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ogenoct
Tuesday, August 17th, 2004, 03:41 AM
"Jewish participation in the Russian and Bolshevik revolutions was very central, but it was not Jews who initiated the revolutionary process and directed it. They were used very extensively and were recruited by many revolutionary organizations, but they served not as 'masters but as shopkeepers and salesmen of the Russian revolution,' as Pasmanik said. A most interesting observation was made by the German Slavist Walter Biehahn, who said that 'the Russian Revolution found an excellent medium in Jewish internationalism to spread its ideas over the world so it would seem that all the Communist-Bolshevik movement proceeds from Jews.' According to Biehahn, this rule was only an optical illusion since the Russian revolution was an entirely Russian phenomenon. Biehahn wrote these lines in 1935 in Nazi Germany, and thus opposed the official Nazi interpretation of the Bolshevik revolution."

-- Mikhail Agursky, THE THIRD ROME

Social-Nationalist
Friday, September 10th, 2004, 08:17 AM
The Jewish origins of Bolshevism and how it affected it is to me undeniable, and this stopped me from being a Bolshevik for a long time, and also finding out that Karl Marx was a Jew, and how that affected the thesis of communim. Nevertheless, in spite of all this, I think the communists were fundamentally right.

Social-Nationalist
Friday, September 10th, 2004, 08:22 AM
I think that although Marx and some of the bolsheviks were Jews, they were rebel Jews (most Jews being capitalists) that wanted, perhaps naively, to change the greedy nature of the Jew.

ogenoct
Friday, September 10th, 2004, 12:41 PM
I think that although Marx and some of the bolsheviks were Jews, they were rebel Jews (most Jews being capitalists) that wanted, perhaps naively, to change the greedy nature of the Jew.
Finally somebody on this forum who agrees with me! As Alexander Dugin argues: There were "good" and "bad" Jews during the Bolshevik Revolution. The good ones thought and felt (and hence were!) Russian and wanted to participate in the Bolshevik Uprising because they wanted to liberate the Russian people from the Tsarist tyranny. The "bad" Jews were the ones that thought in internationalist terms (the Trotzky variety) and essentially were the henchmen of Western capitalism. Also, even though Marx was a Jew, Engels was not, and both Marx and Engels were ardent German nationalists.

Constantin

Social-Nationalist
Saturday, October 16th, 2004, 01:34 PM
Not only is the Jewish religion is contrary to socialism and communism, but the Jews as a race are mostly endemic to the bourgeois strata of society, and their interests therefore run directly against those of communism and the bolsheviks. In Russia before the revolution, the Jews controlled 40% of the wealth, yet comprised less than two percent of the population. The bolsheviks pretty much put an end to this. Thus, to say that the Bolshevism is Jewish is preposterous.

Here are some Marxist quotations on the Jewish question, which show how Jewish interests run stark against those of the revolution:

"The influence of the Jews is more noticeable than ever. They are at the head of European capitalists. In politics many Jews are in the front rank. The press in more than one European capital is almost wholly in their hands. But while on one hand the Jews are thus beyond dispute the leaders of the plutocracy of Europe, another section of the same race form the leaders of that revolutionary propaganda which is making way against that very capitalist class represented by their own fellow Jews. Jews have held forth against those who make their living not by producing value but by trading on the differences of value. In the period we are approaching, not the slightest influence on the side of revolution will be that of the Jew." -- Comrade Hyndman, an early scientific socialist, and a contemporary of Marx and Engels.

"What is the profane basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest.

"What is the worldly cult of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly god? Money."
--Karl Marx

Japetos
Saturday, October 16th, 2004, 07:03 PM
Carl Marx was not a Jew in spirit.
He was more "Aryan" than a lot of non-Jewish White capitalists.

Social-Nationalist
Wednesday, November 3rd, 2004, 11:12 PM
Do you agree with me that Jewish interests - jews being the head of modern capitalism - run directly against those of socialism and communism?

Siegmund
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 02:53 AM
Carl Marx was not a Jew in spirit.
He was more "Aryan" than a lot of non-Jewish White capitalists.
On the contrary, Marx's obsession with the control of money and capital reflect the quintessential Jewish obsession with the control of money and capital.

The argument between capitalists and marxists is ultimately an argument among Jews over strategy. Action-oriented Jews tend to favor capitalism because trading on the differences in value suits their practical temperament. Intellectual Jews tend to favor marxism because simply ordering the uses to which value may be put suits their more abstract temperament. In both systems the greatest benefits accrue to the ruling class.... the class that controls the money and capital.

As a side note, the paradox of marxism is that its practical incarnation in communism just doesn't work, which makes sense given that it is the creation of abstract thinkers with little expertise in the practical arena.

Siegmund
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 03:18 AM
"Jewish participation in the Russian and Bolshevik revolutions was very central, but it was not Jews who initiated the revolutionary process and directed it. They were used very extensively and were recruited by many revolutionary organizations, but they served not as 'masters but as shopkeepers and salesmen of the Russian revolution,' as Pasmanik said. A most interesting observation was made by the German Slavist Walter Biehahn, who said that 'the Russian Revolution found an excellent medium in Jewish internationalism to spread its ideas over the world so it would seem that all the Communist-Bolshevik movement proceeds from Jews.' According to Biehahn, this rule was only an optical illusion since the Russian revolution was an entirely Russian phenomenon. Biehahn wrote these lines in 1935 in Nazi Germany, and thus opposed the official Nazi interpretation of the Bolshevik revolution."

-- Mikhail Agursky, THE THIRD ROME
Constantin, where does the Jew Lenin fit into the ranks of "shopkeepers and salesmen"? Oh, I know, he must have been the master shopkeeper! :D

Also, I would argue that far from the Russians using Jewish internationalism, Jewish internationalism used the Russians. Look at the results: decades of misery under the Bolsheviks only to be delivered up to the depredations of the capitalist system, America and Israel in the end after all. Why are you not angry at these Jewish Marxist Bolshevik hypocrites and deceivers of a proud Volk like the Russians? :(

Social-Nationalist
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 03:29 AM
Lenin was not a Jew; I will deal with the rest later.

Quisling
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 03:58 AM
Jews-by-race dominate both big capitalism and communism. They use them as a vehicle to fight the gentile world that 'oppressed' them for centuries.

Jews invented communism [Marx] and then spread [via the Bolsheviks and the Comintern] communism worldwide.
http://wsi.matriots.com/ListofBolsheviks.html





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Siegmund
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 04:13 AM
Lenin was not a Jew; I will deal with the rest later.
While you are thinking it over, here is some more food for thought:


(1) Dmitri Volkoganov on Lenin and Trotsky

Volkoganov was Director of the Institute For Military History in the USSR in its latest years. After the fall of the USSR he gained access to the previously-secret archives on Lenin.

In his biography Lenin, he writes of Lenin's Jewish self-identity: Lenin's sister Anna confirmed it in a letter to Stalin.

"{p. 8} In her letter to Stalin, Anna wrote, 'It's probably no secret for you that the research on our grandfather shows that he came from a poor Jewish family ...

"{p. 9} ' ... she also asserted ... that Lenin's Jewish origins 'are further confirmation of the exceptional abilities of the Semitic tribe, [confirmation] always shared by Ilyich [Lenin] ... Ilyich always valued the Jews highly'. ... Anna's claim explains, for instance, why Lenin frequently recommended giving foreigners, especially Jews, intellectually demanding tasks, and leaving the elementary work to the 'Russian fools'..

"But a little over a year later, Anna approached Stalin again, asserting that 'in the Lenin Institute, as well as in the Institute of the Brain ... they have long recognized the great gifts of this nation and the extremely beneficial effects of its blood on the progeny of mixed marriages. Ilyich himself rated their revolutionary qualities highly, contrasting it with the more sluggish and unstable character of the Russians. He often pointed out that the great [attributes of] organization and the strength of the revolutionary bodies in the south and west [of Russia] arose precisely from the fact that 50 per cent of their members were of that nationality.' But Stalin, the Russified Georgian, could not allow it to be known that Lenin had Jewish roots, and his strict prohibition remained firmly in place."

"{p.xxxvii} He {Lenin} went on: 'Hand out the work to Russian idiots: send the cuttings here, but not occasional issues (as these idiots have been doing until now).'

"{p. 112} He {Lenin} might have been thinking of Parvus (or perhaps himself?) when he said to Gorky: 'the clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him.'" source (http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/lenin-trotsky.html)

Stríbog
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 04:23 AM
Bolshevism and international finance capitalism are two sides of the same coin. Both were/are vehicles for advancing Jewish interests.

The Bolshevik Revolution was financed by Jewish capitalist bankers and merchants, e.g. Schiff, Hammer and Warburg.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 06:15 AM
Bolshevism and international finance capitalism are two sides of the same coin. Both were/are vehicles for advancing Jewish interests.

The Bolshevik Revolution was financed by Jewish capitalist bankers and merchants, e.g. Schiff, Hammer and Warburg.

Sribog is the only one getting it. Jews will use Capitalism, Communism, or Socialism for the pruposes of futhering Zionism. Capitalism, Communism, Socialism are like clothes to Jews. They take them off and discard them after wearing them out. Look at what they did to the Soviet Union just recently. They jumped ship, and wanted to immigrate to the USA or Isreal when times got tough. When times get tough, the Jews get going.

This proclivity of Jews for using other ideologies has recently come into focus among East and West Coast (USA) Jews of the Hollywood type. They didn't support G.W. Bush. Why? Bush has done more for Israel than any living man. Why would these wanna-be Jewish intellectuals oppose Bush? The answer is that they are suspicious of his Faith-Based Foreign Policy and its ultimate motive. This is because a growing number of Jews believe Bush is not interested in the people of Israel or what is right or wrong, he is only interested in bringing about or at least furthering biblical prophesy. For the Christian Fundamentalists in the USA, this means a second coming of Christ. For the Jews, especially in Israel, this means The End, Armageddon. Bush and his Fundies expect to hear the call of a trumpet, a chorus of voices, and then begin to wing their way to heaven in holy rapture. The Jews are afraid this means total war with terrible new weapons which will turn every Jew into instant stem cells.

What this may mean is a distancing of Jews from their Great Benefactor. Jews are not interested in ideology, they are interested in furthering their own interests and will use anybody's "ism" to do this.

Quisling
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 06:41 AM
Sribog is the only one getting it. Jews will use Capitalism, Communism, or Socialism for the pruposes of futhering Zionism. Capitalism, Communism, Socialism are like clothes to Jews. They take them off and discard them after wearing them out. Look at what they did to the Soviet Union just recently. They jumped ship, and wanted to immigrate to the USA or Isreal when times got tough. When times get tough, the Jews get going.

This proclivity of Jews for using other ideologies has recently come into focus among East and West Coast (USA) Jews of the Hollywood type. They didn't support G.W. Bush. Why? Bush has done more for Israel than any living man. Why would these wanna-be Jewish intellectuals oppose Bush? The answer is that they are suspicious of his Faith-Based Foreign Policy and its ultimate motive. This is because a growing number of Jews believe Bush is not interested in the people of Israel or what is right or wrong, he is only interested in bringing about or at least furthering biblical prophesy. For the Christian Fundamentalists in the USA, this means a second coming of Christ. For the Jews, especially in Israel, this means The End, Armageddon. Bush and his Fundies expect to hear the call of a trumpet, a chorus of voices, and then begin to wing their way to heaven in holy rapture. The Jews are afraid this means total war with terrible new weapons which will turn every Jew into instant stem cells.

What this may mean is a distancing of Jews from their Great Benefactor. Jews are not interested in ideology, they are interested in furthering their own interests and will use anybody's "ism" to do this.




Yes. Very good post, Dr. Solar Wolff...




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Social-Nationalist
Thursday, November 4th, 2004, 04:59 PM
1. Jews were more attracted to Jewish nationalist, Zionist, and democratic socialist parties than to communist radicals.
2. Although it is true that in the early days there existed Zionistic Marxist parties, and these were mainly limited to the early days of the Israeli state, nevertheless the backing of the Soviet Union for countries hostile to Israel after the Arab-Israeli war in 1967 war was a coup de grâce for any alliance between two ideologies which are as diametrically opposed as Zionism and Communism. Indeed, in Israel after 1967, to identify with the left in general and the communists in particular has meant above all to favour territorial compromise with the Arabs. The Third International declared that Zionism was a fraud, and that it effected the exploitation of Arab workers by a minority of Jews. Needless to say, Israel sided with the capitalists.
3. The way in which you have lumped all jews together - regardless of religious or political orientation or economic situation - I would say is quite haphazard.
4. If we compare the economic growth, life expectancies, health care systems, etc. of Czarist Russia with the Soviet Union, we must necessarily conclude that the general population benefited from the Bolshevik revolution.
5. Hatred of capitalism is closely linked to anti-Semitism, for reasons above mentioned.
4. Most historians would agree with me that Lenin was not a Jew.
5. Karl Marx was by his own pronouncements anti-Jewish.

Quisling
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 02:46 AM
4. Most historians would agree with me that Lenin was not a Jew.
5. Karl Marx was by his own pronouncements anti-Jewish.



Lenin was not only part-Jewish but philo-Semitic, and married to a Jew.

Marx was racially Jewish, regardless.




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Deling
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 04:28 AM
Who cares if Marx' parents were assimilated Jews? It has no meaning. The emotional and popular streams of Bolshevism were two:

1) Contempt towards industrialization and urbanisation, and the idea about employer and employed (which was and is something culturally non-Russian).

2) Hatred against the idea of money's value, which was anti-thetical to Russian popular conceptions.

These are the straits lying beneath what would be called Bolshevism. Though of course, the Communists didn't erase these two subjects of hate but rather fully-covered its shadows upon Russia. For 74 years, that is.

The question about Jews in this regard is worthless. It's mental bankruptcy (or lack of brain) to bring up the question of "how many Jews?" when discussing ideological straits and idea-history. Whatever people claim, the emotional and popular straits that affected the whole anti-West and radical underground in Russia during that time, were purely Russian and nothing else. The same with Bolshevism (a term created in the West, not in Russia), even if Communists were jews.

Quisling
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 05:51 AM
Who cares if Marx' parents were assimilated Jews? It has no meaning. The emotional and popular streams of Bolshevism were two:

1) Contempt towards industrialization and urbanisation, and the idea about employer and employed (which was and is something culturally non-Russian).

2) Hatred against the idea of money's value, which was anti-thetical to Russian popular conceptions.

These are the straits lying beneath what would be called Bolshevism. Though of course, the Communists didn't erase these two subjects of hate but rather fully-covered its shadows upon Russia. For 74 years, that is.

The question about Jews in this regard is worthless. It's mental bankruptcy (or lack of brain) to bring up the question of "how many Jews?" when discussing ideological straits and idea-history. Whatever people claim, the emotional and popular straits that affected the whole anti-West and radical underground in Russia during that time, were purely Russian and nothing else. The same with Bolshevism (a term created in the West, not in Russia), even if Communists were jews.


What?? "Purely Russian?" You must surely be joking. Communism was a Jewish-created-and-spread weapon against gentile society:

http://wsi.matriots.com/CommunismIsJewish.html

How you can claim otherwise is unknown. Am I to understand that gentiles spread communism to, and in, Germany, Hungary, Poland and other places? If so, please give me the names of the gentiles who spread communism from Russia to those other places.

White Nationalism is an eye-on-the-ball ideology. White Nationalists must keep their eye on the ball, and not let side-issues distract them, if they wish to grasp the Jews and their awesome influence in the world.






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Social-Nationalist
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 06:30 AM
Deling: debatable, and irrelevant.

Quisling: I like how you "ignored" the bulk of my argument, and focused on the two most trivial aspects of it - by merely repeating the claim in question. I am afraid the burden of proof is on you here. And I am not going to repeat myself ad nauseum for those who are incapable of recognising that they have been refuted, or who are too lazy to read my post in its totality, whatever the case may be. Either that, or you simply do not understand what you read. You ASSUME and for the most part are always wrong. I can say you have a reading comprehensive disorder and ought to seek another line of interest or work. But that is my opinion, which I am entitled to. You refuse even to address my arguments, because they will debunk your notions completely and will force you to realise that you are in a hell of your own making, and are dead wrong about the alleged link between jews and communism. Once again, I am afraid most historians would quite agree with me on this, and the burden of proof is on you alone.

Quisling
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 06:46 AM
Okay, I will comment further, just to try to prove to you that I am not trying to ignore you:





4. If we compare the economic growth, life expectancies, health care systems, etc. of Czarist Russia with the Soviet Union, we must necessarily conclude that the general population benefited from the Bolshevik revolution.




Ha! As if the horror of 20 million murders were offset by a slight increase in availability of health care [an availability which I question, by the way].








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ogenoct
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 11:07 AM
Look at the results: decades of misery under the Bolsheviks only to be delivered up to the depredations of the capitalist system, America and Israel in the end after all. Why are you not angry at these Jewish Marxist Bolshevik hypocrites and deceivers of a proud Volk like the Russians? :(
Do you really believe that? Reality proves you wrong. Communism fell because of traitors within the system (fifth column). How have the "Jewish" Bolsheviks deceived the Russian folk? In actuality, the exact opposite happened. The Russians were saved from Tsarist oppression. Russia became the Third Rome, the Soviet Union was a proud Russian empire. Lenin was not a Jew. Quoting irrelevant conspiracy theories does not make him one. And besides, who cares? What difference would it make? HAIL Stalin! Besides, wasn't Hitler Jewish? And homosexual?

Constantin

Siegmund
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 12:44 PM
Do you really believe that? Reality proves you wrong. Communism fell because of traitors within the system (fifth column). How have the "Jewish" Bolsheviks deceived the Russian folk? In actuality, the exact opposite happened. The Russians were saved from Tsarist oppression. Russia became the Third Rome, the Soviet Union was a proud Russian empire. Lenin was not a Jew. Quoting irrelevant conspiracy theories does not make him one. And besides, who cares? What difference would it make? HAIL Stalin! Besides, wasn't Hitler Jewish? And homosexual?
First...
Cool signature. :)

Second...
I don't understand how you can be unaware of the utter misery in which the Russian folk lived under Bolshevism and in which many of them still live. Wasn't Bolshevisim supposed to provide a superior economic system and lead to prosperity for all Soviet citizens?

Bogus conspiracy theories about a "fifth column" aside, it was fundamentally the dire poverty of the people and bankruptcy of the economy that drove the CCCP into the arms of hooligan capitalism. Bolshevism and capitalism are the two sides of the same Jewish coin... because it's all about the coin, fundamentally and ultimately, in both systems.

Third...
I wonder what would have happened to an intellectual like yourself under the Soviet regime once you realized you were trapped in a system of venal, ignorant apparachniks. What if your ideas and intelligence were suppressed and you knew only a few individuals you could respect, and not even for their political beliefs but for basic human qualities like courage and honesty? What would you have done?

You would have rebelled!

HAIL Constantin, who would have rebelled, based on his own inner principles and convictions, against the very system he idealizes today, because that system was in reality corrupt!

Fourth...
To recognize the idealism of veteran members like yourself and your enthusiastic though largely ineffectual (;)) efforts to destroy the so-called curse of National Socialism, it would be great if Skadi had something like a "Hero of the Skadi Union" award. Out of respect for genuine Soviet heros like Vassili Zaitsev, it probably should be named something different, but you get the idea.

http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=24967&stc=1http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=24968&stc=1http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=24969&stc=1

Of course, there would have to be a countervailing award for veteran members who have fought valiantly against the genuine curse of National Bolshevism. I can think of AK and a few others who might be a natural for this coveted award.

ogenoct
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 03:29 PM
HAIL Constantin, who would have rebelled, based on his own inner principles and convictions, against the very system he idealizes today, because that system was in reality corrupt!
I do not idealize the Soviet Union. But compared to National Socialism, Bolshevism was the lesser of two evils. This is because the latter was pan-European in its approach (Stalin was a Germanophile, Hitler hated Slavs) while the former was pan-Germanic (to the detriment of the Slavs). Also, do you think that under Hitler's regime, the freedom of artistic expression was guaranteed? I do not think so! For example, one of the greatest of Germany's expressionist poets, Gottfried Benn, was an early defender of NS, but later on he was denounced as a "pervert" and his poems were banned. Simply because some ignorant SS-freaks could not comprehend the immaculate nature of Benn's opus. That just shows that even in the "benevolent" NS-regime, gratefulness was not something that was very prevalent. Great idea with the awards, Kamerad! ;) Please read the following essay of mine on the topic of art:

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=10180

For Race and Socialism!

Constantin

Social-Nationalist
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 04:34 PM
Okay, I will comment further, just to try to prove to you that I am not trying to ignore you:
It is interesting how you chose to comment on the only point I made which wasn't used to debunk the alleged link between communism and the jews....
Ha! As if the horror of 20 million murdersConjecture, number one. Post well structured arguments thus facilitating intelligent and spirited discussion, even unto debate, on the issues at hand. So far you have chosen not to adopt such an approach, being content to post contextless fragments.

Social-Nationalist
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 04:47 PM
the utter misery in which the Russian folk lived under BolshevismUnfounded, baseless assumption.
Bogus conspiracy theories about a "fifth column" aside,which are taken seriously by qualified authorities.
it was fundamentally the dire poverty of the people and bankruptcy of the economy that drove the CCCP into the arms of hooligan capitalism.Conjecture, number 2.
Bolshevism and capitalism are the two sides of the same Jewish coin... because it's all about the coin, fundamentally and ultimately, in both systems.socialism is the realised potential within the capitalist system. so yes, socialism is on a sense one side of the same coin - but the coin is by no means jewish. You have repeatedly failed to substantiate this thesis.
I wonder what would have happened to an intellectual like yourself under the Soviet regime once you realized you were trapped in a system of venal, ignorant apparachniks. What if your ideas and intelligence were suppressed and you knew only a few individuals you could respect, and not even for their political beliefs but for basic human qualities like courage and honesty? What would you have done?Art was proletarianised. As Mao Zedong said: "In the world today all culture, all literature and art belong to definite classes and are geared to definite political lines. There is in fact no such thing as art for art's sake, art that stands above classes, art that is detached from or independent of politics. Proletarian literature and art are part of the whole proletarian revolutionary cause; they are, as Lenin said, cogs and wheels in the whole revolutionary machine."

Quisling
Friday, November 5th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Conjecture, number one. Post well structured arguments thus facilitating intelligent and spirited discussion, even unto debate, on the issues at hand. So far you have chosen not to adopt such an approach, being content to post contextless fragments.


[sarcasm] T-T-That's me. Mister avoid-the-issues. Sorry I cannot match your amazing IQ [a nurse dropped me on my head when I was a baby, ya see. A tragedy, really...].




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Siegmund
Saturday, November 6th, 2004, 09:55 PM
For example, one of the greatest of Germany's expressionist poets, Gottfried Benn, was an early defender of NS, but later on he was denounced as a "pervert" and his poems were banned. Simply because some ignorant SS-freaks could not comprehend the immaculate nature of Benn's opus.
I must confess I cannot comprehend it either. Here is a vivid example of Benn's disgusting necromantic obsession, his eroticization of physical annihilation in its most grotesque form:


Nigger Bride

Then the blond neck of a white woman
lay bedded on dark bloody cushions.
The sun stormed in her hair
and licked along her light thighs
and kneeled at her brownish breasts,
not yet distorted by vice or birth.
Beside her a nigger, eyes and forehead
shredded by a horse's hoof, digging
two toes of his dirty left foot
into her little white ear.
Yet she lay asleep like a bride:
at the brink of first love's joys
as on the eve of many an Ascension
of warm young blood.
Until we sank
the knife into her white throat
and cast a purple garter of dead blood
around her hips.

Negerbraut

Dann lag auf Kissen dunklen Bluts gebettet
der blonde Nacken einer weißen Frau.
Die Sonne wütete in ihrem Haar
und leckte ihr die hellen Schenkel lang
und kniete um die bräunlicheren Brüste,
noch unentstellt durch Laster und Geburt.
Ein Nigger neben ihr: durch Pferdehufschlag
Augen und Stirn zerfetzt. Der bohrte
zwei Zehen seines schmutzigen linken Fußes
ins Innere ihres kleinen weißen Ohrs.
Sie aber lag und schlief wie eine Braut:
am Saume ihres Glücks der ersten Liebe
und wie vorm Aufbruch vieler Himmelfahrten
des jungen warmen Blutes.
Bis man ihr
das Messer in die weiße Kehle senkte
und einen Purpurschurz aus totem Blut
ihr um die Hüften warf.
National Socialist art under the Third Reich specifically sought to inspire and ennoble. The artistic values embodied in this poem do not elevate the mind or spirit; rather, they stink of disease, bodily corrruption, putrefaction and death. As I wrote elsewhere on Skadi with respect to entartete Musik:


Along the way I have, to your point, found much music of inferior quality, at least by the standards of beauty I subscribe to today. Included in this category is much that I would consider artistic and fascinating but also unhealthy and even diseased. I would say that most of what was labeled by Rosenberg and a grumpy Dr. Goebbels as entartete Musik really IS degenerate based on its musical values.
For those who are interested, I have attached a PDF of some of Benn's best known work.

Quisling
Sunday, November 7th, 2004, 06:19 AM
Also, do you think that under Hitler's regime, the freedom of artistic expression was guaranteed? I do not think so!



Thankfully, the Nazis curbed junk art and re-introduced real, White art to the German people.




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ogenoct
Sunday, November 7th, 2004, 03:45 PM
National Socialist art under the Third Reich specifically sought to inspire and ennoble. The artistic values embodied in this poem do not elevate the mind or spirit
Haha! To rephrase it: National Socialist art under the Third Reich (where else was NS practiced?) specifically sought to annihilate the creative impulse of Aryan man, forcing him to subdue his creative powers into a bourgeois blueprint, so that the Fuehrer's mustache might not be animated to shake with vehement ignorance. How do pictorial representations inspire? Why not use photographs instead? Hitler, the third-rate artist, dictating the aesthetic philosophy of "his" realm. What a joke! Hitler, the third-rate military leader, starting a war and then losing it. That fits, don't you think? Down with pictures of cows and fat maidens! Obviously you have no in-depth knowledge of the Nordic (in spirit and in soul!) art movement called Expressionism, otherwise you would not have dissed one of its leading lyrical proponents (Benn) in such an undignified manner.

Constantin

Quisling
Sunday, November 7th, 2004, 05:41 PM
Hitler, the third-rate military leader, starting a war and then losing it.




Golly gee, I did not know that Hitler started WWII. I thought Britain and France declared [unnecessary] war over Hitler's invading of Poland to regain land stolen from Germany. I guess I read different history books than you do.




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ogenoct
Sunday, November 7th, 2004, 05:45 PM
I thought Britain and France declared [unnecessary] war over Hitler's invading of Poland to regain land stolen from Germany.
Hitler knew full well that Britain and France would declare war on Germany if he would invade Poland. Why did he do it? Hitler's action was really the unnecessary one. What about the land that Hitler stole from the Czechs (not the Sudetenland)?

Constantin

Siegmund
Sunday, November 7th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Down with pictures of cows and fat maidens!
:lol


Obviously you have no in-depth knowledge of the Nordic (in spirit and in soul!) art movement called Expressionism, otherwise you would not have dissed one of its leading lyrical proponents (Benn) in such an undignified manner.
Ah, how well you have found me out... As a step toward my remediation, I will immediately undertake the study of the great esoteric "Nordic" Expressionist artists Kandinsky, Grosz, Marc, Nolde and Barlach.

On the subject of cows, here's a nice Expressionist cow from the great Nordic Expressionist painter Franz Marc:


http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=25259&stc=1

Down with fat bourgeois maidens:


http://forums.skadi.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=25260&stc=1

But back to Marc's cow and his Nordic Vision:

His vision of nature was pantheistic; he believed that animals possessed a certain godliness that men had long since lost. "People with their lack of piety, especially men, never touched my true feelings," he wrote in 1915. "But animals with their virginal sense of life awakened all that was good in me." By 1907 he devoted himself almost exclusively to the representation of animals in nature... The frolicking yellow cow, as a symbol of the female principle, may be a veiled depiction of Maria Franck, whom Marc married in 1911. Extending this reading, Rosenthal sees the triangular blue mountains in the background as Marc’s abstract self-portrait, thereby making this painting into a private wedding picture. source (http://www.guggenheimcollection.org/site/artist_work_md_98_5.html)

ogenoct
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 01:12 PM
Please read my translation of one of Benn's texts here:

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=11746

Constantin

Siegmund
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Please read my translation of one of Benn's texts here:

http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=11746

Constantin
Quite beautifully written, an opium dream from which one hopes we shall all one day awake.

It seems indisputable that what Benn refers to as the white race is, in its lust for markets, by educating and at the same time exploiting and alienating the rest of the world, making its own destruction at their hands inevitable.

Can you provide a link to an English translation (or even to the German original) of Result Of Perspectives?

ogenoct
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 10:35 PM
Can you provide a link to an English translation (or even to the German original) of Result Of Perspectives?
NO thanks for the insult! The ONLY English translation of this text is mine! It was first posted here (as a bonus: at the bottom of the page you can find my translation of one of the most prestigious works of the Waffen-SS member Kurt Eggers):

http://www.newnation.org/Hoffmeister/Result-of-Perspectives.html

Cheers!

Constantin

Siegmund
Monday, November 8th, 2004, 10:49 PM
NO thanks for the insult! The ONLY English translation of this text is mine! It was first posted here
No insult intended. I assumed your translation was an extract of a longer work, since it was prefaced by the Roman numeral "II." Thus, I was curious about the rest of the work, if any. From your reaction I take it that you translated it in its entirety.

Werwolf.
Monday, May 30th, 2005, 09:33 AM
BOLSHEVISM IS JEWISH

By A. S. Leese.

THE object of this pamphlet is to prove that Bolshevism is Jewish. Bolshevism represents one of the final stages in the deliberate Jewish programme for World Domination. It is not in the scope of this pamphlet to describe the earlier stages of the programme, in which Liberalism, Masonry and Marxism prepared the ground for Bolshevism; that part of the subject is dealt with in our pamphlet, “The Era of Democracy: the Era of World Ruin,” price 2½d, post free.



BOLSHEVISM IS NOT COMMUNISM.

Communism is not Bolshevism. In Bolshevik Russia, there is no common ownership of land, goods and money; nor is there equal pay for all. These two utterly impracticable ideals have, under the name Communism, been the means through which the Russian people have been duped into accepting something quite different, i.e., Bolshevism.

Then what is Bolshevism?

It is State Capitalism, run by Jews in the Jewish interests. The Jews being a non‑creative and unproductive nation have failed utterly in the grand farce of the Five‑Year‑Plan, because it was never in them to create but only to exploit what has been created by the work of others; in this case, they tried to create, and of course, failed.

The seemingly strange predilection for Bolshevism which is notice*able in unexpected places in Britain to‑day, is explained at once when it is realised that Bolshevism is a Jewish weapon; for the idea of Com*munism which prepares the “underdog” for Bolshevism, is backed by the Jewish Money Power itself, the existence of which as a political power is now becoming known even to the most unsuspecting Briton.



THE ALLIANCE OF JEWISH FINANCE AND BOLSHEVISM.

In exposing this alliance, we will quote the Jew Disraeli, in his work of history, “The Life of Lord George Bentinck,” written in 1852, at a time when revolutionary upheavals were convulsing Europe. “The influence of the Jews,” he writes, “may be traced in the last outbreak of the destructive principle in Europe. An insurrection takes place against tradition and aristocracy, against religion and property. Destruc*tion of the Semitic principle, extirpation of the Jewish religion, whether in the Mosaic or the Christian form, the natural equality of men and the abrogation of property are proclaimed by the Secret Societies which form Provisional Governments, and men of Jewish Race are found at the head of every one of them. The people of God co‑operate with atheists; the most skilful accumulators of property ally themselves with Communists; the peculiar and chosen Race touch the hand of all the scum and low castes of Europe; and all this because they wish to destroy that ungrateful Christendom which owes to them even its name, and whose tyranny they can no longer endure.”

Surely, no higher authority is possible; what was true in 1852 is true to‑day.



WHY RUSSIA WAS CHOSEN.

The first victim was Russia. The reason she was chosen was that she was the only country which defended herself by laws framed to prevent the Jew from contaminating and controlling her. Bolshevism is revenge on the part of the Jewish nation on Russia, actuated by Asiatic hate and tyranny.

The Jews, chose their ground well. The Slav is by nature not individualistic; he is patient, inured to hardship and fatalistic. He accepted the idea of Communism; and he got the fact of Bolshevism. He accepted the idea of equal wages for all and property held in common; and he got a toll of 20 million lives, double the blood‑bill of the Great War, as the price of his own starvation and slavery under Jews.

The first direct blow was organised by the Jew Parvus, alias Helphand, in conjunction with the German General Staff; the “Sisson Report,” published by the American Committee on Public Information, 1918, conclusively establishes the connection between the Jew Bankers of Germany and the financing of Lenin and Trotsky for the Revolution. Among other items printed in documents published by the U.S.A. Government, is the following letter:—

Stockholm, 21st Sept., 1917.

Mr. Raphael Scholan. Haparanda.


Dear Comrade,

The office of the Banking House M. Warburg has opened in accord*ance with telegram from president of Rheinish‑Westphalian Syndicate an account for the undertaking of Comrade Trotsky. The attorney (agent) purchased arms and has organised their transportation and delivery up to Luleo & Varde. Name to the office of Essen & Son in Luleo, receivers, and a person authorised to receive the money demanded by Comrade Trotsky.

J. Furstenberg.

(Furstenberg was a Jew and later, under the name Ganetsky became a prominent member of the Soviet Government.)


This proves the Bolshevik connections of the Jew Banker, Max Warburg, brother of Paul Warburg, of Kuhn Loeb & Co., New York, who was the brother‑in‑law of Jacob Schiff, the head of that all‑Jewish firm, who hated Russia so virulently that he would not render the Allies any help in raising loans, until Russia was out of the war.

If any further proof of the interworking of Jewish finance with the Bolsheviks is needed, the case of the Bolshevik non‑Jew Krassin (married to a Jewess), can be cited. Krassin had been involved in a revolutionary plot in 1907; he was then employed by Siemens Schuckert which is affiliated to the A.E.G., the big electrical combine, of which the Jew Rathenau was President. In 1909, Krassin became director of the St. Petersburg Branch. In 1917, he was in Stockholm with the Jew Furstenberg (signatory of the letter quoted above) and travelled with him to Berlin, and when the Bolshevik Revolution broke out, he took up his old job with Siemens Schuckert, whilst at the same time, Lenin placed him at the head of five Soviet Government Departments, including transport and food supply. The intermingling of this Soviet official with Jewish financiers outside Russia is thus proved up to the hilt.

So highly did the Soviet Government prize the assistance of Kuhn Loeb & Co., the Jewish Bankers of New York, that they gave royal welcomes to the super‑capitalist representatives of that firm when Felix Warburg visited Russia in 1927, and Mrs. Otto Kahn in 1931. The alliance of Jewish Finance with Bolshevism was as complete as it was when Disraeli wrote in 1852, as above quoted.

A significant statement was made by Lord Apsley in the House of Commons on 23rd March, 1938; after pointing out that Russia was now the second greatest gold‑exporting country in the world, he went on:—

“The shortage of gold of a few years ago had been overtaken and with the dismissal from office and power of M. Trotsky, who always kept in close co‑operation with those who were interested in the production of gold, Russia reversed her policy of keeping her gold‑mines out of employment, and became a great producer of gold.”

Who are “those interested in the production of gold”? The answer must be RICH JEW BANKERS. (Trotsky is a Jew, of course.)

Not only was this Bolshevik Jew, then, “in close co‑operation” with rich Jews, but he had acted as a brake upon Russian production of gold to maintain the virtual monopoly of production of that metal under their control.


BOLSHEVISM HAS THE SYMPATHY OF JEWRY.

On 4th April, 1919, this was admitted in “The Jewish Chronicle,” which stated, “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism.”

Israel Zangwill, in an address praised “the race which has produced a Beaconsfield, a Reading, a Montagu, a Klotz, a Kurt Eisner, a Trotsky.”



THE TREATMENT OF JEWS IN BOLSHEVIK RUSSIA.

In Russia, “anti‑semitism” is a crime punishable by death. On 9th August, 1918, Lenin signed an order of the Council of People's Commissars instructing “all Soviet Deputies to take uncom*promising measures to tear the anti‑Semitic movement out by the roots. Pogromists and pogrom‑agitators are to be placed outside the law.” All that is because Bolshevism is Jewish.

The Jews, trying to prevent the recognition of this elementary fact, have from time to time published false stories about the hardships endured by the Jews at the hands of the Soviet. Chief Rabbi Gluskin and five other Rabbis, however, denied these tales in an appeal to Jews throughout the world not to support foreign agitation against the Soviet Government of Russia; this appeal was published at Moscow, on 27th February, 1930, and contained the following statements:—“The Soviet Government is the only one conducting an open fight against anti‑semitism”; “it abolished the shameful laws which limited Jewish rights.” The reader is reminded of the Christian persecutions in Russia under the Soviet.

Huge areas in the Crimea and Biro Bidjan have been allotted for exclusive settlement by Jews; these new “Homes for the Jews” have been failures, because the Jew cannot work; but, nevertheless, the intention of the Soviet is clear. The Jews have been specially favoured.

1n February, 1932, the Jew I. Montagu spoke in Manchester on “Russia” under the auspices of the “Friends of Soviet Russia.” He stated that the alleged oppression of the Jews there by the Soviet was an offensive lie. The Soviet had liberated all Jews from the disabilities imposed under the Tsar. Again, speaking before the Jewish Literary Society, 14th October, 1934, he said that Jews were given priority in employment on new works in the Soviet Union.



THE MARK OF THE BEAST.

Every Russian soldier under the Soviet, bears upon his cap the Jewish symbol of control, the five‑pointed star. The same emblem has now replaced the double‑headed eagles on the pinnacles of the towers of the Kremlin at Moscow.



THE JEWS OF THE SOVIET GOVERNMENT.

The Secret Council of War of the Bolsheviks, October 1917, con*sisted of seven Jews and five others, and the Jew Sverdlov presided over it. The “others” included Lenin, whose origin is doubtful although Russian authorities consider him to be a Jew.

“The power of the Government lies in the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party and its composition in 1918 was nine Jews and three Russians.” (R. Wilton, Times correspondent, in Les derniers jours des Romanof, Paris 1921, p. 136.)

By 1920, the Government of the Soviet Russia was made up as follows:—*

Council of Commissaries of the people 22 of which 17 were Jews
Commissariat of War43 „ „ 33 „ „
Foreign Affairs 16 „ „ 13 „ „
Finance 30 „ „ 24 „ „
Justice 21 „ „ 20 „ „
Public Instruction 53 „ „ 42 „ „
Social Assistance 6 „ „ all „ „
Commissariat of Work 8 „ „ 7 „ „
Commissaries of the Provinces 23 „ „ 21 „ „
Journalists 41 „ „ all „ „

Among the best‑known Jews of the Soviet Government were Sverdlov, Trotsky, Kamenev, Sokolnikoff, Uritsky, Litvinoff, Zinoviev, Radek and Kaganovitch. Stalin's wife is a Jewess. In no Department of Government was the proportion of Jews less than 76 per cent., and generally it was much more. This state of things has continued until 1938; Foreign Affairs, Agriculture, Commerce, Traffic Control, Food (i.e., the absence of it), and Finance, were entirely under Jewish mis‑management. At the time of writing (Feb. 1939) it is evident that a gradual change is taking place; a large number of Jewish officials have been “liquidated” (executed) and the situation is obscure; the Jew Litvinoff remains at the Foreign Office and the Jew Kaganovitch (Stalin's father‑in‑law) at Stalin's right‑hand. Meanwhile it is obvious that the Red Army has deteriorate to the extent that it can no longer be regarded seriously as a fighting‑force. However, there are plenty of Jewish officials working up front below.

The representatives of the Soviet Government abroad are always Jews; we in Britain have been treated to a succession of these Jews, and at the time of writing the Soviet Ambassador is the Jew Maiski. (1939).

As the Daily Telegraph remarked on 9th April, 1937:—“Since M. Litvinoff ousted Chicherin, no Russian has ever held a high post in the Commissariat for Foreign Affairs.” The newspaper seems to he unaware that, according to the late Russian General Netchvolodow, Chicherin's mother was a Jewess!

When the Soviet Government ceases to be Jewish, it will cease to be Bolshevik!



THE CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE.

How is it then, that this plain fact has not been generally known to the British public? Because the Jews have the money to suppress the truth, as they are doing to‑day (1939) about Hitler in Germany. Judge the extent of this power, and the evil of it, froth the following authoritative statements which have passed the Jewish censorship:—

(1) A British Government White Paper, entitled “Russia. No. 1. A Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia,” was published in April, 1919. This contained a Report from M. Oudendyk, the Netherlands Minister at Petrograd during the Bolshevik revolution. This report was dated 6th September, 1918, and was sent by M. Oudendyk to our Minister in Norway, Sir M. Findlay, who passed it on to Mr. Balfour. The report contained these words:—“I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the greatest issue now before the world, not even excluding the War, which is still raging, and unless as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world, as it is organised and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.” (Our Italics).

So the Foreign Office knew in 1918 that Bolshevism is Jewish; M. Oudendyk at the time of writing his report was acting officially for the protection of British interests, as our own man had been murdered by the Bolsheviks.

But that is not the whole story. There is more.

This White Paper speedily became unobtainable; and an abridged edition wits issued in which the passage above quoted, but very little else, was eliminated from the Netherlands Minister's Report. Photo*stats of the page in question can be supplied to order from the I.F.L. at 2s. 6d. post free.

(2) The Jew M. Cohen, writing in “The Communist,” Kharkoff, 12th April, 1919:—“Without exaggeration, it may be said that the great Russian revolution was indeed accomplished by the hands of Jews——It is true that there are no Jews in the ranks of the Red Army as far as Privates are concerned, but in the committees and in the Soviet organisations, as Commissars, the Jews are gallantly leading the masses of the Russian proletariat to victory—the symbol of Jewry has become also the symbol of the Russian proletariat which can be seen in the fact of the adoption of the Red five‑pointed star, which in former times was the symbol of Zionism and Jewry.”

(3) W. Ramsbotham, writing in “The Morning Post,” 24th Sept., 1919, from Odessa, states:—“Some two hundred Bolshevist Commissaries were tried by Court‑martial (by the White Russians, A.S.L.). All of them were Jews.”

(4) Mr. R. Wilton, Russian correspondent of “The Times,” for 17 years, and living in Russia through the revolutionary period, wrote “The Jewish domination is supported by certain Russians. They are all mere screens and dummies behind which the Sverdlovs and the thousand and one Jews of Sovdepia continue their work of destruction.” (The Last Days of the Romanovs, p. 148.)

(5) Quisling, in “Russia and Ourselves,” p. 56, 1931, states “ordinary people in Russia, look upon Jews and Bolshevists as practically synonymous.”

(6) “One of the facts we marked very soon in our adventurous career was the large number of Jews who occupy positions of trust and influence in the Revolutionary Administration.” (Mrs. Philip Snowden in Through Bolshevik Russia, p. 27.)

(7) The “Jewish Chronicle,” 6th January, 1933, p. 19, says:*—“Over one‑third of the Jews (in Russia) have become officials.”

(8) The following are extracts from an address by Major M. Schuyler on 11th January, 1920 at the Church of St. John the Evangelist, New York City, he having just returned from service in the U.S.A. Army in Siberia, where it was supposed to be assisting the White Russian Admiral Kolchak against the Red Army of Revolution:—“The Govern*ment of Russia is almost entirely Jewish, and our U.S.A. Army in Siberia was full of Bolshevist Jews straight from Moscow. They lead entered the U.S. and enlisted in the U.S. Army going to Siberia. General Graves the Commander, had a staff that was almost entirely Jewish.” “Owing to the Bolshevist Jews in our army, all information that should have reached Kolchak went straight to Moscow.” (Major Schuyler was three times Consul‑General for the U.S. during the old regime.)

(9) John Pollock says in his The Bolshevik Adventure (Constable, 1919), p. 27: “The Bolsheviks are for the most part not Russians at all, but Jews who had suffered persecution at the hands of the Russian Government.”

p. 104: “By such means (Bolshevism), the Russian nation has been reduced to a condition of complete subservience to the rule of a com*paratively small number of men of almost exclusively Jewish extraction; aliens, that is, in blood, in education, in ideals, and supported by alien force. The extent to which this is generally recognised is shown by the common gibe in Petrograd: ‘Are you a Commissar, or do you belong to the orthodox religion?’”

(10) “No less than 82 per cent. of the Bolshevik Commissars were known to be Jews.” (Daily Express correspondent, J. E. Hodgson, in With Denikin's Armies, p. 55.)

(11) “When one lives in contact with the officials who are employed by the Bolshevik Government, a remarkable fact strikes one: they are all, or nearly all, Jews. I am far from being an anti‑semite, but I must state what I notice everywhere in Petrograd, in Moscow, in the Provinces, in all the commissariats, in the district offices, at Smolny, in the former ministries, in the soviets, I have met Jews and yet again Jews. The more one studies this second revolution, the more one is convinced that Bolshevism is a Jewish movement . . . “ (L'Enfer Bolchevik à Petrograd, 1919, Paris, by R. Vaucher, correspondent of L'Illustration.)



BOLSHEVISM WAS JEWISH IN GERMANY.

In the German Marxist Revolutions of 1918, the Jews were the directors and strategists; the Soviet Republic of Munich was led by the Jews Liebknecht, Luxembourg and Eisner; the German Cabinet was dominated by the Jews Haase and Landsberg, assisted by the Jews Kautski, Alzech, Kohn and Hertzfeld, with the Jews Schiffer and Bernstein in charge of Finance, and the Jews Preuss and Freund occupying the Secretariat of the Interior. In Prussia, the Ministry of Justice was all Jewish, headed by Rosenfeld; the Interior and Finance Ministries were held respectively by the Jews Hirsch and Simm. In Saxony, the leading lights of the Government were the Jews Lipinski and Schwartz; in Wurttemberg, the Jews Talheimer and Heimann; in Hesse, the Jew Fulda. The Jew Kurt Eisner boasted that he and ten other Jews had made the revolution; Lowenberg, Rosenfeld, Wollheim, Rothschild, Arnold, Kranold, Rosenhek, Birenbaum, Reis and Kaiser. The chiefs of Police of Berlin, Frankfort, Munich and Essen, and the heads of most of the Soldiers' and Workmen's Councils were Jews.

That is why Hitler cleanses Germany of Jews; but you cannot learn that from our Jew‑controlled Press.


BOLSHEVISM WAS JEWISH IN HUNGARY.

The Hungarian Bolshevik Revolution, too, was Jewish. There were only 1½ million Jews in the population of 22 millions, but 18 out of the 26 Commissaries of the Soviet Government in Hungary were Jews. Bela Kun (Cohen) was the Jewish beast who led them.



BOLSHEVISM WAS JEWISH IN CHINA.

The Chinaman is not built for “Communism.” The brigandage which masqueraded under the name of Communism in China, was run from Moscow and the principal agents were the Jews Borodin and Abraham Cohen. Japan will stamp it out; that is why the Jew‑run Press of the world does all it can to discredit Japan in the minds of its readers.



BOLSHEVISM IS JEWISH IN SPAIN.

The Spaniard, too, is not built for “Communism.” But the ground for it was prepared under the Republic by the Jews Zamora, Maura and De los Rios, who controlled the Government just as Kerensky, another Jew, prepared the way, financed by Jacob Schiff, head of the Jew banking firm of Kuhn Loeb & Co. of New York, for the Lenin Government in Russia. It was the Jew Bela Kun, already mentioned above in connection with Hungary, that directed the beheading of priests and the raping of young girls in the streets of Madrid; he and other Jews sent from Russia instigated the outrages that made the great patriot General Franco take up arms to save his country's civilisation. The full story will come out when Franco has won all Spain. Hitler, in his speech on 14th September, 1937, said:—“The great Russian Empire fell a victim to a handful of Jews who in Spain are directing the civil war through the Valencia Government usurpers.” Red Spain has been armed by inter*national Jewry, and even the International Brigade Command has been Jewish, General Kleber's real name being Lazar Fekete‑Schwartz. A very large proportion of the Brigade itself is Jewish, and the American Hebrew, 7th January, 1938, admits that there were 3,000 Jews in it and that one‑third of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade on the Madrid front consists of Jews. The Red Government is nicknamed in Spain the “Committee of Wandering Jews.” Finally, the reason why the British reader is hardly ever able to hear a good word about Franco, and why he hears nothing of the Bolshevik bestiality of the Jewish Reds, is itself Jewish; the Jews govern the Press, the ships that Franco bombs are chiefly Jewish, not British, and even our Consuls in Franco's Spain are Jewish as the names connected with the Consular Bag affair indicate. (See our pam*phlet, Jewish Press Control, 2½d. post free.)



ALWAYS, JEWISH MASONRY HAS PREPARED THE DEBACLE.

That is why Hungary, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Turkey, Poland and other countries have stamped out Masonry. See our pamphlets, Freemasonry (3½d. post free) and The Growing Menace of Freemasonry (4½d. post free).



SUMMARY

Bolshevism is Jewish. Its object is to gain world control for Jews, through the combined and allied forces of Jewish Finance and Jewish Marxism. In Russia, revenge has been the moving factor.

Deling
Wednesday, July 13th, 2005, 04:05 PM
Sounds like nazi-wannabe delirium from some Goebbels propaganda speech anno 1935.

Bolshevism just means greatness, or majority. Difference between Leninism, Sovietism, Communism and Bolshevism is linguistic. Thus National-Bolshevism could just as well be called National-Anarchism, National-Leninism/Stalinism, National-Communism, National-Menshevism a.s.o.

You can't prove that anything is Jewish without knowing what the Jewish is. Jews are people, words are just words.

Nordraserei
Friday, July 22nd, 2005, 11:38 PM
You have to remember, Deling, that certain people are obsessed with Jews. Anything they don't agree with is Jewish and everyone they don't agree with is Jewish.

Deling
Friday, July 22nd, 2005, 11:52 PM
Nordraserei: You're one of a kind saying such things. I wouldn't believe someone who writes "White Power", "Confederate" and has Combat-18 banners in his profile would agree with me on the Jewish question...in this matter. :thumbup

Nordraserei
Friday, July 22nd, 2005, 11:55 PM
Well I'm White Power and all, but I just seriously doubt the Jews control everything. Government, the school systems, etc. I don't think Jews are the problem of the universe. A lot of what happened to America is our fault, not theirs. We brought slaves over, we freed them. We opened our borders for thousands of Mexicans. Our fault. We made our own beds, now we must lie in it.

Nordraserei: You're one of a kind saying such things. I wouldn't believe someone who writes "White Power", "Confederate" and has Combat-18 banners in his profile would agree with me on the Jewish question...in this matter. :thumbup

Deling
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 01:17 AM
Well jews, like all Diaspora people (Kurds, Armenis, Chinese, Indian, Lebanese a.s.o), have a tendency to settle in foreign lands, and eventually bear up the economy of that land. This is why I don't like jews, or Diaspora people: their existence is contrary to Autarchy and socialism.

Regarding 'we', I of course agree. Nothing special about it; all civilisations has followed the pattern the West is moving along, and they all go into history. What could 'we' have done different? Nothing, we're only Time's actors' and actresses'. I just hope our race live to see another day.

invictus
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 04:11 AM
You have to remember, Deling, that certain people are obsessed with Jews. Anything they don't agree with is Jewish and everyone they don't agree with is Jewish.Or maybe they've simply researched it and came to an intelligent conclusion, rather than self-righteously dismissing everything jew-related to such ridiculous notions as "obsession."

http://www2.davidduke.com/index.php?p=135

I suppose the American intelligence contacts that openly said the Bolshevik movement was thoroughly Jewish, or Churchill's claim of the same thing were just things they made up 'cause they too were "obsessed" with Jews.

These smug dismissals of what is merely historical fact are nothing more than conditioned sheepthink.

Nordraserei
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 04:28 AM
I agree with David Duke about not being able to criticize Jews is the ultimate crime nowadays. I just don't really think they're the center of all problems. I've been in the scene for a long time now, and I can personally say it IS like what I said earlier. Everything WP types disagree with is either Jewish or Commie, anyone they don't like is a Jew, a commie, a mud, etc. There certainly is a lot of drama within the WP scene. Sad, but true.

Or maybe they've simply researched it and came to an intelligent conclusion, rather than self-righteously dismissing everything jew-related to such ridiculous notions as "obsession."

http://www2.davidduke.com/index.php?p=135

I suppose the American intelligence contacts that openly said the Bolshevik movement was thoroughly Jewish, or Churchill's claim of the same thing were just things they made up 'cause they too were "obsessed" with Jews.

These smug dismissals of what is merely historical fact are nothing more than conditioned sheepthink.

QuietWind
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 04:46 AM
With enough conspiracy theory, you can connect just about anything to the Jews. Having Jews in the Bolshevik party,and even having Jews fund or support it, hardly makes it Jewish. There are theories and songs about Jesus being a Commie. There are theories about Hitler being a Rothschild (http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/hitler.html).

Basically, who cares? It's like the Nick Berg beheading in Iraq. You can take all the evidence in the world to support the theory that he was really killed by the Americans. Alot of it makes a lot of sense, and when you analyze it all, you can even see where it could have occured as they say. But in the end, when it all comes down to it, no one knows except those involved, and who really cares in the grand scheme of things?

All good lies are based upon truth. Conspiracy theories and history in general is fun to read and can teach a lot of truth. It can also teach a lot of falsehoods. It's good to just keep an open mind and take it all with a grain of salt.

"Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead," Benjamin Franklin.

Dr. Solar Wolff
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 06:36 AM
There is no such thing as Jewish politics. Imagine a fashion show. Jews will wear any fashion that suits the moment, then discard those politics like old clothes, and move on to something which suits their current purposes.

Deling
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 12:06 PM
Jews are people, maybe less than a community than we are, and are of many different classes, with different social backgrounds, cultural experiences a.s.o. So it's not strange that some people see Jews in "capitalism", in "communism", "social-democracy" a.s.o; Gentiles aren't solely liberal or something, just as jews aren't.

What I reacted to with this whole article/thread is the title: "Bolshevism is Jewish". I don't understand the obsession with "bolshevism"; it's really a propaganda name that implies something foreign, something Russian-Asian. Short: barbarism and menace. People in the 30'ties wouldn't react to "marxism" or "social-democracy" or "communism" the way they would react to "Bolshevism".
Lenin's party was called RSDAP(b) by the way; Russian SOCIAL-DEMOCRATIC workers' Party (the Majorities). Not until after the civil war was the all-Union communist party formed.

Lenin was a Social-Democrat. Social-Democrats made the revolution real. Where are the titles "Social-Democracy is Jewish"? Soc-Dems are the greatest political power in Western Europe anyway, not the word "bolshevism", long forgotten by history.

Just my thoughts.

Deling
Saturday, July 23rd, 2005, 12:14 PM
Oh, I forgot...

I read somewhere before that 5 of 7 founders of the Fascist party in Italy were Jewish. Thus Fascism is Jewish, just as NS since originating from Fascism. This site and all on it must be Jewish too... :)

Not to mention Racism is Jewish, according to history books about the origins of Western Racism; blood-fanaticism a la Christendom 'originated' in Spain, carried on by Jewish convertites (like Torquemada) who zealously wanted to prove their new faith, and incorporated the jewish idea of blood and spiritual purity into their theology.

ogenoct
Monday, November 27th, 2006, 06:19 PM
JEWISH BOLSHEVISM: EUROPEAN LIBERATION

by Constantin von Hoffmeister


"Israel was invented and founded by Red Zionists geopolitically as part of Eurasia, from the beginning oriented towards the Eurasian continent and developed as a Red proletarian communal republic. We, the National Bolsheviks of Israel, see our global mission in the resurrection and reworking of the idea of very great social justice for the Workers of Zion in the context of an interconnection with Russian National Bolshevism and the construction of a single imperial state free from the tyranny of globalism."
-- National Bolshevik Party Israel

The Jews were certainly overrepresented in the Soviet government. But this fact is utterly irrelevant and meaningless. These brave Jews divorced themselves from their reactionary religion and embraced European socialism (Russian Bolshevism), thus automatically becoming honorary Aryans. Hence, the Bolshevik Jews were not bad Jews but good Europeans (in the Nietzschean sense as like all true overmen they overcame their own former selves, morphing into something new, noble and self-sacrificing). It was, is and will always be preferable to collaborate with Jewish socialists. "White" capitalists are the mortal enemies of the White race while Jewish socialists actively undermine a power structure that not only keeps them disenfranchised but also the majority population (the White race). Hence, Jewish Bolsheviks and their European socialist brothers should work actively together to smash the capitalist exploiter beasts wherever and whenever they can! HAIL the Jewish Bolsheviks! Only traitors to Europe do not appreciate the hard work that they did for the betterment of our race. The accomplishments of the Jewish Bolsheviks will always be remembered by any self-respecting European patriot.

The 300 Jewish commissars defended the populist integrity of the workers' democracy. They saved an empire. 300 Jews = 300 Spartans!

How did Nietzsche view the Jews? As a potential ruling aristocracy for Europe?

Is Stalingrad a Jewish-European acropolis, commemorating the red Jewish rulers and their faithful red European followers (soldiers under the banner of the Semitic Viking liberator of Hyperborea: Lenin, aka Ilyich the bladed hammer)? I will from now on claim that it is. We must honor the memory of our former Jewish masters. A crimson candelabra would be suitable, next to the monument of the Kalashnikov-wielding super-soldier.

HAIL the Communist Jews! Good Europeans most of them... HAIL Markus Wolf and the Sword and Shield of the Party: the Stasi!

Some Jews supported the Russian Revolution to liberate the Russian population from the yoke of the Asiatic Tsar while others chose to side with the anti-European capitalist West that came to aid the Asiatic Tsarist regime. Alexander Dugin's argument is sound: The Bolshevik Jews that sometimes even sacrificed their own lives to aid the Russian people were spiritually connected with the ethnic Russians that fought for the same goal. Dugin is absolutely correct in distinguishing good Jews from bad Jews. It is retarded to throw all Jews into the same pot, declaring them enemies of Europe. After all, historical evidence suggests otherwise. Besides, many Jews were and are Europeans, both culturally and racially. For example, Heinrich Heine was a Jew, and he was DEFINITELY European. Was Karl Marx non-European? No. Was Gustav Mahler non-European? No. Was Baruch Spinoza non-European? No. Jews as a group are not the enemy. Capitalist exploiter Jews are the enemy, just like capitalist exploiter Whites are. Anti-Semitism is anti-Imperialism for crippled minds. Judaism as a religion is also more compatible with Europe since Christianity, still the majority religion of Europe, is directly derived from it. Islam, on the other hand, is violently anti-European, in every fibre of its Arabic construct. I cannot imagine Wagner being performed and admired in Saudi Arabia. Wagner, however, was and is performed and admired in Israel. A lot of Jews look more Nordic (i.e. pure Aryan) than Mediterraneans do. If a certain percentage of Jews cannot be considered European, then neither can a large percentage of Mediterraneans.

Islam is a reactionary religion. Israel is a secular state and therefore indefinitely more progressive than the Islamic "republics" surrounding it. Most Jews in Israel (and elsewhere) are non-religious while most Arabs in the Middle East (and elsewhere) are religious fanatics. Why a socialist should support religious fanatics instead of rational secularists is beyond me. Israel (not Palestine as Palestine does not exist and never has) can become a beacon of socialism in the world. This is why it is necessary that Israel orient itself towards a National Bolshevik Eurasia instead of towards a capitalist liberalist AmeriKa. The National Bolshevik Party of Israel as well as several other organizations (including Bead Arzeynu) are trying to push Israel in exactly that direction. Only Israel can guarantee socialist stability in the Middle East, if necessary by force. After all, it has been conclusively proven that Muslims are incapable of uniting themselves, for whatever cause. Muslims are by nature tribal and factional while Jews (in Israel) believe in democratic centralism, the hallmark of a successful socialist state. Jews are more industrious than Arabs as well. This is why Israel will remain an industrialized labor nation while Muslim nations will revert to their medieval (and natural) state of tribal and nomadic desert communities. While Israel looks towards the future, Muslims long to live in the past. Besides all that, it is clear that Israel is an outpost of Europe, both culturally and at least partly racially, while the Muslim nations in the Middle East are the sworn enemies of Europe.

Israel is a racialist state which is superior to a nationalist state. If Israel was only a nationalist state, it should have no problem assimilating its Arab minority. But since Arabs are a different ethnicity than most Jews, Israel adamantly resists assimilating them. This is a good thing. Actually, to civilize the Middle East, Israel should extend its boundaries from the Nile to the Euphrates. All non-Jewish citizens would thereby fall under de facto "protection" and would thus be easier to control. Of course, for this to happen, Israel must look towards Eurasia and not towards AmeriKa. Only in a federal Eurasian empire can Israel fulfill its destiny as a future world power.


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Taras Bulba
Monday, November 27th, 2006, 06:27 PM
Welcome back ogenoct!



In my sincere opinion, Globalisation, White Nationalism, and National-Bolshevism are the three heads of the same monster. They fight against the independence of the European nations.

I agree, even within the American context WN makes no sense. It bases itself off a largely non-existant and artifical identity for Americans of European descent. Hence why it's not going to go anywhere. Nationalism only works when based on an actual heritage.

Among whites, there are basically two identities: the older WASP identity and the "new ethnic" identity that has emerged among descendents of European immigrants that arrived during the Ellis Island phase. They're not necessarily opposed to each other , but they cant be namelessly merged together.

Of course there are ideological differences I have with WNs, but I dont want to derail the topic.

Galaico
Monday, November 27th, 2006, 06:59 PM
Constantin I always read your articles and find them very interesting, but I'm afraid that as I read more about National Bolshevism, or your own variant, National Futurism, I get more convinced that I am a complete anti-Nationalbolshevick.

National-Bolshevism represents some of the things I hate more:

It breaks down the European tradition and beliefs, substituing the real nation by adoration to an artifitial Soviet Empire. It doesn't represent freedom for the European peoples, but the oppression of all them, were the state crashes the individual rights.

The hierarchical organisation, which is not only the traditional way for Europe but for the whole of humanity, it's substituted by a fake idea of equalitarism, helping those in the high sphere to dominate and oppress the rest of the people, by destroying individual intelligence and innovation.

Not to say that National-Bolshevism is based in the ideas of the sickest people and bigger assassins who have ever stepped their foot on Earth.

And now you start talking about how much Europeans owe to Zionism, Jews, and Israel. It even sounds sarcastic that a Bolshevick praises to the biggest ally of Capitalist USA.

In my sincere opinion, Globalisation, White Nationalism, and National-Bolshevism are the three heads of the same monster. They fight against the independence of the European nations.

Globalisation uses Capitalism and mass-migration, White Nationalism the desire of one White nation (thus, destruction of the present nations) and the mixture of all Europeans and Euro-colonials, the most fanatic WN's even talk about union with Turks, Iranians, Kurds, Berbers, etc., and NB's want to stablish the Red Empire that would destroy not only the independence of Europe's nations but the destruction of freedom and individual rights.

A good Nationalist can never be a WN, a Capitalist, or a National-Bolshevick, because they represent the destruction of Europe and European tradition.

ogenoct
Monday, November 27th, 2006, 07:20 PM
It breaks down the European tradition and beliefs, substituing the real nation by adoration to an artifitial Soviet Empire. It doesn't represent freedom for the European peoples, but the oppression of all them, were the state crashes the individual rights.

That is not true. What gave you that idea? Besides, in the Soviet empire, national traditions were upheld and cherished.


The hierarchical organisation, which is not only the traditional way for Europe but for the whole of humanity, it's substituted by a fake idea of equalitarism, helping those in the high sphere to dominate and oppress the rest of the people, by destroying individual intelligence and innovation.

Again, that is not true. National Bolshevism does not believe in egalitarianism. It is hierarchical.


Not to say that National-Bolshevism is based in the ideas of the sickest people and bigger assassins who have ever stepped their foot on Earth.

Who were the "sickest people and bigger assassins who have ever stepped their foot on Earth"? Genghis Khan and his horde? National Bolshevism is not a Mongol ideology but a European one.


And now you start talking about how much Europeans owe to Zionism, Jews, and Israel. It even sounds sarcastic that a Bolshevick praises to the biggest ally of Capitalist USA.

I never said that Europeans owe anything to Zionists or Israel. I said Europeans owe something to the BOLSHEVIK Jews. I am against a capitalist AmeriKa and a capitalist Israel. I am in favor of a socialist AmeriKa and a socialist Israel. Just because Israel is capitalist NOW does not mean that it cannot become socialist AGAIN in the future. What about capitalist Europe? I am not anti-European either because Europe TODAY is capitalist.


In my sincere opinion, Globalisation, White Nationalism, and National-Bolshevism are the three heads of the same monster. They fight against the independence of the European nations.

European nations must be crushed, so that the European empire can be born.


A good Nationalist can never be a WN, a Capitalist, or a National-Bolshevick, because they represent the destruction of Europe and European tradition.

I am against nationalists. I am not a good nationalist. I am a good European. A nationalist cannot be a good European.

Constantin

Galaico
Monday, November 27th, 2006, 08:31 PM
That is not true. What gave you that idea? Besides, in the Soviet empire, national traditions were upheld and cherished.Well, 80 years of Red Terror and population displacements.


Again, that is not true. National Bolshevism does not believe in egalitarianism. It is hierarchical. Then it breaks with traditional Bolshevism, as that is one of the main differences between Marxist socialism and European socialism.


Who were the "sickest people and bigger assassins who have ever stepped their foot on Earth"? Genghis Khan and his horde? National Bolshevism is not a Mongol ideology but a European one. Not Genghis, but Stalin, Lenin, Mao and other communists.

If National-Bolshevism is not a Mongol ideology how are you going to build your eurAsian Empire? Using Stalin’s genocide methods?


I never said that Europeans owe anything to Zionists or Israel. I said Europeans owe something to the BOLSHEVIK Jews. Yes, we owe them death, war, hunger, poverty, oppression, occupation, etc.


I am against a capitalist AmeriKa and a capitalist Israel. I am in favor of a socialist AmeriKa and a socialist Israel. Just because Israel is capitalist NOW does not mean that it cannot become socialist AGAIN in the future. What about capitalist Europe? I am not anti-European either because Europe TODAY is capitalist. Well I’m against both kinds of Imperialism, doesn’t matter if it is Marxist or Capitalist. I don’t have anything against America as such, I just try to focus in my own country, we have enough problems. As for Israel, well, I don’t believe in artificial states.


European nations must be crushed, so that the European empire can be born. Sick ideologies must be destroyed in order that Europe can live. Europe has never been and will never be a centralised state, Europeans will never accept it. I believe in European intra-collaboration, perhaps a Confederation, but forget about useless Empires.


I am against nationalists. I am not a good nationalist. I am a good European. A nationalist cannot be a good European. Only a Nationalist can be a good European.

ogenoct
Tuesday, November 28th, 2006, 01:38 PM
Well, 80 years of Red Terror and population displacements.

Nonsense propaganda...


Using Stalin’s genocide methods?

Stalin did not use "genocide methods." That was Hitler in case you forgot.


Yes, we owe them death, war, hunger, poverty, oppression, occupation, etc.

No, we owe them free health care, free education, free housing and the first European in space.


As for Israel, well, I don’t believe in artificial states.

Which state is not artificial?


I believe in European intra-collaboration, perhaps a Confederation, but forget about useless Empires.

A real empire is a federation. Read my essay EMPIRE AGAINST EMPIRE for more on this topic:

http://forums.skadi.net/empire_against_empire-t36714.html

Constantin

ogenoct
Sunday, December 10th, 2006, 06:03 PM
"Moreover, in the darkest times of the Middle Ages, when the Asiatic cloud masses had gathered heavily over Europe, it was Jewish free-thinkers, scholars, and physicians who clung to the banner of enlightenment and spiritual independence in the face of the harshest personal pressures and defended Europe against Asia. We owe it to their exertions, not least of all, that a more natural, more rational, and certainly unmythical explanation of the world was eventually able to triumph again, and that the bond of culture which now links us with the enlightenment of Greco-Roman antiquity remained unbroken. If Christianity has done everything to orientalize the Occident, Judaism has helped significantly to occidentalize it again and again: in a certain sense this means as much as making Europe's task and history a continuation of the Greek."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche, HUMAN, ALL TOO HUMAN

Taras Bulba
Sunday, December 10th, 2006, 07:41 PM
"Moreover, in the darkest times of the Middle Ages, when the Asiatic cloud masses had gathered heavily over Europe, it was Jewish free-thinkers, scholars, and physicians who clung to the banner of enlightenment and spiritual independence in the face of the harshest personal pressures and defended Europe against Asia. We owe it to their exertions, not least of all, that a more natural, more rational, and certainly unmythical explanation of the world was eventually able to triumph again, and that the bond of culture which now links us with the enlightenment of Greco-Roman antiquity remained unbroken. If Christianity has done everything to orientalize the Occident, Judaism has helped significantly to occidentalize it again and again: in a certain sense this means as much as making Europe's task and history a continuation of the Greek."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche, HUMAN, ALL TOO HUMAN


OMG I dont even know where to begin to refute this nonsense. Despite my newfound admiration for Nietzsche(at least in some respects), excerpts like these help confirm my older assestment of not taking him too seriously!

Peter
Sunday, January 28th, 2007, 09:40 AM
What an stupid Nietzsche´s sentence

sheriff skullface
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 06:14 PM
"Moreover, in the darkest times of the Middle Ages, when the Asiatic cloud masses had gathered heavily over Europe, it was Jewish free-thinkers, scholars, and physicians who clung to the banner of enlightenment and spiritual independence in the face of the harshest personal pressures and defended Europe against Asia. We owe it to their exertions, not least of all, that a more natural, more rational, and certainly unmythical explanation of the world was eventually able to triumph again, and that the bond of culture which now links us with the enlightenment of Greco-Roman antiquity remained unbroken. If Christianity has done everything to orientalize the Occident, Judaism has helped significantly to occidentalize it again and again: in a certain sense this means as much as making Europe's task and history a continuation of the Greek."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche, HUMAN, ALL TOO HUMAN

while not very familiar with the middle ages I do know this, as christianity first purged its way into europe destorying the traditional old order and commiting genocide against pagans, a few minority hidden groups of messianic jews were relaxing and problobly laughing at this(long before the inquistion got rid of them) also as I remember it was not jewish freethinkers but the Teutonic and Templar knights who saved europe from Asiatic hordes, also all I can remember of what jewish thinkers, scholars and physicians gave us since the middle ages have been basically,cocaine, the urge by modern psychology to cure everthing(even imaigned mental problems) with drugs, humanistic opinions and theories based on so called "science"(actually a godless seculear version of christian philosophy)