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Blutwölfin
Wednesday, January 3rd, 2007, 07:06 PM
President Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe, which has mounted a six-year campaign to seize white-owned farms, is poised to allow hundreds of white farmers to return to their land as the country faces starvation and economic collapse.

"There could be some 300 whites back on farms by the end of next year," Sam Moyo, a government land adviser, told the Guardian. "Most of them will be running commercial farms."

Since November, 19 white farmers who lost ownership of their land have been granted 99-year, government-backed leases on resettled farms in a spectacular U-turn by Mr Mugabe.

President Robert Mugabe's regime in Zimbabwe, which has mounted a six-year campaign to seize white-owned farms, is poised to allow hundreds of white farmers to return to their land as the country faces starvation and economic collapse.

"There could be some 300 whites back on farms by the end of next year," Sam Moyo, a government land adviser, told the Guardian. "Most of them will be running commercial farms."

Since November, 19 white farmers who lost ownership of their land have been granted 99-year, government-backed leases on resettled farms in a spectacular U-turn by Mr Mugabe.

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On a commercial farm lying off a clay-dirt road just outside the town of Kadoma, 74 miles from the capital, Harare, Jim Boethe described how he had been invited back to his land.

"When land-reform started we had nearly 1,000 hectares growing maize," he said. "It was divided up [by the government] and now we only have 100. But we are happy to be back - we applied for the lease and are waiting for it to be signed."

In July 2005 Mr Mugabe declared that his land reform policy would be complete only when there was "not a single white on the farms". But a contracting economy, hyperinflation touching 1,100% and food shortages have forced the authorities to allow some interested whites to return.

"We had to demonstrate to the government that we were going to be productive ... growing food for local markets and not just for export. We grow maize, sweet potatoes and tomatoes and export our paprika," Mr Boethe explained.

The land minister, Flora Buka, said the government had received more than 200 applications so far from whites to take up farming again. There are only about 600 white farmers left in Zimbabwe, down from 4,500 six years ago.

After Mr Mugabe was defeated in a referendum on Zimbabwe's constitution in 1999, the government decided to "fast-track" land reform in order to win over a hostile electorate. The process resulted in farm seizures by supporters of the ruling Zanu-PF party, spearheaded by landless veterans of the country's war for independence.

The UN-funded World Food Programme has said that 2 million Zimbabweans will need food aid in the next six months despite improved agricultural output last season.

But the welcoming back of white farmers may be too little too late.

"We know other farmers that have gone elsewhere - Australia, South Africa, even Nigeria. We looked at a farm in neighbouring Zambia too, just to keep our options open," said Mr Boethe. "People have very little foreign exchange to buy inputs now - so a lot of the land is just idle."

Critics say the new 99-year leases won't do much to boost productivity and, given recent farm appropriations by government, farmers will be reluctant to invest.

The government is more bullish, arguing that now land reform has been consolidated - with some 150,000 people resettled on to farms, according to official figures - yields will begin to increase.

But the move comes amid deepening crisis in the country, with Mr Mugabe having announced plans to "harmonise" presidential elections - scheduled for 2008 - with the parliamentary poll in 2010.

The government says the plan will save money, but critics say it is the first move towards prolonging Mr Mugabe's rule indefinitely. These fears were fuelled when the land minister, Didymus Mutasa, recently suggested Mr Mugabe should be made president for life.

The proposal has infuriated Zanu moderates, who were hoping Mr Mugabe would retire and give a new government a chance to rebuild bridges with western donors who have suspended aid.

The proposal has also inflamed a succession struggle after Mr Mugabe's decision in 2004 to appoint Joyce Mujuru, a relative political lightweight, as his deputy - a post seen as a stepping stone for the top job. Ms Mujuru, who owns several farms, is competing with the rural housing minister, Emmerson Mnangagwa, for Mr Mugabe's blessing.



Source (http://www.guardian.co.uk/zimbabwe/article/0,,1982144,00.html)

DoctorWolff
Thursday, January 4th, 2007, 04:41 PM
A farmer that goes back to Zim after everything that has happened must be an idiot. In ten years time when Zim's are fed and able to buy petrol you will see their appreciation when they kick those farmers out.

That's the lesson in african gratitude. Just look at all the farm murders, the farmers aren't murdered by strangers but by workers on their farm and their kids whom they have clothed and fed! Talking about biting the hand that feeds you!

ladybright
Friday, September 28th, 2007, 10:51 PM
I know that this in not about South Africa but nevertheless this seemed like a good place for this article. This boggles my mind. I had not thought that there was much left for Mugabe to do to ruin the economy but I was wrong.


HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) -- Whites in Zimbabwe found themselves a step closer Thursday to losing control of their businesses to blacks under new government legislation.

The legislation has yet to be approved by the ruling party and signed into law by Robert Mugabe.

The ruling ZANU-PF party in the Parliament in Harare approved the Indigenization and Economic Empowerment Bill on Wednesday night. The proposed law calls for whites to hand over 51 percent of their business interests to blacks.

Opposition lawmakers walked out of the late parliament sitting during acrimonious debate, saying the bill was racist, unconstitutional and against accepted principles of equality.

The legislation has yet to be approved by the ruling party-dominated upper house, or Senate, and signed into law by President Robert Mugabe, its main architect. Those formalities are expected to be completed within a month, parliament officials said. Legal formalities afterward could take months.

The step recalled the government's order in 2000 that more than 5,000 white-owned commercial farms be seized -- in some cases, amid violence -- and handed over to blacks. The agriculture-based economy of the former regional breadbasket went into free fall after land redistribution began. The nation is now facing chronic shortages of food, basic goods and gasoline.

The move on white businesses "is scary. It's the farms all over again. What next, our homes?" said the white owner of a small engineering firm. He spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of drawing the attention of a government that has jailed and beaten critics.

"Keep me out of this or I'll be the first on the list. I'd be out of here if I could," said the Zimbabwe-born businessman. He said he was looking for a black partner for the family firm but "it breaks my heart. I spent my life building the business for my kids and keeping it in the family. It was my pension plan."

On Tuesday, Paul Mangwana, the minister in charge of black empowerment, said only whites "disadvantaged by the colonial system" before independence in 1980 were defined under the bill as "indigenous" Zimbabweans who would be allowed to keep majority control of businesses.

"The bill is not about economics, but politics. It is about the total liberation of Zimbabwe," he told a panel of lawmakers Tuesday. "All blacks fall within the definition of indigenous."

In the parliament Wednesday, he dismissed accusations the legislation was racist. He said the wording deliberately avoided use of the words "white" or "black."

Like the farm takeovers, the bill was to correct colonial era imbalances in business ownership by the white minority, the official media quoted Mangwana saying.

"If a white person wants to start a business he should partner with indigenous persons. We are not stopping anyone from starting a business. It is not racism to correct wrong things," he said.

Lawyers said whites who argued they were disadvantaged or discriminated against under colonial era white rule so as to qualify as indigenous were unlikely to win any court challenges to keep their businesses.

Since independence, white political activists and even conscientious objectors who refused to fight against black guerrillas in the bush war that ended white rule have not been favored in citizenship cases.

An estimated 30,000 whites still live in the population of 12.5 million, down from about 275,000 at independence.

The state central bank reported earlier this year a fivefold drop in foreign direct investment and loans in the crumbling economy since 2000, with concerns over the farm seizures, ownership rights and human and democratic rights violations being mainly cited by foreign businesses and financial institutions.

In the economic meltdown, official inflation stands at nearly 7,000 percent, the highest in the world. Independent estimates put real inflation closer to 25,000 percent and the International Monetary Fund has forecast it reaching 100,000 percent by the end of the year.
Source (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/09/28/zimbabwe.business.ap/)

Witta
Wednesday, March 31st, 2010, 09:48 PM
Dispossessed white farmers in Zimbabwe have struck back through the South African courts by seizing a property in Cape Town owned by Robert Mugabe’s government.

The house has been attached by the sheriff’s office after a South African court ruled that it could be sold and the proceeds given to the farmers. “We see it as a way to send out a message to show the Zimbabwean government that there are certain consequences to their abuse of human rights,” said Willie Spies, the farmers’ lawyer.

Four houses in Cape Town have been identified so far. Their value is insignificant relative to the evicted landowners’ compensation claims but they believe the judgments have huge symbolic importance.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4abf49dc-3cda-11df-bbcf-00144feabdc0.html

Rooikat
Saturday, April 3rd, 2010, 12:39 PM
Maybe there should be an international investigation into Robert Mugabe and his henchmen. The Riches they stole will not be in a Zimbabwean Bank. Seize all their foreign assets.

RoyBatty
Saturday, April 3rd, 2010, 05:27 PM
Maybe there should be an international investigation into Robert Mugabe and his henchmen. The Riches they stole will not be in a Zimbabwean Bank. Seize all their foreign assets.

That's a good start.

Then the investigation can be expanded into the domestic and foreign owners of the mining companies in South Africa and Zimbabwe, the weapons dealers and politicians who broker deals for the Mugabes of this world and defrauds the South African taxpayers and so on.

There are so many crooks to investigate, prosecute, sentence and strip of their ill-gotten gains. Where would it ever end?

Bedford Brown
Sunday, April 4th, 2010, 04:44 AM
Yes. there will be an end...Shoot Mugabe, and take all the land, and businesses you believe are involved, and form another white government...Peace will not come through voting. Peace will come out the end of a barrel. :D

Nachtengel
Wednesday, May 24th, 2017, 06:10 PM
Source Your News Wire

Crisis-hit Zimbabwe is begging the white farmers they forcibly evicted to return and reclaim their farms, as the southern African nation’s economy continues to deteriorate.

This comes fifteen years after the Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwean government seized large swaths of land from white farmers in the country – a move that saw a drastic deterioration in the country’s economy.

According to The Telegraph, Minister of Lands Douglas Mombeshora said provincial leaders had been tasked to come up with names of white farmers they wanted to remain on their farms. The farms should be “of strategic economic importance“.

“We have asked provinces to give us the names of white farmers they want to remain on farms so that we can give them security of tenure documents to enable them to plan their operations properly,” Mombeshora said.

Compensation process

The report said those who benefitted from the land grabs will in future be expected to pay a small rental per acre, which will be used to pay compensation to evicted white farmers.

Fin24 reported late last year that Mugabe’s administration was willing to compensate white farmers and to clarify its indigenisation laws

News24 reports that Mugabe and his Zanu-PF party launched the land reforms in 2000, taking over white-owned farms to resettle landless blacks. Mugabe said the reforms were meant to correct colonial land ownership imbalances.

At least 4000 white commercial farmers were evicted from their farms.

The land seizures were often violent, claiming the lives of several white farmers during clashes with veterans of Zimbabwe’s 1970s liberation struggle.

Critics of the reforms have blamed the programme for low production on the farms as the majority of the beneficiaries lacked the means and skills to work the land.

History repeats

The news comes as South Africa threatens to follow in Zimbabwe’s doomed footsteps in kicking white farmers off their land.

South Africa is teetering on the brink of a race war after President Jacob Zuma called on parliament to pass a law allowing white-owned land to be “confiscated” by blacks without any form of compensation.

The president’s comments caused outrage among white landowners, with the chairman of a national group for Afrikaans speaking farmers warning the new law will be “a declaration of war.”

“We are ready to fight back,” said Andries Breytenbach, the group’s chairman. “We need urgent mediation between us and the government. If this starts, it will turn into a racial war which we want to prevent.”

The Telegraph report: Mr Zuma has lurched from one scandal to another since being elected to office in 2009, and has adopted a more populist tone since his ruling African National Congress (ANC) party suffered its worst election result last August since the end of apartheid in 1994.

The party lost the economic hub of Johannesburg, the capital Pretoria and the coastal city of Port Elizabeth to the moderate Democratic Alliance party, which already held the city of Cape Town.

The ANC is also under pressure from the radical Economic Freedom Fighters, led by Julius Malema.

Mr Malema has been travelling the country urging black South Africans to take back land from white invaders and “Dutch thugs”.

He told parliament this week that his party wanted to “unite black people in South Africa” to expropriate land without compensation.

“People of South Africa, where you see a beautiful land, take it, it belongs to you,” he said. Although progress has been made in transferring property to black South Africans, land ownership is believed to be skewed in favour of whites more than 20 years after the end of apartheid.

Mr Zuma’s comments caused outrage among groups representing Afrikaans speaking farmers on Friday.

The Boer Afrikaner Volksraad, which claims to have 40,000 members, said its members would take land expropriation without compensation as “a declaration of war”.

“We are ready to fight back,” said Andries Breytenbach, the group’s chairman. “We need urgent mediation between us and the government. If this starts, it will turn into a racial war which we want to prevent.”
http://www.smashculturalmarxism.com/zimbabwe-begs-white-farmers-return-country-plunges-famine/

RoyBatty
Wednesday, May 24th, 2017, 07:21 PM
South Africa is teetering on the brink of a race war after President Jacob Zuma called on parliament to pass a law allowing white-owned land to be “confiscated” by blacks without any form of compensation.

The Boer Afrikaner Volksraad, which claims to have 40,000 members, said its members would take land expropriation without compensation as “a declaration of war”.

“We are ready to fight back,” said Andries Breytenbach, the group’s chairman. “We need urgent mediation between us and the government. If this starts, it will turn into a racial war which we want to prevent.”

They're living in a dream world. It's not going to be a very long fight and it's going to be pretty lonely.

They have zero, zilch allies.
They have zero, zilch outside support and friendly countries willing to lend a hand.

At the first signs of them putting up even token resistance they'll be crucified in the Globalist jew-media and Western countries will, if necessary, be sure to assist and aid black terrorists against these Whites. Not even other Whites in South Africa will do anything for them.

And by themselves they're not going to last very long against the combined onslaught.

Ocko
Saturday, May 27th, 2017, 04:58 AM
Boers are pretty hardy. It seems they rather die with a gun in the hand then be murdered by negroes.

Nationalism is on a sharp rise in all Jew controlled countries, they may get more support from ordinary people, as most governments are the enemies of the people.

They might just be the first nationalist to start a civil racial war.

Most Jew controlled countries are a powder keg, one spark and the whole Jew global dictatorship blows apart.

The official Jew media has no more credibility, negroes are having a bad reputation now in Europe and selling the killing of White people by evil negroes might be a hard thing to do.

White South Africa had a pretty good connection to Israel, don't know what that means. A negro SA might mean a loss for them. Negroes might not stop for Jews. Negroes believe they are white and as dumb as they are they will kill Jews too.

RoyBatty
Saturday, May 27th, 2017, 08:39 AM
White South Africa had a pretty good connection to Israel, don't know what that means.

The Apartheid era NP Government indeed had good working relations with Israel. However, don't lose sight of the fact that 99.999% of Israel firster shitliberals in South Africa have supported the ANC and Black Nationalist movements since at least the early 1900's.

These same Jews participated in helping the ANC and like-minded organisations bomb civilians and create terror throughout the country.

The Boers were good fighters but the British soon became bored of waging war against them and simply rounded up the Boer civilians into death camps where they killed 10 000's of them. That ended the war and the resistance.

Do you really think that the Blacks would be any more merciful than the British, or that the Europeans (including Britain) and the USA wouldn't reinforce the Blacks militarily, economically, politically and socially to exterminate any White Resistance?

Unless some kind of sneaky side-deal is brokered with a major foreign power who will provide a degree of assistance and cover, any notions of armed resistance are terminally doomed.

Ocko
Saturday, May 27th, 2017, 02:41 PM
The world is changing rapidly, which make it unpredictable.

A lot of boers emigrated and most likely will support them.

Some groups will support them.

Even the 'Netherlanders' changed.

There is a global turning point approaching, you see it everywhere.

Defenders of white people pop up everywhere.

I could see it even in my family which had been a total brainwashed loss.

Given that Zimbabwe asked the white farmers coming back, it seems even the dumbest blacks learn after 40 years of applied dumbness, that they can't survive without whites. They literally die by hunger, their economy is bankrupt.

My own brother is working with a black Christian group in SA (it's paid for by the German government otherwise he wouldn't) and feeds me all the glorious news about the new SA and how blacks learn. Well, I don't believe the propaganda but it seems there are also somewhat reasonable blacks who don't want civil war either.

The ANC got big losses at the last election, so I don't know where SA is heading.

Ocko
Saturday, May 27th, 2017, 02:51 PM
With states governments being destroyed everywhere nationalist groups emerge everywhere, and they are trending into the tougher direction as a defense.

Governments are the enemy of their people, that means the people look for connections to groups as their guiding.

I guess that's why nationalists become stronger and connect across not existing borders.

The concept of Globalists is exceedingly failing in making a conformist global society.

Many groups are hostile to governments and the Boers might right fit in.

RoyBatty
Sunday, May 28th, 2017, 08:02 AM
The world is changing rapidly, which make it unpredictable.

A lot of boers emigrated and most likely will support them.

Some groups will support them.



The people who make a point and go out of their way to identify as "Boers" today don't usually emigrate. They're the ones who stay, hence why they're launching into fighting talk. If you need some insight into these types and their mentality, there are a little knitting circle of them on Storm Front.

Dealing with them is a bit like dealing with the awkward and annoying lunatic fringe of hardcore rednecks. They're prone to endless infighting, they more or less hate all foreigners (incl. almost all other Whites who they consider to be racial/cultural apostates), they're stubborn to the point of stupidity, they are politically naive, they're set in their ways. They're a waste of time to deal with.

Many of them fancy themselves as being ethnic Germans (not Germanics, big difference to them!!!). They even hate some of the Germanic groups who are represented on Skadi. The "Germans" they identify as don't exist today. These ones disappeared with the Kaiser and later the 3d Reich.

Who will support them? I really don't know of anybody worth mentioning. I mean.... who out there supports, even knows about a bunch of backward, isolationist hard nuts? They don't even have much support amongst other Whites in SA! Some amongst them are more agreeable and easier to deal with but all in all we're talking small numbers.

Their plans and ambitions are also completely unrealistic. They live inland surrounded by and outnumbered by enormous numbers of hostiles. They are cut off from access to the sea. They don't want to consider relocating and giving up their historical territory etc etc. It's hopeless.




Even the 'Netherlanders' changed.


The Dutch haven't changed much, if at all. They're still electing the same establishment politicians flooding their country with Maroccoons, Turks, Surinamers and whatever else they can dredge up from the 3d World.



There is a global turning point approaching, you see it everywhere.


I'm not seeing it. The vast majority of Whites are sheeple parrotting whatever the Televitz tells them. Sure there is a little bit more whining about the political and social status quo's but not nearly enough to shake the foundations of ZOG's control over Europe or North America.



Defenders of white people pop up everywhere.


It's still chump change compared to the main stream.



I could see it even in my family which had been a total brainwashed loss.


Congratulations, but it's going to take a hell of a lot more.



Given that Zimbabwe asked the white farmers coming back, it seems even the dumbest blacks learn after 40 years of applied dumbness, that they can't survive without whites. They literally die by hunger, their economy is bankrupt.


Negro logic is something magical to behold. Just as soon as those farmers are back and settled in they'll be raped, robbed and chased out again because they are exploiting and stealing from the black man.

Typical Negro logic works like this:

"Boss I'm hungry please help give me food give me money, I am suffering, my family are starving blah blah"

and at the first next opportunity after being fed and paid

"Whites are stealing our land, exploiting us, Whites caused this disaster and brought hardships on us"




My own brother is working with a black Christian group in SA (it's paid for by the German government otherwise he wouldn't) and feeds me all the glorious news about the new SA and how blacks learn. Well, I don't believe the propaganda but it seems there are also somewhat reasonable blacks who don't want civil war either.


For sure, there are OK and reasonable Blacks out there, but overall they are a pestilence to deal with. The only method that works is to reward the few who are actually of some use, to put them in charge and to control the rest with an iron fist. In this day and age such methods would be deemed "inhumane" and "an affront to their dignity and human rights".




The ANC got big losses at the last election, so I don't know where SA is heading.

It's heading to rock bottom in a downward spiral. As unbelievable as this may sound, the ANC are the least of the evils which South Africa are facing. Malema's mob of radicals are making significant political gains, at the expense of the ANC. This again motivates the ANC to become more radicalised themselves, in order to try to compete with and slow the loss of support to Malema.

The other large political faction is the DA, which is popular amongst White voters and urbanised and professional / educated class Blacks. The DA are a jewish controlled party, roughly equivalent to the US Democrat Party. They're scum but at least they're not the nightmare Mugabe scenario and experience - which is what Malema will be offering.

Whites still stuck in South Africa need to prepare themselves for hard times or get out while they still can. And North Americans and Europeans either need to wake up and turn around their countries before it's too late and conditions deteriorate to South African levels, or prepare for the same kind of downward spiral which is surely coming.

Sawyer
Sunday, May 28th, 2017, 11:39 PM
The people who make a point and go out of their way to identify as "Boers" today don't usually emigrate. They're the ones who stay, hence why they're launching into fighting talk. If you need some insight into these types and their mentality, there are a little knitting circle of them on Storm Front.

Dealing with them is a bit like dealing with the awkward and annoying lunatic fringe of hardcore rednecks. They're prone to endless infighting, they more or less hate all foreigners (incl. almost all other Whites who they consider to be racial/cultural apostates), they're stubborn to the point of stupidity, they are politically naive, they're set in their ways. They're a waste of time to deal with.

Many of them fancy themselves as being ethnic Germans (not Germanics, big difference to them!!!). They even hate some of the Germanic groups who are represented on Skadi. The "Germans" they identify as don't exist today. These ones disappeared with the Kaiser and later the 3d Reich.

Who will support them? I really don't know of anybody worth mentioning. I mean.... who out there supports, even knows about a bunch of backward, isolationist hard nuts? They don't even have much support amongst other Whites in SA! Some amongst them are more agreeable and easier to deal with but all in all we're talking small numbers.

Their plans and ambitions are also completely unrealistic. They live inland surrounded by and outnumbered by enormous numbers of hostiles. They are cut off from access to the sea. They don't want to consider relocating and giving up their historical territory etc etc. It's hopeless.

I've seen a bit of this on other internet forums. I hope it's just restricted to the internet. It's very strange because, being Australian, I have a lot of exposure to South African expats post-1994. A lot of my friends growing up were born there. From memory, most of them had Dutch or French last names. I do know a couple of Anglo-South Africans, but to us they were all just "South Africans". Although obviously the more Afrikaner ones had preferences for more unique things like Boerewors and called a barbecue a "braai". But as a whole, they really weren't much different from anyone else. This is probably an unpleasant fact for the more hardcore Boer nationalists, due to the resentment of British rule.

Friedrich
Monday, May 29th, 2017, 02:21 AM
Shortly said, nobody's going back to Zimbabwe under current circumstances.

Although some honest people miss the white farmers, there's also a continual counter-narrative.
Although it is true that former white farmers from Zimbabwe, and indeed South Africa are farming successfully in other African countries, and across the world.

Zimbabwe remains an Africanist (anti-white), socialist hell-hole.
We have millions of their refugees and migrants.
Some say four million, but nobody really knows.

In Botswana they get fined or caned before being sent home (yeah, how blacks treat "migrants"), but our South African borders are porous and some ANC ministers want to open them completely.
That has quite some counter-pressure, because SA has limited resources, and we've seen some major episodes of xenophobic violence.

Saliently, the top ANC and ZANU-PF brass support each other (there's a long history) and we fear SA will go the same path as Zimbabwe eventually.

I guess we must flee into the sea, because there's nowhere further south to run.

RoyBatty
Monday, May 29th, 2017, 04:09 PM
I've seen a bit of this on other internet forums. I hope it's just restricted to the internet. It's very strange because, being Australian, I have a lot of exposure to South African expats post-1994. A lot of my friends growing up were born there. From memory, most of them had Dutch or French last names. I do know a couple of Anglo-South Africans, but to us they were all just "South Africans". Although obviously the more Afrikaner ones had preferences for more unique things like Boerewors and called a barbecue a "braai". But as a whole, they really weren't much different from anyone else. This is probably an unpleasant fact for the more hardcore Boer nationalists, due to the resentment of British rule.

The guys you'd come across in Oz would be mostly Afrikaans & English speaking SA expats. The Afrikaners / Afrikaans speaking guys (although "Boers" speak Afrikaans as well) are usually a bit less radicalised vs the present day hardcore self-described "Boer" types.

The whole thing is a bit stupid to be honest. Many of these Internet "Boers" and some of the more hardcore types in SA kind of view themselves as god's chosen people, they all seem to have different and opposing bizarre quasi religious beliefs, they detest the "non-Boer" Afrikaans speakers (basically view them as traitors and enemies) etc. They're still fighting the Anglo-Boer War (in their heads), you can only imagine what their views on Anglos are.

It's just too tiresome to deal with them and their endless BS.

Sawyer
Monday, May 29th, 2017, 04:28 PM
Reminds me of:

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1495146825222.png?__cf_waf_tk__=09653500 2iVKQdZCdPezMwG5GD4yBvJAOa1s

Ocko
Monday, May 29th, 2017, 10:09 PM
When most negroes are died off because of lack of food. Then Boers might emigrate north, as there then is most likely a lot of empty but fertile land.

I don't know whether there are provinces in SA which have a better outlook for a white men's state in SA.

I like the courage of the boers, however bleak the future looks, to stand their ground. Looks more like my (East-)Frisian ancestors. They are part of the land, you won't get them out of there.

It's totally Teutonic, in older times, they might have sung a new Nibelungen Saga.

People with high motivation are ferocious fighters who sometimes win against all odds.

Stormraaf
Monday, May 29th, 2017, 11:43 PM
I've seen a bit of this on other internet forums. I hope it's just restricted to the internet.

It's very isolated, whether there's an offline element to it or not. It kind of has to be, if you think about RB's description of them - they're culty and excessively exclusionary. These are not the ingredients for a groundswell.

AFAIK the "Boer Afrikaner Volksraad" mentioned in the article is more inclusive and do not proselytize the culty Boers' dogma wholesale (or at least not in the name of the organization), although you'll probably find some difficult characters on their social media and what not.


I do know a couple of Anglo-South Africans, but to us they were all just "South Africans". Although obviously the more Afrikaner ones had preferences for more unique things like Boerewors and called a barbecue a "braai". But as a whole, they really weren't much different from anyone else.


The guys you'd come across in Oz would be mostly Afrikaans & English speaking SA expats. The Afrikaners / Afrikaans speaking guys (although "Boers" speak Afrikaans as well) are usually a bit less radicalised [...]

Also I think there's a lot of cultural similarity between Afrikaners and Anglos to begin with, more so than between us and the Dutch. (Tried to find a vaguely remembered thread on this topic. Failed.) Maybe we've been influenced by sharing the country with Anglos. Maybe it's more complex than that. In terms of how we interact socially I just don't think us and Anglos typically find anything alien about each other.

Huginn ok Muninn
Tuesday, May 30th, 2017, 12:44 AM
When most negroes are died off because of lack of food. Then Boers might emigrate north, as there then is most likely a lot of empty but fertile land.

First, people like this nitwit will have to die off.

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Since this commercial aired, the population of Africa has more than doubled, thanks to all the food aid.

:thumbdown

Ingvaeonic
Tuesday, May 30th, 2017, 05:32 AM
They're living in a dream world. It's not going to be a very long fight and it's going to be pretty lonely.

They have zero, zilch allies.
They have zero, zilch outside support and friendly countries willing to lend a hand.

At the first signs of them putting up even token resistance they'll be crucified in the Globalist jew-media and Western countries will, if necessary, be sure to assist and aid black terrorists against these Whites. Not even other Whites in South Africa will do anything for them.

And by themselves they're not going to last very long against the combined onslaught.

This is regrettably very true. But if they go down, they will go down fighting one should think. The Afrikaner is a redoubtable fighter and a tactically proficient soldier.

RoyBatty
Tuesday, May 30th, 2017, 07:28 PM
This is regrettably very true. But if they go down, they will go down fighting one should think. The Afrikaner is a redoubtable fighter and a tactically proficient soldier.

The older school Afrikaners were decent fighters, quite a few still are, serving in ZOG mercenary outfits around the Middle East.

Keep in mind that many of these self-described "Boers" do not consider themselves to be Afrikaners. They like to form bizarre associations such as "Afrikaners are Cape Dutch" vs "Boers are descended from real Germans", whatever that's supposed to mean. Yet many of them are obsessed with such ideas.

Many of these people hate Afrikaners, they consider Afrikaners to be traitors, unworthy and so forth. In their world, unless you are a "Boer" you aren't one of them.

I saw too many examples of how things went catastrophically wrong every time a couple of these yahoos would get it into their heads to launch impromptu mini-invasions or start mini-rebellions. It inevitably ended in tears for them and one were then left wondering what on earth they were thinking at the time.

Typically they didn't think anything through, they acted impulsively - often after alcohol fueled binges - and things would end in farce.

The typical Afrikaner nowadays has little interest in a fight. Some make a run for it, others are just trying to hang on to their swimming pools, pick-up trucks, credit card debts and rugby. Many of them are brainwashed into self-hating multicult behaviour. There's not much cultural unity left. They're in a similarish situation to what is found amongst European & North American Whites where the vast majorities have their thought processes and cultural identity shaped by Televitz and Jewmedia.

Ocko
Tuesday, June 13th, 2017, 01:30 AM
Here is an article about Boers fighting 50,000 communist, capitalist supported blacks.

http://www.renegadetribune.com/battle-won-erwin-rommel-1987/

I know today there are different weapons but there are also different alliances possible, like China or Russia.

Stormraaf
Tuesday, June 13th, 2017, 01:11 PM
Mugabe to kick out all remaining white farmers, says Zimbabweans need land
June 4, 2017
source (http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/exclusive-mugabe-to-kick-out-all-remaining-white-farmers-says-zimbabweans-need-land-20170604)

Though this might look like Zim reversing its position, I think it's just that the first mentioned article is fake news frankensteined together from much older pieces of news which, when put together, doesn't really say what the article says it does. (Not by smashculturalmarxism.com, rather where they sourced it from.)

RoyBatty
Wednesday, June 14th, 2017, 06:23 PM
Here is an article about Boers fighting 50,000 communist, capitalist supported blacks.

http://www.renegadetribune.com/battle-won-erwin-rommel-1987/

I know today there are different weapons but there are also different alliances possible, like China or Russia.

Oh for goodness sake, stop being ridiculous. Those weren't "Boers", that was the old Apartheid era SADF (South African Defence Force). The first photo even shows a black soldier sitting atop a SADF personnel carrier, possibly an Angolan from one of the factions which opposed the Communists.

The article even explicitly states that it is about the SADF.

Only a small subset of Whites in SA insist on referring to themselves as "Boers".

Neither the Chinese nor the Russians have much if anything to gain by striking deals with a handful of Whites in South Africa against the Black majority. That's the reality.

velvet
Friday, June 16th, 2017, 07:01 AM
There is a global turning point approaching, you see it everywhere.

Really?

Austria elected a Green to president.
France elected a globalist traitor to president, and apparently, votes his party into majority rule in parliament too, when no one really knows what he actually stands for.
The Brits failed to keep up the BNP and UKIP, and the election now made things even worse.
Netherlands failed to vote in Wilders.
While in Germany the Schulz-hype luckily already dissappeared again, AfD is down by signifant percentages too, we'll end up with the same traitor govt as we have now. Worse even, the return of the FPD as third power...

And then there's mad Trump, going wild on behalf on his Jewish convert daughter bombing other countries without a mandate, making good friends with Saudi Arabia, bowing before Israel and being evicted from the throne anyway soon over the "Russian hackers & pre-election contacts affair". And who ever will come after that will be the worst case scenario of globalism, and probably (as in: not unlikely) worse with heading straight into WW III, and the lemmings worldwide will still cheer whomever the tv-ligion promotes as savior.

Ocko
Friday, June 16th, 2017, 03:40 PM
That democratic system is Jew controlled, you will not see any turning point there. It will die with its controllers.

The turning point you can see on the non-controlled areas.

The Internet, decision by people to get out (off grid), rising nationalism etc.

The news outlets are seen as lies, military actions are seen as what they are, understanding that immigration policy is genocide, movements against degeneracy and so on.

If you expect to go back to the situation you cherished when growing up, you will be disappointed.

The crash of our world continues and will never come back.

There will be a different world but there will be areas carved out for white people.

Many white people already disconnected and Ho into a different direction and it will grow. Your own path to come to see the perpetrators and make changes to your life is broadening.

It will not be a world you know of you expect, but the minds of many are already on a resistance part and trying to find ways to get their own interest realized.

I can see the turning point down to my own family, where some members switch their point of view.

....and if you switch your point of view, everything is turning, the speed of realizations increases and you look for different ways.

Theunissen
Wednesday, August 30th, 2017, 06:17 PM
Really?

Austria elected a Green to president.
France elected a globalist traitor to president, and apparently, votes his party into majority rule in parliament too, when no one really knows what he actually stands for.
The Brits failed to keep up the BNP and UKIP, and the election now made things even worse.
Netherlands failed to vote in Wilders.
While in Germany the Schulz-hype luckily already dissappeared again, AfD is down by signifant percentages too, we'll end up with the same traitor govt as we have now. Worse even, the return of the FPD as third power...
......
I think he means we are over the downward turn and not over the turn where the left actually loses power. To me it seems they rather are closing in the nose around the neck. Hence those results.

- Austria also had a "right-wing" candidate that almost won. And there are some good indications of election rigging.
- France is more disappointing.
- BNP was a failed project, in fact I think all party-political attempts not backed up by a cultural or intellectual movement are doomed to fail.
- Netherlands grows more careful.
- I won't buy what "polls" say in Germany. I recall one of the institutes making the polls representative admitting, they rig it to influence politics.
- My estimate is that the Union/SPD will win again, although with probably less votes altogether. I'd guess the AfD gets about 10% or more. Although I expect election rigging as well.

Spjabork
Wednesday, August 30th, 2017, 07:02 PM
Many of them fancy themselves as being ethnic Germans (not Germanics, big difference to them!!!).
Actually I once read that the very first settler, who was given a plot of land outside Cape Town by the Nederlandsche Oostindische Compagnie was from Cologne, that means, not from the "Seven Provinces", but from Germany proper.

The "Germans" they identify as don't exist today. These ones disappeared with the Kaiser and later the 3d Reich.
You may laugh, you may not believe it, you may deride it, yet it is so true.

Their plans and ambitions are also completely unrealistic. They live inland surrounded by and outnumbered by enormous numbers of hostiles. They are cut off from access to the sea.
Oh, they really pretty much resemble the Germans in the Great War, really! :)

They don't want to consider relocating and giving up their historical territory etc etc. It's hopeless.
"You can run away, but you can't hide."

We are now at a point where it really doesn't matter where we are, we can stay, we can leave, we can dig in, we can hang in the air -- it is everywhere the same. Given this, some guys might also stay at their home for good, to die there, standing upright, not running, not bowing.

By the way, where you would recommend someone to go, perchance?

Ocko
Thursday, August 31st, 2017, 06:41 AM
Roy's attitude is that all is already lost. We will all get genocided so why should we fight.

The ones who still want to fight are stupid. They didn't get, it's over.

That's the defeatist attitude widespread around here.

Adolf would have been seen the same way. A group of 7 men wanted to save Germany and started the fight.

NS is in a revival and the idea's spread. Nobody talks about Jewish communism anymore.

Truth is, you never know where a group ends up.

Nobody will talk about Roy Batty's smart defeatism in 20 years, they will talk about the fighters against all odds, who never give up and who are persistent.

We do not know which group will have success and which not. Fate has its quirks.

But defeatism has never success.

Political snake winding smartness versus principles is a matter of lifestyle.

I rather save my soul by going with what I think is right and true.

If you Go for easy success you end up being a prostitute who sold her soul.

I am heathen I go with what is right.

I have a ton of respect for Boers who will die fighting for what they believe in versus the smarties who think about survival of the most convenient way.

The courageous dies only once, the coward dies many death.

Sigebrond
Thursday, August 31st, 2017, 11:56 PM
There's a big difference between "defeatism" and knowing what isn't worth saving, and knowing who aren't worth fighting for. As for Africa, Europeans don't belong there in the first place, it doesn't suit us. They should be leaving en masse, which they are...

The same goes for cities throughout Europe. They're dumps, and the system's rigged to enslave and destroy us, and they will completely obliterate us if we do the oh-so-heroic (but incredibly retarded) thing and "fight" them. Hitler seemed heroic at the time. Look at what they did to Germany and his legacy. No NS movement will succeed, because they will never allow one to succeed again.

Siebenbürgerin
Friday, September 1st, 2017, 12:22 AM
As for Africa, Europeans don't belong there in the first place, it doesn't suit us. They should be leaving en masse, which they are...
Hmm, but why shouldn't Europeans belong in Africa? Europeans and Germanics live in enclaves all over the world, and they've created flourishing, successful societies in any environment, whether it was in hostile climates of ice, deserts or the African bush. Germanics are adaptable and industrious, hard workers who didn't just migrate to a country and live from the aid of others, but they created their communities from scratch.

To you, those societies may not be worth saving, but for the Afrikaners and Germanics who have a family history and heritage there, who have landmass and properties, whose whole life was spent there and it's all they know, that may be a precious thing. If all Germanics renounce their honor and their communities, pretty soon there will be few places to go. Europe is not in a much better state than Africa nowadays, so moving there only solves things temporarily. Unfortunately, this quality to be industrious and create successful communities attracts abuse from other peoples who find it easier to use our communities as a base to exploit. We think the rural areas are safe now and retreat there from the cities, but once the cities are devoid of resources, the rural areas will become the new points of attraction...

Another sad thing is that Germanics like Afrikaners who want to immigrate to Europe rarely get asylum, Germanic immigrants in Europe get treated as the bottom of the scale. :(

GroeneWolf
Friday, September 1st, 2017, 05:31 AM
Another sad thing is that Germanics like Afrikaners who want to immigrate to Europe rarely get asylum, Germanic immigrants in Europe get treated as the bottom of the scale. :(

And politically there are only a hand few (https://twitter.com/thierrybaudet/status/830367384384987136) of those who want to change that situation. But of course most people have been fed images of South-Africa as some kind of ideal holiday destination and the Plaasmoorden are not reported on by the Dutch media. With exception of some alternative media.

Nachtengel
Friday, March 16th, 2018, 07:29 AM
Zimbabwe Tries to Lure Whites Back, Admits Black Farms a Disaster

The new government of Zimbabwe has offered white farmers inside and outside the country a 99-year lease on their properties confiscated during the 2000-2002 anti-white attacks in an effort to restart the agricultural sector, which it now admits has collapsed after the farms were turned over to blacks.

Zimbabwe President Emmerson Mnangagwa has announced that whites will be offered 99-year leases on land if they come back to Zimbabwe.

According to an article in New Zimbabwe news service, the “government’s message to exiled farmers is clear. Come home.”

Government spokesman Basil Nyabadza from the Agricultural and Rural and Development Authority told that news service that “Zimbabwean farmers in Australia should return to home soil.

“We have a lot of capital resource dotted around the world, including Australia,” Nyabadza said.

“We are saying, if you are Zimbabwean, there is now a real opportunity to come back home with your skills and be part of the building team.”

The Government is now offering 99-year leases to white farmers, a deal previously reserved for black Zimbabweans.

Government officials now admit the campaign of farm invasions that began in 2000 was a mistake, the report continued.

“Clearly, the formulas deployed then, left a lot of bad feeling. And more importantly, the intellectual property, left our borders,” Nyabadza said, admitting that agricultural production had collapsed, despite desperate leftist efforts to claim the opposite.

Thousands of white farmers were forced off the land during the invasions, and several were murdered by the black mobs, motivated by an anti-white bloodlust.

“Agricultural production dropped dramatically and the nation once regarded as the bread basket of Africa struggled to feed itself,” the New Zimbawe continued, adding that the “farm invasions have continued over the last 18 years and [new president] Mnangagwa was part of the government which allowed the seizures to continue.

“Now farmers who lost everything are being asked to take the latest announcement in good faith,” the report added.

According to Zimbabwe’s Daily News, at most there are some 300 white farmers left in Zimbabwe, down from over 5,000 before the anti-white attacks.

http://newobserveronline.com/zimbabwe-tries-to-lure-whites-back-admits-black-farms-a-disaster/

Thorburn
Thursday, March 29th, 2018, 04:22 AM
White farmers must come back, our people are dying of hunger- Emmerson Mnangagwa

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Zimbabwe’s white farmers have said that they remain cautious over the new government land policy which now allowed them to lease the land for 99-years, says a report.

According to New Zimbabwe.com, the Commercial Farmers Union director, Ben Giplin, said that the new government criteria on who will get land sounded “narrow for now”.

Giplin said, however, it was an important step in the right direction for the new administration to change the country’s decade old land policy.

He said it was too early to be sure of President Emmerson Mnangagwa’s “motive and policy direction”.

“It is an important step but we will be cautious. It’s too early for us to be sure of government motive and direction this new policy is taking,” Giplin was quoted as saying.

Assuring white farmers that nothing wrong will happen to them if they come back, Mnangagwa on Saturday said:


“WE HAVE PLENTY OF LAND THAT HAS NOT BEEN USED SINCE WHITE FARMERS LEFT ZIMBABWE. WE ARE CALLING ON ALL THE FARMERS WHO FLED TO ZAMBIA, SOUTH AFRICA, AND OTHER COUNTRIES TO COME BACK HOME. WE NEED EACH OTHER. WHITE FARMERS MUST COME BACK, OUR PEOPLE ARE DYING OF HUNGER. FARMING IS THE BACKBONE OF ANY COUNTRY.”

Giplin said that they were other fundamental issues that needed to be resolved before the land issues were resolved.

This came after Zimbabwe’s land ministry issued a directive that would see an end to the discrimination of white farmers as they have now been included on a 99-year land lease.

Under ex-president Robert Mugabe’s government white farmers were allowed to lease the land for only 5-years.

But, Mnangagwa’s government has scrapped that policy, with the country’s eight acting provincial resettlement officers being told that “there should be no more restrictive 5-year leases to white farmers”.

[Source (http://southafricauncut.com/white-farmers-must-come-back-our-people-are-dying-of-hunger-emmerson-mnangagwa/)]





First, the Communist government under dictator Mugabe expelled the white farmers by force, expropriating their farms, to give them to black rebel soldiers from the time "of the struggle." Many white farmers were murdered. Now the new government under Mnangagwa begs the white farmers to return -- so that the black population doesn't starve and that the government earns money by taxing them and by leasing the land that has been stolen from them back to them. You heard right, there is no plan to give them their property back.

What happens if they should do that and if the economy recovers? Will they be driven out a second time by another new government if new black Communists should arrive at the conclusion once more that the whites are "living in privilege on African land that does not belong to them"?

Meanwhile, in South Africa, the ANC prepares a legislation to expropriate its white farmers without compensation ...

And in Great Britain, the Africa Editor of the Economist, Jonathan Rosenthal, tells us that granting asylum to "a bunch of white people" would be "racist."