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Scáthach
Tuesday, June 10th, 2003, 05:58 PM
lately ive been noticing an increase in people referring to a woman's role as being to have children and to be a homemaker which is all well and good,but what about women who for medical reasons (not personal/emotional ones) cannot become pregnant? are they to be viewed as practically disabled as they cannot fulfil their primary role? useless because they will not be birthing new white children into the world? barely women at all?
i think its very safe to say that the majority of women wish to have children at some stage,there are some that dont but thankfully they are few.i personally wish to have children when i am older but what if (heaven,hell etc forbid!!) i found that i couldn't? would my value as a woman decrease immediatly? i think to me,it certainly would but to the wider world would it?
its just something ive been thinking about lately,that yes, being a mother may be a woman's role in life but it is not a life given right in every case which is worrying.

Azdaja
Tuesday, June 10th, 2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Scathach
i personally wish to have children when i am older but what if (heaven,hell etc forbid!!) i found that i couldn't? would my value as a woman decrease immediatly?

Well the blunt answer is yes, it would decrease your value. It would decrease your value as a biological organism designed partially for the purpose of birthing offspring.
Would it make you worthless? Of course not. There are many ways a person can go about bettering society. Procreating is just one of them. And honestly, depending on who is procreating, it can cause far more harm than good.
Yes. Man and Woman have certain biological roles, as well as certain behavioral patterns. I think it's healthy that these roles and patterns be acted out to some extent. The idea of loud and obnoxious 'women' guzzling beer and struting around at some "dance" club is unappealing to me. It is not natural, in my opinion.
But now on the other hand, we really are all individuals. Human beings are not some lower form of life that is void of persona. Women have more to offer than their ability to give birth, and men have more to offer than the ability to inseminate women...though they certainly seem to enjoy that particular function, lol.
Understand that there is more than the simply physical that determines one's worth. There's the persona, the intelligence, experiences you've had, your Soul (if you believe in that sort of thing). ALL of these are important aspects that can help you better society. Being crippled in one area does not make you useless in other areas.

Scáthach
Tuesday, June 10th, 2003, 06:36 PM
excellent post Asdaja :)
you see the reason I started wondering is because on many racialist boards it seems people are losing grasp of the fact that ''Women have more to offer than their ability to give birth, and men have more to offer than the ability to inseminate women'' as you put it yourself.i fully believe that it is our primary function and a role i look forward to playing (i love babies!:) lol kind of offtopic!) but i just think it would be unhealthy if we ever got to the point where we began to view each other as simply ''birthing machines'' or a means to an end-ie a baby rather than other human beings of worth. thats all....i sound so hippie-ish today!

Sunne Æcern Bær
Wednesday, August 13th, 2003, 04:16 AM
The womens role is to have children and stay home and keep the home in a proper manner and raise the children to be smart and strong. There is nothing wrong with it because it is what nature intened; women who feel that it isn't what they want to do or they say they can do better things then have children and stay home they are wrong because women who start thinking or saying that they are falling into the currupted media with their feminist lures. When a women betreys their nature it damages her beauty of motherhood and warmth. I am ashamed that some women are so unadulterated to their husbands. They offer war where they should kneel for peace. Or they seek for rule, supremacy and sway, when they should be bounded to serve, love and obey.

Sigrun Christianson
Wednesday, August 13th, 2003, 04:02 PM
I agree with you, Jaði. But you & I are way more hardcore than the rest so I don't expect many to understand.

Nordhammer
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 12:24 AM
What people say and what they do are two different things. :)

Sunne Æcern Bær
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 03:14 AM
I agree with you, Jaði. But you & I are way more hardcore than the rest so I don't expect many to understand.

Its unfortunant that not many women are like us in this day in age...

Sunne Æcern Bær
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 03:16 AM
What people say and what they do are two different things. :)

What exactly do you mean by "What people say and what they do are two different things"? Are you implying anything?

Stríbog
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 03:24 AM
What exactly do you mean by "What people say and what they do are two different things"? Are you implying anything?

I don't know for sure, I presume he is taking a swipe at Sigrun because she rejected him. ;)

Sigrun Christianson
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 03:43 AM
I don't know for sure, I presume he is taking a swipe at Sigrun because she rejected him. ;)


Ohmigawd... :jaw

CelticLover
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 03:52 AM
The womens role is to have children and stay home and keep the home in a proper manner and raise the children to be smart and strong. There is nothing wrong with it because it is what nature intened; women who feel that it isn't what they want to do or they say they can do better things then have children and stay home they are wrong because women who start thinking or saying that they are falling into the currupted media with their feminist lures. When a women betreys their nature it damages her beauty of motherhood and warmth. I am ashamed that some women are so unadulterated to their husbands. They offer war where they should kneel for peace. Or they seek for rule, supremacy and sway, when they should be bounded to serve, love and obey.

Wow, excellent post :clap I agree 100%. I put off reading this thread because I didn't want to read a bunch of feminist propoganda. I was pleasantly surprised to read your post :) One of the many things that I hate about feminism is that they "look down" on women who make it their #1 priority to stay at home and raise their children - as if that's such a horrible, demeaning thing to do. What is the point of having children if you're not going to take care of them properly?? And sorry, but putting your kids in day care for 8 hours a day is not taking care of your kids properly! Suffice it say, I'm rather "old fashioned" in my beliefs (and proud of it) ;)

Nordhammer
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 04:04 AM
I don't know for sure, I presume he is taking a swipe at Sigrun because she rejected him. ;)

LOL You two are way too conceited. The world doesn't revolve around you or Sigrun. :) My statement was a general one.

You like to gossip, don't you Stribog?

Borivoj
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 08:17 PM
Personally I like strong minded, intelligent women. If I had a wife I woudn't mind if she would wanted to work outside the home or not (not that we will probably have a choice because of finances) I know that I will share the burden of child rearing, so I don't think that my future children will probably suffer having a father raising them as well as a mother. Anyway, thats my personal opinion...

Sigrun Christianson
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 08:55 PM
Premisyl,

Simply because a women works outside the home does not make her strong-minded or intelligent. Also, being 'just' a housewife does not mean that she is unintelligent, weak-willed, or incapable of anything else. You don't thinks it takes intelligence and strength of character and will to manage household full of children and a man? ;) You're in for quite a shock, should you ever be so blessed.

My Mother and Grandmother, both housewives with college degrees, are intelligent, strong-willed, and were/are perfectly capable of working outside the home, but they found raising their children and taking care of their homes to be more important to them. Because of their priorities, they had to sacrifice some of the little luxuries that two-income families have. However, if you ask either of them, they will tell you in their very intelligent and strong-willed ways that it was totally worth it to forgo the new cars, clothes & vacations to be able to raise their kids themselves.

Sigrun

Ewergrin
Thursday, August 14th, 2003, 11:59 PM
The womens role is to have children and stay home and keep the home in a proper manner and raise the children to be smart and strong. There is nothing wrong with it because it is what nature intened; women who feel that it isn't what they want to do or they say they can do better things then have children and stay home they are wrong because women who start thinking or saying that they are falling into the currupted media with their feminist lures. When a women betreys their nature it damages her beauty of motherhood and warmth. I am ashamed that some women are so unadulterated to their husbands. They offer war where they should kneel for peace. Or they seek for rule, supremacy and sway, when they should be bounded to serve, love and obey.



What a splendid post! I wish you had told that to my ex wife!
I believe in exactly what you have said.

Scáthach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 12:17 AM
it all sounds perfect to me, provided you have a wonderful husband to love, honour and obey and not a horrible man to manipulate the woman's good intentions..but i intend to not marry a man like that of course when the time comes ;)

Nordhammer
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 12:28 AM
I think that's one of the flaws of modern-day women. Women still hold men to high standards, yet women have been given a free pass to say anything and do anything without judgement. They are held to little or no standards of behavior. Chivalry is dead for a reason.

Ewergrin
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 12:39 AM
I think that's one of the flaws of modern-day women. Women still hold men to high standards, yet women have been given a free pass to say anything and do anything without judgement. They are held to little or no standards of behavior. Chivalry is dead for a reason.



Very well written statement. An observation I have noted as well.

Nordhammer
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 01:02 AM
Very well written statement. An observation I have noted as well.

Thank you, sir.

Scáthach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 01:18 AM
i hold myself to very nice standards thank you very much, you're assuming the opposite was certainly far from chivalrous - or civility at that.

Ewergrin
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 01:22 AM
i hold myself to very nice standards thank you very much, you're assuming the opposite was certainly far from chivalrous - or civility at that.


I really dont think his statement was directed towards you in any way, but rather a blanket statement, summerizing the attitudes of the majority of modern women. We know that there are a few diamonds in the rough, so to speak. Finding a good white woman with a strong moral code and sound ethics who knows her roll in todays society is much like finding a diamond in a goats ass, as I like to say.

Be the diamond!
Shine!

Scáthach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 01:32 AM
ok, fair enough,i assumed he was directing it to me since i had just said i looked for a man of high morals, judgement and standards...and well that i should considering i believe myself to be the same and deserving of such a man :)

ps your end line put pink floyd in my head...shine on you crazy diamonds...oh dear...lol

Phlegethon
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 01:44 AM
Chivalry is dead for a reason.

Nah, it's not. It's just hiding and waiting for better times.

Borivoj
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 01:46 AM
Premisyl,

Simply because a women works outside the home does not make her strong-minded or intelligent. Also, being 'just' a housewife does not mean that she is unintelligent, weak-willed, or incapable of anything else. You don't thinks it takes intelligence and strength of character and will to manage household full of children and a man? ;) You're in for quite a shock, should you ever be so blessed.

My Mother and Grandmother, both housewives with college degrees, are intelligent, strong-willed, and were/are perfectly capable of working outside the home, but they found raising their children and taking care of their homes to be more important to them. Because of their priorities, they had to sacrifice some of the little luxuries that two-income families have. However, if you ask either of them, they will tell you in their very intelligent and strong-willed ways that it was totally worth it to forgo the new cars, clothes & vacations to be able to raise their kids themselves.

Sigrun

I hope you didn't misinterpret me, I was in a rush. :sprint When did I say that women who work in the home are not strong minded or intelligent? I said that I wouldn't mind if she worked outside the home or not because I would help her raise the children and do the housework. I've been doing it most of my life for my two siblings since both my parents worked 10-12 hour shifts. My father didn't do any house work so it was my mother and I who split the work. I have a very good idea of what the problems of a working woman are, and hopefully it will help me in the future. :birds :)

Ted Roach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 08:24 PM
A women's role is in the kitchen.

Scáthach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 08:50 PM
care to elaborate at all, Ted?

Allenson
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 09:55 PM
lately ive been noticing an increase in people referring to a woman's role as being to have children and to be a homemaker which is all well and good,but what about women who for medical reasons (not personal/emotional ones) cannot become pregnant? are they to be viewed as practically disabled as they cannot fulfil their primary role? useless because they will not be birthing new white children into the world? barely women at all?
i think its very safe to say that the majority of women wish to have children at some stage,there are some that dont but thankfully they are few.i personally wish to have children when i am older but what if (heaven,hell etc forbid!!) i found that i couldn't? would my value as a woman decrease immediatly? i think to me,it certainly would but to the wider world would it?
its just something ive been thinking about lately,that yes, being a mother may be a woman's role in life but it is not a life given right in every case which is worrying.


I would never view a woman who can't have children as "disabled" or "useless". Sure, they may not have the capacity to fulfill their biological/reproductive role but they can certainly still be valuable members of a society. Woman are better educators than men in my eyes and this is niche in which a "barren" woman might fill quite successfully....in schools, daycare centers, etc.

In a more traditional, earth-based society than the one in which we now live, there would have been plenty to do for a woman who could not have children. Such as, care for other children when another mother is away or sick, care for elderly members of the tribe, weaving, gathering food and resources, food preparation and a host of other 'tasks'.

So no Scathach, personally I would not view a sterile woman as useless. That would be quite silly and rather a folly IMHO.

Allenson
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 09:56 PM
BTW, I very much like what Azdaja had to say and I certainly agree with his view point on this matter...

Scáthach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 10:02 PM
you make some good points of course, but if i were unable to have children i would feel perfectly useless and caring for other people's children would probably not help at all ;) i think most women would feel rather useless, to a degree. Obviously it could be overcome i suppose and a happy life lived but i dont think it would ever be a completely fulfilled life and thats the difference. Of course, i wrote this ages ago and i think i was in quite a bad mood judging by the way i sound as i re-read it just there ;)

Saoirse
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 10:18 PM
"Men make history, but women raise the men" -- Goebbels

"The woman has always been not only the man's sexual companion, but also his fellow worker. Long ago, she did heavy labor with the man in the field. She moved with him into the cities, entering the offices and factories, doing her share of the work for which she was best suited. She did this with all her abilities, her loyalty, her selfless devotion, her readiness to sacrifice.

The woman in public life today is no different than the women of the past. No one who understands the modern age would have the crazy idea of driving women from public life, from work, profession, and bread winning. But it must also be said that those things that belong to the man must remain his. That includes politics and the military. That is not to disparage women, only a recognition of how she can best use her talents and abilities." -- Goebbels

Ted Roach
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 11:49 PM
care to elaborate at all, Ted?


Well when their not in the kitchen they should be in the bedroom.

Stríbog
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Well when their not in the kitchen they should be in the bedroom.

Wow!! I've always wanted to meet a real, live caveman!!!

Ewergrin
Friday, August 15th, 2003, 11:53 PM
Well when their not in the kitchen they should be in the bedroom.

I am willing to place a bet that you do not "have" a woman in your real life. And if you DO, by chance, have one, than I will wager that she isn't aware of you absurd statements.


Please, feel free to back up your theory with a substantial and literate reply.

Ted Roach
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:00 AM
I am willing to place a bet that you do not "have" a woman in your real life. And if you DO, by chance, have one, than I will wager that she isn't aware of you absurd statements.


Please, feel free to back up your theory with a substantial and literate reply.


Your right I killed me wife because she wouldint make the dinner :king

Ewergrin
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:03 AM
Your right I killed me wife because she wouldint make the dinner :king


Mods of this subforum? Anywhere? Is this the type of behaviour that is tolerated here?

Nordhammer
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:06 AM
I don't think he's serious.

Ewergrin
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:10 AM
He fooled me. If he IS joking, then perhaps he should elaborate already and make a serious post that contributes to the quality of this thread (which was high) instead of reducing it.

Stríbog
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:19 AM
He fooled me. If he IS joking, then perhaps he should elaborate already and make a serious post that contributes to the quality of this thread (which was high) instead of reducing it.

He has been warned.

Scáthach
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:27 AM
Right, Ted, next time you ask me to leaflet, help out with the Revisionist Education Org or join the DPP, i will tell you im too busy with my baking...

Sunne Æcern Bær
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 12:57 AM
What a splendid post! I wish you had told that to my ex wife!
I believe in exactly what you have said.

Thank you.

Saoirse
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 01:01 AM
What a bunch of nonsense. If i had time for a girl (Irish of course), id treat her like a queen.

Stríbog
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 01:10 AM
What a bunch of nonsense. If i had time for a girl (Irish of course), id treat her like a queen.

Back when you were Russian Nationalist, would it have been a Russian girl of course? :P

Saoirse
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 01:11 AM
Actually, I'd pick an Irish girl over a Russian.

Scáthach
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 01:26 AM
can't complain with statements like those :D

Ominous Lord Spoonblade
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 06:42 AM
I found the statements of Ted Roach rather funny. You feminists should take it easy :P

Seriously though, it's not the biggest deal as long as the useless comments cease. Stribog says that he has been warned and that's good enough for me.

Phlegethon
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 09:30 AM
I would not quote Goebbels on women, as it is known that Goebbels cheated his wife over and over again, chased every skirt within his reach and was referred top as the "horny goat of Babelsberg" by Berliners.

Evolved
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 09:55 AM
An infertile couple could adopt or hire a surrogate mother/sperm donor. Or use fertility drugs which give them 5-6 kids at once, but that is too much too soon for most people. :yikes

Phlegethon
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 10:03 AM
Actually, I'd pick an Irish girl over a Russian.


But the stress is on "girl", right? ;)

Sigrun Christianson
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 04:21 PM
I'm quite sure that Roach was joking. Relax, people. I thought it was my job to be the kill-joy of the board.

Phlegethon
Saturday, August 16th, 2003, 08:51 PM
And I thought it is my job. ;)

Sigrun Christianson
Thursday, August 28th, 2003, 04:34 PM
Don't you dare try to usurp my role as Queen B!tch!

Mistress Klaus
Sunday, March 7th, 2004, 08:19 AM
[QUOTE=Azdaja The idea of loud and obnoxious 'women' guzzling beer and struting around at some "dance" club is unappealing to me. It is not natural, in my opinion.
[/QUOTE]


OH?...But it is ok for males to do? :grind

blut-ehre
Sunday, March 7th, 2004, 08:49 AM
[QUOTE=Azdaja The idea of loud and obnoxious 'women' guzzling beer and struting around at some "dance" club is unappealing to me. It is not natural, in my opinion.




OH?...But it is ok for males to do? :grind

mm *little insertion of my own* :D that is a weird one to answer , probably it would have to be no, possibly yes if it is to celebrate something but that means it's always ok for girls during that time mhm ? lol but i guess it's not :|

sciath
Sunday, March 7th, 2004, 08:51 AM
[QUOTE=Azdaja The idea of loud and obnoxious 'women' guzzling beer and struting around at some "dance" club is unappealing to me. It is not natural, in my opinion.



OH?...But it is ok for males to do? :grind[/QUOTE]

I fancy my wife going to dance club and guzzling beer ! I can watch my own TV program :D and when she is back, she is in splendid mood ! ;) ;)

Willowsprout
Sunday, March 7th, 2004, 10:49 AM
No woman is any less for not being able to have children EVER.It takes a village to raise a child and there is always need for maternal love somewhere.
I am one who believes that the man should provide the woman should care for the home and children( if it applies).I think taking care of a home and family is pretty damn important. I think alot of feminist screwed things over now making it difficult to be a stay at home mom and do this. Now most woman have to work to make ends meet. Screwing up the whole buisness.I believe you should have a good and honest relationship with your husband learn from each other and respect each other. Not be subserviant but make both houses work financial and home.Whats wrong with the old fashion way. I have not lost voicing my opinion on anything.Everything is so rushed and about money etc.

sciath
Monday, March 8th, 2004, 01:39 AM
that is a weird one to answer , probably it would have to be no, possibly yes if it is to celebrate something but that means it's always ok for girls during that time mhm ? lol but i guess it's not :|

Going out for a woman isn't a problem if you trust her ! She can have good time on her own! It's not good for couples to stay always together. You need to oxygenate yourself.
And guys, don't fear the comparisons with the lads outside :D :D

Mistress Klaus
Tuesday, March 9th, 2004, 03:31 AM
I have never had the maternal instinct & I dare anybody to call me useless, worthless, selfish or any other words people like to fling around.

I find the idea that Every woman should bear children in her lifetime rather absurd & not very practical. We are already at a breaking pointing with overpopulation, poverty, drug addiction, unemployment etc....we need the balance of non-childbearing couples as well.

Also the cliched statement 'a woman's role is to give birth...etc', what about the undesirable races...are they included too?. (they seem to breed like flies...). And also...what about men?...if they don't actually inseminate a woman...are they worthless too?

No I really am a bit disgusted how the most important & serious action of creating another human being is treated rather lightly. Any freak seems to be allowed to have children!
There should be a law to eradicate mental & physical defects in the gene pool. (both parents should be screened for genetic defects that they will pass on). If a baby is born with defects it should be relieved of its misery & terminated (for the good of the human race....it wasn't mean't to live). A Means test. (can you actually afford to bring up a child properly?). A stable environment with both parents TOGETHER during the childs upbringing). No drug or alcohol addictions. A limit of 2 children per couple. etc..etc...
Now if everyone just followed these rules, the earth would be a better place.
I would rather live in a green forest with a minimal population of excellent specimens, than a shit concrete jungle slum of over-populated filth....sucking the life out the one thing that actually gave humans the opportunity to even exist in the first place......Mother Earth. This is the mother that I admire.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, March 9th, 2004, 06:29 AM
There should be a law to eradicate mental & physical defects in the gene pool. (both parents should be screened for genetic defects that they will pass on). If a baby is born with defects it should be relieved of its misery & terminated (for the good of the human race....it wasn't mean't to live). A Means test. (can you actually afford to bring up a child properly?). A stable environment with both parents TOGETHER during the childs upbringing). No drug or alcohol addictions. A limit of 2 children per couple. etc..etc...
Now if everyone just followed these rules, the earth would be a better place.
I would rather live in a green forest with a minimal population of excellent specimens, than a shit concrete jungle slum of over-populated filth....sucking the life out the one thing that actually gave humans the opportunity to even exist in the first place......Mother Earth. This is the mother that I admire.

:iloveyou

Certainly you would create quality children if you ever desired it. Few people, especially women, think this way. And it's so true.

Taras Bulba
Tuesday, March 9th, 2004, 06:40 AM
Actually, I'd pick an Irish girl over a Russian.

I'd pick the Russian girl over any Irish one. Sorry Scathach! :D ;)

I adhere to the traditional Orthodox Russian view that women first and foremost should be good mothers and good loyal wives to their husbands. Many Russian women have jobs, but family comes first in their lives. The single career woman that is common in the US and throughout the West is largely unknown in Eastern Europe; which luckily is having a revival of traditional values in the wake of communism's collaspe.

Outta respect for the women here, I won't post some very interesting quotes and proverbs I've found on this topic! :D ;)

old aryan
Tuesday, March 9th, 2004, 07:19 AM
I'd pick the Russian girl over any Irish one. Sorry Scathach! :D ;)

I adhere to the traditional Orthodox Russian view that women first and foremost should be good mothers and good loyal wives to their husbands. Many Russian women have jobs, but family comes first in their lives. The single career woman that is common in the US and throughout the West is largely unknown in Eastern Europe; which luckily is having a revival of traditional values in the wake of communism's collaspe.

Outta respect for the women here, I won't post some very interesting quotes and proverbs I've found on this topic! :D ;)
Women really have to decide what they want to be......they cannot be everything and do everything. If they try, so is also true of men, they are on a one-way ticket to the insane asylum.
To be a god mother, a woman should do just that....no more, and no less.
If a woman decides on a career...then she should be that career woman. But to try to do both simultaneously can be a true disaster. Society's future depends upon the proper raising of children -- educationally, socially, emotionally, nutritionally, and in every which way -- a maid or au pair cannot do a good job of this, nor can a bedraggled career woman, strained to the max.
The American NOW organization has done a great disservice to women by not being honest on this subject. They demean the role of mother & wife, and everyone suffers as a married woman with children tries to do the impossible by being everything to everyone.
As in all things....KIIS -- KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID is the rule that everyone should follow in planning and conducting their lives, for the sake of themselves, their immediate families, and the family or state (see country) that they are citizens of.
All you ladies need to get real on this....and all you men who disagree, well, I've got some swamp land that I want to sell to you, 'cuz you been smoking something strange for too long. A 2 income family, in the start or onward, doesn't work if thee are kids to raise, and raise correctly.:) :D

Esther_Helena
Tuesday, March 9th, 2004, 08:33 AM
I'll admit, I didn't read the last few posts. The first ones made me quite upset. I took it to mean they saw women as chattel (sp?) :angry. I do believe that children are a very important part of being a woman. As for obeying... as long as he obeys me too. :P What about women who aren't married or dating? What about single mothers? I disagree that some people shouldn't have children. Two excellent people can have a crap child, and two crap people can have an excellent child. Also some are meant to have children, but not raise them... Example - me (as in the child). My parents were.. crap parents. I'll leave it at that. I was raised by the same people who raised my mother (related). As for my place? My place is where ever I feel like being. And it's not in politics or military. I haven't got a hateful bone in my body. Overprotective bones yes... hateful - no. My place is only in the kitchen if you'd like for your house to be burned to the ground. :P . I am also against sperm and egg donors. If you can't have a kid of your own, adopt one! I'd hate to think that there was a kid or fifteen of mine out there that I didn't know about. :-O In a very simplistic sense, to me the perfect woman would be Eowyn... She can stand up for herself and her people/family when it's necessary, but well aside from her bad cooking. lol...read the books.

Sunne Æcern Bær
Friday, July 2nd, 2004, 07:39 PM
I have never had the maternal instinct & I dare anybody to call me useless, worthless, selfish or any other words people like to fling around.

I find the idea that Every woman should bear children in her lifetime rather absurd & not very practical. We are already at a breaking pointing with overpopulation, poverty, drug addiction, unemployment etc....we need the balance of non-childbearing couples as well.

Also the cliched statement 'a woman's role is to give birth...etc', what about the undesirable races...are they included too?. (they seem to breed like flies...). And also...what about men?...if they don't actually inseminate a woman...are they worthless too?

No I really am a bit disgusted how the most important & serious action of creating another human being is treated rather lightly. Any freak seems to be allowed to have children!
There should be a law to eradicate mental & physical defects in the gene pool. (both parents should be screened for genetic defects that they will pass on). If a baby is born with defects it should be relieved of its misery & terminated (for the good of the human race....it wasn't mean't to live). A Means test. (can you actually afford to bring up a child properly?). A stable environment with both parents TOGETHER during the childs upbringing). No drug or alcohol addictions. A limit of 2 children per couple. etc..etc...
Now if everyone just followed these rules, the earth would be a better place.
I would rather live in a green forest with a minimal population of excellent specimens, than a shit concrete jungle slum of over-populated filth....sucking the life out the one thing that actually gave humans the opportunity to even exist in the first place......Mother Earth. This is the mother that I admire.

First off there is only one "undesirable race" which is the race that Yahweh (Demiurg) created which is the Zionist. Other races just have been corrupted because they are weaker because they were not strong enough to keep their true energy. For an example...I will use the term "Niggers" when talking about Africans who have been corrupted and are traitors to their true people. Also when you said "And also...what about men?...if they don't actually inseminate a woman...are they worthless too?" Yes a "man" who cannot inseminate a women is pretty much worthless because nature intend a man to do that, and if he cannot do that then he has tanted blood (defect). For the time being if he can do other things to help then that is fine but everyone who is of darkness, will be executed, and then the ones who have been talking by the darkness will die off. As for what you said "There should be a law to eradicate mental & physical defects in the gene pool." Yes, that should again be a law, but with Yahweh in stronger power for the time being it will not come into place.