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Reno
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:16 PM
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"Judea declares War on Germany." - Daily Express (March 24, 1934)


"Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral enemy. Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged! Kill every German -- wipe them out!" - Llya Ehrenburg, Glaser (p. 111)


"Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child." - Jewish professor A. Kulischer (October, 1937).


"Our fight against Germany must be carried to the limit of what is possible. Israel has been attacked. Let us, therefore, defend Israel! Against the awakened Germany, we put an awakened Israel. And the world will defend us." - Jewish author Pierre Creange in his book Epitres aux Juifs (1938)

"Germany must be turned into a waste land, as happened there during the 30-year War." - Das Morgenthau-Tagebuch, The Morgenthau Dairy (p. 11)


"The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany..." - Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch (January, 1934)


"I hope every German west of the Rhine River and wherever we attack, will be destroyed." - R.F. Keeling

Doug the Head
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:38 PM
all of those things were said after Hitler put jew in ghettos, so he was the enemy of the jews.

and in response to the thread topic:
Hitler started WWII by invading Poland in 1939. then he did the stupidest thing ever, which was to attck russia even though they had a peace agreement. he also did not take into account the long and hard russian winters, which led to loss at the battle of Stalingrad, the turning point of the war on the Eastern front.

he also pissed off america by declaring war on them, so he was fighting the US, England, and Russia all at once, with nobody at his side but the worthless italian army. germany had a fine army, but they could not destroy german and american tanks at the rate they were being produced (around 1 every hour), or sink ships faster than they could be built (one every day for liberty ships)

in conclusion, hitler started the war and he isnt exactly the brightest crayon in the box for doing it in the way that he did

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GreenHeart
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:46 PM
Hitler hadn't put any jews in ghettos in 1934. Oh my god are you stupid, Mr. Head? :eek:

Why is it you A-rabs always stick up for the jews?

Doug the Head
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:49 PM
so maybe my dates are a bit blurry, but he definitely had made very real anti-semitic remarks in his addresses to the german people and definitely meritted the title of "enemy of the jews"

GreenHeart
Tuesday, February 25th, 2003, 08:50 PM
The jews warranted the title enemies of Germany and the rest of the free world too. :gift

Saladin
Wednesday, February 26th, 2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by NordicPower88


Why is it you A-rabs always stick up for the jews?

Who said he was an Arab?

Zyklop
Tuesday, November 2nd, 2004, 05:18 PM
A collection of anti-German and revealing quotes from influental and popular persons.


Winston Churchill:


"We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)


"Germany becomes to powerful. We have to crush it." - Winston Churchill (November 1936 to US-General Robert E. Wood)


"Germany´s unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an own exchange system from which the world-finance couldn´t profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig." - Winston Churchill, The second World War (Bern, 1960)


"The war wasn´t only about abolishing fascism, but to conquer sales markets. We could have, if we had intended so, prevented this war from breaking out without doing one shot, but we didn´t want to." -
Winston Churchill to Truman (Fultun, USA March 1946)


"Should Germany merchandise again in the next 50 years we have led this war (WW1) in vain." - Winston Churchill in Times (1919)


"This war is an English war and its goal is the destruction of Germany." - Winston Churchill (Autumn 1939 broadcast)

To be continued....

AryanKrieger
Tuesday, November 2nd, 2004, 07:47 PM
Great post. Hard for the Churchill apologists to explain away the man`s inveterate hatred of all things German.

Zyklop
Wednesday, November 3rd, 2004, 09:42 AM
Some more. I had to translate them from German to English so most probably they are not exactly literal.


"Not the political doctrine of Hitler has hurled us into this war. The reason was the success of his increase in building a new economy. The roots of war were envy, greed and fear." - Major General J.F.C. Fuller, historian, England


"We didn´t go to war in 1939 to save Germany from Hitler...or the continent from fascism. Like in 1914 we went to war for the not lesser noble cause that we couldn´t accept a German hegemony over Europe." - Sunday Correspondent, London (17.9.1989)


"Now we have forced Hitler to war so he no longer can peacefully annihilate one piece of the Treaty of Versailles after the other." - Lord Halifax, English embassador in Washington (1939)


"The enemy is the German Reich and not Nazism, and those who still haven´t understood this, haven´t understood anything." - Churchill´s chief counselor Robert Lord Vansittart (September 1940 to foreign minister Lord Halifax)


"It will be the Polish army that will invade Germany on the first day of war." - The Polish embassador in Paris (15.8.1939)


"I will crunch Germany." - Roosevelt 1932(!)


"What we didn´t want to comprehend in the German (anti-Hitler) resistance during war, we learned completely afterwards: this war wasn´t led against Hitler but against Germany." - Eugen Gerstenmaier, President of the German Bundestag since 1954, member of the resistance group "Bekennende Kirche" during WW2


"Hitler and the German people didn´t want this war. We didn´t answer Hitler´s various petitions for peace. Now we have to admit that he was right. Instead of a cooperation with Germany, which he had offered us, now stands the gigantic, imperialistic might of the Sovjets. I feel ashamed to see how the same intentions which we accused Hitler of now are pursued under a different name." - Sir Hartley Shawcross, British chief-accuser in Nuerenberg


"We made a monster, a devil out of Hitler. Therefore we couldn´t disavow it after the war. After all, we mobilized the masses against the devil himself. So we were forced to play our part in this diabolic scenario after the war. In no way we could have pointed out to our people that the war only was an economic preventive measure." - US foreign minister Baker (1992)

AryanKrieger
Wednesday, November 3rd, 2004, 06:15 PM
Again, thank you for these quotes. It is very telling that no-one yet has come on here to disagree with any of this: the silence from our opponents is telling!

nordic_canadian_male
Wednesday, November 3rd, 2004, 07:33 PM
WW2 was as much a war against western capitalist bankers as it was a war of race and jewish extermination.

Winston Churchill is probably the one man who stood between nazi victory in europe, that stubborn pig is responsible in a way for all the bad things which have occured to the white race, I hope he burns in hell.

AryanKrieger
Wednesday, November 3rd, 2004, 07:34 PM
WW2 was as much a war against western capitalist bankers as it was a war of race and jewish extermination.

Winston Churchill is probably the one man who stood between nazi victory in europe, that stubborn pig is responsible in a way for all the bad things which have occured to the white race, I hope he burns in hell.
I agree! Except I dont believe in hell!

nordic_canadian_male
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 06:11 AM
I agree! Except I dont believe in hell!

I don't either but I hope he's somewhere like it, that is if your soul does continue after life. :D

Zyklop
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 07:56 AM
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"Will there be room for [the German refugees, fleeing before the Red army] in what is left of Germany? We have killed six or seven million Germans and probably there will be an other million or so killed before the end of the war." - Churchill, according to James F Byrnes' shorthand note of Plenary Session at Yalta, Feb. 7, 1945 (H S Truman Libr., Independence, Missouri).


"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes." - Churchill, writing as president of the Air Council (1919)


"It is alarming and nauseating to see Mr Gandhi, a seditious Middle Temple lawyer, now posing as a fakir of a type well known in the east, striding half naked up the steps of the viceregal palace, while he is still organising and conducting a campaign of civil disobedience, to parlay on equal terms with the representative of the Emperor-King." - Churchill, commenting on Gandhi's meeting with the Viceroy of India (1931)


"(We must rally against) a poisoned Russia, an infected Russia of armed hordes not only smiting with bayonet and cannon, but accompanied and preceded by swarms of typhus-bearing vermin." - Churchill, quoted in the Boston Review (April/May 2001)


"So far as Britain and Russia were concerned, how would it do for you to have 90% of Romania, for us to have 90% of the say in Greece, and go 50/50 about Yugoslavia?" - Churchill, addressing Stalin in Moscow (October 1944)


"This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States)... this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." - Writing on 'Zionism versus Bolshevism' in the Illustrated Sunday Herald (February 1920)


More quotes and some originals of the before posted to be found at http://globalfire.tv/nj/english.htm (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalfi re.tv%2Fnj%2Fenglish.htm) (thanks to WestPrussian for the suggestion).

Zyklop
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 05:36 PM
"Kill, kill, you brave Red Army soldiers, kill. There is nothing in the Germans that is innocent. Obey the instructions of comrade Stalin and stamp the fascistic beast in its cave. Break with force the racial arrogance of the Germanic women. Take them as your legal loot. Kill, you brave soldiers of the Red Army, kill!" - Ilya Ehrenburg Stalin's Jewish propagandist for genocide (Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Frankfurt, February 28, 1995 - page 7)


"There can be no doubt: National Socialism was part of a modernisation process in German society. It expedited the social changes in Germany. It transferred more to the underprivileged segments of society and brought equality and emancipation to women." - Heinz Hoehne, Gebt mir vier Jahre Zeit [Give me four Years], Ullstein Publishing House, Berlin-Frankfurt 1996, p. 10)


"It is not the Germany of the first decade that followed the war - broken, dejected and bowed down with a sense of apprehension and impotence. It is now full of hope and confidence, and of a renewed sense of determination to lead its own life without interference from any influence outside its own frontiers. One man has accomplished this miracle. He is a born leader of men. A magnetic and dynamic personality with a single-minded purpose, a resolute will and a dauntless heart." - David Lloyd George (Ex-Prime Minister, UK), in the Daily Express (Sep. 17, 1936)


"Without the holocaust we would not have a Jewish state." - Robert B. Goldmann in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Dec. 19, 1997, p. 9)

Zyklop
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 07:33 PM
Poland


"The minorities in Poland are supposed to disappear. The Polish policy makes sure that they don´t only disappear on the paper. This policy is ruthlessly established and without any attention to the public opinion of the world, of international contracts or the League of Nations. The Ukraine turned to hell under Polish rule. One can say this about Belorussia with even more right. The purpose of the Polish policy is the disappearance of the national minorities on the paper and in reality." - Manchester Guardian (14th December 1931)


"East Prussia is unquestionable German territory. Since my childhood this is my opinon which didn´t need the affirmation by a plebiscite. And that this is my opinion you may tell your East Prussians in a public gathering in Königsberg for reassurance." - The president of the Polish state and Marshall Josef Pilsudski who mysteriously lost his life in the 1930´s, to the German foreign minister Gustav Stresemann (10th December 1927)


"The Polish terror in the Ukraine today is worse than anything else in Europe. Ukraine became a country of desperation and destruction. The murderous deeds multiplied. The Germans have been tortured, mutilated, excruciated to death, their corpses were desecrated. Villages and palaces have been robbed, ignited, blown up. The depicted incidents in the official publication of the German government in 1921 exceed the worst actions one can imagine." - Prof. Dr. René Martel in his book, Les frontières orientales de l`Allemagne (Paris 1930) about the Polish raids in Upper Silesia in 1921.


"We know that the war between Poland and Germany can´t be prevented. We have to systematically and energetically prepare ourselves for this war. The present generation will see that a new victory at Grunwald will be written into history´s pages. But we will battle out this Grunwald in the suburbs of Berlin. Our ideal is to chamfer Poland with borders along the Oder in the west and the Neiße at Lausitz and to absorb Prussia from Pregel to the Spree. In this war no prisoners will be made, there will be no place for humanitarian feelings." - The censored, and closely to the Polish military dictatorship related newspaper Mosarstwowiecz (1930), three years before Hitler came to power.


"We are ready to make a contract with the devil if he helps us fighting against Hitler. Listen: against Germany not only against Hitler. The German blood will be spilled in a future war in such streams like it wasn´t seen since the beginning of the world." - Warsaw newspaper Depesza (20.August 1939)


"We are ready for any war, even with the strongest opponent..." - Polska Zbrojna (25. März 1939), quoted in Walendy, Historische Tatsachen, a.a.O. (Heft 39, S. 16)


"Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it, even if it wants to." - Rydz-Smigly, Chief inspector of the Polish army in a public speech in front of Polish officiers (Summer 1939)

Aeternitas
Saturday, November 6th, 2004, 12:40 PM
Britain/Churchill:


"The Air Ministry agreed that it was most useful to be able to use gas on less sophisticated enemies who would have no idea from where the danger they faced came. The use of gas was banned by the 1925 Geneva protocol." - The Daily Telegraph (January 3, 1997)


"Perhaps the next time round the way to do it will be to kill women, children and the civilian population." - Churchill, quoted during the First World War


"Previously it appeared to me to be a just answer to the crimes of the Third Reich, but I've since changed my mind. Until the Second World War there was a common consensus that the massacre of civilian populations was illegal." - Jörg Friedrich, historian


"I am, of course, a Zionist, and have been ever since the Balfour Declaration." - Churchill quoted in The Official Churchill in One Volume, N.Y. Times (Nov. 6, 1991) by Herbert Mitgang



Eisenhower on German war prisoners:

"God, I hate the Germans..." - Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his wife (September, 1944)


"Prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts." - Dwight David Eisenhower


"Under no circumstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to prisoners of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circumvent this blockade to allow something to come to the prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot."- Dwight David Eisenhower


"For years we have blamed the 1.7 million missing German POW's on the Russians. Until now, no one dug too deeply ... Witnesses and survivors have been interviewed by the author; one Allied officer compared the American camps to Buchenwald." - Peter Worthington, Ottawa Sun (September 12, 1989)


"Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French Army casually annihilated one million [German] men, most of them in American camps . . . Eisenhower's hatred, passed through the lens of a compliant military bureaucracy, produced the horror of death camps unequalled by anything in American history . . . an enormous war crime." - Col. Ernest F. Fisher, PhD Lt., 101 st Airborne Division, Senior Historian, United States Army


"My protests (regarding treatment of the German DEF'S) were met with hostility or indifference, and when I threw our ample rations to them over the barbed wire. I was threatened, making it clear that it was our deliberate policy not to adequately feed them." - Martin Brech, ex-Private First Class, in Company C of the 14th Infantry, assigned as a guard and interpreter at the Eisenhower Death Camp at Andernach, along the Rhine River


"When they caught me throwing C- Rations over the fence, they threatened me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he saw me again tossing food to the Germans ... Some of the men were really only boys 13 years of age...Some of the prisoners were old men drafted by Hitler in his last ditch stand ... I understand that average weight of the prisoners at Andernach was 90 pounds...I have received threats ... Nevertheless, this...has liberated me, for I may now be heard when I relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of 'Ike's death camps' along the Rhine."

"At first, the women from the nearby town brought food into the camp. The American soldiers took everything away from the women, threw it in a heap and poured gasoline over it and burned it." - Former camp prisoner.


"Many a sane American family would recoil in horror if they knew how 'Our Boys' conduct themselves, with such complete callousness in human relationships over here." - A serviceman, the TIME Magazine (November 12, 1945)


"Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French Army casually annihilated one million [German] men, most of them in American camps . . . Eisenhower's hatred, passed through the lens of a compliant military bureaucracy, produced the horror of death camps unequaled by anything in American history . . . an enormous war crime." - Col. Ernest F. Fisher, PhD Lt. 101st Airborne Division, Senior Historian, United States Army.The Morgenthau Plan:

"I further urged the point that by taking south-western Germany we were in a more congenial part of Germany and further away from the dirty work that the Russians might be doing with the Prussians in Eastern Germany. I was inclined to think that I had made an impression on him, but it was impossible to say. I either then or in my former meeting pressed on him the importance of not partitioning Germany other than the allotment of East Prussia to Russia or Poland, and Alsace Lorraine to France and a possible allotment of Silesia to Poland, namely trimming the outer edges of Germany. Other than those allotments I feared that a division of Germany and a policy which would prevent her from being industrialised would starve her excess population of 30 million people, giving again my description of how she had grown during the period between 1870 and 1914 by virtue of her industrialisation..." - Diary of Henry Stimmson, (August 25, 1944)


"Germany must be turned into a waste land, as happened there during the 30-year War." - Das Morgenthau-Tagebuch, The Morgenthau Dairy (p. 11)


"The Morgenthau Plan for Germany ... became part of the Potsdam Agreement, a solemn declaration of policy and undertaking for action ... signed by the United States of America, Great Britain and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics." - New York Post (Nov. 24, 1947)


Allied war crimes:

"At the edge of town, on the left side of the road, stands the large inn 'Weisser Krug' ... In the farmyard further down the road stood a cart, to which four naked women were nailed through their hands in a cruciform position. Behind the Weisser Krug towards Gumbinnen is a square with a monument to the Unknown Soldier. Beyond is another large inn, 'Roter Krug'. Near it, parallel to the road, stood a barn and to each of its two doors a naked woman was nailed through the hands, in a crucified posture. In the dwellings, we found a total of seventy-two women, including children, and one old man, 74, all dead ... all murdered in a bestial manner, except only for a few who had bullet holes in their necks. Some babies had their heads bashed in. In one room we found a woman, 84 years old, sitting on a sofa ... half of whose head had been sheared off with an axe or a spade ... We carried the corpses to the village cemetary where they lay to await a foreign medical commission ... In the meantime, a nurse from Insterburg came, a native of Nemmersdorf, who looked for her parents. Among the corpses were her mother, 72, and her father, 74, the only man among the dead. She also established that all the dead were Nemmersdorfers. On the fourth day the bodies were buried in two graves. Only on the following day did the medical commission arrive, and the tombs had to be reopened. Barn doors were set on blocks on which to lay the bodies so that the commission could examine them. This foreign commission unanimously established that all the women, as well as the girls from eight to twelve years and even the woman of 84 years had been raped. After the examination by the commission, the bodies were again buried." - Karl Potrek's report, a civilian from the capital city of Königsberg, recruited into the Volksturm.


"They were all exhausted and starved and miserable ... A child only half alive ... A woman in the most terrible picture of despair I've seen ... Even when you see it, it's impossible to believe ... God it was terrible." - Robert Allen, Letter from Berlin, Reading magazine (February, 1946)


"When we reached Metgethen, we were confronted with a gruesome sight: We found several hundred dead German soldiers, many of whom had been disfigured beyond recognition. There were murdered civilians in just about every home, likewise disfigured in a most bestial manner. For example, some women had their breasts cut off, and in backyard gardens we found scarcely clad women who had been hanged upside down. In one house we came across a 63-year-old woman still alive. Crying, she told us that she had been raped by 12 to 15 Russians. She lay on the floor covered in blood. This old woman's daughter had escaped into the forest nearby, but her one-year-old child was abducted by the Russians. In the streets of Metgethen, and also at the railroad station, we found approximately 15 baby carriages, some overturned, all empty. We concluded that this meant the Russians had also abducted these babies." - Horst A., at the time a driver for the Intelligence Reserve Detachment I, Königsberg.

Zyklop
Saturday, November 6th, 2004, 01:41 PM
Jews:

"It´s our task to mercilessly declare war to Germany, the public enemy number one." - Bernhard Lecache, President of the Jewish World League (9. November 1938)


"Our Jewish interests demand the final destruction of Germany." - W. Jabotinski, founder of "Irgun Zwai Leumi" (January 1934)


"Hitler doesn´t want war but he will be forced to it, and in fact soon. England has the final say like in 1914." - Zionist Emil Ludwig Cohn "Annalen"


"Although Hitler may want to prevent this war, which can devour him, in the last moment, he will be forced to war anyway." - Emil Ludwig Cohn (1938)


"I asked Joe Kennedy (US embassador in London) about his talks with Roosevelt and N. Chamberlain in 1938. He said it had been Chamberlain´s belief in 1939 that Great Britain has nothing in its hands to fight and therefore wouldn´t dare to go to war against Hitler...Neither the French nor the English would have made Poland a motive for war if they hadn´t been continuously spurred on by Washington...America and the World-Jewry have driven England to war." - US defence minister J. Forrestal 27.12.1945 in his diary (The Forrestal Diaries, New York, 1951, S. 121 ff)


"We managed to drag the United States into the First World War and if they (the US) do what we demand in regards to Palestine and the Jewish armed forces, then we can get the Jews in the USA to drag the United States into this one (the Second World War) too." - Weizmann to Chuchill (September 1941)


"We won this war with atrocity propaganda...and now we will start more than ever! We will continue this atrocity propaganda, we will increase it until nobody will accept one good word from the Germans anymore, until everything is destroyed which might have upheld them sympathies in other countries, and until they will be so confused that they don´t know what to do anymore. When this is reached, when they begin to pollute their own nest, and this not reluctantly but with hasty willingness to obey the winners, only then the victory is complete. It will never be definite. The reeducation demands thorough, steadfast nurture like English lawn. Only one moment of inattention and the weed will break through, this ineradicable weed of historic truth." - Sefton Delmer, former British chief propagandist after the capitulation in 1945 to the German expert on international law Prof. Grimm.

Prince Eugen
Saturday, November 6th, 2004, 10:11 PM
There is a book''War Crimes of Allies'' i had read several years ago.American goverment planned a genocide against Germans!Until now Germany is a nation unter occupation!

Theobald
Wednesday, March 30th, 2005, 09:27 PM
It will be the Polish army that will invade Germany on the first day of war.
The Polish embassador in Paris 15.8.1939:lol :lol :lol
This one is the best. :P

Antonio
Saturday, October 8th, 2005, 03:50 AM
German fought a long lasting war that inevitably ended in a loss. Hitler beyond all people made many mistakes... but the biggest mistake he ever made was declaring war on the world. And not only that but if you wanna get specific... when he declared war on the U.S. Bascially Hitler... was a good motivator of the German people... but he was a very horrible General, sure he could rally the troops and weapons, but he did A LOT of things wrong. The only thing Germany did was take over that was significant was France, and it was more than France's fault anyway.

Aeternitas
Sunday, October 30th, 2005, 03:53 AM
A 1943 psychiatric dossier aimed to humiliate and destroy the German dictator, writes Gary Hughes.

SNATCH the dictator and hold him prisoner to deny him the chance of becoming a martyr. Keep him in isolation, take humiliating photographs and film of him and release them to the public to discredit him. Portray him as a madman, label him the No. 1 world criminal and use him as an example to deter other "crack-brained fanatics".

It reads like the US military's blueprint for dealing with Saddam Hussein during the Iraq war. In fact it was the top secret advice given to the US military 62 years ago this month on how to deal with Adolf Hitler.Source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thea ge.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnational%2Frevealed-at-last-the-dirt-file-on-hitler%2F2005%2F10%2F07%2F1128562999807. html)

Waarnemer
Sunday, October 30th, 2005, 09:59 AM
The dossier was unsympathetic towards Germans, predicting that at the end of the war there would be violent uprisings of slave labourers and civilians in occupied territories. "Much German blood will be spilled," the dossier predicted. "This is as it should be, a fitting Nemesis."

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Aeternitas
Thursday, December 29th, 2005, 02:34 AM
WINSTON Churchill would have sent German Fuhrer Adolf Hitler to the electric chair if he was captured, according to papers released today.

The Prime Minister also said senior Nazis should be shot without trial.

The documents, released today after being secret for years, consist of notes taken by Deputy Cabinet Secretary Sir Norman Brook record Churchill's thoughts on the dictator.Source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thes un.co.uk%2Farticle%2F0%2C%2C2-2005600000%2C00.html)

Hippy
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 02:08 AM
Some more. I had to translate them from German to English so most probably they are not exactly literal.
I appreciate the translations, but why not include the German as well.

Nordraserei
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 03:24 AM
It will be the Polish army that will invade Germany on the first day of war.
The Polish embassador in Paris 15.8.1939
This one is great. Funny that they were conquered in only 18 days. :lol As Landser says:
German:

Wisst ihr noch, im letzten Krieg? In 18 Tagen haben wir sie besiegt. Sie schrieen in einer Woche wären sie in Berlin, als Kriegsgefangene kamen sie noch schneller hin.
English:

Do you remember the last war? In 18 days they were defeated. They screamed that they would march in Berlin in a week, they got there faster as prisoners of war.

Wayfarer
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 04:25 AM
Im currently reading the Spandau diaries of Albert Speer. There is an interesting passage in it where Albert Speer remarks on Nazi military men who were assigned by the Americans to potray Hitler falsely as a maniac, probably to justify the war.

Febuary 10, 1947

The Lithuanian guards still have trouble abiding by the strict regulations. They repeatedly allow me to go into the witnesses' wing with pail and broom. This afternoon I talked there with several generals, one of whom gave me Guderian's regards. The story is that hundreds of high-ranking military men are being held in the so-called generals' camp fairly near Nuremburg. Many of them have been assigned by the Americans to work on problems in military history. From such conversations I get the impression that people are increasingly representing Hitler as a dictatorgiven to raging uncontrollably and biting the rug even on slight pretexts. This seems to me a false and dangerous course. If the human features are going to be missing from the portrait of Hitler, if his persuasiveness, his engaging characteristics, and even the Austrian charm he could trot out are left out of the reckoning, no faithfull picture of him will be achieved. Certainly the generals in particular were not overwhelmed by a despotic force for a whole decade; they obeyed a commanding personality who frequently argued on the basis of cogent reasoning.

Spandau; The secret Diaries,
Albert Speer

Deling
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 10:19 AM
"This one is great. Funny that they were conquered in only 18 days."

I've read that the German army lost 80,000 soldiers conquering western Poland (which is as many as the Finns lost in the wars with Soviet Russia), so the Poles must've surely fought well, atleast.

Siegmund
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 11:06 AM
I've read that the German army lost 80,000 soldiers conquering western Poland (which is as many as the Finns lost in the wars with Soviet Russia), so the Poles must've surely fought well, atleast.
The number you quote is very high compared with the most commonly accepted estimates of German casualties:


German casualties (8082 to 10572 killed, 27,278 to 30322 wounded and 3404 to 5029 missing) were very low compare to Polish casualties (66300 killed, 133700 wounded and 420000 taken prisoner).
[source (http://anonym.to/?http://www.achtungpanzer.com/polcamp.htm)]

And again:


Various sources contradict each other so the figures quoted above should only be taken as a rough indication of losses. The most common range brackets for casualties are: Polish casualties—65,000 to 66,300 KIA, 134,000 WIA; German KIA—8,082 to 16,343, with MIA from 5,029 to 320, total KIA and WIA given at 45,000. The discrepancy in German casualties can be attributed to he fact that some German statistics still listed soldiers as missing decades after the war. Today the most common and accepted number for German KIA casualties is 16,343. Soviet losses are estimated at 737 killed and 1,859 wounded. The often cited figure of 420,000 Polish prisoners of war represents only those captured by the Germans, as Soviets captured about 240,000 Polish POWs themselves, making the total number of Polish POWs about 660,000–690,000.
[source (http://anonym.to/?http://www.answers.com/topic/poland-invasion-of)]

nurnberg
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 11:42 AM
East Prussia is unquestionable German territory. Since my childhood this is my opinon which didn´t need the affirmation by a plebiscite. And that this is my opinion you may tell your East Prussians in a public gathering in Königsberg for reassurance.
The president of the Polish state and Marshall Josef Pilsudski who mysteriously lost his life in the 1930´s, to the German foreign minister Gustav Stresemann on the 10th December 1927.
And now today Konigsberg is neither German nor Polish but Russian!



" it seems that Pilsudski is one of the few great statesman, of the 20th Century to have made some sense. For example, he wanted to make a preventative war with France (France preferred to build its famous Maginot Line) against Nazi Germany and constantly complained about the modern build up of arms, but the Eurocentrics of the West would not listen. They liked to treat Pilsudski as some kind of exotic imperialist romantic, not to be listened to, while they themselves were highly civilized and far from being imperialistic. Pilsudski's federalist idea was that Poland, being the largest and most advanced country in East-Central Europe, should associate itself with adjoining nationalities, like the Czechs, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Belorussians and Ukrainians. All these nations would have the same status within one federation. This would have weakened Russia, while at the same time strengthening Poland and the other Central European nations. Today this sounds like a worthy alternative to NATO and the EU, in regards to Central Europe."

Adolf Hitler on Poland and Pilsudski:
"There is little to be said as regards German-Polish relations. Here, too, the Peace Treaty of Versailles (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/menu.htm)-of course intentionally-inflicted a most severe wound on Germany. The strange way in which the Corridor giving Poland access to the sea was marked out was meant, above all, to prevent for all time the establishment of an understanding between Poland and Germany. This problem is-as I have already stressed-perhaps the most painful of all problems for Germany. Nevertheless, I have never ceased to uphold the view that the necessity of a free access to the sea for the Polish State cannot be ignored, and that as a general principle, valid for this case, too, nations which Providence has destined or, if you like, condemned to live side by side would be well advised not to make life still harder for each other artificially and unnecessarily. The late Marshal Pilsudski, who was of the same opinion, was therefore prepared to go into the question of clarifying the atmosphere of German-Polish relations, and, finally, to conclude an agreement whereby Germany and Poland expressed their intention of renouncing war altogether as a means of settling the questions which concerned them both."


Of course Churchill sums up the war quite frankly in saying that Germany's sin was in her withdrawal from the international economic system which guaranteed depressions and dependency (effective loss of sovereignty).

Zyklop
Monday, January 2nd, 2006, 03:26 PM
I appreciate the translations, but why not include the German as well.To my knowledge only English is allowed in the international section of Skadi.

nordbert
Wednesday, January 25th, 2006, 08:13 PM
germans had very much enemies.... and they have them too today. i live in 'poland' ( East Prussia) and many polands didn't like germans and say that silesia, east prussia danzig are only the polish terrytory, germans have nothing to them...:/ thats sucks.... i love mein folk, and i don.t want to hear someting like that. how is in france, italy, england? ?

and sorry for my english ;)

Feanor
Saturday, May 27th, 2006, 10:52 PM
Zyklop and Aeternitas, thanks a lot for these quotes. They show a real story about plans to draw Germany and powers of Axis into a war.
It's good to know the other side of the story.

Aeternitas
Saturday, June 24th, 2006, 09:36 PM
"In spring of 1921, long before Hitler ever made his first appearance as Party speaker, posters were put up in the city of Posen and fliers were distributed, bearing the following text: 'This is the broom with which we shall sweep the last Germans out of Poland! Any of the German scum that is still here in July 1921 will be killed without exception, and the worst hakatists will be doused with gasoline, petroleum and tar, set on fire and burned... This means all of you: all doctors, clergymen, lawyers, leaseholders, settlers, owners of every kind of property - anyone who is German or Jewish!'" ~ Siegfried Heppner,
Die mitteleuropäische Slawenfrage, 1995, p. 110.

German:

"Lange bevor Hitler überhaupt das erste Mal als Parteiredner aufgetaucht war, wurden im Frühjahr 1921 in der Stadt Posen Plakate geklebt und Flugblätter verteilt, auf denen zu lesen war: 'Mit diesem Besen werden wir die letzten Deutschen aus Polen hinausfegen! Wer noch im Juli 1921 da ist von dem deutschen Gesindel, wird ohne Ausnahme niedergemacht, und die größten Hakatisten werden mit Benzin, Petroleum und Teer begossen, angesteckt und verbrannt... Jetzt kommt Ihr alle dran, alle Ärzte, Pastoren, Rechtsanwälte, Domänenpächter, Ansiedler, Besitzer aller Art, - wer Deutscher oder Jude ist!'"

English source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wint ersonnenwende.com%2Fscriptorium%2Fenglis h%2Farchives%2Fquotations%2Fquotations01 .html)
German source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wint ersonnenwende.com%2Fscriptorium%2Fdeutsc h%2Farchiv%2Fzitate%2Fzitate01.html)

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, June 25th, 2006, 07:14 AM
Im currently reading the Spandau diaries of Albert Speer. There is an interesting passage in it where Albert Speer remarks on Nazi military men who were assigned by the Americans to potray Hitler falsely as a maniac, probably to justify the war.

Febuary 10, 1947

The Lithuanian guards still have trouble abiding by the strict regulations. They repeatedly allow me to go into the witnesses' wing with pail and broom. This afternoon I talked there with several generals, one of whom gave me Guderian's regards. The story is that hundreds of high-ranking military men are being held in the so-called generals' camp fairly near Nuremburg. Many of them have been assigned by the Americans to work on problems in military history. From such conversations I get the impression that people are increasingly representing Hitler as a dictatorgiven to raging uncontrollably and biting the rug even on slight pretexts. This seems to me a false and dangerous course. If the human features are going to be missing from the portrait of Hitler, if his persuasiveness, his engaging characteristics, and even the Austrian charm he could trot out are left out of the reckoning, no faithfull picture of him will be achieved. Certainly the generals in particular were not overwhelmed by a despotic force for a whole decade; they obeyed a commanding personality who frequently argued on the basis of cogent reasoning.

Spandau; The secret Diaries,
Albert Speer

Albert Speer had a habit of saying what was expedient at the time. As I recall, other Germans in Spandau refused to talk to Speer for what he had already said (Hess and Doenitz).

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, June 25th, 2006, 07:32 AM
I think that in World War One the enemies of Germany could have been called noble. World War One was really the last of the type of European war fought in Europe for centuries. The military in all participating countries loved it.

World War Two was quite a different matter. Revenge for World War One was part of it for the Germans as the treaty they were forced to sign was an insult. Hitler clearly wanted war with the Soviets for a number of reasons so after the Soviets were attacked, who can fault them for defending themselves? France, who was the designer of the Tready of Versailles (forgive my spelling), was just an old enemy of Germany and punching bag for their bad feelings over the treaty.

It is really the British and Americans we are talking about here. Churchill's mother was an American. He knew where to turn. Chruchill was a British nationalist of the type of the previous century. Any challenge to Britain would have angered him. But without Roosevelt's support, the British would have had to accomodate Hitler one way or another. Roosevelt opposed Hitler and Nazism on an intellectual basis and hated the Nazis. He was willing to drag America into the war for his own personal prejudices. Roosevelt was willing to back Churchill for no other reason than his hate of Hitler. This was a personal thing and a personal thing only---sorta like what's up with George Bush. Roosevelt was not an honorable man nor was he a noble man. He put his own politics ahead of the interest of his country. Roosevelt manouvered America into a position in opposition to Germany. At the time, Americans did not want to get involved with this war. All he, Roosevelt, had to do was await a stoke of luck like the sinking of the Lusitania has been in the First World War or, in this case, the Japan-Germany treaty and Peal Harbor.

Spjabork
Sunday, June 25th, 2006, 08:22 AM
I think that in World War One the enemies of Germany could have been called noble. World War One was really the last of the type of European war fought in Europe for centuries. The military in all participating countries loved it.
This is, how they try do depict it now, for some unknown, obscure reason. I don't buy this for two pence. You only have to look at the allied "German atrocity"-propaganda to know that this isn't true. German soldiers, grinning disgustingly and slitting open babies, drinking their blood etc. This was lacking in WWII. The slogan in England toward the end of the war was: "Hang the Kaiser and make Germany pay!"

George Orwell reports, that the word "Nazi" in a way wasn't new to the common people, but only replaced the older term "Prussian", meaning very much the same thing. And Churchill - Orwell goes on - learned from WWI in that he only started to pronounce the word "Führer" correctly in his broadcast speeches, after the man in the street already did it for a while. The same "process" as with the word "Kaiser".
In short: "The Prussian Kaiser strafes us!" = "The Nazi Fuehrer blitzes us!"

Sorry to tell you this, but you must study more sources of that very time, ore that two times.


Churchill's mother was an American. He knew where to turn.His personal debts were paid for him by his Jewish friends.


Roosevelt opposed Hitler and Nazism on an intellectual basis and hated the Nazis. He was willing to drag America into the war for his own personal prejudices.
Again, his hatred was not confined to the "Nazis", but embraced all Germans. He cherished a deep, almost pathological dislike for all Germans and all things German. Already in WWI he was a fervent supporter of Americas entry into the war. Interestingly, he held a similar position as Churchill did: he was Vice Secretary of the Navy, Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty.


Roosevelt was willing to back Churchill for no other reason than his hate of Hitler.
He had another good reason: ten million unemployed US-Americans on the eve of Pearl Harbour, after nine years of New Deal.


Roosevelt was not an honorable man nor was he a noble man. He put his own politics ahead of the interest of his country. Roosevelt manouvered America into a position in opposition to Germany. At the time, Americans did not want to get involved with this war.
Couldn't agree more. This is absolutely right.


All he, Roosevelt, had to do was await a stoke of luck like the sinking of the Lusitania has been in the First World War or, in this case, the Japan-Germany treaty and Peal Harbor.
No. He didn't wait & see, but he personally engineered that "stoke of luck".

This book is a must-read:
Hamilton Fish: FDR The Other Side of the Coin. How We Were Tricked into World War II. (Published by Vantage Press, Inc.,New York 1976) "FDR" stands for Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Hamilton Fish was from 1920 to 1945 one of the most prominent leaders of the U.S. Congress. Toward Germany and the Germans he bears a rather detached, "neutral" attitude. Exactly this neutrality makes his testimony so valuable and his judgement so deadly for Roosevelt.

Siegmund
Monday, June 26th, 2006, 11:32 PM
"In spring of 1921, long before Hitler ever made his first appearance as Party speaker, posters were put up in the city of Posen and fliers were distributed, bearing the following text: 'This is the broom with which we shall sweep the last Germans out of Poland! Any of the German scum that is still here in July 1921 will be killed without exception, and the worst hakatists will be doused with gasoline, petroleum and tar, set on fire and burned... This means all of you: all doctors, clergymen, lawyers, leaseholders, settlers, owners of every kind of property - anyone who is German or Jewish!'" ~ Siegfried Heppner,
Die mitteleuropäische Slawenfrage, 1995, p. 110.

German:

"Lange bevor Hitler überhaupt das erste Mal als Parteiredner aufgetaucht war, wurden im Frühjahr 1921 in der Stadt Posen Plakate geklebt und Flugblätter verteilt, auf denen zu lesen war: 'Mit diesem Besen werden wir die letzten Deutschen aus Polen hinausfegen! Wer noch im Juli 1921 da ist von dem deutschen Gesindel, wird ohne Ausnahme niedergemacht, und die größten Hakatisten werden mit Benzin, Petroleum und Teer begossen, angesteckt und verbrannt... Jetzt kommt Ihr alle dran, alle Ärzte, Pastoren, Rechtsanwälte, Domänenpächter, Ansiedler, Besitzer aller Art, - wer Deutscher oder Jude ist!'"

English source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wint ersonnenwende.com%2Fscriptorium%2Fenglis h%2Farchives%2Fquotations%2Fquotations01 .html)
German source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wint ersonnenwende.com%2Fscriptorium%2Fdeutsc h%2Farchiv%2Fzitate%2Fzitate01.html)
Indeed, Polish hostility toward ethnic Germans is almost as old as the Polish identity itself.

A few choice quotations from a highly interesting article entitled The Image of the Germans in Polish Literature (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fanonym.t o%2F%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Flitek.ws%2Fk0nsl%2Fd etox%2FGermansInPolishLiterature.html):


The Gneneser Archbishop, Jakob Swinka, around the turn of the 13th century, habitually called the Germans 'dog's heads'. Thus he said of a bishop at Brixen that he would have been an excellent preacher, had he not been a 'dog's head' and a German.From popular Polish sayings:


"Co Niemiec, to pies."

Whoever is a German, is a dog.
"Zdechly Niemiec, zdechly pies, mala to roznica jest."

A dead German is a dead dog, there's not much difference.From famous Polish novelists throughout history:


Jan Kochanowski, in "Proporzec" (1569) calls the Order of the Teutonic Knights "pies niepocigniony" -- "unexcelled dogs".

R.W. Berwinski, in "Powiesci Wielko-Polskie" (Tales of Greater Poland) 1844, speaks of "the Germans, the damned race of dogs."

Jozef Szujski, in his play "Krolowa Jadwiga" (Queen Hedwig) (1866), act II, scene 2, says: "A Teutonic dog sank down from his horse."

Adolf Dygasinski, in his novel "Demon" (1866), says: "psy szwabscie "German dogs", and, at another point, exclaims, "and who brought you to Poland, you dogs?"Polish atrocities against Germans are well known: see, for example, here (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fanonym.t o%2F%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jrbooksonline.co m%2Fpolish_atrocities.htm) and here (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Flitek.ws %2Fk0nsl%2Fdetox%2FBromberg1.html). Among many other things:


As we shall see, it is not just abstract theory when Polish writers speak and write of "bloody German dogs". The first month of the war proved that, in September 1939. According to Lueck, p. 271: "the Poles threw dead dogs into many of the graves of murdered ethnic Germans. Near Neustadt in West Prussia, the Poles cut open a captured German Luftwaffe officer's abdomen, rippped out his intestines, and packed a dead dog inside."Note the official Polish attitude before the outbreak of hostilities in 1939:


As a matter of fact, already after the First World War Poland drove far more than a million Germans out of West Prussia and Upper Silesia, denounced the minority protection agreement imposed by the League of Nations, closed German schools and cultural institutions in large numbers and forbade German newspapers. Poland answered the German demand for self-determination in Danzig and West Prussia with mobilisation of it's troops. The Poles overestimated their own strength and underestimated that of the Germans. The Polish Foreign Minister Lipski told the English Ambassador Hendersen: "I do not think of advocating peace. If war comes, there will be revolution in Germany within three days and Poland can march in". In the Polish army "au revoir in Berlin" was introduced as a toast. Polish Marshal Rydz-Smigly said to his army officers (according to the English newspaper, Daily Mail on 6th August 1939): "Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to".[Source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fanonym.t o%2F%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.patriot.dk%2Fpol and.html)]

From an English translation of the early Goebbels Diaries, here is a portion of the entry for 10 October 1939:


The Führer's verdict on the Poles is damning. More like animals than human beings, completely primitive, stupid and amorphous. [...] The Poles' dirtiness is unimaginable. Their capacity for independent judgement is absolutely nil. Even Lipski believed that we would lose our nerve after a week of war. Poor fool!

The Führer has no intention of assimilating the Poles. They are to be forced into their truncated state and left entirely to their own devices.

Aeternitas
Wednesday, June 28th, 2006, 10:00 PM
"The Prime Minister [Winston Churchill] had been asked if the bombing of Germany ought not really to focus on military targets rather than civilian ones. In the words of the French source, Churchill's reply was, 'D'abord le plaisir, après le travail' (Pleasure before work), and thus the bombs were directed at the residential quarters instead." ~ Wilhelm Backhaus ~ Quoted in: Hamburger Abendblatt, 21. September 1963.

Spjabork
Thursday, June 29th, 2006, 07:11 AM
"The Prime Minister [Winston Churchill] had been asked if the bombing of Germany ought not really to focus on military targets rather than civilian ones. In the words of the French source, Churchill's reply was, 'D'abord le plaisir, après le travail' (Pleasure before work), and thus the bombs were directed at the residential quarters instead." ~ Wilhelm Backhaus ~ Quoted in: Hamburger Abendblatt, 21. September 1963.
I cannot verify this source (HA ~ "French" etc.).

You asked me to put forward more sources. If I had acces to the "upper thousand"
(not ten), i.e. the Lords, Senators & their Jewish siblings, I could. But this access I am denied. Also, I would not like to mix with them.

I always felt, that Churchill was not clean - let alone sober -, that he was a swine. I was sure, but it's difficult to prove it. For as stupid as he was, at least this wisdom had made it into his mentally distorted brain: That you must not utter certain things in public. If you can't hold them back, just say them in a "safe" environment. And never write them down.

Siegfried
Thursday, June 29th, 2006, 07:51 AM
German fought a long lasting war that inevitably ended in a loss. Hitler beyond all people made many mistakes... but the biggest mistake he ever made was declaring war on the world.

He never declared war "on the world". Britain and France declared war on Germany, because the German expansion eastward threatened their interests. At that time, the British Empire was the most important world power, whose political interests would be hurt if Germany established a large continental empire.


And not only that but if you wanna get specific... when he declared war on the U.S.

Because of his pact with Japan. Pearl Harbour may have been "out of the blue" for the general American public, it surely wasn't for Roosevelt. The Japanese expansion in the East hurt American economic interests, particularly in Shanghai, so Roosevelt began depriving Japan of oil. This caused Japan to expand southwards to conquer oil wells. The lack of oil was also one of the main reasons Japan would not help Germany out in the attack on the USSR; the Japanese simply would not have been able to maintain a war in Russia. Instead, the Japanese attacked the American naval fleet, hoping a sufficiently decisive blow could render the oil embargo ineffective.

If you're interested in a decent mainstream source, I would recommend the BBC documentary The Road to War. It's still slanted against the Axis (particularly Germany), of course, but it does give a good impression of Roosevelt's double-faced politics and plainly states Hitler did not want war with France and Britain.

Leofric
Thursday, June 29th, 2006, 08:16 AM
'D'abord le plaisir, après le travail' (Pleasure before work).
Is that translated correctly?

Spjabork
Thursday, June 29th, 2006, 10:02 AM
Is that translated correctly?
Yes. "d'abord" means "(what comes/lies) at first/next", "plaisir"="pleasure", "apres" means "(what comes) after", "travail"="work".

The question is: has he really said this? As I said before, this is the crucial point and this is now - after most eye-witnesses have passed away - extremely difficult to prove.

But Churchill was always boasting with his ability to parlor in French. It made him - as he thought - sort of "classical" Grand Seigneur. It very much fits him and I have no doubt the sentence is authentic.

Aeternitas
Thursday, June 29th, 2006, 01:00 PM
Yes, I agree it is difficult to prove. As far as the source is concerned, one can find this quote and many more by following the link I posted earlier:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/quotations/quotations01.html

It is stated there, for example in the case of James Addison Baker's quote on Hitler, that the source isn't verified. I assume the same would have been done about Backhaus's quote, so I assume it was verified in some way, at least.


Is that translated correctly?Yes, it is. An ad literam translation would be "First pleasure, afterwards work".

Aeternitas
Sunday, July 16th, 2006, 04:13 PM
Sven Hedin in his book Amerika im Kampf der Kontinente: "But once the great turning point had come in Germany's fate, the democrats fell upon her again; they did not understand that it was they themselves who, through their short-sightedness, had brought about this turning point. They had broken promises, and then accused the new German state leadership of breach of contract because it is always easier to shift the blame onto someone else than to take responsibility oneself. All of the suggestions that Germany made for the safeguarding of peace were either rejected or ignored, until Germany grew tired of seeking trustful co-operation with the other powers. Germany began to throw off her fetters herself, and to create a national arsenal for herself that would equal that of her neighbors, who had never complied with their disarmament obligations in the first place. [...]On May 21, 1935, Adolf Hitler said in the Reichstag: 'Any war first of all devours the nation's very best... By raising the birth rate, a healthy social policy can bless its nation with more children of its own in the course of a very few years than a war could conquer and gain in foreigners. No! National-Socialist Germany wants peace, out of profound ideological conviction.' Nobody can deny that this is a true and convincing program for peace.

Source (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wint ersonnenwende.com%2Fscriptorium%2Fenglis h%2Farchives%2Fworminapple%2Fwa09.html)

More quotes here (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wint ersonnenwende.com%2Fscriptorium%2Fenglis h%2Farchives%2Fworminapple%2Fwa08.html).

Zyklop
Friday, October 6th, 2006, 12:02 PM
"Many of you have in your veins German and Italian blood. But remember that these ancestors of yours so loved freedom that they gave up home and country to cross the ocean in search of liberty. The ancestors of the people we shall kill lacked the courage to make such a sacrifice and remained slaves."

General George S. Patton to his troops before the American invasion of Italy

Tabitha
Friday, October 6th, 2006, 12:35 PM
Bomber Harris famously said: "Germany has sown the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind." This was a direct reference to the German bombing of London - a residential city, that triggered the Allied response of eventually bombing Germany cities. However it should be noted that bombing was so inaccurate that missions frequently targeting military establishments went awry. It is said that only 5 per cent of bombs fell within 5 miles of their chosen target.

Winston Churchill may be a swine to you, but he is held in the highest regard as the saviour of the British people. He enjoyed a drink, smoked too many cigars, and, like all war leaders, made mistakes. Yet he held the island fortress of Britain inviolate, we can ask for no more from a Prime Minister.





I cannot verify this source (HA ~ "French" etc.).

You asked me to put forward more sources. If I had acces to the "upper thousand"
(not ten), i.e. the Lords, Senators & their Jewish siblings, I could. But this access I am denied. Also, I would not like to mix with them.

I always felt, that Churchill was not clean - let alone sober -, that he was a swine. I was sure, but it's difficult to prove it. For as stupid as he was, at least this wisdom had made it into his mentally distorted brain: That you must not utter certain things in public. If you can't hold them back, just say them in a "safe" environment. And never write them down.

Spjabork
Friday, October 6th, 2006, 12:57 PM
Bomber Harris famously said: "Germany has sown the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind." This was a direct reference to the German bombing of London - a residential city, that triggered the Allied response of eventually bombing Germany cities.Dear Tabitha, to discuss this problem in-depth would require to immerse into a highly specialised scrutiny of military thinking and air warfare already before WWII.

The Italian general Giulio Douhet wrote in the 20ies a very famous book about the importance of strategic bombing in a future war. Churchill and Harris knew that book.

I have seen Harris in a documentary film, speaking to the British people, where he stated: "... some people say, strategic bombing cannot decide a war. Well, it hasen't been tried yet." (This is a film from that time I saw on TV, so I can't give you the "source", I only know this film does exist. Sometimes, I feel like Orwell. ;) :|)
In that same TV-doc it also was said, that Harris was somewhat disappointed, that after the war the British didn't erect memorials for him everywhere.

Winston Churchill may be a swine to you, but he is held in the highest regard as the saviour of the British people. He enjoyed a drink, smoked too many cigars, and, like all war leaders, made mistakes. Yet he held the island fortress of Britain inviolate, we can ask for no more from a Prime Minister.I know what you feel. Churchill has been your war leader. The British always rally behind their leaders in the war as if they were a crew on a ship. And they always commemorate and venerate them after each war. This is really admirable.

I strongly recommend to you this book of an Englishman: "Churchill and the End of Glory" by John Charmley.

Flag-Soil
Sunday, November 12th, 2006, 10:09 PM
"When the National Socialists and their friends cry or whisper that this [the war] is brought about by Jews, they are perfectly right." - The Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago (8 October 1940)


"For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community at each conference in all our syndicates and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will start a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand Germany's total destruction, collectively and individually. The German nation is a threat to us Jews." - Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist organisation, Mascha Rjetach(January 1934)


"Even if Hitler at the last moment would want to avoid war which would destroy him he will, in spite of his wishes, be compelled to wage war." - Emil Ludwig Cohen in his book The New Holy Alliance( Strasburg, 1938)


"It is our task to organise the moral and cultural blockade of Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless war." - Bernard Lechache in The Right to Live (December 1938)


"The millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North Africa and South, not forgetting Palestine, have decided to carry on the war in Germany to the very end. It is to be a war of extermination." - 'The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederlands (13 September 1939)

Flag-Soil
Sunday, November 12th, 2006, 10:18 PM
Bomber Harris famously said: "Germany has sown the wind and now they will reap the whirlwind." This was a direct reference to the German bombing of London - a residential city, that triggered the Allied response of eventually bombing Germany cities.

That's good British propaganda you're repeating verbatim there, well done you've watched a few documentaries on the History Channel.

Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had given an assurance that:
'The British Government would never resort to the deliberate attack on women and children and other civilians for the purpose of mere terrorism.' However, his successor Winston Churchill appointed as his personal adviser the Jew Professor Lindemann, a man with a pathological hatred for Nazi Germany, and an almost medieval desire for revenge that was part of his character.

Lindemann, later Lord Cherwell, suggested the bombing of German cities and that working class areas were legitimate targets, and from then onwards the last vestiges of civilised decency in warfare were abandoned.

These bombings began on 10 August 1940 with the bombing of the small open town of Freiburg on the Swiss frontier. Fifty-three civilians were killed, including twenty children playing in the park. It was reported by Mr. Taylor of the American Red Cross in the New York Times of 3 May 1940.

This was before the Germans began bombing British cities. Mr. J. M. Speight, CBE, Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry, wrote in his book The Splendid Decision:
'Adolf Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian targets... It gave Coventry, Birmingham, Sheffield and Southampton the right to look Kiev, Kharkov, Stalingrad and Sebastopol in the face. Our Soviet allies would have been less critical of our inactivity if they had understood what we had done... Hitler would have been willing at my time to stop the slaughter. Hitler was genuinely anxious to reach with Britain an agreement confining the action of aircraft to battle zones.'

Aeternitas
Friday, December 15th, 2006, 10:56 PM
"It was the World Jewish Congress that saw to it that the Nuremberg Trials were held, for which it supplied experienced advice and most valuable evidence - and it was the World Jewish Congress that had such far-reaching connections during the war that these extended even into the German Foreign Office, and that it received information even long before the British Secret Service received it." - Maurice Perlzweig, Chief of the British Section of the World Jewish Congress, said in an address in Langside Hall in London on November 27, 1949, Jewish Chronicle, London (December 16, 1949. Quoted in: UN, 8/83 p. 4.)


"The Jewish World Congress has been at perpetual war with Germany for seven years." - Maurice Perlzweig, Chief of the British Section of the World Jewish CongressFebruary 26, 1940, in an address according to the Toronto Evening Telegram, quoted by Dr. Hans Riegelmann in: UN, 8/83, p. 4.

Vingolf
Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 12:03 AM
The British always rally behind their leaders in the war as if they were a crew on a ship. And they always commemorate and venerate them after each war. This is really admirable.

Churchill was not reelected in 1945, though...

Tochter-des-Lichts
Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 06:25 AM
I just want to add the most shocking demand of the German Antifascism-organisation:

"Bomber Harris, do it again."
(With such posters they stood in Dresden, 14th February 2006... and of cause the years before.)

Mit deutschem Gruß!
Lichttochter

Tabitha
Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 11:45 AM
No I haven't but I have worked as researcher for two books that have been published on the subject.




That's good British propaganda you're repeating verbatim there, well done you've watched a few documentaries on the History Channel.

Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had given an assurance that:
'The British Government would never resort to the deliberate attack on women and children and other civilians for the purpose of mere terrorism.' However, his successor Winston Churchill appointed as his personal adviser the Jew Professor Lindemann, a man with a pathological hatred for Nazi Germany, and an almost medieval desire for revenge that was part of his character.

Lindemann, later Lord Cherwell, suggested the bombing of German cities and that working class areas were legitimate targets, and from then onwards the last vestiges of civilised decency in warfare were abandoned.

These bombings began on 10 August 1940 with the bombing of the small open town of Freiburg on the Swiss frontier. Fifty-three civilians were killed, including twenty children playing in the park. It was reported by Mr. Taylor of the American Red Cross in the New York Times of 3 May 1940.

This was before the Germans began bombing British cities. Mr. J. M. Speight, CBE, Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry, wrote in his book The Splendid Decision:
'Adolf Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian targets... It gave Coventry, Birmingham, Sheffield and Southampton the right to look Kiev, Kharkov, Stalingrad and Sebastopol in the face. Our Soviet allies would have been less critical of our inactivity if they had understood what we had done... Hitler would have been willing at my time to stop the slaughter. Hitler was genuinely anxious to reach with Britain an agreement confining the action of aircraft to battle zones.'

Carl
Saturday, December 16th, 2006, 02:51 PM
Winston Churchill may be a swine to you, but he is held in the highest regard as the saviour of the British people. He enjoyed a drink, smoked too many cigars, and, like all war leaders, made mistakes. Yet he held the island fortress of Britain inviolate, we can ask for no more from a Prime Minister.

As Nietzsche , no admirer of Germans (:-O ) wrote:

"Love your enemies , they bring out the best in you!"
---so was he mad?

I've always thought it sad that it came to the necessity of war ; I guess the concept of necessity is being questioned here... and the interests involved! For the people and the lands , it was a disaster. Maybe even Churchill , the great man , was simple a tool of higher powers, His winning words but the cover for greater intentions. Destroy Germany ? but it only took only a few years before they were forced to recognize the problems which resulted - and to quickly re-arm Germany in their own interests ( and ours) ! Isn't history tragic and absurd!

Didn't Hitler say somewhere that "the war" would destroy the British Empire? Didn't Churchill live to lament it!? Look at it now --- it's come to live!! I'd love to know what Churchill would think of his lovely Britain now....the great man. For sure we were "saved" ( just? )....but saved for what future? More Spengler than Churchill, I imagine .....more downfall now than glorious Empire! :(

Nachtengel
Friday, February 27th, 2009, 05:41 AM
Great thread. I'll add something to the quotes by Churchill:


Churchill Wanted to 'Drench' Germany With Poison Gas

Mark Weber

In a secret wartime memorandum recently made public, Winston Churchill told his advisers that he wanted to "drench" Germany with poison gas. Churchill's July 1944 memo to his chief of staff Gen. Hastings Ismay was reproduced in the August-September 1985 issue of American Heritage magazine.

"I you to think very seriously over this question of poison gas," the four-page note began. Britain's wartime leader continued; "It is absurd to consider morality on this topic when everybody used it [gas] in the last war without a word of complaint from the moralists or the Church. On the other hand, in the last war the bombing of open cities was regarded as forbidden. Now everybody does it as a matter of course. It is simply a question of fashion changing as she does between long and short skirts for women."

Churchill's directive bluntly stated: "I want a cold-blooded calculation made as to how it would pay to use poison gas ... One really must not be bound within silly conventions of the mind whether they be those that ruled in the last war or those in reverse which rule in this." Specifically he proposed: "We could drench the cities of the Ruhr and many other cities in Germany in such a way that most of the population would be requiring constant medical attention ... It may be several weeks or even months before I shall ask you to drench Germany with poison gas, and if we do it, let us do it one hundred per cent. In the meantime, I want the matter studied in cold blood by sensible people and not by the particular set of psalm-singing uniformed defeatists which one runs across now here now here now there."

Churchill's proposal, which would have meant violating the 1925 Geneva Protocol outlawing the use of poison gas, was never adopted. His military advisers argued that gas warfare would divert Allied war planes from the more effective strategy of bombing Germany's industries and cities. Gas attacks would not be decisive, they feared, and Germany would very probably retaliate with devastating effect against Britain. Churchill complained to an associate that he was "not at all convinced by this negative report," but he reluctantly gave in. "Clearly I cannot make head against the parsons and the warriors at the same time," he complained in private.

The American Heritage article, written by Stanford University history professor Barton J. Bernstein, also reported that top American military officials urged the U.S. to begin gas warfare against Japan. Maj. Gen. William N. Porter, chief of the Chemical Warfare Service, pleaded in mid-December 1943 with U.S. Army superiors to initiate gas warfare against the Japanese, and on several occasions in 1945 Gen. George C. Marshall, U.S. Army chief of staff, urged using gas in the Pacific. There was some popular support for this view. The New York Daily News declared "We Should Gas Japan," and Washington Times-Herald agreed, explaining "You Can Cook `Em Better with Gas." But this was a minority view. About 75 percent of Americans reportedly opposed initiating gas warfare. After the war Gen. Marshall said that the main reason that gas wasn't used was opposition from the British, who feared that a desperate German might then use it in Europe.

The United States produced about 135,000 tons of chemical warfare agents during the war, while Germany turned out about 70,000 tons, Britain about 40,000 and Japan only 7,500 tons. Although the Allies had larger stockpiles of traditional chemical agents, Germany developed far more advanced and lethal nerve gasses, most notably the devastating agents Tabun, Sarin and Soman. They were never used.

After the war a British Army chemical warfare expert concluded that Germany could have delayed the June 1944 Allied cross-channel invasion by six months if it had gas. "Such a delay," he noted, "could have given the Germans sufficient time to complete their new V-weapons, which would have made the Allies’s task all the harder and England's long range bombardment considerably worse." Even in March and April 1945, when German military resistance was rapidly collapsing, Germany kept to it’s pledge not to use gas. Hitler reportedly refused to consider using poison gas in part because of his recollection of the horror of his own gassing during the First World War, which temporarily blinded him.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p501b_Weber.html

Willow
Friday, February 27th, 2009, 10:26 AM
I saw a tv programme about the greatest Brits of all time, and Churchill was voted (by the public, I believe) number one...:|

Florian Geyer
Friday, February 27th, 2009, 01:33 PM
I saw a tv programme about the greatest Brits of all time, and Churchill was voted (by the public, I believe) number one...:|

Not by me he wasn't! :)

Nachtengel
Friday, February 27th, 2009, 08:09 PM
I saw a tv programme about the greatest Brits of all time, and Churchill was voted (by the public, I believe) number one...:|
I don't think that's a surprise. It's a question of perception. Churchill is presented as a war hero. Besides, Stalin is popular with many Russians too:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=111263

These people won the war and their countries were victorious. If Germany had won, I have no doubts Hitler would have been voted as one of the greatest Germans instead one of the worst, as he is perceived now.

Renwein
Saturday, February 28th, 2009, 03:43 AM
I don't think that's a surprise. It's a question of perception. Churchill is presented as a war hero. Besides, Stalin is popular with many Russians too:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=111263

These people won the war and their countries were victorious. If Germany had won, I have no doubts Hitler would have been voted as one of the greatest Germans instead one of the worst, as he is perceived now.

I agree, it's just human nature that any 'war hero' will be elevated to 'great' status no matter what things might have been. So, Churchill is 'the greatest briton' whilst Oswald Mosley was named the worst briton of the 20thC. and most people think of him as a traitor (although he never did actually did anything treacherous).

So you can see that in the earlier post by Tabitha, with Anthill as the 'saviour of the people' who held the 'fortress inviolate' (in that case he was lucky to have the sea between us, otherwise we'd have been steamrolled too - as for saviour of the people, this salvation has now pretty much guaranteed our demise, although I guess you can't blame him for that directly. as for the 'victory' we couldn't have won either, it was the USA and the USSR that did it). But I can understand how someone who holds as being defiant in the face of great odds will always seem a great hero to the people he represents...

In Buchanan's book (haven't read it, just going by summaries, but he's probably right) it says Anthill's main goals were to i) keep the strength of the British Empire, (ii) avoid a hostile power controlling europe, and (iii) "oppose a socialistic britain" - all of which failed, after WWII britain lost its empire and power, eruope was mostly under USSR control and the cold war, and socialist-dervied ideas have destroyed the country - the ironic thing is that if Mosley had been in charge (not that he was ever close) all Anthill wanted could have been achieved, plus he would have ensured the integrity of our culture and nation, but he is the villain and Anthill the hero - sad but that's the way it turns out 'written by the winners' :(

Ahnenerbe
Sunday, March 22nd, 2009, 05:37 PM
"Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite! Boycott of German Goods! Mass Demonstrations!" - Headlines in the Daily Express (March 24, 1933)


"The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany. Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily Express (March 24, 1933)


"Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping.... we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends." - Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York (August 6, 1933, reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933)



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Samuel Untermeyer




"Joining with Samuel Untermeyer in calling for a war against Germany, Bernard Baruch, at the same time, was promoting preparations for war against Germany. 'I emphasised that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit.'" - Baruch, The Public Years, by Bernard M. Baruch (p.347)

[Samuel Untermeyer was a Jewish leader and close friend of presidents Wilson and Roosevelt.

Bernard Baruch was a presidential adviser to Wilson, Roosevelt and Truman.]



"This declaration called the war against Germany, which was now determined on, a 'holy war'. This war was to be carried out against Germany to its conclusion, to her destruction". - Dr. Franz J. Scheidl, Geschichte der Verfemung Deutschlands


"War in Europe in 1934 was inevitable." - H. Morgenthau, Secretary of the U.S. (quoted in The Palestine Plot by B. Jenson, p. 11).

"For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews." - Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in Histoire de l'Armée Allemande by Jacques Benoist-Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).


"Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon." - Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book The New Holy Alliance).


"We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany." - David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quoted in I Testify Against The Jews by Robert Edward Edmondson, page 188 and The Jewish War of Survival by Arnold Leese, page 52)


"We want to bring about a deep hatred for the Germans, for German soldiers, sailors, and airmen. We must hate until we win." - Lord Beaverbrook, quoted in Niemals! by Heinrich Goitsch.


"There is only one power which really counts. The power of political pressure. We Jews are the most powerful people on earth, because we have this power, and we know how to apply it." - Vladimir Jabotinsky in Jewish Daily Bulletin (July 27, 1935)


"Before the end of the year, an economic bloc of England, Russia, France and the U.S.A will be formed to bring the German and Italian economic systems to their knees." - Paul Dreyfus, La Vie de Tanger (May 15, 1938)


"On the 3rd of June, 1938, the American Hebrew boasted that they had Jews in the foremost positions of influence in Britain, Russia and France, and that these "three sons of Israel will be sending the Nazi dictator to hell." - Joseph Trimble, The American Hebrew.


"Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her. One may be sure of this: We will lead that war!" - Bernard Lecache, the president of the "International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism," in its newspaper Droit de Vivre (Right to Life) (9 November, 1938)


"The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish hegemony throughout the world." - Brigadier General George Van Horn Mosely, The New York Tribune (March 29, 1939)


"I wish to confirm in the most explicit manner, the declaration which I and my colleagues made during the last months, and especially in the last week: that the Jews "stand by Great Britain and will fight on the side of the democracies." Our urgent desire is to give effect to these declarations. We wish to do so in a way entirely consonant with the general scheme of British action, and therefore would place ourselves, in matters big and small, under the co-ordinating direction of His Majesty's Government. The Jewish Agency is ready to enter into immediate arrangements for utilizing Jewish manpower, technical ability, resources, etc." - Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, the London Times, September 5, 1939, and the London Jewish Chronicle, September 8, 1939.


"The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end." - Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland (September 13, 1939)


"Stop talking about peace conditions! Break Germany in pieces!" - The Daily Herald, No.7426 (9 December, 1939)


"The Jews, taken collectively, view this war as a holy war." - The Daily Herald, No.7450, 1939, quoted in Reichstagsbrand, Aufklärung einer historischen Legende, by U. Backes, K.H.Janßen, E.Jesse, H.Köhler, H.Mommsen, E.Tobias.


"Even if we Jews are not physically at your side in the trenches, we are morally with you. This war is our war and you fight it with us." - Schalom Asch, Les Nouvelles Litteraires (February 10, 1940)


"In losing Germany, Jewry lost a territory from which it exerted power. Therefore it was determined to reconquer it." - Louis Marschalko, The World Conquerors : The Real War Criminals


"The World Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years." - Rabbi M. Perlzweig (head of the British Section of the World Jewish Congress), Toronto Evening Telegram (February 26, 1940)


"The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of Judaism." - Rabbi Felix Mendlesohn, Chicago Sentinel (October 8, 1942)


"We are not denying and are not afraid to confess that this war is our war and that it is waged for the liberation of Jewry... Stronger than all fronts together is our front, that of Jewry. We are not only giving this war our financial support on which the entire war production is based, we are not only providing our full propaganda power which is the moral energy that keeps this war going. The guarantee of victory is predominantly based on weakening the enemy forces, on destroying them in their own country, within the resistance. And we are the Trojan horses in the enemy's fortress. Thousands of Jews living in Europe constitute the principal factor in the destruction of our enemy. There, our front is a fact and the most valuable aid for victory." - Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, in a Speech on December 3, 1942, in New York.


"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America." - Adolf Hitler (April 1945)


"Played golf with Joe Kennedy (U.S. Ambassador to Britain). He says that Chamberlain stated that America and world Jewry forced England into World War II." - James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy (later Secretary of Defense), Diary, December 27, 1945 entry.


Source: Nexus Board
(http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexu sboard.net%2Fshowthread.php%3Fsiteid%3D6 365%26threadid%3D297596)

Blusnayl
Sunday, March 22nd, 2009, 06:50 PM
Interesting post...I honestly had no idea about a lot of that. That the Jews were trying to destroy Germany and provoke Hitler into declaring war despite his not wanting to do so...and yet none of that information is ever taught in the history books or schools/universities. I'd always wondered why the Holocaust was really initiated...I have a better picture now. There's more to it than the traditional "it's because the Nazis were evil" propaganda they throw at you nowadays.

I don't personally hate them, but the Jews are a genuinely concerning bunch, the sheer amount of media companies and major banks they control around the world makes me wonder.

Aptrgangr
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 02:28 PM
So the Jews started the war but did not make the governments they allefedly controlled to attack Germany when it had just a 100,000 man army without heavy weapons? Or, did the Jews make the NS regime start the war they wanted?

Leonhardt
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 02:46 PM
I always thought that Poland was used as an agitator. Then Britain could jump in, drag in the US again, and fulfill their agreement to build Israel.(Belfour Agreement)

The Jews in question were based in London, and New York. They had the war drums in the media going overdrive demonizing the Germans. Then the people think they want to go to war.

I forgot to mention the Appeasement of Germany, which made them feel it was OK to go for territorial expansion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

Aptrgangr
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 07:26 PM
I always thought that Poland was used as an agitator. Then Britain could jump in, drag in the US again, and fulfill their agreement to build Israel.(Belfour Agreement)

Why so complicated? Germany broke the Versailles Treaty - a casus belli - already in 1935. If the allied where so keen for a war, why didn´t they use that chance before Germany re-arms?
Why did the Jews need a war with Germany to create Israel - they could have put pressure on GB, as mighty as they were?


The Jews in question were based in London, and New York. They had the war drums in the media going overdrive demonizing the Germans. Then the people think they want to go to war.
So Germany did not want war, and the Czech Republic, Poland, Luxembourg, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, GB + Empire, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia, Greece, USA, USSR etc. were the tools of Jewish power and wanted war?


I forgot to mention the Appeasement of Germany, which made them feel it was OK to go for territorial expansion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikip edia.org%2Fwiki%2FAppeasement)
The appeasement policy was backed because the British government knew they were wrong to sell France´s revenge against Germany as just policy - and agreed to German military sovereigny as well as the re-union with German soil -> Sudetenland.

Hauke Haien
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 07:49 PM
The appeasement policy was backed because the British government knew they were wrong to sell France´s revenge against Germany as just policy - and agreed to German military sovereigny as well as the re-union with German soil -> Sudetenland.
False. The so-called appeasement was accompanied by rearmament and largely motivated by the need for additional time to get ready and to keep Germany focused on the other party in this three-way struggle, the Soviet Union. The decision to "defend" Poland is in this sense a result of overestimated German strength and the Soviet Union gained half of Europe as a result. I am not sure if we really could have destroyed Slavia without Western interference, but that does not matter anyhow. The Russian Federation will never amount to what the Soviet Union once was. We now have bigger fish to gut.

Aptrgangr
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 08:54 PM
False. The so-called appeasement was accompanied by rearmament and largely motivated by the need for additional time to get ready and to keep Germany focused on the other party in this three-way struggle, the Soviet Union.
Get ready for what? To defeat a country that has a small army with a tiny fleet? Why did thy not intervene when Germany gave the casus belli?
The German re-armament caused the need to catch up,
How did the appeasement policy try to focus Germany´s attention towards the USSR?


The decision to "defend" Poland is in this sense a result of overestimated German strength and the Soviet Union gained half of Europe as a result.
If Hitler did not have had invaded the Czech Republic, the British government wouldn´t have given a blanco-cheque to Poland.


I am not sure if we really could have destroyed Slavia without Western interference, but that does not matter anyhow. The Russian Federation will never amount to what the Soviet Union once was. We now have bigger fish to gut.
If we had been happy with what was ours, we would be way bigger than we are now.

Anfang
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 09:00 PM
I think we should see the Russians in a Different light. I am not a Russophile,
but the fact is thet the Anglo Americans have done more harm to us than the Russians. That is, the Anglo Americans and their special friends...
Speaking of special friends (Directed to Aptrgangr) , I always wonder why people invariably underestimate them, or think that they do not play on the world stage.

Two words for you= International Banking.

Aptrgangr
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 09:30 PM
I think we should see the Russians in a Different light. I am not a Russophile,
but the fact is thet the Anglo Americans have done more harm to us than the Russians. That is, the Anglo Americans and their special friends...
The biggest problem is our own decadence.


Speaking of special friends (Directed to Aptrgangr) , I always wonder why people invariably underestimate them, or think that they do not play on the world stage.

Two words for you= International Banking.
Where did I underestimate them here?
You are free to answer this:

So the Jews started the war but did not make the governments they allefedly controlled to attack Germany when it had just a 100,000 man army without heavy weapons? Or, did the Jews make the NS regime start the war they wanted?

Koenigsberg
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 09:33 PM
The reason Germany was not invaded in 1935 or 1936 is because the war would have been short and thus not profitable.

Hitler knew war would be forced on him and acted responsibly by starting it at an appropriate time.

It was just by chance, or some would say by Providence, that he lost.

Hauke Haien
Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 11:34 PM
Get ready for what? To defeat a country that has a small army with a tiny fleet? Why did thy not intervene when Germany gave the casus belli?
France had a defensive orientation right until its conquest, both caused in no small part by its early demographic problems. A British Expeditionary Force was not going to conquer Europe on its own.


The German re-armament caused the need to catch up,
Of course, the Allies would have preferred that we had kept a small army and a tiny fleet and to maintain that imbalance was undoubtedly a goal.


How did the appeasement policy try to focus Germany´s attention towards the USSR?
I do not understand the question? If you have three centres of power and two are maintaining good relations, the third is obviously out of luck. This turned out to be Germany and, after the "Cold War", the Soviet Union collapsed as well.


If Hitler did not have had invaded the Czech Republic, the British government wouldn´t have given a blanco-cheque to Poland.
It was probably feared that Germany would become too strong if she expanded any further.


If we had been happy with what was ours, we would be way bigger than we are now.
If we had been happy with what was ours, we would not have anything in the first place.

forkbeard
Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 12:19 AM
The cause of WW2 was ultimately a consequnce of the British foreign policy and secret alliances with France prior to WW1. Therefore primarily Britain is to blame.
This comes from one whose forparents fought in both WW1 and WW2 for Britain.

Had it been clear Britain would have sided with France, should Germany attack and violate Belgian neutrality, Germany would have not gone to war in the West.
If Britain had remained neutral in WW1 a German occupation of Paris would have played out as in 1870. the troops would have occupied France for a year and then gone home.
No general conflagration. No treaty of Versailles. No Russian revolution. No communism, No Hitler, No holocaust. No israel. no vietnam. No anti-racist movement. No Islamic fundamentalism.
The question is who was responsible for the treaties and hidden British foreign policy prior to WW1. Was it the British government or a hidden hand.

Protocol of Zion No2 is quite clear in stating the aim of making White nations slaughter each other in the 20th century. "the loss of the best of their blood will hand them over to our cause."

Aptrgangr
Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 11:41 AM
France had a defensive orientation right until its conquest, both caused in no small part by its early demographic problems.
They started to solve that demographic problem by recruiting masses of Africans.


A British Expeditionary Force was not going to conquer Europe on its own.

I do not know of a plan to conquer Europe.


Of course, the Allies would have preferred that we had kept a small army and a tiny fleet and to maintain that imbalance was undoubtedly a goal.

Then, why did they not enforce this policy?


I do not understand the question?
The so-called appeasement was accompanied by rearmament and largely motivated by the need for additional time to get ready and to keep Germany focused on the other party in this three-way struggle, the Soviet Union.
Why did the allies not invade when Germany had a 100,000 man army without heavy weapons? Why did the Germans build no strong Ostwall like in the west the Westwall?


If you have three centres of power and two are maintaining good relations, the third is obviously out of luck.
Germany gambled away her luck.


This turned out to be Germany and, after the "Cold War", the Soviet Union collapsed as well.
That collapse overall is meaningless for us (except the GDR was merged with the FRG)


It was probably feared that Germany would become too strong if she expanded any further.
This fear was well founded.


If we had been happy with what was ours, we would not have anything in the first place.
How is that?



The cause of WW2 was ultimately a consequnce of the British foreign policy and secret alliances with France prior to WW1. Therefore primarily Britain is to blame.
Why is that?


This comes from one whose forparents fought in both WW1 and WW2 for Britain.
Britain - the British people were repeatedly betrayed by their ruling caste. So were we Germans.


Had it been clear Britain would have sided with France, should Germany attack and violate Belgian neutrality, Germany would have not gone to war in the West.
It was clear Britain would support Belgium, Belgium is a British creation. The German government saw the Prussian guarantee to respect Belgium´s neutrality as a worthless piece of paper.


If Britain had remained neutral in WW1 a German occupation of Paris would have played out as in 1870. the troops would have occupied France for a year and then gone home.
No general conflagration. No treaty of Versailles. No Russian revolution. No communism, No Hitler, No holocaust. No israel. no vietnam. No anti-racist movement. No Islamic fundamentalism.
The question is who was responsible for the treaties and hidden British foreign policy prior to WW1. Was it the British government or a hidden hand.
If. But why should they have remained neutral? It was the German imperalism that made them to forge the Entente Cordiale with France, the unjustified German meddling in world-affairs that are not our business made the rivals France and GB join forces.


Protocol of Zion No2 is quite clear in stating the aim of making White nations slaughter each other in the 20th century. "the loss of the best of their blood will hand them over to our cause."
Tell that those who want to start revenge wars against former WW2 foes.

Leonhardt
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 06:12 AM
Why so complicated? Germany broke the Versailles Treaty - a casus belli - already in 1935. If the allied where so keen for a war, why didn´t they use that chance before Germany re-arms?There were two main motivations, British economic hegemony and Israel.
Germany had better relations with the Chamberlain administration. When Churchill came to power, it went to war quickly.


Why did the Jews need a war with Germany to create Israel - they could have put pressure on GB, as mighty as they were?
Germany still had designs on the Middle East, and had not been defeated yet.
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The Balfour promise still needed to be fulfilled by GB, I do not know the details.


So Germany did not want war, and the Czech Republic, Poland, Luxembourg, Belgium, The Netherlands, France, GB + Empire, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia, Greece, USA, USSR etc. were the tools of Jewish power and wanted war?
I am only familiar with the Jewish media influence in the US, I do not know about the other countries.


The appeasement policy was backed because the British government knew they were wrong to sell France´s revenge against Germany as just policy - and agreed to German military sovereigny as well as the re-union with German soil -> Sudetenland.

Though the British and French were pleased, as were the German military and diplomatic leadership, Hitler was furious. He felt as though he had been forced into acting like a bourgeois politician by his diplomats and generals. Hitler now regarded Chamberlain with utter contempt. A British diplomat in Berlin was informed by reliable sources that Hitler viewed Chamberlain as "an impertinent busybody who spoke the ridiculous jargon of an outmoded democracy. The umbrella, which to the ordinary German was a symbol of peace, was in Hitler's view only a subject of derision".[2] Also, Hitler had been heard saying: "If ever that silly old man comes interfering here again with his umbrella, I'll kick him downstairs and jump on his stomach in front of the photographers".[3]

*Hitler in his speech to his generals on 22 August 1939, a week before the invasion of Poland:

"The enemy did not expect my great determination. Our enemies are little worms, I saw them at Munich. [...] Now Poland is in the position I wanted. [...] I am only afraid that some bastard will present me with a mediation plan at the last moment."[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

It is interesting to research where outside finance money to Germany was coming from, but I do not have the links. The Bush family had some assets confiscated for supporting Germany. It is speculated that some money came from London as well.

TheGreatest
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 04:13 PM
Hitler could had just taken the Polish Corridor and stopped at that. Instead he conquered the whole country and split the territory with the Soviet Union.

Second was making peace with France and not France + England.

Thusnelda
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Second was making peace with France and not France + England.
I think Hitler wanted peace with England (the flight of Rudolf Heß for example, or the freedom for the British expedition corps at Dunkirk are clear examples of Germany´s good will) but Churchill wanted the war. :|

Renwein
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 11:42 PM
The biggest problem is our own decadence.

Where did I underestimate them here?
You are free to answer this:
So the Jews started the war but did not make the governments they allefedly controlled to attack Germany when it had just a 100,000 man army without heavy weapons? Or, did the Jews make the NS regime start the war they wanted?

*puts on conspiracy hat*

as a plausible explanation we could use 'the Rothschild formula' as interpreted here (arguable... but maybe has something to it?): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ISP_EcJzlI (3 mins. into the clip)

I don't think it's so straitforward to inspire the populace to commit a 'brutal' war against a feeble opponent like you suggest (especially after WWI) either... ('build a credible threat' has something to it - weapons of mass destruction anyone? :D)

on WWII specifically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izjXc3or8Uw

US funding of germany at the time is quite well documented, as mentioned before some "US Lefties" use one of Bush's ancestors involvement to 'prove' Bush is a Nazi :D (at least it's not as bad as the current growing 'US Rightists' trend of comparing obama to hitler // calling bank bailouts 'fascism' // saying liberals are fascists etc :|)

it's also known to continue up to present eg. Saddam & Osama were funded by US before they became flavour-of-the-day enemies ;)

Hyperboreanar
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 12:39 AM
Jews caused WW2.

It was Jews who got Hitler into power.

Even the SS was founded by a Jew called Emil Maurice.

Aptrgangr
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 09:35 PM
There were two main motivations, British economic hegemony and Israel.
Explain how British economic hegemony is related to this issue.
Why didn´t the international Jew support the pro-zionist dendencies in the German administarion more?
And, do you want to tell me those Jews that allegedly were poweful enough to drag the nations into a world war were not powerful enough to make the British empire to give them some square miles in the Palestinian desert?

The Brits volunteerly withdrew their troops from Germany in 1929, why didn´t they stay there? In 1935 France and the USSR made a pact to encircle Germany, it was the British foreign minister Simon who warned France in april 1935 not to carry out measures that would drag GB into a new war against Germany, in march 14th 1936 the British said in front of the League of Nation the re-militarizing of the Rhineland by the Germans was no threat to France and did not support any measures against Germany. Again it was GB that wanted to save the peace, like GB only hesitantly had supported the French and Belgian vengeful and unjust occupation policy from 1921 on.


Germany had better relations with the Chamberlain administration. When Churchill came to power, it went to war quickly.
Churchill was made First Lord of the Admiralty in sept. 3rd 1939, he became Prime minister in may 10th 1940, after the war had begun.
If Germany would have appreciated the British government of Chamberlain, they would not have invaded the Czech Republic after the German Sudetenland already had been given to Germany in Munich 1938. This move made the British government and public turning against Germany.


Germany still had designs on the Middle East, and had not been defeated yet.
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The Balfour promise still needed to be fulfilled by GB, I do not know the details.
And?


I am only familiar with the Jewish media influence in the US, I do not know about the other countries.

Why didn´t the Jewish media influence make the US Senate to ratify the Versailles Treaty? Why did the alleged Jewish super-power USSR neither support the Versailles Treaty?

Leonhardt
Friday, March 27th, 2009, 05:24 AM
Explain how British economic hegemony is related to this issue.
It is one of the reasons for conflict with GB. It reminds me of when Rome knocked out their main competitor Carthage.


Why didn´t the international Jew support the pro-zionist dendencies in the German administarion more?
Their power base is in London and New York, not Berlin. They already had the Balfour promise to work with. If one wants to really read into Jew news, it would be interesting to read all their motivations for supporting Germany earlier, and then suddenly having such a violent change in opinion a few years before the war. If you read what they were writing, you would not ask such a question.


And, do you want to tell me those Jews that allegedly were powerful enough to drag the nations into a world war were not powerful enough to make the British empire to give them some square miles in the Palestinian desert?
They influence public opinion and politicians $$$.
They need to have the public perception justified. You can buy politicians, but land comes through war.



The Brits volunteerly withdrew their troops from Germany in 1929, why didn´t they stay there?
I am not a student of British history. It is probably related to economics, diplomatic relations, and regime changes.


In 1935 France and the USSR made a I pact to encircle Germany, it was the British foreign minister Simon who warnd France in april 1935 not to carry out measures that would drag GB into a new war against Germany, in march 14th 1936 the British said in front of the League of Nation the re-militarizing of the Rhineland by the Germans was no threat to France and did not support any measures against Germany. Again it was GB that wanted to save the peace, like GB only hesitantly had supported the French and Belgian vengeful and unjust occupation policy from 1921 on.
Instead of looking at it as peaceful, I look at it as when does a war benefit them or not.


Churchill was made First Lord of the Admiralty in sept. 3rd 1939, he became Prime minister in may 10th 1940, after the war had begun.
If Germany would have appreciated the British government of Chamberlain, they would not have invaded the Czech Republic after the German Sudetenland already had been given to Germany in Munich 1938. This move made the British government and public turning against Germany.
:thumbup, Churchill was more of a fighter, it takes two to fight.



Why didn´t the Jewish media influence make the US Senate to ratify the Versailles Treaty? Why did the alleged Jewish super-power USSR neither support the Versailles Treaty?
I do not study Jewish history either. I am not sure what Jewish opinion was around WWI.
The main push of the media around WWII in the US was the demonizing of Germans.
I have not alleged anything with USSR yet, it required Yalta to get them aligned.
I think Stalin was more of a national communist, although he pretended to be an international communist to gain power.

Chlodovech
Friday, April 10th, 2009, 10:33 PM
US funding of germany at the time is quite well documented

Sure, but the bankers thought Hitler was like all other politicians, and that he wouldn't carry on with implementing his political program. After Austria joined Germany they realised Hitler was out of their control and he and Germany had to be crushed, like Napoleon and France a century earlier - which is what happened. International money deserted Hitler early on, and actually supported his adversaries, yet that part of the story is less known nowadays.


as mentioned before some "US Lefties" use one of Bush's ancestors involvement to 'prove' Bush is a Nazi :D

Yes, which is hysterical nonsense. :) There is no evidence that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, even though he made good money by working for Brown Brothers Harriman, BBH acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade.

If American high society or the Bush family was/is really nazi, then America and its past would look very differently.


Hitler could had just taken the Polish Corridor and stopped at that. Instead he conquered the whole country and split the territory with the Soviet Union.Second was making peace with France and not France + England.

True, but the UK guaranteed Polish independence months earlier. It made a temporary alliance with Stalin important in order to avoid a war on two fronts, and military speaking it makes no sense to start a limited invasion and then to hold on the limited gains that have been made. The enemy's fighting capabilities remain intact and you hand out the initiative to him, while warfare is about imposing your will on the enemy. Think of the Yom Kippur war and how the Egyptians eventually lost to the Israelis, after occupying the Suez Canal, hoping the latter would sue for peace.

Besides, there were/are more territories in Poland than the Danzig corridor that belong to Germany.

Anfang
Friday, April 10th, 2009, 11:06 PM
It is one of the reasons for conflict with GB. It reminds me of when Rome knocked out their main competitor Carthage.


Their power base is in London and New York, not Berlin. They already had the Balfour promise to work with. If one wants to really read into Jew news, it would be interesting to read all their motivations for supporting Germany earlier, and then suddenly having such a violent change in opinion a few years before the war. If you read what they were writing, you would not ask such a question.


They influence public opinion and politicians $$$.
They need to have the public perception justified. You can buy politicians, but land comes through war.



I am not a student of British history. It is probably related to economics, diplomatic relations, and regime changes.


Instead of looking at it as peaceful, I look at it as when does a war benefit them or not.


:thumbup, Churchill was more of a fighter, it takes two to fight.



I do not study Jewish history either. I am not sure what Jewish opinion was around WWI.
The main push of the media around WWII in the US was the demonizing of Germans.
I have not alleged anything with USSR yet, it required Yalta to get them aligned.
I think Stalin was more of a national communist, although he pretended to be an international communist to gain power.


Those that are removed from the locations where the zionists are, do not have an idea of how serious the problem is. Part of it is because the workings of the 'systems" are so complex that is hard to belive thet are centrally coordinated/. Things do not have to be centrally coordinated to a totalitarian
style leve. Intelligent people, guyded by by similar sources that inform them will come to reprocicating conclusions especially if they share the same cultural ethical-educational background.

In part what the jewish capitalists had was the indepth knowlge and partial control of a finantial system they were instrumental in creating.

I have made this somewhat facile analogy in the past= If Russia is a Bear and Germany a wolf, then The Anglo-saxon Empire (and now present day America) is a Dumb Bull with a Fox wispering in it's ear.
We do not know exactly what it was that the Zionist Capital class were wispering in the Anglo American's ears, but i would bet that it had to do with the instilling of fear about the possible german challenging of the Anglo American Hegemoy in the four corners of the world. They were talking directly not to the English or anglo saxon people but to the Anglo Saxon Ruling class , which like they, were capitalists.

Ahnenerbe
Monday, July 27th, 2009, 05:05 PM
They never draw lessons from their past; still looking for troubles :D


"When it comes to the Amalek of our times, Germany, there is an on-going war, a never-ending war, a war for generations...There can never be forgiveness or contact or relations or anything to do with them. They are beyond the pale and daily, the Jew must pray for the ultimate destruction of a German people that never received an iota of the punishment they deserved...If the Almighty ever allows me to become Prime Minister of Israel...there will be nothing but an Amalek whose memory we will blot out as much as possible until the great day when the Almighty finishes the mitzvah of vengeance." - Rabbi Meir Kahane, "Halachic Overview," The Jewish Press, Oct. 12, 1990, p. 49).


"The rebuilding of postwar Germany into one of the world's most affluent nations is a moral disgrace. A minimal appropriate response to the collective responsibility of the German people for the crimes of their leaders...should have been a generation of poverty." - Harvard University's Jewish professor of law, Alan Dershowitz, in his book, Chutzpah


"Derlich wrote that it is the duty of 'a king in Israel...to eradicate Amalek without leaving any trace...one must show no pity for any creature from the nation of Amalek--man, woman, child...There is no doubt that in the last generation we met the Amalekite enemy...in the form of the German nation," - Israeli army's chief chaplain on the occupied West Bank, Rabbi Shmuel Derlich, in a 1000 word pastoral letter to Jewish soldiers calling for the total extermination of "Amalek", Jerusalem Post, May 17, 1986.)

MCP3
Thursday, September 3rd, 2009, 07:29 PM
The British Government was by this time being pressed very hard to do something to "stop Hitler"; and on March 21st, 1939, it very unwisely gave a guarantee to Poland. On September 1, Hitler sent his army against Poland and conquered her in under three weeks. As a result, the British, in obedience to their guarantee, declared war on Germany on September 3, followed later in the day and with obvious reluctance by the French.
British historian R.Grenfell 1953 in "Unconditional Hatred"

Witta
Wednesday, December 23rd, 2009, 03:51 PM
Hitler had a part to play in WW2, by invading neighbouring countries. Germany was a resurgent nationalist state, but that didn't massage his ego satisfactorily.

It was his Austrian arrogance that ultimately drove all that success into the wall. His pomposity alienated every country that should have been allies except Italy and Japan. If such a man tried again to domineer over Europe I am in no doubt a European alliance would again quickly be formed to unconditionally knock him off his high horse. Judge people by their results and ultimately, he was a disaster for Germany, not for Austria, for Germany. Also many Jews would have adapted to the new Germany and it was a crude response to pile every single last one onto trains. The nazis didn't hold the patent on racialism as most of the science came from Britain, what they did do was incorporate it into their huge disaster.

Bittereinder
Thursday, December 24th, 2009, 06:50 AM
One may also wonder that as late as 1943, three and one half years into the war and eleven years after Hitler was elected, there were still 10,000 Jews living openly and freely in the German capital, and married to German wives. Such facts disprove allied propaganda and so they are hidden carefully from sight. It is also interesting to note that whilst in Hitler’s capital city, such numbers of Jews were allowed to go about their business freely, had they been of Japanese descent and living in the United States, all would have been rounded up; men, women and children; orphans and the offspring of mixed marriages, and confined to concentration camps.
Clearly it was healthier to be a Jew in Berlin, 1943 than it was to be the unfortunate child product of a Japanese-American marriage!
“In 1939, six years after Hitler was elected, there were still 120,000 Jews living voluntarily in Germany.” (Heinz Roth, Why Are We Being Lied To?)


Germany’s reduced dependency upon imports and its phenomenal increase in productivity and exports provided Germany with an economic and social advantage with which neither Britain, the USA and the USSR could compete. Furthermore, severe social deprivation, the effect of the Great Depression, social unrest and economic uncertainty in these countries were in contrast to Germany which was experiencing an economic and social miracle. Germany had to be destroyed. Hitler was well aware that Britain and America would seek to resolve their problem by initiating a trade war that would destroy Germany and grab its markets. “The war was not just a matter of the elimination of Fascism in Germany, but rather of obtaining German sales markets.” (Winston Churchill, Fulton, March 1946)


“I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war. But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the ‘Americans’ around Roosevelt.” (Sir. Hartley Shawcross, British Attorney General)


NATIONAL SOCIALIST PHILOSOPHY CONTRARY TO WAR AND CONQUEST
“The repeated declaration, for example, that it is against Nazi convictions to want to turn Poles, Frenchmen or Czechs into Germans is based on the idea that the process must lead ‘to the destruction of the German elements, and that the ‘victors would thus in reality become the vanquished’.
“When Nazis assure me that they regard the conquest of non-German elements as likely to weaken them, I am inclined to believe it, as racial purity is a fundamental article of their faith. It is this faith itself which is leading them to adopt a more conciliatory attitude towards the adjoining races.” H. Powys-Greenwood, Hitler’s First Year

“However, she does not want to fight at all if it can be helped; and the racial idea itself leads her to be thoroughly alive to the terrible threat of modern warfare to women and children, the bearers of the race, and to the dangers that would threaten the white races in the event of another internecine struggle.” H. Powys-Greenwood, Hitler’s First Year

“If their legitimate aspirations are thwarted and their tentative moves towards reconciliation with former enemies rejected; if their attempts to get in touch with other people—the British people above all—and evoke sympathetic understanding at least of some of their aims, are met by a persistent barrage of uncomprehending criticism; the chance of influencing the still young plant of National Socialism will be thrown away and the New Germany, leaders and led alike, may in despair turn to the blatant gospel of force.

“A preventive war, which always seems to me to be the acme of defeatism, the action of men or nations who have no confidence in their future, would at any rate be more logical.” H. Powys-Greeenwood, Hitler’s First Year

“One young S.S. Man from the Rhineland, who had been telling me harrowing tales of the Negro occupation, added that as a German nationalist nothing would please him better than a war of revenge against France, but as a National Socialist, with the good of the people at heart, he earnestly wished to end a thousand years of futile conflict with the hereditary enemy.”—H. Powys-Greenwood, Hitler’s First


“He (Hitler) is totally convinced that England wants to strike Germany down again, and that everything which he himself undertakes, therefore, has a defensive character. Nevertheless, not very long ago, in an intimate circle on the Ober-Salzburg, Hitler expressed this opinion:
‘A European war could be the end of all our efforts even if we should win, because the disappearance of the British Empire would be a misfortune which could not be made up again. If they, the British Government, force me into belligerency however, then I will seize the initiative and will use every means at my disposal’.”—Carl. J. Burckhardt, High Commission of the League of Nations, 1938


On February 1st, 1945, Poland’s General Anders reproached Winston Churchill for not adhering to the English guarantees:

“What shall we say to our soldiers? Soviet Russia is now confiscating half of our territory and wants the remaining part of Poland to be managed according to her own fashion. We know from experience where that leads.”—General Anders

“You yourself are to blame for that… we did not guarantee your eastern frontiers. Today we have enough soldiers and do not need your aid. You can remove your divisions. We are not using them anymore!”—Winston Churchill

“You did not say that during the last few years.”—General Anders

Such duplicity! By his words, Churchill openly admits that Poland was cynically used to provide the excuse and justification for declaring war on Germany, with the catastrophic results we are now familiar with. Little wonder that so much regarding the Second World War all these years on has to be wrapped in a tissue of lies and omissions.


“We entered the war of our own free will, without ourselves being directly assaulted.” —Winston Churchill, Guild Hall Speech, July, 1943


“Germany is too strong. We must destroy her.”—Winston Churchill, Nov. 1936.
* Poland occupying German territory stolen in 1914 invades Czechoslovakia (March, 1939). Numerous violations of German borders. Germany retaliates, Sept, 1939
* Britain and France declare war on Germany, 3rd Sept, 1939. Germany retaliates, 10th May, 1940. British and French Troops routed.
* Russia invades Finland, Nov 30th, 1939.
* Britain and France invade Norway’s neutrality, 8th April, 1940. Germany retaliates, 9th April. 2,000. German troops rout 13,000 British troops.
* Canada declares war on Germany, 10th Sept, 1939.
* Russia invades Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Rumania, June, 1940.
* Britain declares war on Finland, Rumania and Hungary, 7th Dec, 1941. British backed coup overthrows Yugoslav government, 27th March, 1941, British troops enter Greece, 6th April, 1941. Germany retaliates—Britain retreats.
* Britain prepares to invade neutral Portugal, June, 1940. Germany retaliates. ‘Neutral’ America attacks German shipping, Aug, 1941. Germany retaliates.
“There can be no doubt that he (Hitler) broadened the war in 1941 only on preventive grounds.”—A.J.P. Taylor, British Historian.


“Since dawn today we are shooting back. I desire nothing other than to be the first soldier of the German Reich. I have again put on that old coat which was the most sacred and dear to me of all. I will not take it off until victory is ours or—I shall not live to see the end. There is one word that I have never learned: capitulation.”—Adolf Hitler, Reichstag speech, 1st September, 1939

From WITNESS TO HISTORY by Michael Walsh

Jäger
Thursday, December 24th, 2009, 08:50 AM
Germany was a resurgent nationalist state, but that didn't massage his ego satisfactorily.
Just because you fail to understand the reasons for this war, doesn't mean you should make some up for your ego.

Mouse Shadow
Tuesday, June 1st, 2010, 04:41 AM
God, it makes me painfully sick in my heart to read those old quotes. Especially the evil jew ones. How deftly monstrous they are at propaganda.

I think every single person, every religion needs to scribe one thing onto their brain and into their books so we don't get manipulated by the sociopathic scum ever again.

'Good People should never fight Good People'.

If we obeyed that golden rule, it would force us to ask why we are taking arms against each other. Ie, it's plain and simple. Why are we really fighting?

If our citizens, leaders, kids etc kept saying that, the real answers would come out. Ie, some greedy, manipulating sociopathic spew is trying to sacrifice us for a sleezy dollar. They are the ones who should be butchered!

Bernhard
Thursday, June 3rd, 2010, 04:40 PM
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/Uniting_Danzig.htm

This is a very interesting speech on this topic. It's quite a read but it's worth it. The problem is of course that it is always hard to distinguish between truth and propaganda (or the intermediate: exageration) when it comes to speeches. The intention of course is to win over the people who you address, but it is interesting nonetheless.

OneWolf
Friday, June 4th, 2010, 05:14 PM
The question "Who started WW2" is simple.It all came down to a shitty little document known as the"Treaty of Versailles" and it set the stage for WW2.
The Treaty that Germany signed with with the Allies after WW1 was one of the most vilest and cruel documents ever concieved by man. It basically meant that Germany would be a Slave state and that most of it's citizens would starve.Lets take a look at the "Punishment" dished out by Allies.

The Paris Peace Conference opened on January 12, 1919. Meetings were held at various locations in and around Paris until January 20, 1920. Leaders of 32 states representing about 75% of the world's population, attended. However, the five major powers, the United States, Britain, France, Italy, and Japan dominated negotiations. Important figures in these negotiations included Georges Clemenceau (France) David Lloyd George (Britain), Vittorio Orlando (Italy), and Woodrow Wilson (United States).

The Versailles Treaty was one of the products of the conference. The Germans believed that the treaty would be based on President Wilson’s Fourteen Points, which offered a framework for a just peace, and the hopes that any future international tension would be prevented. The Germans believed the Fourteen Points would have resulted in drastically less devastation to Germany if used in the treaty. However, the Big Four were determined to punish Germany for the war, and so they did.

This treaty held Germany solemnly responsible for WWI. Germany was forced to pay reparations totaling 132,000,000,000 in gold marks, they lost 1/8 of its land, all of its colonies, all overseas financial assets, a new map of Europe was carved out of Germany, and the German military was basically non-existent. To the German people they were being ruthlessly punished for a war not only were not responsible for but had to fight.

Pretty nasty when you look at it.The old saying "You can only kick a dog so many times before it bites back" comes to mind and that was true here only it was not a dog that bit back it was a pack of hungry,furious,miserable but proud pack of wolves that bit back and bite back they did.

So to me,this is the reason why WW2 was started.France and England where pissed off because Germany was not going to tolerate these terms and I don't blame them.These folks had contributed way to much to society to be reduced to a bunch of Niggers and that is exactly what happened. ;)

Ocko
Friday, June 4th, 2010, 06:02 PM
@ Chlodovech

The banksters were upset with Hitler because of the aim of the 3. reich to be autark. They didn't want any credits from jewish banksters anymore and that would set a dangerous precedence for all other nations, especially as Germany flourished tremendously with no taking any credit anymore.

The jewish banksters reacted by trying to hamper Germanies trade relations. It came down that Germany had to barter with their products to get necessary supplies. The jewish banksters also manipulated the USA government in boycotting goods out of Germany. The boycott lastet until 1949. then Germany was forced to print 'Made in Germany' on all its products. That was meant that no one should by goods from them. But it turned out to be something as a trademark because of the high quality products and finally other countries followed suit including the US.

As the close connection between England and the US provided by jewish zionist connections, as England was pretty much down and the end of war close, the Jews brought the US into the war to tip the balance. They got rewarded with the Balfour declaration of 1924, which granted the jews the british colony Palastine.

Same happened in WWII and jews were given 1949 the state of Israel.

It is needles to say that the biggest group at the Versailles 'peace' treaty were our favourite race.

If you read the 'The Elders of Zion (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bibl ebelievers.org.au%2Fprzion1.htm%23Table% 2520of%2520Contents)' you see the game plan unfold up to the very day today.

SaxonPagan
Friday, June 4th, 2010, 06:14 PM
This is quite true, Ocko!

A good starting date for WW2 would be March 24th, 1933 ...

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6706/judea.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/judea.jpg/)

Ocko
Friday, June 4th, 2010, 06:27 PM
From The Protocol of the learned Elders of Zion.

Protocol number 7:




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3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war.

4. The principal factor of success in the political is the secrecy of its undertakings: the word should not agree with the deeds of the diplomat.

5. We must compel the governments of the GOYIM to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" - THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.

6. In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan. (The Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905; Japan; Iraq and Afghanistan - Ed.).

OneWolf
Saturday, June 5th, 2010, 03:50 AM
This is quite true, Ocko!

A good starting date for WW2 would be March 24th, 1933 ...

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6706/judea.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/judea.jpg/)

Holy Shit.Thank you for digging that pic up.I have never seen that before but
I have always known that International Jewry is what has caused most of
our wars.Also almost all the signatures on the "Treaty of Versaille" are
Jewish.

EQ Fighter
Saturday, June 5th, 2010, 05:00 AM
Who Really Caused WW2

BANKSTERS!
100% at fault

Today they would be
The International Monitory Fund
Counsel on Foreign Relations
Bilderberg Group

Hitler committed the unforgivable sin.
He Refused central bank Play Money.

Bilderberg 2010: The security lockdown begins (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/jun/03/bilderberg-spain-charlie-skelton)

Deifr
Saturday, June 5th, 2010, 10:39 AM
This is quite true, Ocko!

A good starting date for WW2 would be March 24th, 1933 ...

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6706/judea.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/judea.jpg/)

Bit off topioc here but it is funny to see an article about the steel workers in Middlesbrough getting higher wages back then, when all I have been alive to see in the papers is it's decline.

Roderic
Saturday, October 9th, 2010, 08:37 PM
The German-Jewish Fight Against White Slavery

http://leobaeck.oxfordjournals.org/content/28/1/301.extract


By the Treaty of Versailles on 28 June 1919 and the Treaty of St. Germain on 20 September of the same year, the German people were thoroughly humiliated. The British Prime Minister, Lloyd George, wrote:

'The international bankers swept statesmen, politicians, journalists and jurists all to one side and issued their orders with the imperiousness of absolute monarchs.'


The Daily Mail reported on 10 July 1933:

'The German nation, moreover, was rapidly falling under the control of its alien elements. In the last days of the pre-Hitler regime there were twenty times as many Jewish government officials in Germany as had existed before the war. Israelites of international attachments were insinuating themselves into key positions in the German administrative machine.'


Dr. Manfred Reifer, a well known leader of the Jews of Bukovina, wrote in the Jewish magazine Czernowitzer Allegemeine Zeitung (September 1933):

'Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the preservation of their race, we Jews filled the streets of Germany with our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.'


Resentment and resistance began to build up against the alien horde and in the year before Adolf Hitler came to power Bernard Lecache, President of the World Jewish League, stated:

'Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her.'


The National Socialist Party of Adolf Hitler gained 17,300,000 votes in the election and gained 288 seats in the Reichstag. On 30 January 1933 Hitler was legally appointed Chancellor of the German Reich by President Von Hindenberg. On 24 March 1933 the Reichstag elected by 441 votes to 94 to give full emergency powers to the new Reich Chancellor and the corrupt Weimar Republic ceased to exist.

On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany: Jews of all the world unite", and followed with:

'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen million Jews stand as one body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his business, the banker his bank, the shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his miserable hut in order to combine forces in the holy war against Hitler's people.'


Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist organisation, wrote in the January 1934 issue of Mascha Rjetach:

'For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community at each conference in all our syndicates and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will start a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand Germany's total destruction, collectively and individually. The German nation is a threat to us Jews.'


Emil Ludwig Cohen wrote in his book The New Holy Alliance, Strasburg, 1938:

'Even if Hitler at the last moment would want to avoid war which would destroy him he will, in spite of his wishes, be compelled to wage war.'


Bernard Lechache wrote in The Right to Live (December 1938):

'It is our task to organise the moral and cultural blockade of Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless war.'


The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederlands printed on 13 September 1939:

'The millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North Africa and South, not forgetting Palestine, have decided to carry on the war in Germany to the very end. It is to be a war of extermination.'


The Toronto Star (26 February 1940) printed a declaration of a Rabbi Perlberg, Director of the British section of the Jewish World Congress:

'The Jewish World Congress is in a state of war with Germany for seven years.'


The Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago printed in its issue of 8 October 1940:

'When the National Socialists and their friends cry or whisper that this [the war] is brought about by Jews, they are perfectly right.'


The Paris magazine L'Ami du Peuple wrote about them:

'These people fled from Germany because they attempted to set up a rule of fire and blood and to let loose the horrors of civil war and universal chaos.'


The American Secretary of State, James Forrestal, who later died in mysterious circumstances, wrote in his Forrestal Diaries (Cassel and Co., London 1952):

'Have played golf with Joe Kennedy [US Ambassador in Britain, father of President John Kennedy]. According to him, Chamberlain declared that Zionism and world Jewry have obliged England to enter the war.'


The Jew, Schlomo Asch, in a pep talk to French troops in the line in Le Nouvelles Litteraires (10 February 1940) wrote:

'This is our war and you are fighting it for us. Even if we Jews are not bodily in the trenches we are nevertheless morally with you.'


On 8 October 1942 Sentinel magazine stated unequivocally:

'The Second World War is being fought for the defence and fundamentals of Judaism.'


Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had given an assurance that:

'The British Government would never resort to the deliberate attack on women and children and other civilians for the purpose of mere terrorism.'


However, his successor Winston Churchill appointed as his personal adviser the Jew Professor Lindemann. Lindemann, later Lord Cherwell, suggested the bombing of German cities and that working class areas were legitimate targets, and from then onwards the last vestiges of civilised decency in warfare were abandoned. These bombings began on 10 August 1940 with the bombing of the small open town of Freiburg on the Swiss frontier. Fifty-three civilians were killed, including twenty children playing in the park. It was reported by Mr. Taylor of the American Red Cross in the New York Times of 3 May 1940. This was before the Germans began bombing British cities. Mr. J. M. Speight, CBE, Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry, wrote in his book The Splendid Decision:

'Adolf Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian targets reluctantly after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian targets... It gave Coventry, Birmingham, Sheffield and Southampton the right to look Kiev, Kharkov, Stalingrad and Sebastopol in the face. Our Soviet allies would have been less critical of our inactivity if they had understood what we had done... Hitler would have been willing at my time to stop the slaughter. Hitler was genuinely anxious to reach with Britain an agreement confining the action of aircraft to battle zones.'

http://www.heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=40

Roderic
Saturday, October 9th, 2010, 09:30 PM
"Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite! Boycott of German Goods! Mass Demonstrations!" - These were all headlines in the Daily Express on March 24, 1933.


"The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany. Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily Express, March 24, 1933.


"Each of you, Jew and Gentile alike, who has not already enlisted in this sacred war should do so now and here. It is not sufficient that you should buy no goods made in Germany. You must refuse to deal with any merchant or shopkeeper who sells any German-made goods or who patronises German ships or shipping.... we will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence depends." - Samuel Undermeyer, in a Radio Broadcast on WABC, New York, August 6, 1933. Reported in the New York Times, August 7, 1933.


Joining with Samuel Untermeyer in calling for a war against Germany, Bernard Baruch, at the same time, was promoting preparations for war against Germany. "I emphasised that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit." - Baruch, The Public Years, by Bernard M. Baruch, p.347 (New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1960).

Samuel Untermeyer was a Jewish leader and close friend of presidents Wilson and Roosevelt.

Bernard Baruch was a presidential adviser to Wilson, Roosevelt and Truman.


"This declaration called the war against Germany, which was now determined on, a 'holy war'. This war was to be carried out against Germany to its conclusion, to her destruction" (Diese Erklärung nannte den Krieg gegen Deutschland, der nun beschlossen sei, einen heiligen Krieg. Dieser Krieg müsse gegen Deutschland bis zu dessen Ende, bis zu dessen Vernichtung, geführt werden). - Dr. Franz J. Scheidl, Geschichte der Verfemung Deutschlands.


"War in Europe in 1934 was inevitable." - H. Morgenthau, Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, Hearst Press, September, 1933 (also quoted in "The Palestine Plot" by B. Jenson, p. 11 (printed by John McKinley, 11-15 King Street, Perth, Scotland)).


"For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community, at each conference, in all our syndicates, and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will trigger a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand the complete destruction of Germany. Collectively and individually, the German nation is a threat to us Jews." - Vladimir Jabotinsky (founder of the Jewish terrorist group, Irgun Zvai Leumi) in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934 (also quoted in "Histoire de l'Armée Allemande" by Jacques Benoist-Mechin, Vol. IV, p. 303).


"Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on him, not this year, but soon." - Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934 (also quoted in his book "The New Holy Alliance").


"We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany." - David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934 (quoted in "I Testify Against The Jews" by Robert Edward Edmondson, page 188 and "The Jewish War of Survival" by Arnold Leese, page 52).


"We want to bring about a deep hatred for the Germans, for German soldiers, sailors, and airmen. We must hate until we win." - Lord Beaverbrook, quoted in Niemals! by Heinrich Goitsch.


"There is only one power which really counts. The power of political pressure. We Jews are the most powerful people on earth, because we have this power, and we know how to apply it." - Vladimir Jabotinsky, Jewish Daily Bulletin, July 27, 1935
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"Before the end of the year, an economic bloc of England, Russia, France and the U.S.A will be formed to bring the German and Italian economic systems to their knees." - Paul Dreyfus, "La Vie de Tanger" May 15, 1938.


On the 3rd of June, 1938, the American Hebrew boasted that they had Jews in the foremost positions of influence in Britain, Russia and France, and that these "three sons of Israel will be sending the Nazi dictator to hell." - Joseph Trimble, the American Hebrew.


"Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her. One may be sure of this: We will lead that war!" - Bernard Lecache, the president of the "International League Against Racism and Anti-Semitism," in its newspaper "Droit de Vivre" (Right to Life), 9 November, 1938.


"The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish hegemony throughout the world." - Brigadier General George Van Horn Mosely, The New York Tribune, March 29, 1939.


"I wish to confirm in the most explicit manner, the declaration which I and my colleagues made during the last months, and especially in the last week: that the Jews "stand by Great Britain and will fight on the side of the democracies." Our urgent desire is to give effect to these declarations. We wish to do so in a way entirely consonant with the general scheme of British action, and therefore would place ourselves, in matters big and small, under the co-ordinating direction of His Majesty's Government. The Jewish Agency is ready to enter into immediate arrangements for utilizing Jewish manpower, technical ability, resources, etc." - Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, the London Times, September 5, 1939, and the London Jewish Chronicle, September 8, 1939.


"The millions of Jews who live in America, England and France, North and South Africa, and, not to forget those in Palestine, are determined to bring the war of annihilation against Germany to its final end." - Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederland, September 13, 1939.


"Stop talking about peace conditions! Break Germany in pieces!" - The Daily Herald, No.7426, 9 December, 1939.


"The Jews, taken collectively, view this war as a holy war." - The Daily Herald, No.7450, 1939, quoted in "Reichstagsbrand, Aufklärung einer historischen Legende," by U. Backes, K.H. Janßen, E. Jesse, H. Köhler, H. Mommsen, E Tobias.


"Even if we Jews are not physically at your side in the trenches, we are morally with you. This war is our war and you fight it with us." - Schalom Asch, Les Nouvelles Litterairres, February 10, 1940.


"In losing Germany, Jewry lost a territory from which it exerted power. Therefore it was determined to re-conquer it." - Louis Marschalko, "The World Conquerors : The Real War Criminals."


"The World Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years." - Rabbi M. Perlzweig (head of the British Section of the World Jewish Congress), Toronto Evening Telegram, February 26, 1940.


"The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of Judaism." - Rabbi Felix Mendlesohn, Chicago Sentinel, October 8, 1942.


"We are not denying and are not afraid to confess that this war is our war and that it is waged for the liberation of Jewry... Stronger than all fronts together is our front, that of Jewry. We are not only giving this war our financial support on which the entire war production is based, we are not only providing our full propaganda power which is the moral energy that keeps this war going. The guarantee of victory is predominantly based on weakening the enemy forces, on destroying them in their own country, within the resistance. And we are the Trojan horses in the enemy's fortress. Thousands of Jews living in Europe constitute the principal factor in the destruction of our enemy. There, our front is a fact and the most valuable aid for victory." - Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, in a Speech on December 3, 1942, in New York.


"Played golf with Joe Kennedy (U.S. Ambassador to Britain). He says that Chamberlain stated that America and world Jewry forced England into World War II." - James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy (later Secretary of Defense), Diary, December 27, 1945 entry.


"It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America." - Adolf Hitler, April, 1945.


The joke doing the rounds of the British Union of Fascists at this time, was that the Jewish national anthem was, 'Onward Christian Soldiers.'

Jewish hostility towards Germany quotes (http://www.whale.to/b/jewish_hostility_q.html)

THE JEWS DECLARE WAR ON GERMANY. (http://guardian.150m.com/jews/jews-declare-war.htm)


YouTube - (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAPVm2qiCng&feature=related)