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Odin Biggles
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 03:03 PM
Same as the Irish one, but better obviously :D.

Oh Scatach you have to say something good ! :P.

Appalachian
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 03:35 PM
Wit.

Blood_Axis
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 04:33 PM
The Monty Pythons. :bow :worship

Glenlivet
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 04:58 PM
Pragmatism. Where the French are dogmatic, the English are pragmatic.

English people are very divided though. I honestly do not see see a relation between the vastly different social classes.

There is really no relation between the chavs and the English gentleman (if he is not soon extinct).

There is also a rather great north and south divide in England.

Draco
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 06:17 PM
English sense of humor (humour?).

Oskorei
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 06:24 PM
English sense of humor (humour?).
Same here.

And the early English Political Economists :)

Blood_Axis
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 06:31 PM
Nobody else likes the Monty Pythons? :D :P

Appalachian
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 06:55 PM
Nobody else likes the Monty Pythons? :D :P I think the whole wit/humo(u)r thing and Monty Python go hand in hand. :)

Theobald
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 06:58 PM
The Blitz and Hastings :P

Blood_Axis
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 06:59 PM
I think the whole wit/humo(u)r thing and Monty Python go hand in hand. :)
Right!! :nod

Appalachian
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 07:06 PM
Can't forget the top-notch food. :dlook

Aragorn
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 07:22 PM
What I do like about English? Humm... Probably English history, architecture, lierature, but i can say what I dont like about the English: their imperialism, their arogant nature, their lack of knowledge of foreign languages, their lack of understanding for the European mainland.

alphaknave
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 09:26 PM
Comedy, literature, and the crazy way they talk!

Odin Biggles
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 10:47 PM
yoire roight, ere in en-ger-land we does indeed talk funay.

The sun was shoinin' broiht dis mornin :thumbup

ah be orf now folks.

Appalachian
Thursday, March 31st, 2005, 11:46 PM
yoire roight, ere in en-ger-land we does indeed talk funay.

The sun was shoinin' broiht dis mornin :thumbup

ah be orf now folks.
Ah awways knowed 'ere wuz sump'n a might queer 'bout the way you'ns conversate o'er thur. Ah jes ne'er could put ma fanger on hit.
:hillbilly

Dr. Solar Wolff
Friday, May 27th, 2005, 02:14 AM
In many ways the English psyche has stamped itself on Americans. Example: When I hear of Prince Charles and what he has done in recent decades I realize that this behavior is terrible and violates just about every concept on every level of "English fair play". The betrayed his wife, his duty, his responsibility to his people, his image and his country's image. He betrayed his family honor. This is not the way an English gentleman behaves. I know this without anyone having to tell me this because we inherited (at least culturally) the values of our mother country--however diluted or overlayed they are with other values. For this best part of ourselves, I thank the English.

morfrain_encilgar
Friday, May 27th, 2005, 08:09 AM
There is also a rather great north and south divide in England.

Theres only the south-east which is close to the continent, because it has links to the Low Germans on the mainland. The rest of the country is closer to North Germanic and Celtic culture than it is to the mainland European culture.

The British Isles and Scandinavia arent really European countries, because apart from the south-east of Great Britain, were historically outliers from European interaction as well as being geographically seperate from continental Europe.

Rhydderch
Saturday, May 28th, 2005, 06:04 AM
but i can say what I dont like about the English: their imperialism, their arogant nature, their lack of knowledge of foreign languages,Who needs to learn a foreign language when your own is the international language of communication? ;)

But if you're comparing the English with the Dutch, then it may be a little unfair because the average Dutchman probably has a better knowledge of foreign languages (or one at least, i.e. the English language) than many other nationalities.

Rhydderch
Tuesday, May 31st, 2005, 05:32 AM
The strong character, that sense of being "sure of themselves", which is a feature of many Englishmen (becoming rarer, it would seem, among much of the younger generation), as well as the aforementioned wit and humour.

I could also add things such as folk music and the like (no, it's not just the Irish who are good at it, contrary to popular belief)


their lack of understanding for the European mainland.
Ah, yes, and their independence from (and resistance to the encroachment of) the 'continentals', many of whom are determined to bring them down.


yoire roight, ere in en-ger-land we does indeed talk funay.

The sun was shoinin' broiht dis mornin

ah be orf now folks.
And the accents, especially the regional ones (I'm not so fond of BBC and 'Estuary' English)

Jack
Tuesday, May 31st, 2005, 06:24 AM
The pragmatism, imperialism, capitalism, industrialism, the archetype of the English gentleman, what the Royal Navy used to be, corsets on English women :D Erm. Almost everything?

Aragorn
Tuesday, May 31st, 2005, 07:33 PM
Who needs to learn a foreign language when your own is the international language of communication? ;)

But if you're comparing the English with the Dutch, then it may be a little unfair because the average Dutchman probably has a better knowledge of foreign languages (or one at least, i.e. the English language) than many other nationalities.


The only reason that English today is the international language is simply because as an result of English imperialism. The English stole Canada from France, South-Africa from the Dutch, many Caribian islands from the Spanish and French, and so are there a dozen of examples. Without this imperialism, who knows, maybe the great Dutch language would have the position which the English complete today. There is no excuse, what so ever, for English imperialism...to conquer non-white areas and colonize them I would support it, but I reject the fact that one white nation stand up against the other, as only the inferieur races would benefit from it. An united white colonialism in the 18th and 19th centure could have change the face of the earth probably. Then the whites could have become the majority of the population in Africa and south-east Asia. I blame England mainly for it, despite that they are an Germanic brother nation.

morfrain_encilgar
Tuesday, May 31st, 2005, 07:57 PM
The only reason that English today is the international language is simply because as an result of English imperialism. The English stole Canada from France, South-Africa from the Dutch, many Caribian islands from the Spanish and French, and so are there a dozen of examples. Without this imperialism, who knows, maybe the great Dutch language would have the position which the English complete today. There is no excuse, what so ever, for English imperialism...to conquer non-white areas and colonize them I would support it, but I reject the fact that one white nation stand up against the other, as only the inferieur races would benefit from it. An united white colonialism in the 18th and 19th centure could have change the face of the earth probably. Then the whites could have become the majority of the population in Africa and south-east Asia. I blame England mainly for it, despite that they are an Germanic brother nation.

I suppose that nobody inhabited Canada, South Africa or the Caribbean Islands before the Dutch and French "stole" them, Agnar?

I dont support the vile actions of the British Empire during imperialism, but these were through capitalists exploiting the vulnerable, and the Glorious Revolution brought capitalism into England from Jewish-influenced centres of finance in Holland. Dutch imperialism was of the same kind as the English.

Myself, I despise the ideas of Europe and whiteness because I feel these concepts are a threat to aboriginal northern Europeans, because they celebrate geography and race not culture.

Telperion
Tuesday, May 31st, 2005, 11:58 PM
I like their pragmatic and empirical worldview, their wry sense of humor, and their traditional middle-class notions of good manners, honesty, decency, and hard work.

The food, however, is best left unmentioned. ;)

Jack
Wednesday, June 1st, 2005, 01:47 AM
The only reason that English today is the international language is simply because as an result of English imperialism. The English stole Canada from France, South-Africa from the Dutch, many Caribian islands from the Spanish and French, and so are there a dozen of examples. Without this imperialism, who knows, maybe the great Dutch language would have the position which the English complete today. There is no excuse, what so ever, for English imperialism...to conquer non-white areas and colonize them I would support it, but I reject the fact that one white nation stand up against the other, as only the inferieur races would benefit from it. An united white colonialism in the 18th and 19th centure could have change the face of the earth probably. Then the whites could have become the majority of the population in Africa and south-east Asia. I blame England mainly for it, despite that they are an Germanic brother nation.
You just resent the fact our Empire was far better than yours :D If you want to blame anyone, blame the Nazis - if they hadn't started world war two with the express purpose of annexing massive chunks of other European countries, and for colonising the Ukraine and a large section of western Russia with ethic Germans at the expense of the natives, then racialism wouldn't be discredited, Britain would not have depended on America for its survival during world war two, the European empires wouldn't have weakened and we wouldn't have all the problems we have now.

Rhydderch
Wednesday, June 1st, 2005, 03:41 AM
The only reason that English today is the international language is simply because as an result of English imperialism.Primarily I suppose, but there are probably other factors as well.


The English stole Canada from France, South-Africa from the Dutch, many Caribian islands from the Spanish and French, and so are there a dozen of examples.You think it was unfair do you? Well, in wars, it's the stronger nation who consistently wins, and it's not so clear cut as to say that one nation stole from another, because the politics is complicated in these situations. I'm sure the Spanish, French and Dutch would have 'stolen' Britain's colonies without hesitation if they had been powerful enough, and in fact, in a sense, the French stole America from Britain, because if it were'nt for French aid, America probably would'nt have won the War of Independence.


Without this imperialism, who knows, maybe the great Dutch language would have the position which the English complete today.If the Dutch nation and it's Imperialism were as strong as that of the English (and at the latter's expense), then yes, that would probably be so.
Spain and France were the other Imperial powers and their languages are among the most widely spoken in the world.


There is no excuse, what so ever, for English imperialism...Allright then, what excuses do you have for Dutch Imperialism, and for French and Spanish? ;)


I blame England mainly for it,If you don't like these nations fighting one another, then you should blame all of them. Isn't it a bit cheap just to blame the winner? :D

Prussian
Wednesday, June 1st, 2005, 04:00 AM
If you want to blame anyone, blame the NazisShame (http://www.phora.org/forum/member.php?u=68) on you Jack. :D :P

Jack
Wednesday, June 1st, 2005, 04:50 AM
Shit. This is the first time I've actually be found to contradict myself on two positions at exactly the same time *cries*

Good job, Prussian, even thought I've already admitted on the Phora I was pretending to be a Nazi :D

Prussian
Wednesday, June 1st, 2005, 04:59 AM
Good job, Prussian, even thought I've already admitted on the Phora I was pretending to be a Nazi :DWell I figured that, but I thought I'd play on it a bit anyway. :D

Jack
Wednesday, June 1st, 2005, 05:19 AM
It's ok. I still have people giving me rep points saying 'An Anglo Saxon National Socialist... Interesting' and asking on threads why I'm a Nazi :P

Nordraserei
Thursday, June 2nd, 2005, 02:44 AM
Paul Burnley and No Remorse. ;)

Hagalaz
Thursday, June 2nd, 2005, 03:48 AM
The B.N.P! Even though it's a party for the entire U.K. it still has a lot to do with England.

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, June 7th, 2005, 05:59 AM
The only reason that English today is the international language is simply because as an result of English imperialism. The English stole Canada from France, South-Africa from the Dutch, many Caribian islands from the Spanish and French, and so are there a dozen of examples. Without this imperialism, who knows, maybe the great Dutch language would have the position which the English complete today. There is no excuse, what so ever, for English imperialism...to conquer non-white areas and colonize them I would support it, but I reject the fact that one white nation stand up against the other, as only the inferieur races would benefit from it. An united white colonialism in the 18th and 19th centure could have change the face of the earth probably. Then the whites could have become the majority of the population in Africa and south-east Asia. I blame England mainly for it, despite that they are an Germanic brother nation.

Such rivarly was unavoidable. As for stole that's such a harsh word. I would venture to say the English did only what they within their power and ablities were able to do and that given the same circumstances Spain,France,and Holland would have done the same.

morfrain_encilgar
Tuesday, June 7th, 2005, 12:44 PM
Such rivarly was unavoidable. As for stole that's such a harsh word. I would venture to say the English did only what they within their power and ablities were able to do and that given the same circumstances Spain,France,and Holland would have done the same.

France and Holland did do the same, and Spanish attitudes to imperialism were totally different because they were pre-capitalist (which was good) and because of their cultural differences from us (which were bad, because they meant more fanaticism, and more slavery and plunder, than in Germanic colonialism).

Northumbria
Monday, January 9th, 2012, 10:25 PM
but i can say what I dont like about the English: their imperialism, their arogant nature, their lack of knowledge of foreign languages, their lack of understanding for the European mainland.


The British Empire was never popular with everyone, the country was always divided between the working classes who were more against it and the upper and middle classes who were more in favour.
Imperialism today is largely due to the government going against the wishes of the people and seeking to project power on the world stage by getting involved in wars. This is the government, not the people.
Arogant nature? Of course there's arrogant people amongst us, but most aren't.
Lack of languages is largely because there's never been a great need to learn other languages with English being a lingua franca. It's also because there's much less cross border contact and because there's a large group of Anglophone countries around the world. Also the state of language education is appaling. It is slowly getting better, a lot of English people learn French, German or Spanish these days.
The English don't understand the mainland because it is a world apart. England has for a long time interacted with the British Isles and Anglosphere and this has shaped its outlook. The nearest large country to England in Europe is France, most people are interested in it but there's still a bit of distrust there and that is also a major factor I think because France will inevitably play an important role in continental affairs. I think Europeans shouldn;t concern themselves too much about this, it's not like the English hate Europeans, they just like to have a degree of separation from the other nations.



Theres only the south-east which is close to the continent, because it has links to the Low Germans on the mainland. The rest of the country is closer to North Germanic and Celtic culture than it is to the mainland European culture.


Germany itself is very different from England. Some parts such as NW Germany are similar, but I'd say the Netherlands, Belgium and British Isles nations are the most similar.
Even the landscapes in the low countries and British Isles most closely mirror those of England, so too do the buildings and attitudes of the people.

The Netherlands looks a lot like Eastern England and the Fens, Walloonia (especially Liege) look similar to Western England.
This (http://www.mapcrunch.com/) is a good tool for comparing how countries look.

A lot is similar about them, I think a lot of people in England overlook this. The Belgians and Dutch are more integrated into European affairs unlike the English though.


The British Isles and Scandinavia arent really European countries, because apart from the south-east of Great Britain, were historically outliers from European interaction as well as being geographically seperate from continental Europe.

Yeah, that's quite true. Scandinavia seems to be making an effort though. :D


The only reason that English today is the international language is simply because as an result of English imperialism.

I think America played a part too. But really this mirrors Spanish, Portuguese and French, how they spread languages around the Americas and Africa.


The English stole Canada from France

John Cabot discovered Newfoundland for England, the Hudson Bay Company annexed areas which weren't controlled by France and eventually their pathetic attempt at settlement failed. The French got in the way.
The British built Canada and the French had little interest - the French basically abandoned the Quebecois because they had little interest in North America.


South-Africa from the Dutch

Agreed.


many Caribian islands from the Spanish and French

And the Dutch didn't? :D


Without this imperialism, who knows, maybe the great Dutch language would have the position which the English complete today.

The Dutch failed because they didn't start enough settler colonies like the English. The Dutch tried to get rich quick in the East Indies (and largely did). The only significant settlements of the Dutch were in South Africa.
Meanwhile the British settled Eastern America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

The Dutch failed to leave a massive legacy because they took Indonesia and then largely settled with that.


There is no excuse, what so ever, for English imperialism...to conquer non-white areas and colonize them I would support it, but I reject the fact that one white nation stand up against the other, as only the inferieur races would benefit from it.

Cry me a river, inter-European wars have always happened and the Dutch are no saints either. Inter-European wars are bad for our race, but practically every European nation is guilty of them.

The Dutch were the first Europeans to start empire building and harassed the English every time they made an attempt. Don't let Germanic brotherhood get in the way when there's money to be made eh?


An united white colonialism in the 18th and 19th centure could have change the face of the earth probably.

That happened - it's called America.


Then the whites could have become the majority of the population in Africa and south-east Asia.

No they couldn't. Whites failed miserably in attempting to settle Africa beyond Rhodesia - too many diseases and conditions they weren't adapted to.
White settlement attempts perished in most of Africa, there were plenty of attempts made to settle it beyond SA and Rhodesia. The same applied to SE Asia.

Today we could probably settle these areas due to medicines and better knowledge, but it's too late.


I blame England mainly for it, despite that they are an Germanic brother nation.

Blame your own country. The Netherlands is the one which sat contentedly in Indonesia once the British took SA.
It's not like anyone confined the Netherlands there, the Netherlands basically had little interest in starting new white settlements around the world.

France, Spain, Italy, Portugal and Germany all made new colonies, the Netherlands just sat still once it secured Indonesia.


In the end the British Empire did a lot more good for Europe than any of the others - it expanded the areas inhabited by Europeans significantly and left behind the great nations of America, Canada, NZ and Australia.

Elessar
Monday, January 9th, 2012, 10:50 PM
Humor, wit, down to earthliness, intelligence, accent.
All the English men and women I've met in my life were very kind and funny induviduals.

Sehnsucht
Monday, January 9th, 2012, 10:55 PM
I love being English. :D

Žoreišar
Monday, January 9th, 2012, 11:26 PM
Humor, wit, down to earthliness, intelligence, accent.
All the English men and women I've met in my life were very kind and funny induviduals.I feel compelled to whole-heartedly second that. :)

I especially like old, English grandpa-types (not in any weird way). I've encountered quite a few over the years, both abroad, on my own turf and within their own, natural habitat. There's something admireably refined, yet hardy and cheeky, about their manner of conduct. Something that can easily be confused with arrogance, to those not familiar with them. I, for one, love it. :)

Of course, there are other, less favorable types of Englishmen, as well. Chavs and casuals comes to mind... :S But all in all, one has got to love the English. :D

Van Wellenkamp
Tuesday, January 10th, 2012, 02:46 AM
An English woman has the most attractive accent. Plus I also love Land Rovers and English beer.

Sven
Tuesday, January 10th, 2012, 07:44 AM
English women and Strawberry Trifle!! :D:thumbup

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Barreldriver
Tuesday, January 10th, 2012, 12:46 PM
Ain't never been to England, however I feel that I may still hold a sort of fondness for the region for the simple fact that it propagated my lineage. Without England, I simply would not be alive today, at least in a manner recognizable to myself or others.