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Wulfaz
Tuesday, March 7th, 2017, 03:35 PM
The suit is a traditional European costum. This was the general costum of Europe, before after the lost WWII the American fashion has changed the European (jeans trouser, jeans jacket, sportshoes, etc.). Nowadays the suit is disappeared from the streets of Europe, it has becomen an uniform of a few job like as business, policy, security.

Three piece suit

http://www.lgfgfashionhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/tumblr_inline_nwzvqylS7E1rg11t7_540.jpg

The suit was a more complex clothing with several well-combinable part like as the necktie, the shirt, the pocket handkerchief, the cluff-buttons. The nowadays fashionable t-shirt, hoody, jeans, sportshoe look more simple and primitive. Only some man and woman choose the elegant way what is not necesssary more expensive as the price of two 501 Levi's is equal a good suit. A t-shirt with a logo a fashionable brand price is equal the price of an elegant shirt. Someones say the jeans+hoody more comfortable... till they have a good suit. A good suit-jacket has a lot of inner and outer pocket what is very practic side by side a hoody has two handwarmer pocket only.

Female three piece suit

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/52/a3/ac/52a3ace0ce63c5ff8183d25f2f2a9c24.jpg

I think the extruding of the traditional European clothing, the suit and the more elegant ones like as Dinnerjacket, Tailcoat, Frockcoat and the female variants, the beutiful long skirts, bluses, this is the part of the erasing of the whole European culture, someones want delete our costumes, our religion, our languages, our habits, our race, our nations, our past.

What are you thoughts about this? Do you use to wear elegant clothing?

Spjabork
Tuesday, March 7th, 2017, 04:39 PM
Female three piece suit
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/52/a3/ac/52a3ace0ce63c5ff8183d25f2f2a9c24.jpgSuit s for women are an invention of emancipist feminism. They were entirely unusual, abnormal before after the Great War. They clearly display, and exhibit, a lesbian leaning.

Wulfaz
Tuesday, March 7th, 2017, 05:06 PM
It is not true. Woman worn suitjacket with long skirt in the second half of 19th century. Just see some episode from Jeremy Brett's Sherlock Holmes, it plays in the 1880s.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Walking_suites_1894_Delineator.jpg

SpearBrave
Tuesday, March 7th, 2017, 11:24 PM
Suits are European fashion, but they were not always the most popular. They basically are an evolution from a great coat or cloak and something called a weskit. Not all men wore these cloths historically and the masses were mainly farmers and tradesmen and they only wore "suits" on occasions.

Today many of the suits I see combined with the hair styles are very effeminate for men and they look like fags or sissy boys. ;)

Catterick
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 11:37 AM
Suits only look good on gangsters.

Wulfaz
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 03:23 PM
Suits only look good on gangsters.

A gengster in the Budapest Airport? :D


Suits are European fashion, but they were not always the most popular. They basically are an evolution from a great coat or cloak and something called a weskit. Not all men wore these cloths historically and the masses were mainly farmers and tradesmen and they only wore "suits" on occasions.

Today many of the suits I see combined with the hair styles are very effeminate for men and they look like fags or sissy boys. ;)

The slimfit suit is disuisting in males, it seems female suit like as the end hihger the ass and the thin waist, indeed. However tnak for God, the stores keep normal suit too.

Spjabork
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 03:32 PM
Suits only look good on gangsters.
No, I also look very smart & fine in a suit. Yet I do not like to wear it, because it indicates that I am a 'western' male, and it signals that I do fully comply, and bow to, the whole package of 'western' anything.

Catterick
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 03:39 PM
No, I also look very smart & fine in a suit. Yet I do not like to wear it, because it indicates that I am a 'western' male, and it signals that I do fully comply, and bow to, the whole package of 'western' anything.

Pretty much what I meant.

Spjabork
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 03:46 PM
Pretty much what I meant.
So, I am a gangster, in your eyes? You never saw me.:)

Catterick
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 03:51 PM
So, I am a gangster, in your eyes? You never saw me.:)

I was replying to the second sentence onward. ;)

Wulfaz
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 03:55 PM
No, I also look very smart & fine in a suit. Yet I do not like to wear it, because it indicates that I am a 'western' male, and it signals that I do fully comply, and bow to, the whole package of 'western' anything.

Western? What do you wear? Joppe with Hemmedi and Lederhose? Is that enough Eastern? :D

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cd/e6/70/cde67087a7e08ae4ee7c47baad7fda1c.jpg

Spjabork
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 06:28 PM
What do you wear? Joppe with Hemmedi and Lederhose? I do not wear Bavarian costume, because I am no Bavarian. I do wear what I want. I have my own style, which is expressing my inner self.

Is that enough Eastern?Germany is not western, yet is also not eastern either. It is neither of them, and it is both of them. This is what the easterners sense and feel. And this is what actually the westerners, all of them, sense and feel, too.

Western? There is something you either overlooked, or I guess you simply didn't know it. The so called 'western suit' itself is not uniform, but has -- at least -- three different, distinct variants.

Even nowadays, fashion designers distinguish between an 'american suit', and an 'italian suit'. And till 1945, there also has been a German suit (Herrenanzug), which was clearly distinct from the american and the italian. If wou want to know how this German suit did look like, you must watch German cinema movies made between 1930 and 1945.

Such a German suit I would like to wear, but it is difficult nowadays to obtain one, as they are no longer tailored. In order to get such a German suit, I would have to show the tailor still and moving pictures of samples, and probably even to give him a pattern cut drawing. This would cost several thousand.

Wulfaz
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 06:42 PM
Nope, the suit what Hitler and his collegues worn are the same the American suit. Germany was the west, not the east.

Catterick
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 07:38 PM
I agree about Germany being somehow Eastern: Nazi references to a parallel struggle (to that of Japan) demonstrate a German awareness of this perhaps related to late industrialisation. Both the unification of Germany and the "restoration" of the emperor, reflect a rude awakening by outsiders triggering a combination of militarism, appeal to heritage and progressivism. Both countries and similarly Italy went "far right" (really with leftist elements). Of course neither country went through the indigenous social evolution that led to the "left" and "right" in France or England: it's important to remember that when considering other cultures.

Huginn ok Muninn
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 07:46 PM
I do not wear Bavarian costume, because I am no Bavarian. I do wear what I want. I have my own style, which is expressing my inner self.
Germany is not western, yet is also not eastern either. It is neither of them, and it is both of them. This is what the easterners sense and feel. And this is what actually the westerners, all of them, sense and feel, too.
There is something you either overlooked, or I guess you simply didn't know it. The so called 'western suit' itself is not uniform, but has -- at least -- three different, distinct variants.

Even nowadays, fashion designers distinguish between an 'american suit', and an 'italian suit'. And till 1945, there also has been a German suit (Herrenanzug), which was clearly distinct from the american and the italian. If wou want to know how this German suit did look like, you must watch German cinema movies made between 1930 and 1945.

Such a German suit I would like to wear, but it is difficult nowadays to obtain one, as they are no longer tailored. In order to get such a German suit, I would have to show the tailor still and moving pictures of samples, and probably even to give him a pattern cut drawing. This would cost several thousand.

Interesting... do you think you could dig up some images of the "German suit" to show us what you are envisioning? I found this site (http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/british-italian-american-suits/) that gives an explanation of the differences between British, American, and Italian suits...

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/set-Copy-02-790.jpg

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/indi_full_british-790.jpg

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/indi_full-03-790.jpg

Leliana
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 09:33 PM
Nope, the suit what Hitler and his collegues worn are the same the American suit. Germany was the west, not the east.

http://www.kontextwochenzeitung.de/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_Hitler_in_Tracht_fb60e23c70.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/672402f0c2f12d3173d21737665b4ab7/tumblr_inline_nxkrr6p4wB1ryh1c8_500.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/21be952916a6c496b53c3c4bc4308467/tumblr_inline_nxkrp3tAY91ryh1c8_500.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/02e754b8a5f7c5162eeb6ba290a00c6f/tumblr_nxksd5DMeR1rjssvvo7_1280.jpg

:cool

I don't wear and like female suits. Females should wear feminine clothes. Female=Feminine. Jeans and stuff are okay but no suits, most look like lesbians in it.

Mööv
Wednesday, March 8th, 2017, 09:46 PM
most look like lesbians in it.


Yup. :puke

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/f3/dc/3df3dcfae57481abc54e556c81692ada.jpg

Wulfaz
Thursday, March 9th, 2017, 10:15 AM
http://www.kontextwochenzeitung.de/fileadmin/_processed_/csm_Hitler_in_Tracht_fb60e23c70.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/672402f0c2f12d3173d21737665b4ab7/tumblr_inline_nxkrr6p4wB1ryh1c8_500.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/21be952916a6c496b53c3c4bc4308467/tumblr_inline_nxkrp3tAY91ryh1c8_500.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/02e754b8a5f7c5162eeb6ba290a00c6f/tumblr_nxksd5DMeR1rjssvvo7_1280.jpg

:cool

I don't wear and like female suits. Females should wear feminine clothes. Female=Feminine. Jeans and stuff are okay but no suits, most look like lesbians in it.

This pictures are from the early 20s, later Hitler only worn uniform or suit.

https://notimeforsilence.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/ah-early-blue-suit.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/73514c66112e2b313a0488b9ab63a060/tumblr_o202h6j3by1toqeyzo1_500.png

https://www.psywar.org/delmer/images/Hitler01.jpg

Merkel's suit is absolutely untraditional. The traditional female suit looks like this. This is the second half of the 19th century female suit style. It is absolutely stunning and womanly.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e9/5d/23/e95d230499cd1a1e74cd9fc85b53206c.jpg

https://vintagehandbook.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/my-fair-lady-audrey-hepburn-jeremy-brett.jpg

http://31.media.tumblr.com/36de94e5ac1cbbfd66955b5cd3a5ba6a/tumblr_mvovayiP1G1r0t4wwo4_500.gif

Spjabork
Thursday, March 9th, 2017, 12:36 PM
Yup. :puke

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3d/f3/dc/3df3dcfae57481abc54e556c81692ada.jpg
One of the best shots on this board!:) Only Muhammad Ovambaa embracing Trump could topple this!:D Both in western suits, of course!;)

Ęmeric
Thursday, March 9th, 2017, 11:07 PM
The suit is a traditional European costum. This was the general costum of Europe, before after the lost WWII the American fashion has changed the European (jeans trouser, jeans jacket, sportshoes, etc.). Nowadays the suit is disappeared from the streets of Europe, it has becomen an uniform of a few job like as business, policy, security.

We were discussing this at another forum on the subject of "Casual Fridays". The suit use to be common place in America. Even blue collar workers, who didn't wear suits on a daily basis, wore shirts with collars. (Otherwise why would they be called Blue Collar?) Tee-shirts are a type of underwear in that they were intended to be worn under a proper shirt. Jeans use to be worn by farmers, lumberjacks and cowboys. I guess the spoiled rich kids at the leftist universities took it up to look proletariat.

As a very young child I might run around the house in a tee shirt but I had to put on a real shirt if we went to the store. Up until the third grade no one wore jeans to school. Many schools (public) wouldn't allow it. Then we moved to a rural area where jeans were allowed and girls were allowed to wear pants!

Since the sixties Americans have become poorer but this has been disguise through fashion trends. Nowadays, jeans and tee-shirts are fashion statements. Compared to when I was a child most people look like bums.

SpearBrave
Friday, March 10th, 2017, 01:36 AM
Nothing wrong with wearing a collared work shirts I wear them a lot, but the modern suits and hair styles look too metro sexual and gay.

Žoreišar
Friday, March 10th, 2017, 06:38 AM
I think the extruding of the traditional European clothing, the suit and the more elegant ones like as Dinnerjacket, Tailcoat, Frockcoat and the female variants, the beutiful long skirts, bluses, this is the part of the erasing of the whole European culture, someones want delete our costumes, our religion, our languages, our habits, our race, our nations, our past.Some modern, conventional clothing has actually quite traditional origins.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Thorsberg_Trousers.jpg
Germanic trousers of the 4th century found in the Thorsberg moor, Germany

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Hood-1100s.png
Hood from the 12th century

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/45/0b/c1/450bc1f30e57fab052db2cd4a681f5e4.jpg
Plaid piece of cloth, linked to the Hallstatt culture


What are you thoughts about this? Do you use to wear elegant clothing?I use a suit in funerals. That's pretty much it. Don't really like the look or feel of them too much. Suits are too uniform and boring, in my opinion. Being adopted across the World, they are devoid of cultural uniqueness, more fitting for office work and politicians, rather than showing pride in your culture.

For the sake of traditionalism and elegance, I'd rather go for traditional folk costumes. :)