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Northern Paladin
Monday, September 20th, 2004, 04:41 PM
Which country is the least Racist Nordish Country and which is the most?

Northern Paladin
Monday, September 20th, 2004, 04:49 PM
Which Country is the least Racist Country in Europe?
Which is the most?

Please explain your choices.

For the least Racist country in my opinion is Sweden. Since they are so "unracist" that they wouldn't using the word immigrant is considered offensive so they use the term "new Swede" to describe foreigners.

As for the most racist country I haven't got much of a clue. But I'll say Germany as I am aware they still have quite a few skin heads and neo-Nazis there.

She-Wolf
Monday, September 20th, 2004, 08:09 PM
I didn't know that in Sweden the word "immigrant" is regarded as offensive! :-O how did they work that one out? It's an official term. A Swede I used to know would always tell me that everyone is so liberal over there it was sickening.

Stríbog
Monday, September 20th, 2004, 09:54 PM
Sweden and England are the least racist.
From what I have heard, Russia and Serbia are the most racist. ;)

Gareth
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 01:15 AM
As for the most racist country I haven't got much of a clue. But I'll say Germany as I am aware they still have quite a few skin heads and neo-Nazis there. They are outnumbered by "politically correct" people (peaceful, but ignorant conformists, disposed to bigotry as everybody else) which you will find nowhere as many as in Germany, similar Scandinavia maybe.

Sweden and England are the least racist.My experience and what I heard is, that in England live very rude people.

The most racist people may live in France, namely the North Africans and further folks that gang rape white women for a hobby, burn synagogues and I suppose they are criminal too.

Vojvoda
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 01:22 AM
From what I have heard, Russia and Serbia are the most racist. ;)
You better believe it! :D

Tuor
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 03:48 AM
I would have to agree the least is Sweden, on the other end of the spectrum i would have to say Russia, Serbia and perhpas Switzerland in the wake of a more conservative atmosphere.

Julius
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 03:53 AM
In Sweden `immigrant' is offensive in that it has the same negative implication as `criminal'. "New Swedes"? The only people who use that word are politicians, though most use the word immigrants. On the streets they are called `svartskallar' which literally means `muds'.

Which European country is the most segregated? Which is the biggest producer of "racist" music? Sweden. Tell me one other White country where a Nationalist music group, despite being labelled Nazi, has topped the national music chart.

If we calculate the relationship between the size of a European nation's movement and its total population, we'll see that there is little difference between European nations.

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 04:01 AM
In Sweden `immigrant' is offensive in that it has the same negative implication as `criminal'. "New Swedes"? The only people who use that word are politicians, though most use the word immigrants. On the streets they are called `svartskallar' which literally means `muds'.

Which European country is the most segregated? Which is the biggest producer of "racist" music? Sweden. Tell me one other White country where a Nationalist music group, despite being labelled Nazi, has topped the national music chart.

If we calculate the relationship between the size of a European nation's movement and its total population, we'll see that there is little difference between European nations.

So if Sweden is so Racist. Why are their borders still wide open? (:o

Awar
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 04:14 AM
Eastern Europe and Southern Europe are by far the most dangerous places for non-whites.

I think the most racist are Russians.

In Serbia, non-whites are usually just ignored, but sometimes it turns out more violent.
You don't need skinheads. A year or so ago, one Negro came to my hometown. He was probably the only Negro in the last decade to come here.
Some guys saw him chat with some girls, and they rather violently asked him to leave.

The good thing is that here, it's all solved on a family level. People are grown to only care for their own kind. No political correctness.

Awar
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 04:18 AM
The most extreme would be Montenegrins, some who wouldn't give a daughter to a member of an opposing clan, let alone another ethnicity. :)

Stríbog
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 04:26 AM
The good thing is that here, it's all solved on a family level. People are grown to only care for their own kind. No political correctness.

Typical Meds. Everything is dealt with by "the family" just like in the Godfather. :P

Awar
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 04:28 AM
:lol Not exactly. Montenegrins are like Sicillians, Serbs are more on the Slavic side.

Julius
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 07:24 AM
So if Sweden is so Racist. Why are their borders still wide open? (:o The borders of Sweden's aren't any more open than those of other European countries. And do you suggest there are actually European governments that represent their people and racial preservationism?

As we know, opinion poll after opinion poll show that the majority of Europeans, including Swedes, are against immigration. Naturally, the present governments are not equal to the people.

Immigrant tolerance can be illustrated by how integrated the immigrants are in society, by for example how many of the foreigners compared to the host population manage to become employed.

Here's some statistics from the OECD. The higher positive difference, the less good at accepting immigrants. A negative number means that immigrants have a higher employment rate than the host population.


Participation rate of male nationals and foreigners

Difference Nationals Foreigners Nation

-14.2 74.8 89.0 Italy
-10.4 78.9 89.3 Greece
-8.2 80.4 88.6 Czech Republic
-6.2 73.4 79.6 United States
-6.6 77.2 83.8 Spain
-5.1 67.9 73.0 Hungary
-5.6 80.5 86.1 Austria
-2.4 75.5 77.9 Luxembourg
-2.9 76.6 79.5 Slovak Republic
-1.3 79.8 81.1 Finland
-0.8 75.6 76.4 France
1.1 74.1 73.0 Belgium
1.5 86.0 84.5 Norway
2.2 80.1 77.9 Germany
2.4 83.7 81.3 Portugal
3.4 93.0 89.6 Switzerland
5.0 81.1 76.1 Ireland
5.4 73.8 68.4 Canada
8.0 75.3 67.3 Australia
8.7 84.9 76.2 United Kingdom
12.4 85.6 73.2 Denmark
15.4 80.5 65.1 Sweden
17.6 84.8 67.2 Netherlands

Source: Trends in International Immigration, OECD, 2001. Figure "Participation rate and unemployment rate of nationals and foreigners by sex in selected OECD countries, 1999-2000 average".

By your logic, this suggests that of these countries, Swedes are second best at rejecting immigrants.

Nordgau
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 07:46 AM
I think Loki has attached at the Phora, a few downbreaks before, an interesting statistic graphic about the degree of "racism" in European countries. Have you still got it? :icon_smil

Gesta Bellica
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 08:26 AM
The borders of Sweden's aren't any more open than those of other European countries. And do you suggest there are actually European governments that represent their people and racial preservationism?

As we know, opinion poll after opinion poll show that the majority of Europeans, including Swedes, are against immigration. Naturally, the present governments are not equal to the people.

Immigrant tolerance can be illustrated by how integrated the immigrants are in society, by for example how many of the foreigners compared to the host population manage to become employed.

Here's some statistics from the OECD. The higher positive difference, the less good at accepting immigrants. A negative number means that immigrants have a higher employment rate than the host population.


Participation rate of male nationals and foreigners

Difference Nationals Foreigners Nation

-14.2 74.8 89.0 Italy
-10.4 78.9 89.3 Greece
-8.2 80.4 88.6 Czech Republic
-6.2 73.4 79.6 United States
-6.6 77.2 83.8 Spain
-5.1 67.9 73.0 Hungary
-5.6 80.5 86.1 Austria
-2.4 75.5 77.9 Luxembourg
-2.9 76.6 79.5 Slovak Republic
-1.3 79.8 81.1 Finland
-0.8 75.6 76.4 France
1.1 74.1 73.0 Belgium
1.5 86.0 84.5 Norway
2.2 80.1 77.9 Germany
2.4 83.7 81.3 Portugal
3.4 93.0 89.6 Switzerland
5.0 81.1 76.1 Ireland
5.4 73.8 68.4 Canada
8.0 75.3 67.3 Australia
8.7 84.9 76.2 United Kingdom
12.4 85.6 73.2 Denmark
15.4 80.5 65.1 Sweden
17.6 84.8 67.2 Netherlands

Source: Trends in International Immigration, OECD, 2001. Figure "Participation rate and unemployment rate of nationals and foreigners by sex in selected OECD countries, 1999-2000 average".

By your logic, this suggests that of these countries, Swedes are second best at rejecting immigrants.

I find quite strange that the lowest countries are Sweden, UK and Netherlands, places quite often pointed out as example of integration and with a good deal of mixed race couples and offspring.
the Italian Data are quite bizarre, to say the least, many immigrants don't have a regular job here..

I think italian men are one of the most racist in Europe, sadly girls are on the same level than every other European country.
i don't know about Serbian but i know for sure that Russian girls on holidays are not so picky too, i can't think of an ethincitiy where girls have some common awareness on a racial level.

goidelicwarrior
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 10:55 AM
Typical Meds. Everything is dealt with by "the family" just like in the Godfather. :P true.. but i think I prefer thatto the " hippie collective " called " USA... :D


In Sweden `immigrant' is offensive in that it has the same negative implication as `criminal'. "New Swedes"? The only people who use that word are politicians, though most use the word immigrants. On the streets they are called `svartskallar' which literally means `muds'.
arent that term you refer to very broad that Swedes may apply as they see fit ? muds really are non caucasians or mixtured thereof ? ;)

Pedro
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 10:58 AM
The most racists are the african blacks and the morrocans.

Chinese are very racists, too, but only against the african people not against the europeans.

The least racist countrys are the european,.

But europa hat many people with autoracism and self hate, they are repress racists.

Juho
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 11:06 AM
Have to say that Finland is racist country, maybe our politicians aren't racist, but normal people here are:D :) ;)

Ederico
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 11:29 AM
Malta is very racist compared to others, sometimes Maltese are even intolerant to other Europeans. However Malta is suffering the Liberal Leftist Indoctrination spawning from Western Europe.

Mistress Klaus
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 12:00 PM
I read an article recently that Australia was viewed by alot of oversea's countries as being 'too racist' and was preventing many tourists & backpackers from visting. :P ..
Many (old stock) white Australian's call ANYONE with a foreign accent (be it the blondest Dutchman or Swede) or a person who does not look completely Aryan a 'wog'. The British are even looked down on (pommie bastards) :| Ridiculous.

Now the trend is to love every race & creed & welcome them with open arms... ;( ....Stupid country...They are yet to figure out the meaning of a happy balance. From one extreme to another. (:o :|

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 07:11 PM
The borders of Sweden's aren't any more open than those of other European countries. And do you suggest there are actually European governments that represent their people and racial preservationism?

As we know, opinion poll after opinion poll show that the majority of Europeans, including Swedes, are against immigration. Naturally, the present governments are not equal to the people.

Immigrant tolerance can be illustrated by how integrated the immigrants are in society, by for example how many of the foreigners compared to the host population manage to become employed.

Here's some statistics from the OECD. The higher positive difference, the less good at accepting immigrants. A negative number means that immigrants have a higher employment rate than the host population.


Participation rate of male nationals and foreigners

Difference Nationals Foreigners Nation

-14.2 74.8 89.0 Italy
-10.4 78.9 89.3 Greece
-8.2 80.4 88.6 Czech Republic
-6.2 73.4 79.6 United States
-6.6 77.2 83.8 Spain
-5.1 67.9 73.0 Hungary
-5.6 80.5 86.1 Austria
-2.4 75.5 77.9 Luxembourg
-2.9 76.6 79.5 Slovak Republic
-1.3 79.8 81.1 Finland
-0.8 75.6 76.4 France
1.1 74.1 73.0 Belgium
1.5 86.0 84.5 Norway
2.2 80.1 77.9 Germany
2.4 83.7 81.3 Portugal
3.4 93.0 89.6 Switzerland
5.0 81.1 76.1 Ireland
5.4 73.8 68.4 Canada
8.0 75.3 67.3 Australia
8.7 84.9 76.2 United Kingdom
12.4 85.6 73.2 Denmark
15.4 80.5 65.1 Sweden
17.6 84.8 67.2 Netherlands

Source: Trends in International Immigration, OECD, 2001. Figure "Participation rate and unemployment rate of nationals and foreigners by sex in selected OECD countries, 1999-2000 average".

By your logic, this suggests that of these countries, Swedes are second best at rejecting immigrants.

That can be explained by the fact they are refugees and on Social welfare or they simply like the criminal life better. Sweden is one of the least Racist countries in Europe. I've been there I have relatives there I know most Swedes aren't Racists.

Northern Paladin
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 07:16 PM
I think Loki has attached at the Phora, a few downbreaks before, an interesting statistic graphic about the degree of "racism" in European countries. Have you still got it? :icon_smil

Nein. Do you by any chance still have it?

Awar
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 07:18 PM
i don't know about Serbian but i know for sure that Russian girls on holidays are not so picky too, i can't think of an ethincitiy where girls have some common awareness on a racial level.

I think Serbian girls on general are much pickier than the average European.
I think the same goes for Greek girls too.
Of course, if they are poisoned by SEX&CITY style of bullshit propaganda, they too become the same type of zombies.

However, I agree that women comprehend racial preservation completely different. They either aren't interested in it ( not any more than what they received as education from their family ), or they are, but on a double-standard basis. :( ( the famous what-he-doesn't-know-can't-hurt-him basis :P )

Loki
Tuesday, September 21st, 2004, 07:19 PM
I think Loki has attached at the Phora, a few downbreaks before, an interesting statistic graphic about the degree of "racism" in European countries. Have you still got it? :icon_smil
I will have to check it out....

Hail_Me
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 12:53 AM
Maltese people are very racist compared to most Europeans, even though alot of girls seem to have some sick fetish for Black guys, but I guess that hold's true for alot of European countries.

Julius
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 12:59 AM
That can be explained by the fact they are refugees and on Social welfare or they simply like the criminal life better. Sweden is one of the least Racist countries in Europe. Yeah, ignore the facts and keep listening to the voices in your head.

Northern Paladin
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 01:07 AM
Yeah, ignore the facts and keep listening to the voices in your head.

This chart is far from proving your point. How do these charts reflect whether or not the average Swede is Racist or not?

Julius
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 01:13 AM
This chart is far from proving your point. Perhaps it's time for you to start proving your point then.

In your world, I bet not even the attacks on refugee shelters ever happened.

Northern Paladin
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 01:31 AM
Perhaps it's time for you to start proving your point then.

In your world, I bet not even the attacks on refugee shelters ever happened.

Ok Swedes are Racist. The streets of Stockholm are full of skin heads and neo-nazis. Most Swedes don't like immigrants. That's why they marry them in such numbers. :D

That's why you see so many Swarthy men with blonde women on the streets and in commercials. My Sweden is a very Racist country.

Julius
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 02:28 AM
Ok Swedes are Racist. The streets of Stockholm are full of skin heads and neo-nazis. As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

The street violence were far worse and organised in Sweden than it is now in for example Eastern Europe. Fortunately we have managed to get rid of the decadent skinhead subculture and have a better strategy than the short-term goals of the military operations and bank robbings in the 1990s.

Anyway, if you believe Nationalist struggle is about random violence, like beating up homeless people, you better keep to your Net-Nazism.

Furthermore, I believe the Swedish Neo-Nazis (sic!) in Nationalsocialistisk Front (http://www.nsfront.info) are more serious than their counterparts in most other European countries.


Most Swedes don't like immigrants. That's why they marry them in such numbers. Once again a pure lie with no facts backing it up. Of course, the surnames in birth and marriage statistics tell otherwise. But how would you know, earlier in this thread you falsely informed us that we only call immigrants "New Swedes".

QuietWind
Wednesday, September 22nd, 2004, 02:43 AM
Okay, enough of the women bashing. I forget how many people posted that women seem unconcerned and are race mixers. I am not in Europe and cannot speak for the women there; however, in America it is true as well. I cannot tell you how many blonde girls I have seen arm in arm with negroes. What can you expect when these girls are raised seeing actresses such as Julia Stiles on the big screen with a negro? In America, people are so concerned with "political correctness." Even some job applications no longer have an option for "white." We have become "Other." There is no reason to bash only women, though, when men are just as bad. Men here have this attitude that as long as they don't get her pregnant or marry her then it is okay. Some even go as far as to accept anyone, regardless of race, as long as that person is fighting for our preservation. There are many decent women out there who are concerned with the preservation of our people and wouldn't think of being with another race. It is unfair to lump all women together as being unconcerned and race mixers.

FadeTheButcher
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 04:05 AM
Least Racist: Sweden
Most Racist: Britain

Yeah. It shocked me too.


Four out of 10 whites do not want black neighbour, poll shows

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1126141,00.html?79%3A+Uk+news+%2D +guardian

Vikram Dodd
Monday January 19, 2004
The Guardian

Four out of 10 white people do not want an Asian or black Briton as their neighbour, according to a survey published this week.
The opinion poll found rocketing concern about immigration and asylum combined with ignorance about basic facts about the issue and growing resentment.

The Mori survey for Prospect magazine found that 39% of those asked would prefer to live in an area only with people from the same ethnic background. Forty-one per cent of whites and 26% of ethnic minority people surveyed wanted the races to live separately. Over half of all ethnic groups wanted to live in diverse areas.

The poll found older people were most in favour of living apart from other races. Only 40% of people over 55 disagreed with the idea, compared with 64% of 16- to 34-year-olds.

Bobby Duffy, research director at Mori, said: "We have overestimated the progress we have made in race and immigration issues. I'm surprised about such a high finding as people are usually reticent because they worry about being judged by the interviewer, so this finding is worrying."

The poll shows that the issue of race and immigration has risen up the list of people's concerns, and is now the third most important, ahead of crime, defence and the economy. The issue is ranked the most important by 29%, behind education on 33% and the NHS on 41%. Ten years ago the figure was below 10%.

Mori said people had a "inflated view of the scale of the issue", with people overestimating the numbers of first generation immigrants by four times the actual amount. Britons think that first generation immigrants comprise 23% of the population, while the real figure is 6%.

"It's a monumental shift in people's concerns," Mr Duffy said. "We've seen economic concerns decline and that seems set to continue, and a rise in concern about public services. The issue of race and immigration threatens to dwarf others."

Almost one in five people believe immigrants and asylum seekers are responsible for a loss of community spirit, though 40% believe people working longer hours is to blame, with more than a third saying that people watching television or using the internet is the reason for a drop in community cohesion.

The survey also exposes simmering resentments felt by a large section of those surveyed, with nearly half believing that other people are unfairly getting priority over them in public services and welfare payments. Of the 45% who believe the welfare state treats them as second class citizens, 39% blame asylum seekers and new immigrants.

Surveys 10 years ago showed anxiety about "freeloading" by lone parents and the unemployed, but now asylum seekers are the focus of resentment. Among lower socio-economic classes the feeling they are losing out rises above 50%.

One in five people believes immigrants should get less welfare provisions than British citizens, though there is a marked class difference. Just 12% of the top two socio-economic groups support less welfare for immigrants compared to 29% of the lowest two socio-economic groups. This is the group most likely to need welfare and most likely to read rightwing newspapers which have been accused of running a scaremongering campaign against asylum seekers and new immigrants.

The results echo the findings of a poll last year by Mori for the commission for racial equality: one-third of white respondents said they did not mix with ethnic minority people at work, and nearly two-thirds did not meet socially.

Nearly half those polled, 47%, thought racial prejudice had increased in 10 years, compared with 29% who believed it had lessened.

· Mori interviewed 1,000 people by telephone across Britain in November 2003

Rachel
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 04:11 AM
Britain is also more racially integrated.

Arkona
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 08:30 AM
Least Racist: Sweden
Most Racist: Britain

Yeah. It shocked me too.


Four out of 10 whites do not want black neighbour, poll shows


Pretty weak.



http://www.regnum.ru/allnews/306497.html

42% of Russians believe it's necessary to limit the Jewish influence in the government, politics, business, legal issues, system of education and show-business, 23% did not give any reply and 28% agreed that it'd be nice to restore the Jewish Pale (thus 70% openly express anti-Jewish feelings, while many of whose who didn't give any reply aren't great fans of Jews I bet).

More than 60% of Russians support such measures (a new Pale) against natives of Caucasus (doesn't mena that other 40% like Chechens).

50% are ready to vote to limit rights of residence for Asians (doesn't mean that other 50% are in favor of Asian immigration).

50% of Russians are confident that "national minorities have too much influence in the country".

25% of respondents said that it is necessary to limit rights of residents for all ethnicities but Russians (even, for example, Ukrainians).

In Moscow situation is much more "dangerous" according to sociologists.

2/3 of Moscovites are hostile to (im)migrants.
51% of Moscovites mention in everyday communications that "there are too many (im)migrants in Moscow"
48% of Moscovites freely talk about Caucasian mafia
42% - talk about ethnoc crime gangs
35% - talk about "ethnic" Moscow districts (ghettos)
16% belive that there will be anti-Caucasian pogroms in Russia soon

Nordhammer
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 11:49 AM
Based on the longest racist history I'd have to go with America. :)

Louky
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 01:01 PM
"Mori said people had a "inflated view of the scale of the issue", with people overestimating the numbers of first generation immigrants by four times the actual amount. Britons think that first generation immigrants comprise 23% of the population, while the real figure is 6%."

Sadly, the public perception of the percentage of first generation immigrants is probably closer to the real situation than the official estimate. Don't want to cause a panic until it's too late for native Britons to save themselves.

The US, though not a Nordish nation in absolute numbers, is by far the most racially aware nation since we've experienced the social problems that come with non-Whites, especially Blacks and Mestizos. We know how they are.

Despite their dislike of Americans, Europeans seem to want to be like the US -- even so far as to create their very own race problem out of whole cloth.

Glenlivet
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 03:29 PM
Greeks and Belgians are the most racist in the EU: poll


21 March 2001
VIENNA, March 21 (AFP) - Greeks and Belgians are the most racially intolerant people in the EU, the Union's racism watchdog said Wednesday.

Scandinavians meanwhile come out as the most easy-going and accepting Europeans when it comes to minorities, according to the European Monitoring Centre on Racism and Xenophobia (EUMC).

Overall the poll commissioned by the Vienna-based EUMC showed attitudes to minorities were improving, the group said, although a total of 14 percent of nationals in the 15-member bloc were still deemed intolerant.

In a league table of the EU's 15 countries, 27 percent of Greeks were rated as intolerant, followed by 25 percent of Belgians, 20 percent of Danes and 15 percent of Britons.

At the other end of the scale 33 percent of Swedes and Danes, 32 percent of Finns and 31 percent of Dutch people were "actively tolerant."

The EUMC team defined intolerance as the display of "strongly negative attitudes towards minority groups" when questioned on issues like foreigners in schools, in the workforce, and immigration generally.

"A small, but relevant minority of Europeans feel personally disturbed by the existence of minority and migrant groups," said EUMC head Beate Winkler.

"They fear minorities are threatening social peace and welfare. People are worried about unemployment, a loss of social welfare," she added.

The survey found that the attitude of the majority, or 64 percent of the 16,000 people asked, was deemed "ambivalent" or "passively tolerant".

And with many EU citizens not actively welcoming foreigners, Winkler warned that the poll's results did not allow room for complacency.

Members of the ambivalent crowd, the report states, are the ones who are particularly susceptible to the attitudes of politicians on migration, asylum and integration.

"This group must be considered as the group which reacts most to political leadership," Winkler said, impressing upon leaders the need to respond rationally to immigration issues at a time when the subject can stir up intense emotion.


http://www.eubusiness.com/imported/2001/03/41752

Glenlivet
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 03:35 PM
Britain: not the most racist country in Europe

The details of a new report into racism disprove the
idea that the UK has the worst record for treating
asylum seekers and refugees, writes the
Guardian's home affairs correspondent, Alan Travis.

Tuesday April 3, 2001

The idea that Britain is the most racist country in Europe when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers and refugees is not only wide of the mark but also a gross misrepresentation of the report published today which has seemingly given further credence to the claim.

The Council of Europe's commission on racism and intolerance is right to highlight the persistent and acute problems in the treatment and media image of asylum seekers. This was especially true as its researchers based their findings on a visit in May 2000, immediately after the most virulent local election campaign that Britain had seen for nearly 20 years.

But it is completely wrong to claim that the report by the 43-nation human rights organisation in some way brands Britain as the "most racist country in Europe". In fact the commission published five separate reports yesterday on five different countries, including Austria, Macedonia and Albania.

The commission reserved its harshest words for Austria, where it says that existing anti-racism laws fail to protect black people, the use of racist propaganda in politics is widespread and the police attitudes are especially worrying.

Britain's record cannot possibly be compared with those of Macedonia and Albania, both of which have been the scene of violent campaigns against different minority ethnic groups, and which regularly lead to asylum seekers fleeing to the rest of Europe, including the UK.

The other country the commission looked at is Denmark, which is perhaps more comparable to Britain. But even in this country the Strasbourg researchers said that the prevailing political culture was of "deep concern", probably even more so than Britain.

This week's report did not cover France and Germany but, by nearly every measure, Britain could not be said to be more racist than either country. Indeed, its most trenchant criticisms of the treatment of asylum seekers in Britain probably apply equally to Germany, as the British system is modelled on what happens in Germany.

The reasons for deep concern about the treatment of asylum seekers in Britain include fears about their detention and the powers of immigration officers. However, on a European scale Britain is by no means the worst country.

In fact, the Strasbourg report goes on to praise Britain for the progress it has made in the past two years in fighting institutional racism and placing a positive duty on public bodies to promote racial equality in the wake of the murder of black teenager, Stephen Lawrence.

Britain is not, despite what you may have heard, the most racist country in Europe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Refugees_in_Britain/Story/0,2763,467903,00.html

Glenlivet
Thursday, September 23rd, 2004, 04:15 PM
I don't think, except for a few in New Labour, that most Europeans want a Europe like US. If it only serves the interests of the lobby groups, the US adminstration will do almost anything. Maybe based on other reasons than the real ones the white worker class masses of USA unconsciously support the steps taken by their politicians that in Europe, except maybe for some modern British Labourites and a few new EU countries in Eastern Europe, are controversial and seen as highly susceptible and essentially dishonest. It's not possible to just compare the New World with the old one without taking history into account. America is a federation, and not a nation state. The internationalist view is more American than European (at least continental).

Australia and Canada are largely made up of people from the British Isles and the rest are Europids from Europe and the Middle East. It was quite recently in Australian history that East Asians began emigrating to Australia. Australia didn't allow non-white immigrants when it had the White Australia Policy. Modern Australians have to deal with an establishment that planned an "Asian destiny". They don't have a significant number of sub-Saharan Africans in Australia. South Africa is the worst example of the New World countries with mostly whites and blacks, and some that don't fit either category. But they have at least more blacks than USA. Do you think that Australia and Canada, and not to forget New Zealand, where the social democratic Labour party dominate political life, are safer and have probably less ethnic problems, or are USA and South Africa? I used to think why USA doesn't have a welfare system like in most of Western Europe or even like Canada. There are many more non-Hispanic whites than whites in USA who live in poverty. Europeans may see the poor as their own but that will change when more and more believe that there are those who just use the system. A social welfare system will not work when large groups will try to trick it.

It's not only about the French government and the people, the rest of Europe is actually about the same in its stance towards USA. It's more that they don't have the power to speak up than disagreeing. USA wanted to push in Turkey in the EU from the Danish EU presidency in year 200.
Turkey entry 'would destroy EU': http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2420697.stm

I think that Austria and the Czech Rep. are the most racist European countries. Both are what you would call Nordish nations. The French are probably more culturally xenophobic rather than racist.

There's a great article from the magazine Prospect by David Goodhart on social problems and race. I can only agree that the welfare system goes around as long as the society is relatively homogenous and that the native worker class population are respected and not discriminated against. He goes more towards a politically correct stance in the second part of the article where he reach a conclusion. It's still a moderately enough and thought provoking article that I pass on friends and family who have not yet woken up. It's intelligently written and not full of slurs like many other similar articles. That is the beauty if it, many will probably take in a lot of it when the arguments are based on a real presentation of the facts. Britain has even "health tourists" who come just to seek free NHS treatment.

http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=8057#post8057

"It was the Conservative politician David Willetts who drew my attention to the "progressive dilemma". Speaking at a roundtable on welfare reform, he said: "The basis on which you can extract large sums of money in tax and pay it out in benefits is that most people think the recipients are people like themselves, facing difficulties that they themselves could face. If values become more diverse, if lifestyles become more differentiated, then it becomes more difficult to sustain the legitimacy of a universal risk-pooling welfare state. People ask: 'Why should I pay for them when they are doing things that I wouldn't do?' This is America versus Sweden. You can have a Swedish welfare state provided that you are a homogeneous society with intensely shared values. In the United States you have a very diverse, individualistic society where people feel fewer obligations to fellow citizens. Progressives want diversity, but they thereby undermine part of the moral consensus on which a large welfare state rests.""

The Swedish welfare system (or as it was historically called in Sweden, Folkhemmet) worked quite well for Sweden up to the 1970's, when the country was looked up to around the world, and during that period immigrants were still seen as a novelty and not a burden who are on a free ride. As you can read in the Goodhart's article Denmark took a path that first and foremost respect the indigenous people of the country. Folkhemmet in Sweden was actually created at a time when anthropology studies were a hot topic and the Social Democrats of Sweden gave their support for it. After an initiative by the state the first racial institute of its kind in the world were created. It was called Rasbiologiska Institutet (Statens institut för rasbiologi) with its chief Herman Lunborg in Uppsala University (located in a for Swedish standards medium-sized city north of the capital Stockholm).

Like I've mentioned previously though, it's in mainly the Lutheran Protestant and numerically more Nordid countries of Europe where a significant percentage of the population actively suppport immigratation from racially and culturally alien stock, even if it comes from economic migrants, asylum seekers who don't give anything in return. Now, it's a different issue that most immigrants in these northern countries are from traditional cultures and they are bound to have culture clashes with the societies that respect women rights to a greater degree, and have laws that don't let parents punish their children and so forth. It's not only about not feeling welcome, they themselves, not only racially but also very much the culturally alien immigrants, won't feel very comfortable.






Sadly, the public perception of the percentage of first generation immigrants is probably closer to the real situation than the official estimate. Don't want to cause a panic until it's too late for native Britons to save themselves.

The US, though not a Nordish nation in absolute numbers, is by far the most racially aware nation since we've experienced the social problems that come with non-Whites, especially Blacks and Mestizos. We know how they are.

Despite their dislike of Americans, Europeans seem to want to be like the US -- even so far as to create their very own race problem out of whole cloth.

Renegade
Friday, September 24th, 2004, 08:00 PM
I didn't know that in Sweden the word "immigrant" is regarded as offensive! :-O how did they work that one out? It's an official term. A Swede I used to know would always tell me that everyone is so liberal over there it was sickening.

I don't like the word "immigrant" either. I prefer words like

Immigrant Invader
Criminal Tresspasser
Occupation Force
Third World Savage

Especially when talking about a beautiful WHITE nation like Sweden!!

Siegmund
Friday, September 24th, 2004, 09:32 PM
From what I've read the Baltic states, especially Latvia, would have to be classified among the most racist countries in Europe. When given the opportunity during WWII they enthusiastically sought to purge themselves of Jews, and fought bravely for the Reich. Today there is a resurgence of admiration for the many who volunteered for service in the Waffen-SS.

Attached is a link (http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/baltic_nazis/latvia/index.htm) I have found to be of considerable interest. Is it what it purports to be, an anti-NS summary of current neo-NS events in the Baltic region? Or is it really a pro-NS summary in disguise, cloaked as its opposite on account of the website's Russian location and undoubted "moderation" by Russians/Jews?

Vestmannr
Friday, September 24th, 2004, 09:38 PM
Greece is without a doubt the most racist country in Europe. I don't know another European ethnicity that is so extremely insular and suspicious of Barbarians (non-Greeks.) Look at it from majority religions: if you are 'foreign' person of another religion, and join the religion of another nation - do they accept? Sure. Roman Catholics, Russian Orthodox, Serbian Orthodox, Lutheran, Anglican, etc. But: try to join the Greek Orthodox! They are the only group I know that reject folk outright and tell them to 'Go to the Roman Catholics/Russian Orthodox!' because they are non-Greek. ;)

Least racist European country? We're talking majority culture here, so I'd have to go with France. Most French seem to care less, and all the more fun if they can have an African or Asian girl on the side.

oskar
Monday, April 17th, 2006, 12:56 AM
Most racist: Croatia

Why? When travelling through the Dalmatian coast together with a black-skinned friend a couple of summers ago we got a pretty unfriendly reception in quite a lot of places, which never happened when I moved around by myself. Lots of Croats still seem to believe that there exists a distinct "Croatian race" and that it is, of course, superior to all other slavic races. Lots of Croats look back with pride on the WWII Croat fascist Ustashe state. While the Serbs kicked out Milosevic the Croats never turned out their nationalist leader Tudjman. Finally, I also remember a Eurovision song contest a while back when the Croatian team were singing nationalist (or so the TV presenter said) songs when they scored high votes.

Least racist: Sweden

Why? I think Swedes aren't so hung up about skin color as they are about culture and language. As long as you speak proper (ie no accent) Swedish you're pretty much accepted as a Swede by most people, no matter if you happen to be of African or Asian heritage.

Ederico
Monday, April 17th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Malta is very racist compared to others, sometimes Maltese are even intolerant to other Europeans. However Malta is suffering the Liberal Leftist Indoctrination spawning from Western Europe.

I believe this statement ought to be requalified as it is prone to misunderstanding. Writing months back, I intended "racism" to mean reaction to foreigners. Obviously, racists exist in Malta as anywhere else, but rather than racist the Maltese are very insular, and their social conditions accentuate such a feature due to an excessive population level leading to a high population density due to limited territory. The quasi-mirage of geographical isolation due to our island nature, results in an isolationist nature.

The fact that Malta acquired independence in our parents' lifetime (I'm 24) also accentuates such a characteristic. Moreover, while the Maltese are generally tolerant and welcoming, when under threat they become quite the opposite and no one can deny that Malta is under the threat of massive immigration through maritime illegal immigrants.

"No one" obviously excludes liberal and leftist utopianists who preach supposedly "traditional Christian values" ignoring the common good, the national interest, social peace and cohesion, protection of our national identity, the right to control immigration et cetera et cetera. Needless to say, what I mentioned is part and parcel of Catholic Social Teaching and Malta's true "traditional Christian values" which were part of a history of alliance between Maltese Nationalists and the local Clergy (not in the least because Nationalists professed the Catholic Faith against Anglophile Imperialists and atheistic materialistic Socialists who in their beginning also openly propagated Communist material imbued with atheism and anti-religious and anti-clerical propaganda) against "progressive" revolutionary forces of anti-clerical, often atheistic if not militantly atheistic forces whose political descendants, mostly, nowadays clamour for "traditional Christian values" but apparently restricted to the immigration question.

You see Greens and Socialists clamouring for traditional Christian values in relation to immigration, some "intellectuals" asserting the concept of the "nation" does not even exist (in clear contrast with Catholic teaching). Just as an example, the local Greens just recently went to the Bishop of Gozo asserting their will to implement divorce while exclaiming they're in favour of strong families. So much for "traditional Christian values" and adhering to Christ's invective against the notion of divorce or remarriage.

Prince Eugen
Monday, April 17th, 2006, 06:52 PM
I believe that Greeks are the most xenophobic people in Europe but the funny thing is that they become mad if you call them racists:-O

Blood_Axis
Monday, April 17th, 2006, 07:04 PM
I believe that Greeks are the most xenophobic people in Europe but the funny thing is that they become mad if you call them racists:-O
Indeed. They may try to appear as politically correct and even believe themselves to be anti-racist. But there is a standard way to set then off, namely by asking them "would you let your daughter marry an african?" and see the responses :argue :D

Pragmatiker
Monday, April 17th, 2006, 07:17 PM
Or ask them what they think about Israel or jews in general ;)

Prince Eugen
Monday, April 17th, 2006, 07:20 PM
Indeed. They may try to appear as politically correct and even believe themselves to be anti-racist. But there is a standard way to set then off, namely by asking them "would you let your daughter marry an african?" and see the responses :argue :D
Reminds me a family friend member of the Communist party what happened when his daughter brought his future son in law ,an african from Nigeria!
He throught his son and his future ''son in law'' out from the house:D
And he still believe that is antiracist:D


Or ask them what they think about Israel or jews in general ;)
If i say what my copatriots believe about jews i will be censored!

Kurenda
Tuesday, April 25th, 2006, 01:54 AM
Interesting debate...
Been traveling around Europe and I concluded the following.
It is obvious that people from western european states are "less" racist than people from eastern countries.
But please do not mix "nationalistic" and "racist". There are still many national tensions all over Europe.
Croats and Serbs don't like each other, Germans and Poles don't like each other, etc.
It is simple countries from west part of Europe for the long time have laws against "racial hate and violence" while countries in Eastern Europe not that much or not at all.
In my opinion most Europeans are racist but Western Europeans have to hide their racial feelings or they will be persecuted. You can imagine what will happen in Germany, France or Sweden if someone beat a black on the street ?
In my opinion most racist countries in Europe are Serbia and Russia. Been there "on the field" so have some experiance.
Serbs are still represented in medias as "evil war criminals" but in my opinion they are great people. Most white people will somehow avoid Serbs not to mention some coloured immigrants. It is very hard to see non white people in Serbia exept some gipsies. In capital Belgrade you will eventually see some non-whites but most probably they are embassy workers or something like that. Been to few smaller towns and they are pure white communities. Most colored will be ignored totally or made fun off. I attended basketball game and there was a black in one of the teams and audience immediatelly started shounting racial slures at him so he had to leave the game and later he moved to another country saying how he had to leave "becuase Serbs are evil racists".
Russians are even worst killing a black there is like sayng "good afternoon". Personally I saw when few middle aged Russians beat a black in the middle of Red Square for some reason and he ran to near police patrol to seek protection or to complain. But those 3 cops immediatelly started beating him also. Non white skin is the reason to be killed or at least beaten in Russia. Chechens, Armenians, Grusians are also targeted. Russian medias are full of reports of non whites being attacked and killed and it looks laws there are very soft on this.
So as conclusion I vote for Serbia and Russia as most racist countries in
Europe !:thumbup
The least racist in my opinion is France. :thumbdown

Graf v Zeppelin
Wednesday, April 26th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Damn tough question.

I think you’d have to divide it up between Western Europe and Eastern Europe. In Western Europe I would say that the Finns are the most aware, at lease if one looks at the number of immigrants they have (few), the worst would be a tie between England, Sweden, Norway, Germany, France, Belgium, thank god the Danes and Dutch improved over the last few years.

In the East they all appear to be more reasonable, but with the lovely EUSSR things will probably tend to rapidly deteriorate.

Jehan
Wednesday, April 26th, 2006, 06:21 PM
Quite a lot of people designated France as the least racist country of Europe.

The Front National has a strong basis, they got to the second round in France's last elections and got almost 20% of the vote. Which nationalist party of Europe is doing as good?

Also, I don't think there's a single right wing intellectual movement comparable to the Nouvelle Droite in all of Europe. (Honestly people, you can't compare Troy Southgate to Alain de Benoit and Guillaume Faye.;))

Imnotwearingsocks
Wednesday, April 26th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I think it's even different between different regions in certain countries.
Tolerant countires that come to mind are Sweden,America, and the UK.
Germany is very racist from what I heard. I had an indian friend who said each time they see non-whites they ask to show passports.:P

Nachtengel
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 08:18 PM
Which Country is the least Racist Country in Europe?
Which is the most?

Please explain your choices.

For the least Racist country in my opinion is Sweden. Since they are so "unracist" that they wouldn't using the word immigrant is considered offensive so they use the term "new Swede" to describe foreigners.

As for the most racist country I haven't got much of a clue. But I'll say Germany as I am aware they still have quite a few skin heads and neo-Nazis there.
Are you joking? Germany is one of the least racist countries in Europe. Our government policy is pro-immigrant and foreigner, and anti-native German. The neo-nazis and skins are a minority. The average person is liberal and brainwashed. I don't know if currently there is any racist country in Europe.

The most racist country in the world is Israel.

Wulfram
Wednesday, April 15th, 2009, 01:19 AM
Are you joking? Germany is one of the least racist countries in Europe. Our government policy is pro-immigrant and foreigner, and anti-native German. The neo-nazis and skins are a minority. The average person is liberal and brainwashed. I don't know if currently there is any racist country in Europe.

The most racist country in the world is Israel.

Agreed. Out of all the "politically correct" races, whites have become the very model of the definition.
Alas, we here in America as elsewhere have all but politically corrected ourselves into a corner. We can't step one foot in either direction for fear of stepping on someones non-white toes.

Nachtengel
Wednesday, March 29th, 2017, 04:52 PM
What Is the Most Racist Country in Europe?

Find out in our scientific survey.

The BBC's Panorama programbroke the news that Poles are all massively racist. What were we even thinking of letting those bigots host the Euro 2012 soccer tournament? In response, the British press has been rumbling and wrangling away at people about it in that way the press does when it has nothing else to talk about. What the BBC have willfully ignored, however, is whether any other country in Europe is actually any better.

We at VICE are more scientific than that, so we cast a quick glance around the continent for racists.

SWEDEN

If you'd like to see a bunch of Swedish fascists in action you should watch our film Teenage Riot: May Day in Eskilstuna.

The Tag
The home of enlightened progressive thought and bending-over-backwards cultural deference.

The Evidence
FACT
Sweden was the first country in the world to introduce a research center for racial biology—in the town of Upsalla. It was there that the idea of forced sterilization of the mentally ill, the physically disabled, the gay, or people suffering from ethnic minority-ness first found scientific credibility. Incredibly, this tactic was approved by the government and was still technically legal under Swedish law until fairly recently. Before 1975, if you were caught with a red hot pair of scissors in the vicinity of a gay Somali's testes, legally-speaking, there was nothing the police could do.

FACT
A recent survey showed that job-seekers in Sweden have a 50 percent higher chance of being called up for an interview if they have a Swedish-sounding name rather than an Arab-sounding one.

FACT
Earlier this year, Swedish Minister for Culture Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth decided that she should do more to promote cultural harmony for World Art Day. So she ceremonially cut open a cake. This was the cake:

That's her with the plate, by the way. Not the one lying down. Note all the people in the background going, "Go on, Lena, keep grinning, that's it, yeah, God, this pic is gonna look great on Facebook when I do a witty caption about the end of your career."

Verdict
Swedes are a nasty bunch of CV-binning cake-baking race haters, for whom tying the tubes of anyone who doesn't fulfill their eugenicized national ideal is as natural as tying their shoelaces (though we have to admit that all that eugenics has left them extremely good looking).

Travel Advice
Avoid if you are anything up to and including a Norweigan, have one tooth a little bit twisted or suffer from occasional eczema: you will be taking a Zyklon B power-shower within minutes of landing.

Racism Rating
5/5

POLAND

The Tag
"Stay at home, watch it on TV. Don't even risk it... because you could end up coming back in a coffin." - Sol "Factually Accurate" Campbell

The Evidence
FACT
In mid-2011, a large group of Polish football supporters unfurled a banner proclaiming: "Death to the Hooked-Nosed Ones," illustrated with a picture of a Jew with a large crooked nose, at a stadium in Rzesow. The game was not televised. There were no players of Jewish origin on the pitch at the time. And, given that Poland's Jewish population is vanishingly small, it is not particularly likely there were even any Jews in the stadium at all.

Which doesn't make it any better, obviously, but it does, in fact, make the Poles in question seem even more unnecessarily pathetic.

Verdict
In a country which is 98 percent ethnically Polish, Poles have had to resort to being racist against people who don't exist. They probably maintain a sort of internal fantasy football league of race-hate, acting out this pitiful shadow-boxing in the absence of genuine targets. It is likely that, when no one else is around, Polish neo-Nazis force each other to dress up as Arabs in crude tea-towel and bath-sheet costumes, then beat each other with sticks just for the release.

Travel Advice
In terms of race-hate, wet-behind-the-ears Poles have never even taken off the training-wheels. Safe for travel, so long as you are not an Invisible Imaginary Jew.

Racism Rating
2/5


GREAT BRITAIN

The Tag
The land that gave the world concentration camps, the suppression of the Indian Mutiny, the hut tax and Roy "Chubby" Brown.

The Evidence
FACT
In July 2008, the National Children's Bureau released a 366-page guide counseling adults on recognizing racist behavior in young children. The guide, which was called "Young Children and Racial Justice," warned that babies should also be a part of "the effort to eliminate racism." Nursery staff, it said, should be on alert for racist remarks among toddlers.

FACT
In May of this year it was announced that the Metropolitan Police banned the use of the term "blacklist" in all official correspondence, concerned it might be offensive to people.

Verdict
The British are suffering from a national scourge of toddler race-hate. You can't go near a British play-pen these days without hearing terms like "nappy-head" and "ethnic Albanian." Britons spent hundreds of years constantly using a deeply offensive term like "b****list," knowing full well how demeaning it was, and therefore the "language of Shakespeare" should be reclassified as "the language of Hitler."

Travel Advice
A nasty place indeed. Shouldn't be gone near with a barge-pole. If you already live there, for heaven's sake, get out now. Just watch it on TV. Don't even risk it or you could be coming back in a coffin. In fact, don't even watch it on TV, it's just too dangerous.

Racism Rating
5/5


AUSTRIA

The Tag
Civilized, profiterole-enjoying classical music lovers and raging Nazis.

The Evidence
FACT
Austria gave the world —a UN Secretary General, who was also an actual certified ex-Nazi.


FACT
Even after it had been sensationally revealed that he was a former Nazi volunteer, Austrians STILL elected Waldheim as their President. It was almost as if they all secretly knew already.

FACT
Austrians didn't just vote for the far-right politician Jorg Haider. They voted for him in droves: 27 percent in all. So alarmed was the rest of Europe with his policies that, in the year 2000, 11 countries broke off diplomatic links when he formed a coalition government. Haider was such a frothing arch-nationalist that he sometimes dressed like this:

Verdict:
If you try and flag down a cab in Austria, it will likely turn into a spontaneous curbside Nuremberg Rally. If you ask an Austrian for a cig, he will first offer you a "heil."

Travel Advice
Try to avoid the more racist regions of Austria. You will be able to identify these easily on a map, as they will be the bits that are within the borders of Austria.

Racism Rating
4/5


SWITZERLAND

The Tag
Keep-to-themselves, sensible, moderate, gold-loving neutralists.

Evidence
FACT
In 2007, the Swiss introduced a law meaning that all members of your local community would have to vote on your citizenship application before you could win a passport. Since they did so, Muslims, Jews, Balkans, Africans, and Asians have been disproportionately rejected. In 2008, a disabled man from Kosovo was rejected on the grounds that, a) he was disabled and this would cost his community money and b) he was a Muslim. In other words, the system works well.

FACT
This was a Swiss election poster in 2007.

The caption says: "For More Security." It is designed to publicize a pledge to kick out all foreigners who break Swiss laws.

FACT
The SVP, the party behind the poster, is not some fringe nutjob collective who go waterskiing with Andrew Brons on Lake Geneva. It is the largest single party in Switzerland. It is, effectively, the Swiss government. Here is some more of their recent handiwork:

Clearly, reasonable men with reasonable aims.

Verdict
It's not just the Nazis' gold that the Swiss have hung onto.

Travel Advice
The only safe way for foreigners to travel in Switzerland is dressed in Leiderhosen with an alpenhorn protruding at a jaunty angle from your gob, a cuckoo clock in one hand and a Swiss Army Knife with a Muslim impaled on it in the other.

Racism Rating
5/5


GERMANY

The Tag
"Really nice people" - The North Minehead Gazette

The Evidence
At the time of going to press, a comprehensive reading of the past hundred years of German history showed no documented incidents of any racial bias.

Verdict
Germans are the most placid, right-on and groovy folk on the continent. The only racism here is directed against them—so sort it out, brothers from another mother.

Travel Advice
Just let it all hang out. There's a reason it's known as "The Land of the Free."

Racism Rating
0/5
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/guide-to-european-racist-leagues