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Vetinari
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 06:16 PM
Dutch Muslim school hit by bomb

A bomb explosion has hit an Islamic school in the Netherlands, as tensions run high after the murder of controversial film-maker Theo van Gogh.

Monday's blast in the southern city of Eindhoven caused heavy damage, destroying doors and windows.

Police say it could be a revenge attack for the killing of Van Gogh by a suspected Islamic radical last week.

Mosques in several Dutch cities have been the targets of vandalism and failed arson attempts in recent days.

The Eindhoven explosion - which occurred around 0230 GMT on Monday - was caused by a "strong bomb or explosive", a police spokesman told the BBC News website.

Windows in neighbouring buildings were shattered, he added. No-one was hurt.

Police are investigating possible links between the attack and Van Gogh's killing.

The authorities have been on alert for revenge attacks on Muslims.

Over the past three days attempted attacks against Muslim targets have been reported in the cities of Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Breda and Huizen.

The film-maker was shot and stabbed in Amsterdam on Tuesday.

Several men, all believed to be Islamic radicals, have been arrested.

The Dutch government has vowed to take tough action against Muslim militants.

Police say they found a letter signed by an unknown group on Van Gogh's body containing threats to kill liberal politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Ms Hirsi Ali is a Somali refugee who wrote the script to Van Gogh's controversial film Submission, which criticised the treatment of women under Islam.

On Sunday Dutch police arrested two men who had allegedly called for the beheading of Geert Wilders, a member of parliament, in the name of Islam.

Mr Wilders has said he will set up an anti-immigration party in the wake of Van Gogh's death.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3991547.stm

Siegfried
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 06:42 PM
On Sunday Dutch police arrested two men who had allegedly called for the beheading of Geert Wilders, a member of parliament, in the name of Islam.

Mr Wilders has said he will set up an anti-immigration party in the wake of Van Gogh's death.


Just this morning I read in a newspaper that Mr Wilders wants to take away civil liberties from Muslims, including the right to set up schools, private organisations, etc. It seems he moves a bit beyond 'anti-immigration' ;)

Siegmund
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 07:00 PM
Just this morning I read in a newspaper that Mr Wilders wants to take away civil liberties from Muslims, including the right to set up schools, private organisations, etc. It seems he moves a bit beyond 'anti-immigration' ;)
I found your earlier post on the strength of Dutch national/racial feeling quite interesting, especially in connection with this one.

Realistically, what would it take for the Netherlands to move in the direction Geert Wilders is proposing? I wonder how the rest of the EU would react...

Siegfried
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 07:10 PM
Realistically, what would it take for the Netherlands to move in the direction Geert Wilders is proposing?

Another murder just before election time and an end to the epidemic in-fighting in nationalist circles. At the moment, the latter actually seems less likely than the former.



I wonder how the rest of the EU would react...

Probably the same way they reacted to Austria when the FP entered the coalition.

Strbog
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Another murder just before election time and an end to the epidemic in-fighting in nationalist circles. At the moment, the latter actually seems less likely than the former.


I'd like to read your post on the strength of Dutch nationalism, could you (or someone else) give me a link?

Siegfried
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 07:23 PM
I'd like to read your post on the strength of Dutch nationalism, could you (or someone else) give me a link?


http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=218489#post218489

Don't get me wrong though; the vast majority of the Dutch are not nationalist/racialist on a conscious level, and would flock back to the folk traitors at the first opportunity. There is, however, an increasing polarisation in our society and an equally increasing distrust and dislike of our government. I recently saw a poll in a newspaper, which claimed the average Dutchman gave our State a 4.6 on reliability (on a scale of 1, worst, to 10, best).

Triglav
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 08:12 PM
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=218489#post218489

Don't get me wrong though; the vast majority of the Dutch are not nationalist/racialist on a conscious level, and would flock back to the folk traitors at the first opportunity. There is, however, an increasing polarisation in our society and an equally increasing distrust and dislike of our government. I recently saw a poll in a newspaper, which claimed the average Dutchman gave our State a 4.6 on reliability (on a scale of 1, worst, to 10, best).

The usual discontent at governments. I wouldn't gush over it. :shrug

Siegfried
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 08:25 PM
The usual discontent at governments. I wouldn't gush over it. :shrug

I think it's getting a bit more serious over here. It's not like the great unwashed will storm the local police offices tomorrow, but the discontent has greatly increased over the last few years.