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Prodigal Son
Friday, March 14th, 2003, 05:35 AM
Eugene Terre Blanche, leader of the far right South African AWB (Afrikaner Weerstandsbeveging)

Notice high cheekbones, sallow skin, and fat layer on eyelids:

http://www.pretoria.co.za/kubergriffel/images/visie.jpg

http://www.pretoria.co.za/kubergriffel/images/opset.jpg

http://www.awb.co.za/images/et/et.jpg

He is of mixed French, West German, and Dutch ancestry. Of course he has no MOngoloid ancestry; his phenotype should be attributed to an archaic Upper Paleolithic strain, possibly from France. In other words, high cheekbones and slanty eyes do not a Mongol make. The phenotype of most Northeastenr EUropean is also of archaic Upper Paleolithic origin, not Mongoloid. Curious of reactions...

StrÝbog
Friday, March 14th, 2003, 06:21 AM
Yeah he looks East Baltic to me, especially in the eyes and nose...

Allenson
Friday, March 14th, 2003, 02:44 PM
He looks Borreby or E. Baltic to me. Certainly strong in the UP component.

The fat under the eye-lids is very common in Nordic and UP derived folks.....be they from NE or NW Europe. This is not necessarily a Mongol trait and to me, it is a sure sign of significant UP 'blood'. I too have fatty eye-folds under my eye-lids, though not to the extent that this fellow does. I believe it is something that comes on with age. It is more noticeable in men. My feeling is that it is an adaptive trait which can help protect the eye from wind, glare, blowing dust or snow, etc. When I squint outside, these folds make natural 'visors' over my eyes. They have become more distinct as I have gotten older.

This type of eye formation is often confused with the Mongoloid, epicanthus or epicanthic fold.....which it is not. This UP eye-fold is much 'heavier' than the epicanthus as it results from fatty deposits over the eye as opposed to just an extra fold of skin on the eye-lid itself.

Evolved
Friday, March 14th, 2003, 10:07 PM
Here's another thread with a Western European Ladogan:

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=18102#post18102

Evolved
Saturday, March 15th, 2003, 01:47 AM
Here's a good demonstration of snub nose vs. non-snubbed noses. :gift

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030304/capt.1046808814.topix_terror_war_congres s_saw104.jpg

Hamlet VI
Tuesday, March 18th, 2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Prodigal Son
Eugene Terre Blanche, leader of the far right South African AWB (Afrikaner Weerstandsbeveging)

Notice high cheekbones, sallow skin, and fat layer on eyelids:

http://www.pretoria.co.za/kubergriffel/images/visie.jpg

http://www.pretoria.co.za/kubergriffel/images/opset.jpg

http://www.awb.co.za/images/et/et.jpg

He is of mixed French, West German, and Dutch ancestry. Of course he has no MOngoloid ancestry; his phenotype should be attributed to an archaic Upper Paleolithic strain, possibly from France. In other words, high cheekbones and slanty eyes do not a Mongol make. The phenotype of most Northeastenr EUropean is also of archaic Upper Paleolithic origin, not Mongoloid. Curious of reactions...

There's nothing French about his phenotype or ancestry. Afrikaners have only very distant French blood, less than 1/32. Don't attribute anything French to him other than his surname.

cosmocreator
Tuesday, March 18th, 2003, 08:20 PM
I think he looks predominantly Brunn/Falish.

Hellstar
Thursday, April 3rd, 2003, 08:18 PM
Here is a true Uralic person, with origins from Finland.

Height around 184cm, weight 78 - 100 kg (depending on eating possibilities)


Eyes; like invisible ghost white/Bluish depending on sun. but typical light eyed.

Hair, reddish/Tiny blondish, great hair abundance.

Hellstar
Thursday, April 3rd, 2003, 08:19 PM
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Hellstar
Friday, April 4th, 2003, 01:13 PM
Or could he be tiny Tavastian influenced? He must be archetype of Uralic I guess.

Horagalles
Friday, October 21st, 2005, 06:10 PM
Eugene Terre Blanche, leader of the far right South African AWB (Afrikaner Weerstandsbeveging)

Notice high cheekbones, sallow skin, and fat layer on eyelids:

http://www.awb.co.za/images/et/et.jpg

He is of mixed French, West German, and Dutch ancestry. Of course he has no MOngoloid ancestry; his phenotype should be attributed to an archaic Upper Paleolithic strain, possibly from France. In other words, high cheekbones and slanty eyes do not a Mongol make. The phenotype of most Northeastenr EUropean is also of archaic Upper Paleolithic origin, not Mongoloid. Curious of reactions...East Baltic was also on my mind. Indeed many Afrikaners have a resemblences that reminds me of East Baltic.
Since there are "Cape Malays" in, mongoloid admixture is not comletely impossible. There is rumours of Non-White ancestry in many Afrikaners. While I wouldn't dismiss it completly, I think the figures given (7% of complete gene pool) are exaggerated.
Afrikaners generally resemble NW-European phenotypes. Blond is common - The majority of girls I know have strong blondism. Red hair is present as well. But there are also many people with darker features. I noticed there is a difference in appearance of low and higher class Afrikaners, too. Or this is how I perceived it.