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Wednesday, October 13th, 2004, 07:44 AM
By far the largest of the Berber-speaking groups, the Kabyles, do not refer to themselves as Berbers but as Imazighen or, in the singular, as Amazigh, which means noble or free men. Some traces of the original blue-eyed and blond-haired Berbers survive to contrast the people from this region with the darker- skinned Arabic speakers of the plains


The Berber peoples themselves have been described as "Irish-looking" (Hart, 45). Oddly for a Mediterranean people, they often exhibit light skin, blue, green, grey or hazel eyes, freckles, and blond hair (Hart, 342f). Genetically they are Caucasoid (Cavalli-Sforza, 165).

In Norway and Sweden, "the remains of the ancient stock of African origin are very numerous, even more than in northern Germany" (Sergi, 243f).

The Indo-Europeans who later occupied Scandinavia and Germany did not exterminate the earlier, Berber-speaking inhabitants; they absorbed them. Forde-Johnston notes that Scandinavian Nordics are so similar to the African Berber Nordics, that "the two must share a common origin" (Forde-Johnston, 101). Owen also links Berbers and Germans directly when he states that the pre-Indo-European natives of north Europe, who had their "origin in the Southern Mediterranean area," were "in part the ancestors of the Germanic people"


The blond Riffian Berbers of Morocco, and the blond Kabyles of Algeria, were associated with the Megaliths of North Africa. The blond Libyans of antiquity appeared at about the same time that these monuments were constructed. Similarly, the blond Amorites of ancient Palestine, were linked to the Megaliths which are found there. Equally, the blond Guanches of the Canary Islands, seem to have produced their own stone buildings. However, at the same time, apart from the British Isles, the north did not possess sizeable Mediterranean populations, that could explain the allegedly "southern" origins of the Megaliths.

Nordic and Mediterranean subraces are very similar, from a skeletal point of view, and differ mostly in their pigmentation.


Monday, October 18th, 2004, 05:15 AM

Sunday, October 24th, 2004, 01:16 AM
The earliest recorded evidence of man in Scotland is dated to 8,500 B.C. It is thus that a few thousand years before the birth of Christ, Neolithic men from Spain and France, makers of fire and herders of sheep and cattle had already made their way to Scotland. Some archeologists suggest that these people may have built and used the great chambered cairns which dot the Scottish countryside. It has also been suggested that their descendants eventually merged with the Beaker people (who probably came from northern Europe), and this ethnic union made up the pre-Celtic stock of the northern lands.


Julius Pokorny states that it is "from every point of view impossible" that the Celts were the earliest inhabitants of Ireland, arguing emphatically that the Berbers predated them. He goes on to show that the Megalithic inhabitants of Ireland were long-headed Mediterraneans, similar to those who "still form the principal element in the population of North Africa" (The Pre-Celtic Inhabitants of Ireland, p. 229).


Sunday, October 24th, 2004, 02:37 AM
''The evidence available suggests that the Basques are the descendents of prehistoric man dating from the Lower Palaeolithic. Evolving from the Cro-Magnon man, the Basques developed as a distinct group sometime between 40,000 BC and 7,000 BC.''

''Basques are normally dark-haired, small to medium statue, with broad chests (developed from living in the thin air on mountains). Most Basques have type O blood, with a high incidence of RH negative''

Basques in Britain
When a group of Basques settled in Britain between 9,000 and 5,000 BC, they took with them the worship of Bel, his Holy Day of May 1, and the building of stone circles. Later, the Beaker People arrived and mixed with the Basques, bringing their innovations, such as working silver and gold. When the Greek geographer Pytheas sailed around Britain in 325 BC, he called them the Pretanic Isles because the inhabitants called themselves the Priteni. This evolved into Prytani (Prytaini, Prydaini), and later became Britanni. In 297 AD the Roman, Emmenius, referred to the people of northern Britain as the 'Picti.' Most researchers believe this to refer to the Latin word 'pictus,' meaning 'painted.' Some, however, believe it may be a latinized version of Priteni, after the Norse 'Pettr,' old English 'Peohta,' and old Scots 'Pecht.'

''The Celts originated somewhere in central Europe and expanded their empire in all directions. Around 400 BC, they suddenly appeared and destroyed the Etruscans and then sacked Rome. The Romans noted that the Celts were tall and muscular, with hair they bleached blonde, and often went naked into battle. When the Romans protested the Celts armed incursion into the area, the Celts told the Romans that anything they could take by force of arms was rightfully theirs.''


Sunday, October 24th, 2004, 04:31 PM
But a direct genetic proof for a Central-, Northern European and Berber connection is rather thin to non-existent.

Though I always thought about a connection of the different Cromagnid Europid types, I think they must not be genetically correlated and just developed similar features.

Any proofs for such claims like Forde-Johnston made?