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Drömmarnas Stig
Tuesday, February 15th, 2005, 09:36 PM
This is a very difficult question.

Many would say, the atomic bomb for f***'s sake!
Yeah well, that didn't decide a war, did it?

So what was the best, the most effective weapon of the war?

I would like to propose the German 88mm anti-aircraft gun.
That sounds like an odd decision, but this gun was not only a formidable anti-aircraft gun, but also the best anti-tank gun of the entire war.
It was a multirole weapon and the best of its fields of expertise.

Sure, not many people would even mention this weapon, but still the effect was greater than any king tiger tank or jet fighter.

What else do we got?

- Pzkw. V Panther

The best tank of the war didn't see service until 1943. Its flat shaped front repelled most of the enemy projectiles.
Its speed, reliability and power was unmatched. Not as impressive as the Pzkw. VI and VII (Tiger and Königstiger) but much more important in terms of warfare.

- Aircraft Carrier

This weapon made all other naval units obsolete. Granted the needed cover, the aircraft carrier ruled the seas better than any dreadnought before in world history.
Only flaw that it couldn't play a major role in Europe, the main theatre of the war. It was and still is the queen of the seas, but not the deciding weapon of WW2 which was decided in land- and air-warfare, not at sea.

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Okay, what are your opinions?
I would love to read some jet fighter or rocket proponents! :D

nordic_canadian_male
Tuesday, February 15th, 2005, 09:57 PM
The best small arm of the war was the german sturmgewehr 44, but not many were made and it was also too late in the war. The german mg 42 is still considered one of the best machine guns ever produced, and it was responsible by itself for the much greater efficiency of the german soldier.

The best Tank was the Tiger, the original one not the kingtiger(too heavy, prone too problems). The tiger could defeat any tank in a duel, unfortubatley it most often faced 3+ shermans at once. I also would vote for the T34 of the russians because of it's simplicity which allowed it to be repaired much easier and faster than the tiger, and it was also very devastating in battle.

I never understood why Hitler never wanted to develope a semi-automatic rifle untill the late stages of the war. So don't forget the m1 Garand it was an amazing weapon for it's time.

Huzar
Tuesday, February 15th, 2005, 10:55 PM
The best small arm of the war was the german sturmgewehr 44, but not many were made and it was also too late in the war. The german mg 42 is still considered one of the best machine guns ever produced, and it was responsible by itself for the much greater efficiency of the german soldier.

The best Tank was the Tiger, the original one not the kingtiger(too heavy, prone too problems). The tiger could defeat any tank in a duel, unfortubatley it most often faced 3+ shermans at once. I also would vote for the T34 of the russians because of it's simplicity which allowed it to be repaired much easier and faster than the tiger, and it was also very devastating in battle.

I never understood why Hitler never wanted to develope a semi-automatic rifle untill the late stages of the war. So don't forget the m1 Garand it was an amazing weapon for it's time.

I agree on tiger and even on sturmgewehr 44. The last german rifles, was an example for development of kalashnikov ak 47 on soviet side, and m 16 later on american side. We can't forget u boat ( and projects for the "real" submarine, developed after by soviets). ALL german best projects were developed by others (old enemies)!!!:~(

Nightmare_Gbg
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 12:54 AM
Best weopon? That's a tough one,but i'll have to go with the MG-42.It's still in use today.

Fraxinus Excelsior
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 02:24 AM
Pistol:

M1911A1: More stopping power vs. the other pistols in service during WWII.

Rifle:

M-1 Garand: For accuracy and volume of fire; 30-06 is definitely an awesome round.

To quote Gen. George Patton (about the M-1 Garand), "The greatest battle implement ever devised".

SMG:

Ppsh-41: High rate of fire coupled with an adequately powerful cartridge.

Machine Gun:

MG-42: High rate of fire; barrel change function.

Tank:

I agree with Nibelung on the Pzkw. V Panther being the best overall tank in WWII since it was designed as the German's answer to the Soviet T-34, which was widely considered to be the best tank of the eary war period.

Ahnenerbe
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:54 AM
Best weopon? That's a tough one,but i'll have to go with the MG-42.It's still in use today.
Really? Do you have an example of people still using it?

Schutzstaffelor
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:38 AM
T-34 and Katyusha rocket hands down. not because they were the absolute "best," but because both weapons were so cost effective, easily manufactured, and easily manned that makes up for any minor weaknesses in armor and power they might have. T-34 had a very innovative sloping armour which allowed it to absorb more damage, and both the katyusha rocket and t-34 tanks were used very effectively against the germans.

Fraxinus Excelsior
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:39 AM
Really? Do you have an example of people still using it?I know that the Danish army had used MG-42's until as recently as the early '80s.

Fraxinus Excelsior
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:45 AM
T-34 had a very innovative sloping armour which allowed it to absorb more damageDon't forget the T-34's use of the Christie suspension.

Feldherr
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 07:52 AM
1.Stuka Ju 87
The Ju-87 Stuka dive bomber was the airborne element of the german blitzkrieg

2.Focke Wulf FW 190
I good Figther

3. Pzkw. Tiger I and Panther V
The two best and most successful tanks in the World War II

Gruss Feldherr

Marius
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 09:06 AM
Anti-tank: http://www.wargamer.com/Hosted/Panzer/jagdp.htm Jagdpanzer V Jagdpanther, self-propelled artillery tank destroyer.

Fighter: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap9.htm North American P-51D "Mustang"

Bomber: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16.htm Boeing B-17G "Flying Fortress"

Tank: http://www.alanhamby.com/tiger.html PanzerKampfwagen VI Tiger

The best weapon was by far the aviation. Even if on ground, Germans had the by far the best equipment, on air, they lost quite quickly the supremacy because of very heavy and difficult to manoeuvre aircrafts, who were outscored by their American counterparts. The late introduction of Me 163 (Komet) and its innovations did not change anything, since the principle of a reaction-propulsed fighter was new and still needed improvement.

Theudanaz
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 10:54 AM
Was going to say incinerators or poison-gas showers....;) But that actually brings up a better weapon of WW2: cinema, broadcast and propaganda lies inflicting wounds of guilt which cut deeper, exert greater force and whose effect lasts longer than any weapon that took limb or life during the war. One might argue that this weapon was used early enough to be considered a WW2 weapon.

Marius
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 01:00 PM
Of course, the number counts in a battle and in a war, but only when the proportion is more than 1:10, which was not always the case (as far as I know, in WWII), especially in German-American combats.

Huzar
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 01:06 PM
Of course, the number counts in a battle and in a war, but only when the proportion is more than 1:10, which was not always the case (as far as I know, in WWII), especially in German-American combats.
A similar ratio, was only on german soviet front.

Odin Biggles
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 01:36 PM
Best weapon ?

I would say propoganda.

A gun is useless if you arent fired up with a killer instinct.

Other than that, it would be the T-34, probably the most widely exported mass produced tank ever.

nordic_canadian_male
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 01:54 PM
The best weapon of ww2 was the Americasn assembly line, once mobilized the war was over.

No matter how good German engineering is, or how large German tank guns were, no Tiger was a match for a pack of shermans. From the Pacific islands to the battlefields of europe American industrial might was total.

I have to also nominate the panzerschreck, it could take out any American, or Russian withinn range.

Bismark
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:05 PM
The Panzer hands down. It played a major role in the German Conquest of Eastern Europe.

der Eiserne Adler
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:38 PM
The best weapon of ww2 was the Americasn assembly line, once mobilized the war was over.

No matter how good German engineering is, or how large German tank guns were, no Tiger was a match for a pack of shermans. From the Pacific islands to the battlefields of europe American industrial might was total.

I have to also nominate the panzerschreck, it could take out any American, or Russian withinn range.

What I don't get about this is why did Henry Ford not provide mass assembly technology to the Germans?

Mistress Klaus
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 03:54 PM
All of the above mentioned weapons of warfare bring a smile to my face. :) I've either built them in model form or flown/operated/driven them in simulated games. :D

What about the rather desperate 'vengeance' weapons like the V1, V2 and V3? :) Damn... I really like the German mind. :bravo ...

Marius
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:09 PM
A similar ratio, was only on german soviet front.

Where at the beginning, in spite of the number of forces they faced, Germans advanced without major problems. Only the harsh winter conditions and again, the lack of efficient aircraft have made the victory impossible.

Huzar
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:56 PM
Where at the beginning, in spite of the number of forces they faced, Germans advanced without major problems. Only the harsh winter conditions and again, the lack of efficient aircraft have made the victory impossible.
True. In september 1941, in the victorious battle of Smolensk, germans with only 1000 tanks, captured the entire soviet tank reserve of the central sector of front (6000 soviet tanks) in few days. Unfortunately the extreme cold of russian winter, frozen many times panzer motors without possibility of replacement.

Bluthauch
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 04:58 PM
This topic comes from good old Germany :D

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=29885

see at the Link! and poll ;)

My favourit weapon is the Tiger I and Tiger II. and the Stg44, too.
A lots of weapons are the best in there time. but we haven`t enough from this or the weapons are not perfected.

skalinger
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 05:07 PM
I also think that the german 88mm aircraft gun was the best weapon of WW2.

Effectiv against aircrafts and used as a effective anti-tank weapon.

Nightmare_Gbg
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 05:14 PM
Really? Do you have an example of people still using it?It has been rechamberd for the 7,62x51,but it's still the same design and is used by germany and italy to name a few.

Thorn
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 06:44 PM
I was drilled on the MG42 in his modern form. Modern means here, that all wooden parts are plastic now, the rest is the same. Ich just can say that gun rocks.

Fraxinus Excelsior
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 07:05 PM
It has been rechamberd for the 7,62x51,but it's still the same design and is used by germany and italy to name a few.And it's called the MG3.

SS Charlemagne
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Strange nobody said the Me 262, the first Jet fighter in the world.

Moreover
- in Tanks I would say the Tiger I and II
- In Rifle : the M1 Garant and the Gewehr 43
- In Anti-tanks weapons the Panzerfaust and the 88mm
- Machine gun : Mg 42 who is still used nowadays
- In Battleship : the Yamato and the Bismarck

Mistress Klaus
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Strange nobody said the Me 262, the first Jet fighter in the world.

Moreover
- in Tanks I would say the Tiger I and II
- In Rifle : the M1 Garant and the Gewehr 43
- In Anti-tanks weapons the Panzerfaust and the 88mm
- Machine gun : Mg 42 who is still used nowadays
- In Battleship : the Yamato and the Bismarck


:) I mentioned the Me-262 and the Junker Ju87 in a recent thread of your favourite war 'craft'. Actually I think this was on the Northern European forum. :D

Marius
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 08:19 PM
L'admiration envers le nazisme et l'Allemagne ne doivent pas obscurir la ration. Même si les allemands ont eu une bonne technique, les manques au niveau de l'aviation, ainsi que, parfois, les ordres venues ou plutôt non-venues de hauts responsables de la hiérarchie naziste ont donnés la fin connue de la guerre.

The Nazist and German admiration should not darken thinking. Even if Germans had and have good engineers, the aviation lacked the needed versatily, which the Allied eventually had. It is not only this which mattered in the fate of WWII. But also the orders arrived from the high Nazist hierarchy.

Me262 was a good one, but not good enough to outscore the American P-51 and much too late arrived. Anyway, many of the German military engineering was adopted by the Allied powers, after 1945, such as the principles of Me262.



Strange nobody said the Me 262, the first Jet fighter in the world.

Moreover
- in Tanks I would say the Tiger I and II
- In Rifle : the M1 Garant and the Gewehr 43
- In Anti-tanks weapons the Panzerfaust and the 88mm
- Machine gun : Mg 42 who is still used nowadays
- In Battleship : the Yamato and the Bismarck

Feldherr
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 08:39 PM
The Nazist and German admiration should not darken thinking. Even if Germans had and have good engineers, the aviation lacked the needed versatily, which the Allied eventually had. It is not only this which mattered in the fate of WWII. But also the orders arrived from the high Nazist hierarchy.

Me262 was a good one, but not good enough to outscore the American P-51 and much too late arrived. Anyway, many of the German military engineering was adopted by the Allied powers, after 1945, such as the principles of Me262.It is to collude also not a thinking, but to determine simply only facts. Which German technicians and the people under heaviest conditions made possible, very large is very valuable and for the further developments.
V1 rockets - V2 rockets are the Way for today's space technology.
The ME 262 is the Way for the today's jets!
That is reality, not fiction!
The technicians were the largest in their time!

Respect Feldherr

Marius
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 08:55 PM
It is to collude also not a thinking, but to determine simply only facts. Which German technicians and the people under heaviest conditions made possible, very large is very valuable and for the further developments.
V1 rockets - V2 rockets are the Way for today's space technology.
The ME 262 is the Way for the today's jets!
That is reality, not fiction!
The technicians were the largest in their time!

Respect Feldherr

True.

fenriSS_
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 09:38 PM
Can someone give me some info about the german navy? Did Germany got all the french weapons when they surrendered after the blitzkrieg? Sieg heil!

Feldherr
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 09:51 PM
http://www.feldgrau.com/pk-00000.jpg

Kriegsmarine - The Navy 1935-1945


The German Kriegsmarine, or navy, was formed in May of 1935. It was formed after the passing of the "Law for the Reconstruction of the National Defense Forces". This law brough back into existance a free standing German army, navy and airforce, something that had been essentially banned after the end of World War I.

With the end of World War I and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, the Weimar Republic - the successor to Imperial Germany - was allowed only a small defensive military force known as the Reichswehr (http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=1). The Reichswehr's size and composition was strictly controlled by the Allies in the hope that by restricting its constitution they could prevent future German military aggression. The Reichswehr consisted of 100,000 men divided between a small standing army, the Reichsheer, and a small defensive navy, the Reichsmarine.

In 1933 the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) came to power and the infamous Third Reich was born. Two years later in 1935 the Treaty of Versailles was renounced and the Reichswehr became the Wehrmacht. The newly formed Wehrmacht would still consist of an army and a navy - the renamed Heer (http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=2) and Kriegsmarine, but a new airforce was born as well - the Luftwaffe (http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=3).

The Kriegsmarine can be said to have consisted of three main components between 1935 and 1945, individual naval vessels, naval formations consisting of specific types of ships and a wide variety of ground based units. From these three main components the Kriegsmarine fielded thousands of ships and hundreds of naval formations and ground units. Between 1939 and 1945 over 1.5 million served in the Kriegsmarine. Over 65,000 were killed, over 105,000 went missing and over 21,000 were wounded. Of the 7361 men awarded the initial grade of the highest German combat honor of WWII, the Knights Cross, 318 were from the Kriegsmarine making up 4% of the total awarded.

Of all the branches of the Wehrmacht, the Kriegsmarine was the most under-appreciated. It fought against superior numbers on almost every front with a force greatly limited by a lack of effective coordination and a harsh misunderstanding from within the German High Comand (OKW). Although Allied air and naval power largely destroyed the entire German High Seas Fleet and Uboot force, the smaller and auxiliary vessels of the Kriegsmarine continued to serve effectively until the last hours of WWII. These vessels saw service along thousands of miles of coast in every theater of war and provided an important link in the backbone of the Wehrmacht.

German naval ground units also provided a critical service during WWII, manning massive guns along the Atlantic Wall in the west and naval flak and artillery units all across Western and Eastern Europe. There were also countless naval infantry, engineer and communications units as well. In the last months of WWII most all of the naval ground units were involved directly in fighting of some form or another, some naval units even took part in the Battle for Berlin in 1945.

The Kriegsmarine was offically disbanded in August of 1946 by the Allied Control Commission, although many smaller Kriegsmarine ships survived on active service, now under Allied control, as a part of the German contingent to clear the oceans and seas of mines sown by Axis and Allies alike.

http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=4

1935-1945,Kriegsmarine naval vessels (http://www.feldgrau.com/kriegsboat.html)


1935-1945,Kriegsmarine ground units (http://www.feldgrau.com/kmsground.html)


With Big Respect
Feldherr

Feldherr
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 10:33 PM
BISMARCK

http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de/db_gal_bismarck_bugbild3.jpg

TIRPITZ

http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de/db_gal_tirpitz_heck3.jpg

SCHARNHORST

http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de/db_gal_scharnhorst_backbord_von_vorn3.jp g


GNEISENAU

http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de/db_gal_gneisenau_steuerbord3.jpg

ADMIRAL GRAF SPEE

http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de/db_gal_graf_spee_bug3.jpg

Quelle:http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de (http://www.deutschekriegsmarine.de/)

With Big Respect
Feldherr

Feldherr
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 10:40 PM
http://www.feldgrau.com/pk-64347.jpg

Luftwaffe - The Airforce 1935-1945

The German Luftwaffe, or airforce, was formed in May of 1935. It was formed after the passing of the "Law for the Reconstruction of the National Defense Forces". This law brough back into existance a free standing German army, navy and airforce, something that had been essentially banned after the end of World War I.

With the end of World War I and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, the Weimar Republic - the successor to Imperial Germany - was allowed only a small defensive military force known as the Reichswehr (http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=1). The Reichswehr's size and composition was strictly controlled by the Allies in the hope that by restricting its constitution they could prevent future German military aggression. The Reichswehr consisted of 100,000 men divided between a small standing army, the Reichsheer, and a small defensive navy, the Reichsmarine. There was no provision for an airforce of any sort.

In 1933 the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) came to power and the infamous Third Reich was born. Two years later in 1935 the Treaty of Versailles was renounced and the Reichswehr became the Wehrmacht. The newly formed Wehrmacht would still consist of an army and a navy - the renamed Heer (http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=2) and Kriegsmarine (http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=4), but a new airforce was born as well - the Luftwaffe.

Although offically announced in 1935, the Luftwaffe had existed in one form or another practically since the day the treaty banning it had been signed. Initially there were Freikorps air units, then later glider and sail plane formations tasked with finding ways around the rigid restrictions of Versailles, a secret training base in the Soviet Union, and various cover organizations for the initial forming of the new German airforce.

The Luftwaffe consisted of air units that made up the majority of the German airforce, as well as Fallschrimjäger units, Luftwaffe Field Divisions, the elite Herman Göring ground formations, thousands of smaller anti-aircraft, engineer, communications and security units, and a fair number of Luftwaffe naval vessels and formations as well. Between 1939 and 1945 over 3.4 million served in the Luftwaffe. Over 165,000 were killed, over 155,000 went missing and over 192,000 were wounded. Of the 7361 men awarded the inital grade of the highest German combat honor of WWII, the Knights Cross, 1785 were from the Luftwaffe making up 24% of the total awaded.

Initially the Luftwaffe ruled the skies but thereafter fought an increasingly futile war of attrition which when combined with vital mistakes in aircraft production and utilization, was its death knoll. In the face of this the Luftwaffe produced the most successful air aces of all time. As well, the feats of the Fallschirmjäger in the first airborne operations in history are as heroic as they are tragic. German paratroops suffered appaling losses on Crete and essentially never saw large scale airborne operations again. Some Luftwaffe ground units fought well during WWII, such as certain Luftwaffe field divisions and the elite Hermann Göring formations, while other units simply served.

Ultimately the structure of the Luftwaffe was a grand relfection of its commander, Hermann Göring. He strove more so than any other branch to create a personal army with responsibilities as far reaching as possible. It was partly due to this that the Wehrmacht was ultimately defeated. The strain on resources and man power such political manuvering had was far reaching.

The Luftwaffe was offically disbanded in August of 1946 by the Allied Control Commission.


1935-1945, Luftwaffe air units (http://www.feldgrau.com/luftair.html)

1935-1945,Luftwaffe ground units (http://www.feldgrau.com/luftground.html)

http://www.feldgrau.com/main1.php?ID=3

With Big Respect
Feldherr

Huzar
Wednesday, February 16th, 2005, 11:05 PM
Banal to say but the best POTENTIAL weapon of nazi forces was NUCLEAR BOMB. (never completed by hitler scientists for several reasons)

Berliners Remember
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:08 AM
Ive read numerous books on which a single tiger would take out over 15 shermans or t34s alone.... the tigger just had more advantages. Look up a Michael Whittman, for won the knights cross for destorying over 13 on one single occasion.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:08 AM
We have to make a distinction between the best, most technically sophisticated weaponry and the most cost effective, easily mass-produced weapons which became instrumental in the war effort.

Regarding the latter:

For the Allies it had to be the T-34, the B-17, the P-51 and the Sturmovick (spelled wrong I am sure).

For the Germans (forget the Japanese and Italians) it must be the 88 mm gun, the Stuka, their tanks and armored vehicles in general used in a Blitzkrieg mode and their U-boat fleet and tactics.

Berliners Remember
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:12 AM
What I don't get about this is why did Henry Ford not provide mass assembly technology to the Germans?
because he was American....Even beileveing in the teachings of Hitler he was still American and how good would that make him look during this time?

Draco
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:42 AM
This is a very difficult question.

Many would say, the atomic bomb for f***'s sake!
Yeah well, that didn't decide a war, did it?

Okay, what are your opinions?
I would love to read some jet fighter or rocket proponents! :D

I am taking a different, holistic stance. Weapons are not that important. The human being using them is.

The best weapon of WW2, according to me:

http://www.panzertruppen.org/ss/waffensim.jpg

http://www.feldgrau.com/pk-65775.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img/img006/waffen_ss_007.jpg

http://www.valourandhorror.com/DB/IMAGE/ss_marching__md.JPEG

The Schutzstaffel were highly trained, highly motivated, and highly dedicated soldiers who were the reason the weapons (just tools) were able to work so well, despite their small numbers. They prove quality can go much farther than quantity. They gave the numerically superior Red Army a major trouncing on many occasions. The fact it was a multinational effort (Waffen-SS soldiers came from the Netherlands, Britain, France, Estonia, Norway, Bosnia, and many more) showcases the unifying aspect of National Socialism and how committed the organizaion was to draw highly talented recruits regardless of national origin.

Once again, standing by my stance its the man who operates the tool, be it rifle, airplane, or tank, that really makes the difference, I nominate the Waffen-SS as the best weapon of WW2.

Berliners Remember
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:50 AM
True. In september 1941, in the victorious battle of Smolensk, germans with only 1000 tanks, captured the entire soviet tank reserve of the central sector of front (6000 soviet tanks) in few days. Unfortunately the extreme cold of russian winter, frozen many times panzer motors without possibility of replacement.....No to metion over 90 percent of the Red air force in the east :)

Berliners Remember
Thursday, February 17th, 2005, 01:58 AM
My 2 cents... Best tank: King Tiger great armor, great gun
Best SMG: Ppsh was very reliable and high rate of fire.
Best rifle: Kar98 modified with a sniper scope was one of the finest sniper rifles produced during the war ( the Russian ones were good as well).
Best light MG: the MG42 (however the BAR was very powerfull) :)

Southern Jarl
Sunday, March 13th, 2005, 03:13 AM
Me262 was a good one, but not good enough to outscore the American P-51 and much too late arrived. Anyway, many of the German military engineering was adopted by the Allied powers, after 1945, such as the principles of Me262.Agreed. However I think that If we just compare aircrafts (not taking into account how they performed or whether they were late or not), the late German piston engined warplanes, such as the Fw 190 "Dora" and the Ta 152, were superior to the best aircraft the allied forces could offer, as the P 51.
Anyway, here's what I think:
Best Pistol: Walther P 38
Best SMG: not sure, probably the Russian Ppsh
Best rifle: Stg 44, although the M1 Garand was used much more extensively, and had a greater impact. Read somwhere that the G 43, though more modern in design, was less reliable.
Best Light Mg: MG 42
Best tank: Panther
Best strategic murderer, I mean bomber: AVRO Lancaster
It could go on, though those are the most significant weapons on each field (except Navy, which is harder to classify). And I agree that the Flak 36 88mm Anti Aircraft gun was one of the best overall weapons in WW2.
Almost Forget! Best Human element: the German soldier :)