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Rollon
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:23 PM
Hi Everybody.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Rollon, which is the French (derived from Latin) name for Rolf, who as a Viking was the first Great Duke of Normandy, and the Father of the Normans, who later conquered, among many other achievements, the British Isles under William the Conqueror.

I devote my time to troll-baiting, which means I see as my duty to protect the Race against the evil enterprises of alien fiends. I come here to share my experiences on that and learn about others' experience.

You see on my profile that I am a member of the Adult forum. I confess that I clicked on the wrong place. I am asking the webmaster to remove me from this quagmire of insanities. You may find it hypocritical ; man will man, but I do not want to waste a second of my time, entirely devoted to the cause of the Aryan Race.

May it rule for a thousand years over the mud races.

Siegfried
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:27 PM
You can unsubscribe yourself from the Adult forum whenever you want. Check your User CP.

Rollon
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Thank you.

I unsuscribed but my membership to the Adult Forum still appears on my public profile.

Northern Paladin
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Hi Everybody.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Rollon, which is the French (derived from Latin) name for Rolf, who as a Viking was the first Great Duke of Normandy, and the Father of the Normans, who later conquered, among many other achievements, the British Isles under William the Conqueror.

I devote my time to troll-baiting, which means I see as my duty to protect the Race against the evil enterprises of alien fiends. I come here to share my experiences on that and learn about others' experience.

You see on my profile that I am a member of the Adult forum. I confess that I clicked on the wrong place. I am asking the webmaster to remove me from this quagmire of insanities. You may find it hypocritical ; man will man, but I do not want to waste a second of my time, entirely devoted to the cause of the Aryan Race.

May it rule for a thousand years over the mud races.

Make yourself at home. Feel free to jump into the thick of things. You sound like an intelligent young man with a heart in the right place.

Good to have you here Rollon!

Siegfried
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:45 PM
Thank you.

I unsuscribed but my membership to the Adult Forum still appears on my public profile.

Strange. It appears you're still a member. You should be able to unsubscribe yourself. In your User CP, scroll down and click 'Group Memberships' under 'Miscellaneous'. You will see a list of groups you can join, and a list of groups you are already a member of. Now click 'Leave Group' next to 'Adult'.

Rollon
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:49 PM
OK It works. Now I regret to have introduced myself that way, because it is a proof that I was once a member of the Adult Forum !!! :-O

Jolan Freyrsson
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 07:54 PM
Salut Rollon! Tu fais parti d'une organisation? Tu milites?
Salutations romandes!

Blood_Axis
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Welcome aboard! :fcurtsy:

Prince Eugen
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 08:24 PM
Wellcome comrade!

Allenson
Thursday, December 16th, 2004, 09:50 PM
Welcome indeed. I've often wondered why there aren't many French folk here on Skadi---so it's good to see one. ;)

Renwein
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 01:05 AM
Welcome indeed. I've often wondered why there aren't many French folk here on Skadi---so it's good to see one. ;)

There've never been many French people on any international site i've seen, (music sites, chat rooms, etc) but there have always been plenty of Germans, Scandinavians, and Dutch, several eastern euros and a few italians/spaniards etc. (that's exactly true of this site too). Some people said French people are more adverse to learning English, something to do with pride ;)... I dunno, but i've always wondered why there are so few French on the web in general. (At least where I can see them ;)

Another thing is, i've been told the pop charts in Scandinavia and the other places (even Germany?) are mostly in English... (a Swede told me about 90% is in English)... Scandinavian languages and Dutch are quite small compared to English so it makes sense that lots of them would be fluent in English and so be more common on international websites. A few years ago I remember some Norwegians on a site were complaining about MSN stopping it's Norwegian service if i remember right, because their language was becoming less prominant (I also spoke to a Norwegian girl who said she hated speaking Norwegian and prefered English)... I think it's all rather a shame, but oh well...

Northern Paladin
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 06:24 AM
The French don't like using English. Anglish is below them.
How can any Germanic language compare to the elegance of french.
I bet to the average Frenchman german just sounds like a series of grunts.:D

Gesta Bellica
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 07:55 AM
There've never been many French people on any international site i've seen, (music sites, chat rooms, etc) but there have always been plenty of Germans, Scandinavians, and Dutch, several eastern euros and a few italians/spaniards etc. (that's exactly true of this site too). Some people said French people are more adverse to learning English, something to do with pride ;)... I dunno, but i've always wondered why there are so few French on the web in general. (At least where I can see them ;)

Another thing is, i've been told the pop charts in Scandinavia and the other places (even Germany?) are mostly in English... (a Swede told me about 90% is in English)... Scandinavian languages and Dutch are quite small compared to English so it makes sense that lots of them would be fluent in English and so be more common on international websites. A few years ago I remember some Norwegians on a site were complaining about MSN stopping it's Norwegian service if i remember right, because their language was becoming less prominant (I also spoke to a Norwegian girl who said she hated speaking Norwegian and prefered English)... I think it's all rather a shame, but oh well...

Well in Italy is quite rare to find somebody able to speak in a fluent english so automatically many nationalists are not able to even check if there are racialist sites in the net.
I guess it's the same for Spain and France..you should see how they teach english in school here, you would have a good laugh.
Therefore here's the reason why there are not so many southern european nationalists that post on International sites

Ahnenerbe
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 02:54 PM
The problem is that even among french nationalists it's rare to find true racialists. Most of French wouldn't even complain about immigration if it wasn't the pb of immigrants' crime etc. This because France was never an ethnic-based state; it has been built over the negation of the ethnicities who compose it, since Richelieu and even before. The monarchy and then the Republic builded a centralized state in which the power was very concentrated. It made the seize of power by Jews and free-masons easier in the XXth century because in this system, their influence equals the representation of the ethnic people of France.

The other huge problem as I see it is the corruption of blood and soul introduced by a huge Spanish, Portugese, Italian and Polish immigration since the end of the XIXth century who deeply diluted the french ethnies. It's very sensible to talk about this, even among racialists, for obvious reasons.
But the dilution that occured is a real problem because there must stay only around 20-30 millions of French of real french ancestry.

A real deep nationalist feeling is weakened by this; of course, the Poles, etc are "integrated" and count often among the strongest nationalists, but the feeling lasts that "there is no such thing as pure french ancestry" and leads to the belief that in fact we are all bastards. That's why the few French you can see around racialist boards are the ones who still belong to a strong ethnic identity, ie Rollon: Norman, or me: Elsass-Lothringen, there are others but they will not refer to them as French, rather as from Breizh, Corsica, etc.

As these homogeneous historical entities are disappearing too and will do so thorought all Europe, we have to create new references. In a globalized world we have to evolve while keeping the best of what our identities provided us. Deep racialism and anthropological classifications are a part of the solution. The way it is displayed below our Skadi avatars helps us to determine our real identities; we are determined by both our subracial biological capital and our cultural sphere/metaethnicity. Racialism instead of nationalism. Nation-states dont represent anything for us.

Rollon
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Thank you guys. It's good to be greeted like that.

As to the French, I see three possible explanations :

- Poor mastery of English, as noted by Katyushia ;

- The fact that most French are no Germanic people, as Ahnenerbe said, and that they even see Germans as a threat ; it's hard to talk about races in France, even among far right movements. Basically, that's why I'm here.

- and finally, a lot of people here say they are from European Union, so we don't know their nationality. Some of them are probably French. I am no Nationalist, but I wish these guys told us their nationality, that would help know who they are.

Thank you all.

And Oh, Northern Paladin, I find your signature pretty cool.

Zuid-Vlaming
Friday, December 17th, 2004, 11:19 PM
Hello,

"French" guy here. (I regularly have a look on this forum but haven't participated since months).

As an interesting matter has been evoked, I'd like to share my point of view. I agree with Ahnenerbe's following quote :

That's why the few French you can see around racialist boards are the ones who still belong to a strong ethnic identity, ie Rollon: Norman, or me: Elsass-Lothringen, there are others but they will not refer to them as French, rather as from Breizh, Corsica, etc.If you are "French nationalist" then true ethnic identities are not your concerns: then Au revoir Skadi ;
on the contrary if you are concerned with (meta-)ethnicity, deep-rooted culture and heritage, most probably "French" will mean nothing for you, and why claim a nationality you don't hold for legitimate ?


However, Ahnenerbe, I disagree with you when you say that the solution lies in
Deep racialism and anthropological classifications.I think that much, much more importance must be given to ancestry, than to hair colour nuances, convexity of noses, etc...
Those classifications about phenotypes especially when it comes to subraces are 1) scarecrows (épouvantail) for the huge majority of european people, even for people who could otherwise have strong interest in ethnic(ists) movements (scarecrows because there's always the fear to be judged "not pure enough" - or simply to be judged -for good or bad- only in reason of inherited facial features and not for your value)
and 2) not very reliable for many reasons (the biased views of many anthropologists' works, which are often as old as the 19th, and when not, more or less based on the former works)


Let's take the case of an average "french" who'd supposedly start to get interest in his deep roots and meta-ethnicity. This guy not coming from a region of present France with any strong "regional" identity. (Because if so, he would already be fixed = a Fleming, an Elsasser, knows he's Germanic ; a Britton knows he's Celtic.)
Let's assume he's from Normandy or French Flanders or french speaking parts of "Alsace-Lorraine" : any french-speaking region where there has been strong germanic (as well as celtic, formerly) influence in blood and culture.

Consider that the guy is a truly enrooted one, true native of the land and all, he knows enough about his ancestry (genealogics) to be certain of having a very important amount, if not totality, of his ancestry tracing back in the very early historic times of the region.
Meta-ethnicity interests him, and he wants to claim himself from one of the major civilisations constitutive of European peoples. In his case, either Germanic either Celtic. Latin interests him only since he speaks a latin-derived language, but he would hardly have Roman ancestors who just colonized culturally but didn't populate these parts of Europe - or in insignificant manner. Anyways, if we consider ethnic roots, ancestry, genealogics, he is either of Celtic either of Germanic (most probably shared) potential meta-ethnicity.


Well, according to a certain school of "classifiers" he would be "allowed" to claim a meta-ethnic heritage only according to his phenotype.
If nordish, [i]welcome among the Germanics ! or among the Celtics, their grand hignesses will let him choose. (So the guy from Normandy is for this reason only permitted to claim himself being a Viking, the one from Elsass-Lothr. a German beim Blut und Boden -labelled, the one from Fr. Flanders a "Dietsch")
If not...
In best case he will be authorized to claim Celtic heritage (because Celtic is after all so vague), but not considered as pure Celtic as the "true ones" (ya know, that must be "red-haired and concave-nosed"). But much surely rejected from both these so-called "nordish/aryan/hyperborean" people.

What ? Call "germanic", a phenotypically non-nordish man who speaks a latin language, are you kidding ! It is good enough that we tolerate that dinarids or alpinids Germans (even from native German stock as far as it can be found in genealogics) pretend themselves to be "Germanic". Oh yes, maybe they are in a way, but not as "truly Germanic" as good Teutonic-looking ones. Coming back to you sir, better content with European nationalism, but don't claim to be part of our proud culture !

(And yet the guy having part, besides Celtic heritage, part of legitimate Germanic heritage, not culturally as he was raised in a nation-state that has erased identities, but by blood and ancestry. For the cultural matter, it can be solved by learning, studying... and loving it)


I don't know how many subracialists anthropologists do think the way I caricatured just above, nor if it represents minority or majority of them. But this way of thinking is, to a larger or lesser extent existing among (sub-)racialists groups. In some of their members, or in their official line - not Skadi's, if I understood well through my few visits on the forum.
But I've read enough stuff like this -not necessarily here at Skadi- (rather at Stormfront and likes) when it came about subraces and the political projects about it, and I have to say, that's the major reason why I have learnt to distrust racial classifications and subraces theories.

Why do you think some people (like this poor Robert286 who recently begged so pathetically for noric classification as if his life depended on it) become so worried about being nordish or "at least" sub-nordish ? Because they have in mind all that things about "true" germanics and/or "true" celtics corresponding to nordic phenotypes, and the great imposture that even classic roman and greek civilisations would be the fact of nordics, modern-days fully-natives-but-not-nordish italians and greeks having -according to some heritagerobbers- no claim on their own civilisational heritages !


To subraces theories I oppose Europe of Peoples. When there would not be massive migrations between european authentic ethno-territorial entities (on the base of what it was after the Great Germanic Migrations, last major stage of formation of European Peoples) one would not have to worry with "subracial preservation".
...


All that being said, I consider blondiness as a very precious feature in europeans since it's recessive, and I worry much when I read that redheads were about to disappear under 50 years if racial mixing continued. But not because they would be supposedly purer, or "hyperborean-descent" (beautiful fantasy, but just that : fantasy) or I-don't-know-what. But because they are part of Europe. No more, no less precious, but a very component of our diversity, that's enough for me.


Indisputable ancestry should be more valued than phenotypes :
that's my point of view, and I seriously think that it will be much easier to make people concerned with the ideal of european preservation (btw germanic preservation, since it's Skadi's goal), when all these classifications slide calipers and eye-color scales will be put in the old dusty cave just along with Grandpa's old Hauptsturmführer's uniform.


Because THAT's maybe another (and not the least) reason why so few frenchmen join. Some surely prefer to keep oldschooled-nationalism than to embrace meta-ethnicism in which ranks some will consider them like "2nd category Celtics/Germanics" because of a not-enuff-nordic look.



But oh, I almost forgot : To Rollon, Greetings, and welcome. Nice pseudo, much better than mine, which I had chosen quite quickly :D
(that Northmann Rollon, I have it under the name of Robert the First in my family tree. Great man he was. Nice pseudo, really.)

Rollon
Monday, December 20th, 2004, 09:44 AM
Man, you are descendant of the Venerable Robert the First. I therefore declare myself your servitor.

Speak, and your orders shall be executed at once.

He's not a man, he who accepts to live among Muds.

It's time for me to go berserk, like the Ancestors !

Zuid-Vlaming
Monday, December 20th, 2004, 09:51 PM
Oh, I'll simply ask you to call me "my liege". ;)


By the way, I definitely agree with you :
"He's not a man, he who accepts to live among Mugs."

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Only bowls are worthy. :D

Rollon
Tuesday, December 28th, 2004, 08:52 PM
The word "liege" is not in my dictionnary. Sorry.

I'd like to make a few comments on your long message, which deserves it, since you're obviously someone who thinks.

You say that we shouldn't put emphasis on race. I don't agree with that. According to you, a lot a people are reluctant to engage in something if it is too much connected with racial ideology, because they feel they don't fit to Aryan standard. Therefore racialists would be doomed to lack broad support. All right.

Now please remember what sort of an ally was Italy during WWII for Germany. Do you think Italy helped a lot ?

Non-Aryan people are indeed reluctant to endorse Hitlerism. I don't care. A race is not only a set of physical traits but also a mental outlook. Look at the Italian Julius Evola's ideas. He can't talk about races on a biological ground ; for him the Aryan race is something spiritual, not biological. This doesn't make sense : his spirituality seems as void and meaningless to me as democratic principles are. Ideas are nothing compared to blood. Ideas are determined by blood. Evola thinks as a non-Aryan because he's not an Aryan.

One proof is his acknowledged debt to a Jew, Weininger. What a lack of racial pride ! That's not of an Aryan.

Today his followers prefer to denounce Coca-Cola rather than the Jews. What a cowardice ! That's not of Aryans.

Evola thinks the Jews are responsible for the modern mechanistic view of the world. H S Chamberlain thinks that the very Aryans are responsible for that. Chamberlain was an Aryan. Science is Aryan. The "Tradition", what is that ?