief is something similar (GB rules the world,etc)
If that's true then where is Jesus now? Is he Tony Blair? The Queen? But then again, you said he never existed. Which makes your theory all the more bizarre