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Ahnenerbe
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 04:01 PM
"May you live in interesting times"... :D

"62% of Alt Right Influencers Have Yellow Fever (http://www.evilyoshida.com/thread-13873.html)

2017 List of Neo-Nazis, Alt Rights, Conservatives, White Supremacists who fetish/date/marry Asian Women (https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/5nafhd/updated_2017_full_list_of_neonazis_altri ghts)

North Vinlander
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 04:20 PM
So Jared Taylor's a bad White Nationalist because he was born in Japan, but you're a polyamorous "muh Nordic Aryan Vedas" guy. :roll

Catterick
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 05:27 PM
Yes polyamory might be a bad word to use because it caries tumblr SJW connotations but people forget Himmler wished to introduce polygamy for SS officers. Some forms of non-monogamy are not incompaible with NS principles. Though it was not the mainstream position in NS at the time.

And though I might personally disagree with Arminism and Irminism such quirky things are very much a part of the history of German nationalism and volkisch thought. The discovery of the Vedas were important in the direction German thought evolved.

Anyway the whole yellow fever thing can be examined no? At a shallow level concern about it has to be rejected same as the specter of homosexuality. But it informs about different people's ends and motivations. The Yellow Fever is not just sexual because the AmRen types express preferences for East Asian immigrants as opposed to Blacks, Hispanics etc. In the HBD community there is also widespread admiration for the northern Mongoloid races in China, Korea and Japan.

Nothing wrong with respecting historical Japan but let's not forget the present country is now a little dystopian, with countless overworked and suicidal parents raising thirty year old hikikomori. Even the best of their modern media output is marked by three themes - escapist nostalgia, destruction and escapism into chaos - all reflecting the anomie of a deeply unhappy society. Surely Asia of today cannot be a role model for those of us foreigners who respect samurai and Shinto. The genuinely efficient post-industrial societies the alt-right desire to emulate in Japan and Singapore are less suitable than are Mahathir Mohammed's Malaysia, and wartime Japan.

MarsOsix
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 09:49 PM
Where is the 62% figure coming from? Most of those aren't even married to Asians. OK, Richard Spencer dated an Asian woman when he was younger, whatever, he doesn't anymore. Jared Taylor can hardly help having been born in Japan. This kind of smearing only aids those who want to promote miscegenation. "Studied Japanese in college"? C'mon.

North Vinlander
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 11:04 PM
Yes polyamory might be a bad word to use because it caries tumblr SJW connotations but people forget Himmler wished to introduce polygamy for SS officers. Some forms of non-monogamy are not incompaible with NS principles. Though it was not the mainstream position in NS at the time.

All successful civilizations have been monogamous. I'm an atheist but sometimes the Christians are right about things.



Anyway the whole yellow fever thing can be examined no? At a shallow level concern about it has to be rejected same as the specter of homosexuality. But it informs about different people's ends and motivations. The Yellow Fever is not just sexual because the AmRen types express preferences for East Asian immigrants as opposed to Blacks, Hispanics etc. In the HBD community there is also widespread admiration for the northern Mongoloid races in China, Korea and Japan.

Amren is all about White identity. Jared Taylor does not support Asian immigration at all. I also don't see this widespread admiration unless you mean acknowledging objective facts about IQ or crime rates. They rarely even talk about Asians.


Nothing wrong with respecting historical Japan but let's not forget the present country is now a little dystopian, with countless overworked and suicidal parents raising thirty year old hikikomori. Even the best of their modern media output is marked by three themes - escapist nostalgia, destruction and escapism into chaos - all reflecting the anomie of a deeply unhappy society. Surely Asia of today cannot be a role model for those of us foreigners who respect samurai and Shinto. The genuinely efficient post-industrial societies the alt-right desire to emulate in Japan and Singapore are less suitable than are Mahathir Mohammed's Malaysia, and wartime Japan.

I've never seen a White Nationalist call modern Asian societies role models except in terms of immigration policy and fat-shaming.

Catterick
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 11:29 PM
I didn't say that WNs saw Asian societies as role models: I said the HBD people constantly praise them. And Jared Taylor may not support Asian immigration, but he views them as a model minority and the AmRen crowd have recieved flak for being soft on them from more hardcore WNs.

All successful civilizations have been monogamous? Historically the Chinese had large harems and their empire was scarcely a flop. The Indians, Mesopotamians, Incas and the historical Moslem empires all had harems of a similar nature. True the Japanese were monogamous and the Egyptians can be interpreted so. Otherwise its pretty much Christians and pagan Greeks and Romans, no?

MarsOsix
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 11:33 PM
Amren is all about White identity. Jared Taylor does not support Asian immigration at all. I also don't see this widespread admiration unless you mean acknowledging objective facts about IQ or crime rates. They rarely even talk about Asians.

You're right, he's spoken about this before.

But tangentially: on some level I can't help but think, honestly, that Amren's kind of white nationalism tends to lead people to positions which don't really provide a basis for restricting immigration. I've always felt like Jared Taylor's focus has been pretty much exclusively on showing that blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately criminal/low IQ/ethnocentric or anti-white in political behavior. I feel like this doesn't really provide much in the way of promoting a positive, exclusive white identity. If the only way we can conceive of ourselves is "more civilized than darker minorities", it's hard to say that we can really exclude, say, Asians and Jews from that - and there are probably, for now, more people who acknowledge racial differences who think in this way than actual nationalists.

I guess Amren does serve a purpose - talking about race solely in terms of economic efficiency or social stability is the easiest way you can introduce racialism into the present social dialectic. On the JQ, Jared Taylor has explicitly, briefly referenced Kevin MacDonald at least once, so evidently he's holding back for the sake of winning people over from the mainstream. Ultimately I think it's not wise to punch at Amren for its failures to take WN further - it has a role in the discourse and does it well.

Catterick
Sunday, May 14th, 2017, 11:43 PM
But tangentially: on some level I can't help but think, honestly, that Amren's kind of white nationalism tends to lead people to positions which don't really provide a basis for restricting immigration. I've always felt like Jared Taylor's focus has been pretty much exclusively on showing that blacks and Hispanics are disproportionately criminal/low IQ/ethnocentric or anti-white in political behavior.


If the only way we can conceive of ourselves is "more civilized than darker minorities", it's hard to say that we can really exclude, say, Asians and Jews from that - and there are probably, for now, more people who acknowledge racial differences who think in this way than actual nationalists.


Ultimately I think it's not wise to punch at Amren for its failures to take WN further - it has a role in the discourse and does it well.

Many agree. AmRen does not feel viciously racist and certainly not white supremacist as they are frequently accused. Rather it feels anti-Black and anti-Mexican nothing more. Racial IQ feels like a red herring.

Juthunge
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 01:09 AM
I honestly don't understand why something like that is posted on here.

That "edgy" movements of whatever political side attract, in heightened amounts, confused individuals, lunatics and losers not seriously in it for any ideology is nothing new and a truism.

But by definition, someone who is married to a person of another race and even has children with him or her can never be a "White Nationalist/Supremacist" or, simply, an ethnic preservationist. They might style themselves as some sort of "traditionalist" and marry an Asian because they're "oh so more traditional" but that's about it.

If they pose as actual preservationists such but still miscegenate, they're obviously hypocrites and frauds.
A lot of people that are ascribed as such by others, though, never even said they are ethnic preservationists themselves or behaved as such in the first place. They have nothing to do with us and the "Alt Right" is such a catch-all phrase of widely differing ideologies that it's almost meaningless anyway.

For example, on the reddit list they even stated, "Others include various people in the "manosphere," "human biodiversity," and other fringe conservative groups."
Some guys who never said they're ethnonationalists have Asian wives. This is relevant how?


That being said, being merely born in Japan or speaking Japanese etc is obviously not a case of "Yellow fever" and barely worth a mention.

North Vinlander
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 01:10 AM
I didn't say that WNs saw Asian societies as role models: I said the HBD people constantly praise them. And Jared Taylor may not support Asian immigration, but he views them as a model minority and the AmRen crowd have recieved flak for being soft on them from more hardcore WNs.

Jared Taylor opposes racial mixing as well, including white-yellow blending. I can tell you're not very familiar with Amren.


All successful civilizations have been monogamous? Historically the Chinese had large harems and their empire was scarcely a flop. The Indians, Mesopotamians, Incas and the historical Moslem empires all had harems of a similar nature. True the Japanese were monogamous and the Egyptians can be interpreted so. Otherwise its pretty much Christians and pagan Greeks and Romans, no?

The Egyptians, ancient Greeks, ancient Romans, and Christian Europeans were all the most advanced civilizations of all time at their peaks. The Japanese are clearly the most successful East Asians. Monogamy is critical for social stability and the only plausible arguments in favor or polygamy are eugenic ones, though there are better ways to do eugenics.

Catterick
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 01:45 AM
Given AmRen is an American site with a US focus it has fairly little to interest me though I do not recall accusing JT of practicing or endorsing miscegenartion. The Adam Yoshida post was was talking about a yellow fever more than sexual: sections of the alt-right do have a fascination with East Asians. I used to I must admit. Then you look at places such as Singapore and Japan as one would a Eropean state and you see problems.

Whilst I respect pre-Meiji Japan and enjoy their popular culture today, I disagree the Japanese are most successful Asians. The Chinese consistently had more territory, wealth and a greater bureaucracy throughout Asian history. Japan was by contrast a backwater for much of this period. The only other Asians to have shaped the world - at least briefly - were two or more steppe peoples. Now the post-Communist PRC is modernising China is beginning to compete with and outdo her rivals again.

North Vinlander
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 01:54 AM
Whilst I respect pre-Meiji Japan and enjoy their popular culture today, I disagree the Japanese are most successful Asians. The Chinese consistently had more territory, wealth and a greater bureaucracy throughout Asian history. Japan was by contrast a backwater for much of this period. The only other Asians to have shaped the world - at least briefly - were two or more steppe peoples. Now the post-Communist PRC is modernising China is beginning to compete with and outdo her rivals again.

You mean because China is bigger? The Japanese had a bigger colonial empire relative to their own size. They also have built a great civilization on their own turf, unlike the Mongols or Turks who were great at war but never created much of anything.

Catterick
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 02:01 AM
Well I respect Old Japan because I like castles and Buddhism and martial arts. Old China though was still greater on average, its just that the country tended to lag because the state ideology disfavoured the sharing of knowledge.

Qing had 9.87% of Earth's land area (13,100,000 km²/5,057,938 sq miles), and the Eastern Han were quite big (6,500,000 km²/2,509,664 sq mi). In comparison the Empire of Japan extended to 1,984,000 km²/766,027 sq mi. If you can say the ethnic Han had the advantage of size (territory? population density?) throughout history you couldn't say that about the Manchu conquerors who had created the Qing empire. Though they assimilated to Chinese life this brings up the cultural power of China to absorb invaders and influence neighbouring states such as Japan and Korea. I don't think any other culture in the Old World comes close to Chinese prestige or resilience in that regard except for ancient Egypt and Egypt was Hellenised completely under the Roman Empire.

Till the Meiji Restoration and the black shis no one would have doubted Chinese primacy, not even the Japanese who revered Chinese precedent as cultured people in Russia were in awe of Byzantium. So no,even if you have an aesthetic preference one over the other, or want to make some statement, history speaks for itself.

The Song had a period of scientific advancement and it was only afterwards that China stagnated. Sivin argues there was a scientific revolution in the 17th century. On balance however China always lacked networks of researchers as developed in medieval Europe or, in Asia, the rangaku scholars and culturally the Chinese placed no emphaqsis upon theoretical basis. For comparision, in the Western tradition a claim is pseudoscientific if it confused physics (ie. science) with metaphysics. this is not to say Western thought must reject metaphysics: rather that Western science avoids philosophical baggage about physical claims.
Besides, the size of China and her vast population are the result of unification by a minor regional power as any other empire and policies of ethnic and linguistic standardisation contributed to so many people in China identifying as Han.

Jäger
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 07:39 AM
Racial IQ feels like a red herring.
I agree, societal cohesion and success is a highly multi-variable dependent system. IQ is just one of those variables.


Now the post-Communist PRC is modernising China is beginning to compete with and outdo her rivals again.
I always thought of China as introvert, hardly competing with any rival.
While I acknowledge their cohesive Chinese society, their current economical success is hardly their doing.

Ocko
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 08:33 AM
2/3rds of white nationalists are with Asian women (I assume white nationalists are disproportional men in contrast to leftist who are disproportional women).

I personal do not believe that number. The ones I know are single or with white women.

Amren is not an alt right group. They are called cuckservatives for a reason. They aren't nationalists at all but are Jew-shills.

Look at this site, there are none with an Asian partner.

The proportion of white women who are with negroids seem to be much bigger than the miscenegation of white men with Asian women. But none reaches the 2/3 numbers. That's most likely fake news.

Catterick
Monday, May 15th, 2017, 03:24 PM
I always thought of China as introvert, hardly competing with any rival.While I acknowledge their cohesive Chinese society, their current economical success is hardly their doing.

Chinese attitudes to the outside are not historicaly constant: Zhang He's infamous voyages for a start. In the Song dynasty Buddhist ideas of Indian origin were widely accepted and integrated into what is retrospectively called Neo-Confucianism. And then there are the Greek influences upon the terracotta army. It has been noted Greek and Chinese science had such parallels that it becomes impossible to tell who influenced who: ideas travelled the silk road and Eurasia became an oikumene. Then the Euriopeans leaped ahead as China began to stagnate, in both cases partly due to cultural factors, the rise of scientific thinking in the west and the fossilisation of Confucianism in China.

Same with Japan: the political self-isolation of Japan in the Tokugawa era was historically atypical for Japan. And even then they had rangaku scholarship, an arms length appropriation of the Protestant cultures of Europe. The Japanese seem to have had knowledge of North America's Pacific Northwest independantly of Europeans though not neccessarily before Columbus. The Japanese had accurate destriptions of indigenous people and their woolly dogs (now extinct).

Lastly there is the phenomenon of Western isolationism. Sitwell compared Roman attitudes to those of China: Rome sought isolationism satrting with Hadrian, and ironically it was Augustus who first advocated a hermit kingdom policy after remarkable military failures. In early medieval England Continental foreigners were permitted to enter and reside only at specific ports similarly to the situation later in Japan.

With openness as with scientific progress: post-medieval Western Europe is at one extreme. For important parts of their history, Chinese happened to be at at the other end of the scale. This is why Chinese backwardness and xenophobia attracts so much attention. both societies are in a way unique cases with all other world civilisations, and their own ancestors, inbetween.

Chlodovech
Monday, May 29th, 2017, 10:17 PM
Chinese attitudes to the outside are not historicaly constant: Zhang He's infamous voyages for a start.

While not the only time in its history, it is exceptional for China though, that brief era of openness associated with Zhang He.

Iran, China, but also India and the U.S. are worlds of their own, with Iran and China being the most inward looking of the four of them.

Catterick
Tuesday, May 30th, 2017, 12:53 AM
While not the only time in its history, it is exceptional for China though, that brief era of openness associated with Zhang He.

Iran, China, but also India and the U.S. are worlds of their own, with Iran and China being the most inward looking of the four of them.

Zhang He's voyages were only exceptional in that China was turning towards the sea: in antiquity China had more knowledge of the Romans than Rome had of China because Chinese trading and geopolitical interests were continental. Have you ever heard of Zhang Qian? I find it hard to believe so many people are unaware of Chinese interests in dominating the steppes given the blond mummy people were Chinese subjects and the Chinese culture was strongly felt in Soghdiana near the Caspian Sea. People seem to think Xinjiang is further east and closer to the Han homeland than it actually is or they would realise China's reach at a time when the Han Chinese population was far smaller.

http://sino-platonic.org/complete/spp261_Roman_Chinese.pdf (misunderstands the Seres based on Roman confusions)
http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp230_hellenes_romans_in_china.pdf

Long before Zheng He there were examples of Chinese exploration and diplomacy deep into the interior on one occasion even entering Europe. Such military adventures should properly be compared with the Greek and Persian attempts to tame Central Asia and control the Silk Road which were also the purposes of the Chinese military expeditions into Central Asia.

Norman Pride
Thursday, February 7th, 2019, 07:09 PM
How The Alt Right Promotes Hatred of White Women and Eurasianism

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/gjko_y8t.jpg?w=648

Your worst enemy is not Jews, White Man, but your own females.” ~ Andrew Anglin, publisher of the #1 Alt Right website

Recently (((Russia Today))) released this ridiculous article (https://www.rt.com/news/360542-female-volunteers-sex-migrants-calais/), based on no evidence whatsoever, reporting that allegedly White women are not only having sex with men in the Calais jungle, but also are raping young brown boys. Do people seriously buy this garbage? Unfortunately I know a large amount of the alt right would lap this up like their lives depended on it. “See! See guys! White women are disgusting whores that essentially want to be raped by brown invaders so we should just hang back and continue to make excuses for our complete lack of action and failure as men to protect our people’s most important resource – our women!”

I am finally starting to see the real purpose of the alt right and its connections to Russia. I know what some of you are thinking. “That’s what Hillary said! See! Sinead is like the next Hitlery!” In my estimation the overall agenda of the alt right is to push Eurasianism onto our folk. Richard Spencer is married to a Eurasian woman who tries to silence the mass killings of Whites at the hands of Stalin and praises anti-Western Alexander Dugin, FOUNDER of the National Bolshevik Party. The Eurasian agenda appears to simply be the Kalergi plan of the East.

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/14344217_347781038900220_215932146416788 8477_n.jpg

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/14322383_347780978900226_624993970345092 1979_n.jpg

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/14322383_347780978900226_624993970345092 1979_n.jpg

Not only is Nina a Bolshevik apologist and anti-White, her Grandfather looks like a sephardic jew. She certainly favors his looks.

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/14355616_347782192233438_102752284354694 969_n.jpg

Nina is responsible for translating all of Dugin’s work for her beloved Dicky. Let’s read some heart warming quotes from this supposed “White ally” Alexander Dugin.

I am a supporter of blacks. White civilization; their cultural values, false, dehumanizing model of the world, built by them – did not pay off. Everything goes to the beginning of the anti-white pogroms on a planetary scale. Russia saved only by the fact that we are not pure white. Predatory multinational corporations, oppression and suppression of all others, MTV, gays and lesbians – this is the fruit of white civilization, from which it is necessary to get rid of. So I am for reds, yellows, greens, blacks – but not for whites. I wholeheartedly on the side of the people of Zimbabwe.

An important aspect of the Eurasian worldview is an absolute denial of Western civilization. In the opinion of the Eurasians, the West with its ideology of liberalism is an absolute evil. (source (http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1177749))

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/b8zjnf-cuaaell1.jpg

Dugin is embraced by outlets like The Traditionalist Workers Party, which uses the “chaos symbol”. Sounds kind of communist, no?

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/dugin-nbp_bunker-1996.jpg?w=876&h=657

Just being a pro White man here with my hammer and sickle!

He’s also been a guest on Red Ice Radio.

I have also noticed that the lovely Lana, has been pushing the idea that “Western women” have the highest standards in the world and that apparently Western women are embracing their own genocide because they are inherently flawed. Hmm. Interesting that she never seems to condemn the Eastern European or Russian women who are acting the same exact way as modern Western women thanks to jewish mind viruses. As a Russian woman, wouldn’t she be more inclined to advocate for what Eastern women should do? She goes on and on about feminism but never seems to tell you that these PR stunts like the women giving roses to invaders, FEMEN and other feminist initiatives are funded by jews to take attention away from jewish crimes and use women as a scapegoat. The same goes for the pointless, counter productive and illogical argument for repealing the 19th amendment. This, once again diverts blame from organized jewry, convinces people that voting will actually make a difference and that women are incapable of logical thought, therefore they shouldn’t be able to have their own independent vote. For a woman who claims to be “Heathen” it seems quite strange that she would advocate for a patriarchy along with Christians.

Here Lana talks to a gay man, Greg Johnson, who promotes people like Jame’s O’Meara on his site. James O’Meara wrote The Homo and the Negro and runs a blog called “Where the Wild Boys Are” which reads:

https://heathenwomenblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/screen-shot-2016-09-25-at-10-48-39-am.png?w=1024&h=214

Being tied up and spanked is a kind of last stand of implicit White identity.

He is a homosexual man pushing for pitiless hordes of adolescent warriors in rainbow thongs. Pederast much? Oh wait! That’s right, according to Milo Yiannapolous, grown men having sex with teenage boys is a normal, healthy,coming of age event! During the cringetastic show between Lana and Grindr Greggy, they mention how I am a feminist for calling out the fact that the alt right is pushing faggotry and having openly homosexual degenerates like Jack Donavon lecture young impressionable White males about “masculinity”.

Here they are pictured together at the last National Pozzing Institute conference.
More: https://heathenwomen.com/2016/09/25/how-the-alt-right-promotes-hatred-of-white-women-and-eurasianism/

SaxonPagan
Saturday, February 9th, 2019, 01:10 AM
"62% of Alt Right Influencers Have Yellow Fever"

Hmm ... 62%? ... well, firstly, I never believe statistics and claims such as this ^ but I must say that around these parts it’s becoming increasingly commonplace to see middle-aged men with much younger chink-esses.

I was walking past a café the other week and on the terrace outside there were 7 or 8 of them, all with slitty-eyed women. They appeared to be part of the same group because they were all sitting and chatting away together so there must be some kind of Anglo-Chinese dating ring operating in the area for men whose wives have dumped them.

I jokingly said to my missus that I want one too and she said fine, she’d even help me to choose from the catalogue so I didn’t pursue this any further. Actually, she still has a few years of service left in her before I trade her in for a couple of Japanese Manga schoolgirl types so I was really just thinking out loud at this stage :scratch

Anyway, as a self-appointed connoisseur of the female sex my opinion of these girls (..I have trouble calling them ‘women’ or ‘ladies’ because they all look about 13 years old to me) is that they’re ideal for closet pedophiles. The term ‘petite’ doesn’t even come close to doing them justice and I have some uneasy suspicions that I’d rather not ponder at length about middle-aged males who go for titless gooks.

With that said, some of them are quite attractive facially if you go for those sort of features but there’s little variation so it’s an all-or-nothing situation. TBQH I reckon they’re okay from the neck up and the waist down but they’d need an awful lot of silicone for the middle section to meet my personal demands. The implants would also require a skillful surgeon because there’s no way for oriental girls' legs to support that kind of burden and they could easily become unstable http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/fear/t3615.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-fear.php)

This now brings me on to Western women in general, who are getting increasingly obese. Nature, in its infinite cruelty, has turned all those pizzas, burgers and chips into fat around their arse and waist and I can see how it would reduce their appeal once they break the 250-pound barrier, but do their disappointed (ex-)spouses have to go to the opposite extreme :bconfused And those male specimens in the café were not exactly lightweights themselves so their former partners would have been confronted with the same issues but I don’t see any rush by Western women to date smaller Chinese men. It appears to be an almost uniquely one-way phenomenon.

It's a fascinating topic that we're only just beginning to understand, and why are Alt-Right men succumbing to temptation from the East far more than anyone else? Are they being targeted by some subversive forces? I intend to do more research into this and have already booked a 3-month tour of Thailand and the Philippines for this coming summer http://yoursmiles.org/hsmile/nation/h0334.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/h-nation.php)

Eoppoyz
Saturday, February 9th, 2019, 12:38 PM
I recommend this interview with Jared Taylor from Japanese TV.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly0L4QHFjhs