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The Blond Beast
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 09:46 PM
Nations might as well start claiming entire tectonic plates as their own...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1318107,00.html

Denmark hopes to find evidence that the Danish territory of Greenland is connected to a ridge beneath the floating ice of the Arctic Ocean, thus giving Denmark claim to the north pole - and whatever riches in oil and gas may lie beneath it.

"Maybe there is a chance that the north pole could become Danish," Helge Sander, the science and technology minister, said yesterday. "We must be able to argue that it is a natural extension [of Greenland]", added Trine Dahl-Jensen of the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland.

Greenland, the world's biggest island, is a semi-independent Danish territory whose northern tip is 500 miles south of the pole.

Denmark has joined Canada and Russia in charting the Arctic sea bed in an effort to claim ownership of the expanse.

The question Danish scientists must resolve is where Greenland's continental shelf ends and the ocean bed begins. Beneath the pole, a 1,250-mile underwater ridge runs between Greenland and Siberia; measurements would have to prove that the Greenland shelf is attached to the Lomonosov ridge.

Another factor is a 1986 UN convention that allows countries an economic zone extending 230 miles from their shores. Only countries that have ratified the convention can claim zones; Norway, Russia and Canada have signed, the United States has not.

Denmark's parliament is due to ratify it before the end of the year, though an exact date had not been set, Mr Sander said.

Since spring, Danish scientists have used sonar, seismographs and GPS data to survey the ridge and have drilled in search of
resources.

Canada and Russia, which are also likely to claim ownership of the ridge, are making similar investigations.

green nationalist
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 10:16 PM
How do the Danes own this country anyway? Can anyone provide me with some history?

Oskorei
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 11:02 PM
How do the Danes own this country anyway? Can anyone provide me with some history?
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Greenland%2FHistory

green nationalist
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 11:10 PM
Thats a good link, interesting stuff

There is reference in that link to the "Thule" people, it says they originated in Siberia, I was under the impression that the thule people were Aryan.

Oskorei
Saturday, October 2nd, 2004, 11:28 PM
Thats a good link, interesting stuff

There is reference in that link to the "Thule" people, it says they originated in Siberia, I was under the impression that the thule people were Aryan.
I suspect that since the Siberian/Greenlandic "Thule" culture existed so long ago, and didnt leave any written traces, the historians/archeologists just had to choose a name for them. And since Thule means "north" it was a good choice, but they might easily have chosen any other name.

So if I am not very wrong, these are two completely different Thules.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Sunday, October 3rd, 2004, 05:31 AM
The North Pole is an iceberg. Its position changes daily. If Denmark can claim an iceberg, could Denmark claim the water melting of "its" iceberg? If so, Denmark could claim the Artic ocean and then the ocean itself. If Denmark can make this claim stick, then we all should watch out as some other country, like Isreal, will claim the air and charge the rest of us to breath.