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Tryggvi
Saturday, May 10th, 2003, 09:27 AM
IQ Averages [according to Lynn] Hong Kong - 107
Korea, South - 106
Japan - 105
Taiwan - 104
Singapore - 103
Austria - 102
Germany - 102
Italy - 102
Netherlands - 102
Sweden - 101
Switzerland - 101
Belgium - 100
China - 100
New Zealand - 100
United Kingdom - 100
Hungary - 99
Poland - 99
Australia - 98
Denmark - 98
France - 98
Norway - 98
United States - 98
Canada - 97
Czech Republic - 97
Finland - 97
Spain - 97
Argentina - 96
Russia - 96
Slovakia - 96
Uruguay - 96
Portugal - 95
Slovenia - 95
Israel - 94
Romania - 94
Bulgaria - 93
Ireland - 93
Greece - 92
Malaysia - 92
Thailand - 91
Croatia - 90
Peru - 90
Turkey - 90
Colombia - 89
Indonesia - 89
Suriname - 89
Brazil - 87
Iraq - 87
Mexico - 87
Samoa (Western) - 87
Tonga - 87
Lebanon - 86
Philippines - 86
Cuba - 85
Morocco - 85
Fiji - 84
Iran - 84
Marshall Islands - 84
Puerto Rico - 84
Egypt - 83
India - 81
Ecuador - 80
Guatemala - 79
Barbados - 78
Nepal - 78
Qatar - 78
Zambia - 77
Congo (Brazz) - 73
Uganda - 73
Jamaica - 72
Kenya - 72
South Africa - 72
Sudan - 72
Tanzania - 72
Ghana - 71
Nigeria - 67
Guinea - 66
Zimbabwe - 66
Congo (Zaire) - 65
Sierra Leone - 64
Ethiopia - 63
Equatorial Guinea - 59Source: Richard Lynn, IQ and the Wealth of Nations, 2002

Zimmer Mann
Saturday, May 10th, 2003, 09:41 AM
I couldn't imagine being in a country where the average IQ was 59. Someone with a 100 IQ would be considered a genius. No wonder those people can't run their countries properly and are so prone to corruption and poverty. :eek:

Katinkatze
Saturday, May 10th, 2003, 04:14 PM
some of the results are pityful... its quite sad to hear that there is so much ignorance in these countries...ok its mostly due to the fact that they dont have good standards in education...if they have any at all... but its hopeless... and they wonder why they are doing so badly economically and sociially...geesh...

Scáthach
Saturday, May 10th, 2003, 11:09 PM
ive seen this before and i still find it impossible to believe that my country has an average IQ of NINETY-THREE!!! x_nono

Tore
Sunday, May 11th, 2003, 02:56 AM
ok its mostly due to the fact that they dont have good standards in education...

Mostly???

Poor conditions may have partial influence in yielding a mean IQ as low as 59, yet IQ is 40-80% heriditary, meaning that sub-saharan Africans can only attain an IQ so high under ideal conditions, which appears to be in the 70-80 range.

Tryggvi
Thursday, May 15th, 2003, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Trønder
Poor conditions may have partial influence in yielding a mean IQ as low as 59, yet IQ is 40-80% heriditary, meaning that sub-saharan Africans can only attain an IQ so high under ideal conditions, which appears to be in the 70-80 range. Yes, but it has to be taken into consideration that it depends on the society and the social conditions, how much of the IQ is inherited, and how much environment inflates the score. 40-80% is a good range for today's industrialized nations that are characterized by a high degree of social equality and offer basic educational facilities to almost everyone.

In the "ideal" (Communist) society, in which the brain of everyone would be ideally stimulated from the first formation of neural cells and structures until death, in which everyone would receive an optimal diet, in which everyone receives the same toys, education, and treatment, and in which all other forms of social inequality are eliminated, IQ differences would be 100% inherited.

On the other hand, in societies like the ones in sub-Saharan Africa, where food is often short, of low quality, and nutritionally unbalanced, and where, due to the lack of toys, schools, books, art, technology, &c. the brain of many people is frequently only insufficiently stimulated and developed, the environmental potential to improve the IQ of at least the next generation is larger than in the West and Far East.

Notwithstanding this observation, it shall be noted, that the racial IQ gaps have so far withstood the "attacks" by factors such as improvement of nutrition, education, social conditions or the Flynn effect; they are remarkably stable since IQ tests have been introduced. The same holds true for the "class" gaps, which are directly connected to the racial averages.

The average IQ of South African whites, for example, is slightly over 100. White university students, however, score on average about a standard deviation higher than the average of the population: IQ 115-118. As the intellectual university requirements are the same for everyone (or rather should be), one would suspect that black university students would score about the same. This is, however, not the case. When in South Africa, Prof. Rushton seized the opportunity to test 1st semester psychology students at Wits university, Johannesburg, and could establish that their average IQ is only about 84. This might sound strange at first, but is explicable, if one considers that the average African IQ (confirmed by more than 20 independent studies all over sub-Saharan Africa) is only around 70-75. Consequently, black university students, too, score on average about a standard deviation higher than their racial average.

A similar deviation has been observed in the U.S. at the M.I.T. While the average IQ of white M.I.T. students is larger than 140, the average IQ of blacks is only 128, maintaining the same gap that exists between the races' averages.

Noteworthy is, however, that when it comes to memory power, differences between blacks and whites are almost negligible. Blacks also have the ability to perform socially better at low IQ levels than whites (and East Asians). White children with an IQ of 70 or lower are not infrequently "mentally retarded" in the sense of the word and have great difficulties to understand and to interact with the world around them, while black children with the same IQ are typically able to form normal social contacts with other children, to create friendships, to remember their mates' names, to figure out the functionality of toys, and to participate in common games. Science doesn't know yet why, but IQ certainly doesn't measure all social, cognitive, intellectual, mental, and creative abilities.

Zimmer Mann
Thursday, May 15th, 2003, 10:18 AM
An excellent unbiased post Tryggvi.

Alpine Storm
Monday, December 5th, 2005, 09:31 AM
I would like to see the following statistics

What is the correlation between GDP & IQ
What is the correlation between Life Span & IQ
if you look at the average brain size between the races you will see that it coincides the list of IQ's. This once again supports the weight of genetics when measuring intelligence.

I have been to Korea and can testify that although they are bright individuals, they seem to lack allot of creativity and ingenuity. Do the IQ tests measure those characteristics?

QuietWind
Monday, December 5th, 2005, 07:53 PM
I would like to see the following statistics
What is the correlation between GDP & IQ
What is the correlation between Life Span & IQif you look at the average brain size between the races you will see that it coincides the list of IQ's. This once again supports the weight of genetics when measuring intelligence.

I have been to Korea and can testify that although they are bright individuals, they seem to lack allot of creativity and ingenuity. Do the IQ tests measure those characteristics?

IQ and GDP:
http://www.isteve.com/IQ_Table.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_IQ



IQ and Lifespan:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10004318/


And...no, IQ tests do not normally measure creativity nor ingenuity, although some aspects of IQ test may measure some of the same underlying factors which contribute to ingenuity.

Janus
Monday, December 5th, 2005, 08:11 PM
I have been to Korea and can testify that although they are bright individuals, they seem to lack allot of creativity and ingenuity. Do the IQ tests measure those characteristics?

Well IQ tests do not measure creativity,a key point of intelligence according to Einstein,they only measure some parts of intelligence but overall I think that IQ ranking is representive.Korea,as other northeast Asian civilisations,had or partly still have a much stronger group mentality and so individuality and therefore creativity and other individual attributes weren't as valued as they are here.

Agrippa
Saturday, February 4th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Found on Dodona:

Lynn on Race differences in Intelligence


A review of Richard Lynn´s new book:"Race Differences in Intelligence: An evolutionary analysis"
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/02/world-of-difference-richard-lynn-maps.php


While Lynn has made valuable and original contributions to a number of psychometric issues, IQ&tWoN, and his recent work with sex differences, confirms that group differences in intelligence are clearly his forte, and since so few other researchers dare to touch the issue, the field is mostly wide open for discovery. Which brings me to Lynn's fifth recent and latest book, Race Differences in Intelligence, which Lynn himself describes as ". . . the first fully comprehensive review that has ever been made of the evidence on race differences in intelligence worldwide". (p. 2) In contrast to IQ&tWoN, RDiI does not contain a newly created thesis. This is not to say it is unoriginal, many of its ideas (and much of its copious data) certainly originates with Lynn himself, but the theory, its basic outline and many of the key references of this book were almost all first presented 15 years ago in Lynn's Mankind Quarterly article 'Race Differences in Intelligence: A Global Perspective' and its companion piece 'The Evolution of Racial Differences in Intelligence', while an even more basic version appeared in his 1978 chapter 'Ethnic and Racial Differences in Intelligence, International Comparisons' in the book Human Variation.

The main strength of RDiI is just how much data Lynn has collected, totaling 620 different IQ studies from around the world and 813,778 tested individuals. While IQ&tWoN, published only a few years ago, presented data from 81 countries, RDil has boosted that number up to 100 different countries (additions include Cameroon, Central African Republic, Estonia, Iceland, Jordan, Kuwait, Laos, Lithuania, Madagascar, Malta, Mozambique, Pakistan, Samoa, Serbia, Sri Lanka, Syria, Yemen, and a few others), amounting to 137 newly referenced IQ studies. RDiI is seventeen chapters; the first 2 are on the concepts of race and intelligence. The next 10 chapters cover the psychometric data on 10 different racial groups: Europeans, Africans, Bushman and Pygmies, South Asians and North Africans, Southeast Asians, Australian Aborigines, Pacific Islanders, East Asians, Arctic Peoples, and Native Americans. The next chapter discusses the psychometric justifications for these results, while the last four chapters discuss the environmental and evolutionary nature of these differences according to Lynn's assessment.


This chart summarizes the results:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8249/rdii7705933hx.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/02/world-of-difference-richard-lynn-maps.php

The Black Prince
Saturday, February 4th, 2006, 10:44 PM
Interesting article, little remark is the world avg. IQ of 90, shouldn't it be converted to 100 (thereby also converting the IQ averages of world-parts), or is there a certain reason to do not so?

The part about the EQ (Encephalization quotients) is good, did suspect it already that the factor that East-Asians and Europeans have larger brains compared to body size had influence on height of intelligence.


Bergmann's rule states that animals in colder climates tend to be larger and rounder to conserve body heat, while ones in warmer conditions smaller and thinner to help shed excess heat more efficiently. On the one hand while this may be true for the heads of our races, it isn't exactly true for the bodies, as head and body measurement data from the US shows that East Asians have much larger heads than African-Americans, but smaller, thinner bodies (Rushton 1997), which complicates the Bergmann explanation. In other words East Asians and Europeans don't just have larger heads, they have larger Encephalization quotients (EQs), or brain size controlling for body size - which also tracks changes in intelligence across the evolutionary record, so Rhesus monkeys have an EQ of 2.10, chimps 2.60, Australopithecus 3.70, Homo habilis 4.30, Homo erectus 5.00, and the average modern human 7.5 (while average IQ of modern humans = 90). Before the second most recent ice age, Lynn reports, the Europeans had an EQ of 7.3, which had inflated to 8.1 by the end.

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/02/wor...-lynn-maps.php

Agrippa
Sunday, February 5th, 2006, 12:59 AM
Lynn reports, the Europeans had an EQ of 7.3, which had inflated to 8.1 by the end.

Thats crucial since I consider the LGM, seasons, social structures and early civilisation - husbandry being the prime "positive" factors for Eurasian (Europid+Mongolid) brain evolution if compared with Southern and especially tropical mankind.