View Full Version : Jews Going After Demjanjuk AGAIN

Mac Seafraidh
Monday, May 3rd, 2004, 06:09 AM
Alleged Nazi guard loses appeal

A US court has ruled that a Ukrainian immigrant should be stripped of his American citizenship because he served as a guard in Nazi death camp.

The appeal court upheld a 2002 decision by a Cleveland federal judge who revoked John Demjanjuk's citizenship.

The judge in 2002 found "clear, unequivocal and convincing evidence" that he served as a guard in concentration camps, the court said.

Mr Demjanjuk, 84, had argued that he was a prisoner of war, not a guard.

His family have vowed to challenge the ruling.

"He is slipping. He's not well," said Ed Nishnic, his son-in-law and family spokesman.

Conviction quashed

The 2002 case was the US Justice Department's second attempt to strip John Demjanjuk - known as Ivan in his homeland - of his citizenship.

Mr Demjanjuk, who gained entry into the United States in 1951 claiming he had spent much of the war as a German prisoner captured in the Crimea from the Soviet army, was first charged with war crimes in 1977.

He first lost his citizenship in 1981, after a court ruled that he had lied about his wartime past.

Mr Demjanjuk, it was said, had worked at the Treblinka concentration camp, in Poland, where he was known as "Ivan the Terrible".

On losing his citizenship, he was extradited to Israel, where he was tried and sentenced to death in 1988.

But his conviction was quashed five years later by the Israeli Supreme Court, after evidence suggested that another Ukrainian was Ivan the Terrible.
Mr Demjanjuk returned to the United States, where judges reprimanded the Justice Department and then restored his citizenship.
The 2002 case ruled there was concrete evidence that he had worked in other Nazis death camps, other than Treblinka.


Free Zundel Now
Sunday, December 19th, 2004, 12:03 AM
Jews Going After Demjanjuk Again
By Charles Coughlin

Believe it or not, John Demjanjuk is being persecuted again. A Reuters article (Ref. 1) reports "The U.S. government said on Friday it had asked an immigration judge to deport John Demjanjuk, a Ukrainian immigrant and retired auto-worker... The United States accused Demjanjuk in 1977 of being the Nazi guard "Ivan the Terrible" at the Treblinka death camp. Extradited to Israel, he was tried and sentenced to death. But subsequent evidence from the former Soviet Union undermined eyewitness testimony from death camp survivors, and Israel's supreme court freed him in 1993."

Demjanjuk was stripped of his US citizenship, deported to Israel (a nation that did not exist at the time of his alleged offenses) and sentenced to death. Congressman James Traficant heroically fought for Demjanjuk and helped bring key evidence into the public eye. (Later Traficant would be framed up and sent to jail in retaliation for his role in obstructing Israeli "justice.") The ID card used to convict Demjanjuk was a forgery, and it was conclusively proven that he was not the so-called "Ivan the Terrible" which the Jewish media called him over and over with no thought of his possible innocence. The evidence clearing Demjanjuk was too overwhelming for even the Israelis to ignore. Murdering a clearly innocent man would be a little bit much especially with that "Jesus incident" still hanging over their heads.

A normal, sane nation would be grateful that a miscarriage of justice was avoided. But not Israel. The Jews have been making nonstop efforts to invent new charges against Demjanjuk to rationalize their earlier persecution. It seems like these Jews are suggesting "If he wasn't guilty of the original charges, then he must be guilty of something else." Ever since Demjanjuk was released back to the US, there have been suggestions that Demjanjuk would be deported again. This time however he would be deported to the Ukraine, where he would get a fair hearing. So why bother? By deporting Demjanjuk --again-- the Jews feel they can claim a partial victory and whitewash their earlier attempt to murder him.

The original case against Demjanjuk prepared by the mostly Jewish Office of Special Investigations (Ref. 3) used your tax dollars and relied on forgery and perjury. The cases brought by the OSI have targeted so-called Nazi war criminals while not one Jewish commissar, who slaughtered White Christians during World War Two, has ever been charged. The Jews are claiming that they have more (cough) evidence against Demjanjuk and that our court system and immigration service should persecute this elderly American citizen one more time.

One web site (Ref. 2) reports about Demjanjuk's trial in Israel "At the most recent trial of John Demjanjuk in Cleveland, spread over seven days between 29-May-2001 and 07-Jun-2001, and for which we still await the court's decision, defense attorney Michael Tigar demonstrated that he was not lacking in courage when prosecutor Jonathan Drimmer tried to introduce a statement made by John Demjanjuk in Israel, Michael Tigar asked that all John Demjanjuk statements made in Israel be excluded on the grounds that they had been extracted under torture..."

Demjanjuk is shown in this 1993 file photo opon his return to
the U.S. from an Israeli jail. [Reuters]

1). US Seeks to Deport Accused Nazi Demjanjuk (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20041218/wl_nm/crime_nazi_dc)

2). John Demjanjuk Was Tortured In Israel (http://www.ukar.org/dersho10.html)

3). Head Of 'The Office of Special Investigations' Disbarred (http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/09/Neal_Sher_disbarred.html)

Source (http://www.whitecivilrights.com/commentaries/viewnews.cgi?newsid1103348854,76931,)

Thursday, December 29th, 2005, 09:03 AM
US to deport alleged Nazi guard

An 85-year-old man accused of having been a guard at a Nazi death camp is to be deported from the US to his native Ukraine, an immigration judge has said.


John Demjanjuk lost his US citizenship in 2002 after a judge said there was proof he had worked at Nazi camps.

He has denied the allegations and his lawyers argued he would be tortured if sent back to Ukraine.

Mr Demjanjuk migrated to the US in 1951 and was briefly deported to Israel amid a 30-year legal battle over his past.

At the time, he was suspected of having been a notorious concentration camp guard, known by the nickname "Ivan the Terrible".

But his name was eventually cleared in an Israeli court and he was spared the death penalty.

He returned to the US and his citizenship - which he had lost for allegedly lying to US immigration officials - was restored.

However, in 2002, an immigration judge ruled that there was enough evidence to prove Mr Demjanjuk had been a guard at several Nazi death camps and again stripped him of his citizenship.

He lost an appeal against the decision in 2004.

Mr Demjanjuk now has 30 days to appeal against the latest order for his deportation.

US immigration judge Michael Creppy said there was no evidence to prove his claim that he would tortured if returned to the Ukraine.

Mr Demjanjuk's lawyer had argued that deporting him to Ukraine would be like throwing him "into a shark tank".

Mr Demjanjuk has always insisted he was a prisoner of war with the Nazis, rather than a guard serving under them.

But his 2002 trial found that he had been an armed guard at the Sobibor, Majdanek and Flossenburg concentration camps where tens of thousands of Jews were executed in gas chambers.

Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4565806.stm)

Thursday, December 29th, 2005, 10:08 AM
I read this and was filled with disgust. It seems crueller to haunt and pursue this excellent citizen of elderly status than what he is accused of having done without reparation for the "libel and slander" that has surely affected his way of life negatively. If only usury and greed were named war-crime! we might scour these persecutors all from the ends of the earth for their misdeeds.

Thursday, December 29th, 2005, 10:34 AM
Hmmm, But what is worse? Being foolishly and forever persecuted or denying the cause that you worked and fought for?

Dr. Solar Wolff
Saturday, December 31st, 2005, 05:47 AM
This is interesting. The United States of America has no teaty of deportation with Israel. In fact, Israelis come to the US, steal as much as they can involving white collar crime and once they get on an El Al flight, we can't touch them and Israel will not send them back. This is also true for violent crimes such as murder. So, why did the US send this guy to Israel in the first place?

Secondly, the Israelis tried this guy for being Ivan the Terrible and then a witness came forward and said he was the wrong guy. The Israelis had already sentenced him to death. How embarrassing for them. Can you imagine them now holding a second trial and claiming, now, that he was someone else? I think any good defense lawyer in the Ukraine could prevent a second conviction.

Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 12:01 AM
'Nazi guard' loses last US appeal

A man accused of being a guard at a Nazi death camp during World War II has finally lost his legal fight to stay in the United States.

John Demjanjuk, 88, migrated to the US in the 1950s. He was extradited to Israel and sentenced to death for war crimes, but the ruling was overturned.
He returned to the US but was accused of lying on his immigration application about working for the Nazis.

The US Supreme Court has now rejected his appeal against deportation.

The BBC's Jack Izzard in Washington says it remains unclear whether any country is willing to take Mr Demjanjuk in - or prosecute him again... (continues)


EQ Fighter
Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 05:59 AM
He returned to the US but was accused of lying on his immigration application about working for the Nazis.

I find it Hilarious that the court is so concerned about a guy, who was an insignificant member of the Nazi Party.

Especially considering they are not considered, with current drug runners, and coyotes that are running all sorts of scum into the United States across the Mexican border, and doing it daily.

But his name was eventually cleared in an Israeli court and he was spared the death penalty.

They should have taken a clue from that, right there.

Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 06:55 AM
I find it Hilarious that the court is so concerned about a guy, who was an insignificant member of the Nazi Party.

He wasn't a member of the Nazi party or the SS. He was a former Red Army soldier held in a labor camp in Poland during the war. He had nothing to do with concentration camps whatsoever. He is also accused of operating the mythical "diesel gas chambers" at Treblinka. The U.S. government deliberately held evidence in his favor. OSI attorney Neal Sher (http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1063212012024) was responsible for the original prosecution of Demjanjuk and he was disbarred for embezzling from a Holocaust foundation. This whole case is about the crooked and corrupt war crimes hoax bureaucracy and Holocaust industry destroying an innocent man's life to keep their phony atrocities in the newspapers, and keep those dollars rolling into their (in)Tolerance Museums.

Tuesday, May 20th, 2008, 07:22 AM
I just read about this.

It is not surprising. People think being a "Nazi" was something amazing (in the horrific sense). When you look at the amount of "Nazis", if you ever meet one, it would no longer be such a big deal.

Many people also think that if you fought for Germany in that period, you are also bad. But at its height, the Wehrmacht was nearly employing 20 million people.

It's typical behaviour from socialised dumbasses who are taught what to fear and what to embrace.