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Theudanaz
Wednesday, February 9th, 2005, 07:28 AM
Danes re-elected "hardliner" Anders Fogh Rasmussen.
I hope the government will crack down on immigrants as promised.
The problem is, this government makes a lot of promises.
Denmark can't take much more of these so-called asylum seekers
who don't wish to integrate, and who take vacations in their home
countries often (which they are supposed to have left for persecution!).

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=732&e=6&u=/nm/20050209/wl_nm/denmark_elections_dc

Fraxinus Excelsior
Wednesday, February 9th, 2005, 07:51 AM
Danes re-elected "hardliner" Anders Fogh Rasmussen.
I hope the government will crack down on immigrants as promised.
The problem is, this government makes a lot of promises.
Denmark can't take much more of these so-called asylum seekers
who don't wish to integrate, and who take vacations in their home
countries often (which they are supposed to have left for persecution!).

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=732&e=6&u=/nm/20050209/wl_nm/denmark_elections_dcI hope so as well; but, unfortunately, some idiots (politicians in particular) actually support non-Europid immigration to Scandinavia.

Theudanaz
Sunday, June 19th, 2005, 07:44 AM
Immigrants and refugees in Denmark are buying up land and building large villas in their original homelands. But the streams of wealth often pass by the local populations, because the costs of living are squeezed in the weather. Islamabad, Pakistan




Four billion crowns, equivalent to one-third of the total Danish uhlan (sic = ? foreign) assistance of 12 billion crowns. Refugees and immigrants in Denmark sent almost as much much home last year to their birth countries, according to the latest numbers from the world's bank Jylland post has gotten estimates of.



Immigrants in Denmark send home the second most in comparison with number of inhabitants; 100 crowns less per year than immigrants in Norway. Especially Turks, Pakistanis and Iranis send home a lot of money. According to OECD, which has specified the numbers, they sent home in the year 2000 respectively 534, 108 and 76 million crowns to their birth countries from Denmark.



"It is money that has a colossal meaning for Pakistan," says Dr. Azizullah Khattak, director of statistics in the State Bank of Pakistan in Islamabad.



Pakistan has registered record high amounts sent from guest workers in other countries the last three years. The money constitutes today six percent of the country's gross national product, equivalent to about 21 billion crowns. But the money isn't spreading easily everywhere.
Abdul Quyyum Bhatti is the mayor of the town of Kharian in an area popularly called "Little Scandinavia", southeast of Pakistan's capital Islamabad. This is where almost all Danish and Norwegian Pakistani's have their roots. "The rich get richer, and the poor poorer. Those who don't have family in Denmark don't have the ability to live here, because danish-pakistanis squeeze the rent prices up by buying land. Only a few of them are doing something for the local community. Most don't do anything. They build palaces and then we onliy see them when they're on vacation," he says.

http://www.jp.dk/indland/artikel:aid=3114308/

Oskorei
Sunday, June 19th, 2005, 08:13 AM
The ones with their own palaces will be easy to repatriate. :D

Theudanaz
Sunday, June 19th, 2005, 09:57 PM
If I was God for a day... or better, Danish secretary of immigration...

Theudanaz
Monday, June 20th, 2005, 10:57 PM
Young immigrants do poorly on the military boards' written test.

Integration Consultant: It already is going wrong in kindergarten.
(TV AVISEN 21:00)

28 percent of all immigrants flunk the IQ test on the military boards, while the number is only seven percent among Danes. This is shown in a report from the Military Academy.

The examination was given from september 2003 till june 2004 and is based on 22,646 boards results.

According to the report verbal problems might not only explain the great discrepency in the boards' written test.

The research also points out that the cause could be a lack of motivation, and that young immigrants have parents who came to Denmark without an education in their home country.

Immigrant Children Understimulated:

Military academy chief psychologist, Stig Meincke, also thinks that the main explanation is that immigrant children are understimulated at home.

"They aren't getting stimulated in the same way that danish kids are. You have to be stimulated to develop a talent, and it's not easy if you're alone too much and aren't interacting with other people," said Stig Meincke to TV-avisen.

According to Stig Meincke children and youth typically face demands and challenges in kindergarten or recreation centers.

Boards statistics:
DK ET
Boards-treated, number 21.167 1.479
Qualifying % 61,1 45,3
Physical, qualifying limit % 11,3 8,0
Physical, not qualifying % 20,7 18,6
Written, not qualifying % 4,7 19,3
Physical / Written, not qualifying% 2,1 8,8
Total 100 100

Less than qualifying (in all physical) % 34,1 35,4
Less than qualifying (in all written) % 6,8 28,1

DK = Danes, ET = Immigrants and recent arrivals


"That's why the society has to ensure that immigrants get into kindergarten and recreation centers early and, taken as a whole, get integrated into the danish society," he said.

They lack language and concepts

According to school inspector Olav Nielsen at Humlehave school in Vollsmose in Odense, many young immigrants lack both linguistic and conceptual preparedness, for instance vocabulary.

"A lot of young people grow up in families with lots of children in environments with relatively poor stimulation. And if you don't have language or concepts, you have a hard time solving complicated tasks," said Olav Nielsen. He thinks that in the home there is scarce interest in the kids' education.

In light of the examination Olav Nielsen invites society to help immigrants get to work having an education.

"It is the key to solving many of the social problems that are taking the headlines in the press all the time," he said.

Translated from
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/article.jhtml?articleID=260213

Oskorei
Tuesday, June 21st, 2005, 07:19 AM
According to the report verbal problems might not only explain the great discrepency in the boards' written test.

The research also points out that the cause could be a lack of motivation, and that young immigrants have parents who came to Denmark without an education in their home country.

Immigrant Children Understimulated:

Military academy chief psychologist, Stig Meincke, also thinks that the main explanation is that immigrant children are understimulated at home.
I wonder if the results are the same as they get in their home-countries. In that case it should be explained using genetics, not language and "motivation". But of course that is a modern taboo.

QuietWind
Tuesday, June 21st, 2005, 03:20 PM
This sounds like the same sort of reasoning and arguements often given in America for the low IQ, high drop out rates, etc. of minorities. They blame it on the lack of parental education and an unstimulating environment at an early age. They blame it on motivational issues and the cultural attitudes of the people towards tests and education. They even blame the tests as being biased. They create huge programs like headstart designed to give disadvantaged children a good start in school and provide them with equal stimulation and learning experiences early in life. The results of headstart programs are actually poor. Studies have found that as long as a child stays enrolled in head start throughout elementary school, the child does indeed maintain an at least average educational standing. As soon as enrollment in the program ceases (for whatever reason) the child slowly declines and slips back to their pre-headstart level of aptitude. Although the long term results of headstart programs show a poor outcome, taxpayers are constantly throwing more and more money into the programs.

GreenHeart
Sunday, October 9th, 2005, 01:42 AM
Blame it on anything but the fact that they are inferior... :blueroll:

Hardwig
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 05:40 AM
Why the Danish people are more conscious about immigration issues than other Europeans? I heard that among the Scandinavians they are known for their growing aversion to foreigners especially middle-easterners.The Danish Government also sent troops to Iraq ,is the Danish people approving this action? Danish opinions are welcome of course:)..http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4276963.stm

Hagalaz
Monday, November 21st, 2005, 06:06 AM
Wonderful :)

Dbv
Thursday, November 24th, 2005, 11:53 AM
I dont think we Danes are more concious about the immigration problems than our Scandinavian neighbours. In my opinion, what differs is the willingness to take up the less popular and or political incorrect issues such as this and dare explain them in public instead of keeping our concerns behind the walls of our homes. These conducts were taken to a new level with the formation of The Danish Peoples Party (DPP) where "ordinary" people came together and made their own party, and moved on to discussing these concerns, not just in public, but in the political forum.

A short explanation of the "ordinary"-term is probably in order here:
Right from the beginning DPP was formed mostly by less educated people eg. Pia Kjærsgaard, the head of the party comes from a background of elderly-care. And thus it was primarily seen as a voice of the common people, the garbagemen, factoryworkers etc. etc.. And these "ordinary" people dared discuss topics that scholars and the more traditional partys would never dream of being so frank about. This, i think, woke the rest of the politicians and opinionmakers etc. from their slumber, they suddenly realized that this down-to-earth way of discussing political issues, really appealed to the general public and that the party they had initially jested about was actually becoming a very real force in the political field.

Now DPP, although it still has the same leader, is no longer just a party for the commoners, the political ideas and thoughts are no longer just angry mewlings (if it ever was that), the ideas are growing into a more valid ideology, that touches all areas, not just the immigration-issue. And likewise, more educated people are joining the party and are being elected into key-posisitons and in effect turning the movement into more of a real party.

It took the ordinary people to turn on the machinery, but the finer adjustments will need more refined knowledge and skills, so to speak...

What i mean to say is that these concerns exists widely in the other scandinvian people as well, but the public are less likely to jump forth and speak their mind, than Danes. I think this is due to an old Danish way of thinking called "Janteloven", in short it means that noone is any better than the rest, thus we have garbagemen and elderlycare-workers uttering things like: "Sure, you politicians are more educated than me but that doesn't mean you know more than me! you may have spent half your life studying these matters, but you are not better than me. Now move aside and let me show you wiseasses how it's supposed to be done".

Well summa sumarum; the strategy Pia Kjærsgaard brung forth to lower the immigration-boom and strengthen the integration of these newcommers, seems to be working, the low social payments named in the article are getting more people to get jobs and the damage done by the explosive immigration in the 80's and 90's are slowly being repaired, the new-danes are actually in a wider degree learning the language and the customs of their new home. And now it seems many other european contrys are learning from Denmarks hard-line politic...

Frid
Saturday, December 17th, 2005, 10:40 PM
The articles are written in Danish. How has this been met by Danish media and Danish society?

http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=425025

http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=425022

Oskorei
Saturday, December 17th, 2005, 10:54 PM
I usually read Berlingske Tidende (bt.dk) and Jyllands-Posten (jp.dk) on a daily basis, and this hasn't been commented at all.

Basically it's politically correct artists who whine about their side not controlling the public discussions anymore. Ie. whining about being in the situation that our side was in in Denmark for decades, and still is in in most countries.

Frid
Sunday, December 18th, 2005, 10:18 PM
Haha. Yes, I guess that sums it up quite well. The question is if their ideas have any wider support among the population though.

Oskorei
Monday, December 19th, 2005, 06:25 AM
Haha. Yes, I guess that sums it up quite well. The question is if their ideas have any wider support among the population though.

Not among the regular people I think. In Denmark the usual term for immigrants is "de fremmede", "the aliens".

Jekatrina
Thursday, January 26th, 2006, 02:17 PM
Not among the regular people I think. In Denmark the usual term for immigrants is "de fremmede", "the aliens".

Correct!

Blutwölfin
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 09:36 AM
A new population forecast shows that birth rates among immigrant women have dropped so low that population forecasts need to be changed

Birth rates among immigrant women have dropped so much that predictions of the number of second and third generation Danes have been changed, according to new calculations by the independent Dream Institute.

In 1980 immigrant women gave birth to an average of four children. Today, the number has fallen to 2.4 children.

'It was very surprising that the birth frequency among immigrants from lesser developed country was so low,' said Lars Haagen Pedersen, a researcher with the Dream Institute, to daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten.

The fall in proportion is due to the older age of women immigrating to the country. There are also fewer immigrants from the lesser developed countries where large families are the norm, reported Jyllands-Posten.

The drop in numbers will have a drastic impact on the ethnic composition of Denmark in the long term, said Pedersen.

Compared to the last population forecast in 2004, the predicted number of immigrants and their descendants has almost halved from 15.3 percent. The lower birth rate means that immigrants and their descendants from countries like Turkey, Somalia, Lebanon and Iraq will constitute just under eight percent of Denmark's population in 2080.


Source (http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=3879248/)

Amorsite
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 10:58 AM
The lower birth rate means that immigrants and their descendants from countries like Turkey, Somalia, Lebanon and Iraq will constitute just under eight percent of Denmark's population in 2080.


Source (http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=3879248/)
less than 8 percent? thats great only that i have trouble believing it. more immigrants will come still, those predictions are only for the immigrants already there

Gundahar
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 12:37 PM
I think its just a propaganda lie. How high is the birth rate of native Danes? Certainly lower than the birth rate of immigrants and there is still immigration. But however, maybe the Danes dont give them so much money just for breeding, like we stupid Germans do.

Blutwölfin
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 01:55 PM
Please mark that Danish Mass Media (and Jyllands Posten is, even if they published "mean cartoons") is not generally against multiculturism and foreigners spreading in their country. If this was news from e.g. Den Svenske or Dansk Front you might call it "Propaganda".

Bridie
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 02:06 PM
I can believe that the fertility rate has dropped to 2.4, but still this is too high. It is still above replacement level, meaning the immigrant/non-native population will grow with time, while the native Dane fertility rate is below replacement level - the overall fertility rate for Denmark is way below replacement level (can't remember the exact figure off-hand, but I know it's below 1.7), even when it includes immigrants, so imagine what the native fertility rate is like on it's own!

Therefore the immigrant population will grow and the native Danish population will recede. How many centuries on this course before the foreigners outnumber the natives?

Æmeric
Sunday, August 13th, 2006, 03:29 PM
Long-term forecasts are unreliable. In 1970 the U.S Census Bureau predicted the U.S. population would be 271 million in 2000. It was actually 281 million. The population of the U.S. was suppose to peak at 276 million in 2037 but in reality will surpass 300 million this October.

Alfa
Thursday, August 17th, 2006, 10:33 PM
Well obviously it's all in the definitions of 'immigrants and desendants'. The terms are abused here as they always are in government financed researches dealing with immigration. The swedes should know that perfectly well.

To the term 'desendants' is most likely only counted desendants of immigrants of the 1. generation, which seems to be the commonly adopted definition used in public population forecasts.

Other forecasts done by independent researcers and with other definitions (the ones we all know perfectly well as true!!!) says, that the Danes will be a minority before 2100. And the Swedes will be a minority before 2050.

Se på dansk:
http://dendanskeforening.dk/side53-cid-53-aid-1165-mid-1-params-1.html

Weiler
Friday, August 25th, 2006, 06:55 AM
Interesting.

While 2.4 is still too high, for reasons Bridie pointed out, the tendency is for succeeding immigrant generations to have lower birthrates than their parents. In other words, if immigrants at a certain time had a fertility rate of 2.4, their children will tend to have lower rates, like 2.1 or something. Then the 3rd generation will have a rate like 1.8.

So, that 2.4 rate can probably be considered an upper end. Succeeding generations will have rates tending toward the Danish norm.

At least that's how it usually works. I don't know of any exceptions to this, though there certainly could be some.

Now if we could only get the native Danes to have more kids.

Luftslott
Friday, August 25th, 2006, 11:37 PM
Racemixing is still a big problem. :| And I don´t think they have counted in that.

laman
Saturday, September 30th, 2006, 09:20 PM
I think its just a propaganda lie. How high is the birth rate of native Danes? Certainly lower than the birth rate of immigrants and there is still immigration. But however, maybe the Danes dont give them so much money just for breeding, like we stupid Germans do.

As far as I heard social payments generally, including to refugees much higher in Nordic countries than in other European countries. Thus, I dont think that the Germany government gives (or/ and is able to give ) more than the Denmark government does.

Just for your info. :)

Aeric
Monday, October 2nd, 2006, 08:12 PM
As far as I heard social payments generally, including to refugees much higher in Nordic countries than in other European countries. Thus, I dont think that the Germany government gives (or/ and is able to give ) more than the Denmark government does.

Just for your info. :)

Until a few years ago, the wording of the social benefits legislation in Germany was open to manipulation and opportunism. The crunch came when the media discovered a welfare-funded Black who was living in TWO nice homes that were equipped with every kind of luxury item you can imagine (including state of the art home audio/cinema systems). The man also had a couple of fine automobiles and usually turned up to sign for his payments dressed in $400 suits.

How did he manage to gain such a wonderful lifestyle at the expense of German taxpayers? The legislation contained a clause which stated that it was the nation's responsibility to provide the means for the destitute to live with dignity and comfort (just like the average citizen). The black thief (and others like him) ruthlessly exploited this loophole with the aid of sharp lawyers.

I believe that the clause has been altered since that time.

Perhaps Germany could afford to be even more generous to immigrants if the nation did not pay out huge sums in blood money every year to the State of Israel? I am not sure of the exact figures - but it amounts to many millions.

Aeric

Blutwölfin
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 06:25 PM
The Danish People"s Party anticipate that the tight Danish immigrant policy will be undermined by an enormous flow of immigrants from Sweden. It fears that, in particular, many Iraqi immigrants will come to Denmark.

Sweden expects to take in 30,000-40,000 new immigrants this year and that the figure over the next four years altogether will be around 100,000. In November 2006 1,400 Iraqis came to Sweden. By comparison, in the same period, 62 Iraqis came to Denmark, writes "Jylands-Posten".

The Danish People"s Party wants to prevent immigrants with a residence permit travelling freely to Denmark or one of the other Nordic countries on the basis of the right for freedom to live anywhere in the Nordic countries, said the party"s foreign spokesman, Søren Espersen. He is also a member of the Danish Delegation to the Nordic Council. The Council is gathered for meetings in Helsinki from 29-30 January.

If worst comes to the worst, Søren Espersen calls for a repeal of the Nordic agreement on freedom of residence. The Minister of Integration, Rikke Hvilshøj from the Liberal Party and the Social Democratic Integration Spokesman, Lotte Bundsgaard were both against this. The latter said:

"Why should so many immigrants who are well integrated in Sweden move to Denmark? I agree with the minister that there are so many good things in Nordic co-operation which we do not want to throw out with the bath water. Many Danes have moved to Sweden and work in Denmark, so we use each other"s labour and have freedom of movement.



Source (http://www.norden.org/webb/news/news.asp?id=6718&lang=6)

Carl
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 06:34 PM
The Danes have every right to be angry. Sweden is behaving disgracefully. I would never have thought a Scandinavian country would sink so low! But then , the world is all upside down. Perhaps the end is near!!:-O

sheriff skullface
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 06:35 PM
The Danish People"s Party anticipate that the tight Danish immigrant policy will be undermined by an enormous flow of immigrants from Sweden. It fears that, in particular, many Iraqi immigrants will come to Denmark.

Sweden expects to take in 30,000-40,000 new immigrants this year and that the figure over the next four years altogether will be around 100,000. In November 2006 1,400 Iraqis came to Sweden. By comparison, in the same period, 62 Iraqis came to Denmark, writes "Jylands-Posten".

The Danish People"s Party wants to prevent immigrants with a residence permit travelling freely to Denmark or one of the other Nordic countries on the basis of the right for freedom to live anywhere in the Nordic countries, said the party"s foreign spokesman, Søren Espersen. He is also a member of the Danish Delegation to the Nordic Council. The Council is gathered for meetings in Helsinki from 29-30 January.

If worst comes to the worst, Søren Espersen calls for a repeal of the Nordic agreement on freedom of residence. The Minister of Integration, Rikke Hvilshøj from the Liberal Party and the Social Democratic Integration Spokesman, Lotte Bundsgaard were both against this. The latter said:

"Why should so many immigrants who are well integrated in Sweden move to Denmark? I agree with the minister that there are so many good things in Nordic co-operation which we do not want to throw out with the bath water. Many Danes have moved to Sweden and work in Denmark, so we use each other"s labour and have freedom of movement.



Source (http://www.norden.org/webb/news/news.asp?id=6718&lang=6)

just limiting the number swedes able to migrate denmark should solve any problem, a few swedes should still be allowed to come there

Patrioten
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 08:11 PM
Yes, those "tough" immigration laws wont mean squat when the people who come here to Sweden get a citizenship as soon as their feet touch Swedish soil, and with our wide open borders inbetween the nordic nations, the immigration plague will spill over to our neighbors as well.

Carl
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 08:55 PM
Yes, those "tough" immigration laws wont mean squat when the people who come here to Sweden get a citizenship as soon as their feet touch Swedish soil, and with our wide open borders inbetween the nordic nations, the immigration plague will spill over to our neighbors as well.

.... and how do you feel about that? Is it not sad to inflict this on another country... even if it is one that is so close. Maybe its too easy for me to care about Denmark; ha! maybe it takes my mind away from the current state of England!! :thumbdown

Patrioten
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 09:00 PM
.... and how do you feel about that? Is it not sad to inflict this on another country... even if it is one that is so close. Maybe its too easy for me to care about Denmark; ha! maybe it takes my mind away from the current state of England!! :thumbdownI feel hatred towards the establishment who put us in this situation. I feel angry at the Swedish people for allowing this to happen, but i bear no guilt in this. I was born into this nightmarish state of multi culturalism and will do everything in my power to see it coming to a halt.

Aragorn
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 09:27 PM
We are living in a decadente time, people are ignorant; they think they can disobey natural laws. Gayparades, free drugs, phaedophiles, mosques, all races mixing with each other....

It is a state of a living nightmare if you want to raise your children in a decent way. A hard job to anyone who has kids:~(

ChaosLord
Monday, January 29th, 2007, 11:50 PM
We are living in a decadente time, people are ignorant; they think they can disobey natural laws. Gayparades, free drugs, phaedophiles, mosques, all races mixing with each other....

It is a state of a living nightmare if you want to raise your children in a decent way. A hard job to anyone who has kids:~(

Very true! It's the effects of "globalization" and media multi-culturalism from the U. (a)S(s) of A. The "in-crowd" thinks it's cool to mingle with and fornicate with other races while being sorry and ashamed of being white. Plus, nowadays if you say anything "offensive" or something that ethnic people don't "agree with" you are labeled as racist and intolerant and are therefore alienated from society. Pretty sick way of using our own laws and freedoms against us while the untermensch invade unchecked and unchallenged.

Peoples Observer
Tuesday, January 30th, 2007, 09:43 AM
QUOTE "The Danish People"s Party anticipate that the tight Danish immigrant policy will be undermined by an enormous flow of immigrants from Sweden. It fears that, in particular, many Iraqi immigrants will come to Denmark.
Sweden expects to take in 30,000-40,000 new immigrants this year and that the figure over the next four years altogether will be around 100,000. In November 2006 1,400 Iraqis came to Sweden. By comparison, in the same period, 62 Iraqis came to Denmark, writes "Jylands-Posten".
The Danish People"s Party wants to prevent immigrants with a residence permit travelling freely to Denmark or one of the other Nordic countries on the basis of the right for freedom to live anywhere in the Nordic countries, said the party"s foreign spokesman, Søren Espersen. He is also a member of the Danish Delegation to the Nordic Council. The Council is gathered for meetings in Helsinki from 29-30 January.
If worst comes to the worst, Søren Espersen calls for a repeal of the Nordic agreement on freedom of residence. The Minister of Integration, Rikke Hvilshøj from the Liberal Party and the Social Democratic Integration Spokesman, Lotte Bundsgaard were both against this. The latter said:
"Why should so many immigrants who are well integrated in Sweden move to Denmark? I agree with the minister that there are so many good things in Nordic co-operation which we do not want to throw out with the bath water. Many Danes have moved to Sweden and work in Denmark, so we use each other"s labour and have freedom of movement".



I commend the Danes for their courage to oppose this inter-border infiltration of more semites into their land.

Out of all the Nordic countries Denmark seems to have the most preservation instincts. And they seem to be tougher and more Racially loyal.

HAIL DANMARK

Pro-Alpine
Tuesday, January 30th, 2007, 01:12 PM
Too bad they didin't stop immigration in general.

SineNomine
Tuesday, January 30th, 2007, 11:43 PM
I have a question: why is Sweden so stupid? I really am baffled by how neither politicians nor citizens take any good measures to limit immigration (and/or the abominable "welfare" state). I am sure there are those in the minority who are against it, but it seems no one else wants to do anything about it. :|

ChaosLord
Tuesday, February 6th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Well, from what I've gathered, Sweden is having the same problem as the U.S. is. We're both allowing anybody in the country without question, whether the native population likes it or not. It's an apparent effect of "globalization" and "multi-culturalism" where we HAVE TO accept other peoples and if we don't then we are labeled as "racist" and "intolerant". We are all programmed to pretty much keep our mouths shut and look the other way regardless of what is going on. The U.S.'s excuse is because we supposedly "need" these people and the always apparent "we are a country of immigrants". As for Sweden, I don't know too much about the politics, but I can see that they are headed down a long road of degeneration, which is truly a shame.

Enlil
Wednesday, February 7th, 2007, 12:15 AM
The U.S.'s excuse is because we supposedly "need" these people and the always apparent "we are a country of immigrants". As for Sweden, I don't know too much about the politics, but I can see that they are headed down a long road of degeneration, which is truly a shame.

Amazingly, some people even claim Sweden is a "country of immigrants". The crap about "needing" the immigrants to take care of our ageing population is also common, as is bohoooing about the poor refugees, and of course, anyone who says differently is a.. *drumroll*.. racist.

SineNomine
Wednesday, February 7th, 2007, 04:30 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/stories/ny-woswed045080055feb04,0,7611519.story

Another nice on-topic article. :)

ChaosLord
Thursday, February 15th, 2007, 01:15 AM
Amazingly, some people even claim Sweden is a "country of immigrants". The crap about "needing" the immigrants to take care of our ageing population is also common, as is bohoooing about the poor refugees, and of course, anyone who says differently is a.. *drumroll*.. racist.

Indeed. Here, in the U.S., the median-age for a caucasian is in the 40's ( could be wrong) while hispanics is 27. This is the reason given as to why we "need" them supposedly. The answer is quite simple. The reason why we have so many aging people is because America experienced something called a 'Baby Boom' where we jumped in population. Those people are now in there 50's-60's and are a large portion of the populace. As with hispanics, when you have millions of unskilled, younger, and cheaper costing people coming in it will tend to change racial demographics. Doesn't exactly give a credible reason as to WHY we "need" them. America may have started out as a country of immigrants when it was colonized, but as of now immigrants only make up 15-20% of the populace and I don't recall George Bush being an immigrant. If we want to get in facts then EVERY country is considered a country of immigrants since humans have been roving the planet from country to country for millions of years. The political arguments are nothing more than loose ploys.

SwordOfTheVistula
Monday, August 11th, 2008, 08:42 PM
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/224659,danes-see-strict-immigration-laws-under-threat-by-eu--feature.html

Copenhagen - Nothing in Denmark is as popular politically as the strict policy on foreigners to which the prime minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, adheres. And so the recent ruling by the European Court of Justice affirming the right of family reunification within the European Union went down in Copenhagen like a bombshell. Rasmussen and a huge majority in the Danish parliament, together with leading media, plan to defend Denmark's immigration laws with all the means at their disposal.

"We'll make sure that you can't get around our rules on family reunification by going through back doors," Rasmussen told the Politiken newspaper this week.

According to the ruling by the Luxembourg-based court, the EU's highest legal body, EU members may not refuse entry or right of residence to non-EU spouses and family members. This means a Danish citizen, having worked in another EU country, could bring his or her spouse back to Denmark even if the spouse is a failed asylum seeker or previously resided illegally in the EU.

Under current Danish law, a Dane may not bring a non-EU spouse into the country unless both partners are at least 24 years of age. Other strict conditions must be met too. For example, the Dane must lodge a bond, and the pair must show they have a permanent home and that their ties to Denmark are stronger than to any other country.

"The government considers the ruling to be wrong. It's incompatible with the EU's efforts at combating illegal immigration," declared Rasmussen, one of the more moderate voices in Denmark's increasingly nationalist-coloured debate on family reunification.

"Give Denmark Back to Us!" demanded the right-wing populist Danish People's Party (DPP) in full-page newspaper advertisements. The party's votes helped Rasmussen to push through what he calls Denmark's "tough policy on foreigners." Since 2001, the "foreigner issue" has brought his Liberal Party three consecutive election victories.

The opposition Social Democrats, who came up short in those elections, are now signalling their unconditional support in the national struggle against the EU's liberal rules. "The European Court of Justice must not be allowed to determine Denmark's policy on foreigners," said the party's leader, Helle Thorning Schmidt.

She even accused Rasmussen of not taking the "EU threat" seriously enough. "It's not a matter of just a small corner of our foreigner policy," Schmidt remarked.

Jyllands-Posten, Denmark's largest newspaper, also sees the EU court's ruling as fundamentally problematic. "Denmark's foreigner policy has failed," opined the paper, which is pointedly critical of Islam and gained worldwide notoriety for publishing caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed.

Danish nurse-in-training Ditte Reisz has come to the same conclusion, though for a different reason. Like thousands of her fellow Danes, she emigrated - along with her Israeli husband - to neighbouring Sweden because of Denmark's strict immigration restrictions on spouses. Sweden's rules are more liberal and its media, in contrast to Denmark's, are not dominated by the "foreigner issue" day after day.

In an angry letter to the editor, Reisz rebuked Danish authorities for apparently having deliberately kept her in the dark about a 2004 EU directive on free movement and residence rights for non-EU spouses and family members, which the Luxembourg court ruling upheld.

"I'm ashamed of a country that supposedly stands for freedom and democracy and has now put so many people in this situation," she wrote.

Observers in Copenhagen foresee massive domestic political problems for Rasmussen.

The DPP, on whose support his minority government relies, is calling for an all-out fight "against Brussels" - to the point of ignoring the court ruling. But even Copenhagen cannot simply skirt EU law, which a likely parade of lawsuits by people caught up in Denmark's tight immigration rules will show.

Easy way to avoid this EU law-just withdraw from the EU!

Thrymheim
Monday, August 11th, 2008, 09:30 PM
I hope they have the guts to fight, I would especialy like it if a country did manage to pull out of the EU it might give our government more spine when it comes to defending our rights and interests.

ChaosLord
Tuesday, August 12th, 2008, 01:07 AM
Since when did the EU control the laws of sovereign European countries? I must be out of the mix in this. Denmark should have the right to allow in who they wish and don't wish into their country. Saying that Denmark's immigration policy is too restrictive or illegal is just a means of trying to force a lax system into this country so any non-European can get in with no questions asked. Hopefully, Denmark will back!

Psychonaut
Tuesday, August 12th, 2008, 02:15 AM
I just hope that we Americans and Canadians see just how damning the EU has become to Europe. We must not allow the proposed North American Union to ever be instated, for it would be just as bad, if not worse for us.

Balder Odense
Wednesday, August 13th, 2008, 10:02 PM
EU is a copy off USA one goverment one law.
Many people in Denmark just got enough now.
One nation one law (fuck EU)

Hrodnand
Wednesday, August 13th, 2008, 11:38 PM
At least, someone has the guts to stand up against the E.U's ridiculous immigration policies. Anyway I personally was expecting for an event like this with time. I truly hope they will succeed.

Oski
Wednesday, August 13th, 2008, 11:49 PM
Perhaps Denmark should join into a union with Norway.

Norway seems to have it right.

Sigurd
Thursday, August 14th, 2008, 05:12 AM
Assaults in Sweden are 400% more than in Denmark, Murders are 961% more common, and rapes 798% more common in Sweden than in Denmark. Could this haven anything to do with the "more liberal approach" to immigration?

Sigurd
Thursday, August 14th, 2008, 05:38 AM
Since when did the EU control the laws of sovereign European countries? I must be out of the mix in this. Denmark should have the right to allow in who they wish and don't wish into their country. Saying that Denmark's immigration policy is too restrictive or illegal is just a means of trying to force a lax system into this country so any non-European can get in with no questions asked. Hopefully, Denmark will back!

Let a Law student who just sat his EU Law exam the other day answer this in detail. :p

The thing that started all off was undoubtedly the case of Van Gend en Loos in 1963, where the principle of direct effect was created by the European Court of Justice (ECJ). Basically, provisions of Community law may, if appropriately framed, confer rights and impose obligations on individuals which national courts are bound to recognise and enforce.

For the principle of "supremacy over national law", other cases however are more guiding.

Case 6/64 Costa v ENEL, [1964] ECR 585 (read online at http://curia.europa.eu/en/content/juris/index.htm) was the landmark decision.

"[Community law is] an independent source of law, [which] could not, because of its special original nature, be overridden by domestic legal provisions...without being deprived of its character as Community law and without the legal basis of the Community itself being called into question."

European Court of Justice refers to EEC Treaty as the "constitutional charter of a Community based on the rule of law": Opinion 1/91 on the Draft Agreement relating to the creation of a European Economic Area, [1991] ECR I-6079. (not online as far as I am aware)

See also Case 11/70 Internationale Handelsgesellschaft v Einfuhr-und Vorratsstelle [1970] ECR 1125 (should also be online at abovementioned link) - here it was held once more that "community law takes precedence over national law", and that this also included Constitutional law.

Come 1977, we have the case 106/77, Amministrazione delle Finanze dello Stato v Simmenthal [1978] ECR 629. Held, that "binding community law takes precedence over all provisions of national law, even those enacted subsequently to the community measure".

Other interesting cases to that effect are also Case C-213/89 R v Secretary of State for Transport, ex parte Factortame Ltd and others [1990] ECR I-2433, "The principle of [direct effect] of Community law requires national courts to grant interim relief to a party suffering loss caused by an alleged breach of Community law", as well as the cases on limitation periods and rules for such to be compliant with the principles of equivalece and affectiveness: See Cases C-10-22/97 Ministero delle Finanze v IN.Co.GE ’90 Srl and Others, [1998] ECR I-6307; Case C-312/93 Peterbroeck Van Compenhart Cre SCS v Belgium [1995] ECR I-4599; Cases C-430 & 431/93 Von Schijndel and van Veen v Stichting Pensioexfonds voor Fysiotherapeuten [1995] ECRI- 4705.

Makes a bit more sense now? ;)

rainman
Tuesday, September 30th, 2008, 09:55 PM
So you can form a community, make up your own laws and completely ignore national laws? What kind of nation would write that into its own laws?

Old Winter
Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 07:29 PM
Danish nurse-in-training Ditte Reisz has come to the same conclusion, though for a different reason. Like thousands of her fellow Danes, she emigrated - along with her Israeli husband - to neighbouring Sweden because of Denmark's strict immigration restrictions on spouses. Sweden's rules are more liberal and its media, in contrast to Denmark's, are not dominated by the "foreigner issue" day after day.


That is because Jews have more power in Sweden then in Denmark, ofcourse she will not say a word about the ten times more strict immigration laws of Israel, why don't you move to Israel, you people cried for it now move to it.

Delos
Thursday, October 2nd, 2008, 04:28 AM
So you can form a community, make up your own laws and completely ignore national laws? What kind of nation would write that into its own laws?

I'll take "What was the United States of America's Civil War fought for?" for $200 please Alex.

forkbeard
Saturday, October 4th, 2008, 11:06 AM
I don't think the EU will last much longer. If Germany ever withdrew from the EU it would collapse out of lack of funds. Germany is the largest contributer to EU so it is just a way of enslaving the Germans and riding their backs.

Hauke Haien
Saturday, October 4th, 2008, 03:26 PM
The problem lies in the fact that we have an international economic system that encourages mass immigration and a form of government that corresponds to it. Any attempt to break out of this system would result in an US attempt to get us back under control. It has become impossible for any European nation to resist such efforts on its own, not even Russia is fully capable of this.

The EU currently serves as an enforcer of the international system. There's nothing particularly wrong with the structure as such, only its content (i.e. EU law) has to be replaced with ours and it has to be reshaped to suit our needs.

I am getting a bit tired of US conservatives telling us to disband the EU and throw ourselves at their benevolent feet. The US is not going to save Europe, quite the contrary.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, January 31st, 2009, 06:41 AM
The problem lies in the fact that we have an international economic system that encourages mass immigration and a form of government that corresponds to it. Any attempt to break out of this system would result in an US attempt to get us back under control. It has become impossible for any European nation to resist such efforts on its own, not even Russia is fully capable of this.

The EU currently serves as an enforcer of the international system. There's nothing particularly wrong with the structure as such, only its content (i.e. EU law) has to be replaced with ours and it has to be reshaped to suit our needs.

I am getting a bit tired of US conservatives telling us to disband the EU and throw ourselves at their benevolent feet. The US is not going to save Europe, quite the contrary.

The US is not run by Germanic conservatives. It is run by Jews and their cohorts, and I think the whole house of cards is about to come tumbling down. US conservatives, especially nationalists like myself, want the EU gone because it impedes the freedom of the member states. Many of us love our homelands as the centers of our collective souls and it pains us greatly to see Jews dictate that they be overrun by Muslims and Africans. Those abominations Sarkozy and Louis Michel in particular need to go. Multiculturalists and other leftists are simply the worst evil that exists. They seek nothing short of the destruction of our Germanic blood and soul. It is genocide, and the only way to fight back is with strict immigration policies like this one. Denmark must stand firm.

Hauke Haien
Saturday, January 31st, 2009, 07:02 AM
US conservatives, especially nationalists like myself, want the EU gone because it impedes the freedom of the member states.
Neither the member states nor the EU hold any meaning. What counts is that the Germanic peoples wield power that ensures their existence and future proliferation. Our inability to fight off foreign power blocs is precisely the reason why the EU is such an anti-Germanic mess that suffers a major rift because of an unwillingness to fight for the US, a completely foreign entity that is intent on becoming synonymous with the world and shaping itself as a mirror image of it.

In conclusion, it is the US that has to be disbanded first, not the EU.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, January 31st, 2009, 07:10 AM
I'm certainly in favor of the Balkanization of the US. Our government doesn't care in the least what we want, but grovels to Israel in every way. Biden went and actually bragged about being the "biggest Zionist in the senate." He knows who butters his bread. It's sad that Europe feels the need to destroy itself in the same way the US is being destroyed. Diversity doesn't "enrich" anything except perhaps those who profit from dividing and conquering. It only serves to create chaos and division.

Haereticus
Saturday, January 31st, 2009, 09:54 AM
Is this what they call 'democracy'?

Interesting to see from the following table who is really keen to 'enrich' us with the 'benefits' of Islam. Curiously, excluding Islamic nations, USA, Canada and Israel top the list.

http://danishaffairs.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/wef-report1.jpg

What Denmark really needs now is more Muslims.

http://www.albayenah.com/images/islam2denmark.jpg

http://www.albayenah.com/images/danishwelcome2islam.jpg

http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/denmark/den_islam2.jpg

http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/denmark.htm

Remind me to boycott Carrefour
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/files/carrefour-boycott.jpg


Since when did the EU control the laws of sovereign European countries? I must be out of the mix in this. Denmark should have the right to allow in who they wish and don't wish into their country. Saying that Denmark's immigration policy is too restrictive or illegal is just a means of trying to force a lax system into this country so any non-European can get in with no questions asked. Hopefully, Denmark will back!

Since January 1973 when they voted to join the European Union. The EU is effectively a federation.

As you're probably aware, a similar situation has existed in North America since 1865, where US federal law overrules state law.


The disastrous Presidents:

1. Abraham Lincoln - The slaughter of 600,000 Americans in an unlawful war of conquest. The forcible overthrow and subjugation of the Confederate States. Too many abuses of power to even list. Lincoln's tyranny set the pattern for the tyranny of the Federal Government and the subsequent Presidents, all the way to the current one...

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1241961&page=2

Haereticus
Saturday, January 31st, 2009, 10:58 AM
I don't think the EU will last much longer. If Germany ever withdrew from the EU it would collapse out of lack of funds. Germany is the largest contributer to EU so it is just a way of enslaving the Germans and riding their backs.

Not according to this: Britain may have overtaken Germany to become the biggest net contributor to the EU, the Treasury has admitted. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2912443/UK-first-in-Europe-for-contributions.html)

Either way, it is Britain, Germany and Sweden who are feeding the rest of Europe, as well as, directly and indirectly the third world dregs the EU seems to be making no effort to keep out. Quite the contrary, they're encouraging it with with sh*t like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6341487.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7653846.stm


It is a very good idea. It will increase the mutual understanding between Africans and Europeans. It is one of the right ways to say bye bye to injustice in the world where the westerners are oppressing other parts of the world including Africa to live more comfortable. I pray that the idea will work well and open more doors to other better ideas. We are equal in the world. I am looking forward to when Africans will not need visa to travel to the west.
Adigun Olosun, Ostbevern, Germany(Nigerian)

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/285x214/64919_1.jpg

forkbeard
Saturday, January 31st, 2009, 11:29 AM
Poor Iceland wants to join this sinking ship. Do they really want mass immigration? Laws are only laws if people obey them.

Dagna
Friday, March 6th, 2009, 01:22 PM
Hells Angels: Immigrants must clean up their act

The bloody conflict between immigrant gangs and bikers can only be stopped if responsible immigrants take responsibility and ‘clean up in their own ranks,” according to the Hells Angels biker group on its website.

The recipe for a solution to the ongoing gang warfare in Denmark comes in answer to a contribution on the Hells Angels website from an anonymous immigrant.

My home too
“I don’t understand why the Hells Angels has become a club dedicated to wiping out immigrants (Ed: see endnote) like me,” the contributor says, adding: “Wake up – it’s not all immigrants who don’t wish Denmark well. This is my home too.”

But the Hells Angels webmaster rejects the notion that the organization is trying to kindle racial hatred.

“HAMC Denmark doesn’t want to wipe out anyone. We have immigrants, as you nicely put it, (Ed: see endnote) in our own club. But just as so many other Danes and new Danes, we are tired of the mentality that some immigrants (Ed: see endnote) have,” the webmaster writes, calling on well-integrated immigrants to help solve the conflict.

“HAMC is made up of proud men with their honour intact, which is why we have the current situation. If what is going on is to be stopped, responsible immigrants and their descendants must clean up in their own ranks,” the webmaster says.

The gang warfare between immigrant and biker groups broke out in earnest in August 2008. Since then, Politiken has registered 53 shootings in Copenhagen of which most are thought to have a direct connection to the gang conflict.

Endnote: The word actually used in the texts was the Danish word for ‘pearl’ (perle) which has both a derogatory and a non-derogatory meaning in Danish.

http://politiken.dk/newsinenglish/article660850.ece

Dagna
Friday, March 13th, 2009, 04:03 PM
Harmful myths of immigration

The many myths about integration constitute a serious obstacle to the social work. Problems of integration constitute a potential disaster for our welfare societies. Part of the solution is to gain more knowledge: Good social work is dependent on sufficient information, writes Nicolai Sennels.

In my job as psychologist in the Municipality of Copenhagen I have had more than 150 immigrants, refugees and descendants in treatment. Here I will provide an overview of the integration problems as they look when instead of talking about immigrants you talk with them.

While crime among immigrants, Islamic parallel societies and Islamic extremism are having an increasing negativ impact on society, the municipal efforts in the field are still stuck in a series of myths about immigrant crime, extremism and the social efforts.

* The first myth is that there is are no differences between immigrants. But of course there are: People from different cultures need different kinds of support when they face trouble. There is a world of difference between what, say, a Japanese, a Somali and an American will need if they are having or creating trouble. We need to apply cultural sensitivity towards te cultural differences that our immigrants bring along.

My own therapeutic experience with young Muslims is, that they find it extremely difficult to understand traditional Danish pedagogics and therapy. Danish youth is to a much greater extent raised with a tradition of “talking tings over” and reflect upon how they personally feel about things.

Muslims, in contrast, are raised in a culture with clear outer authorities (fathers, tradition, Islam), where the consequence is fast and immediate when the family expectations are broken. They have been raised in a firm setting, and Danish pedagogue-speak falls short towards this group.

* The second myth is that immigrant crime is caused by social problems, and that the cultural background of immigrants have no significance in the context. Also on this one the prejudice does not fit with reality: The conclusion of hundreds of psychological interviews with Muslim immigrants is that the Muslim culture accepts aggression to a very great extent.

While an uncontrollable expression of fury is the fastest way to lose face in Danish culture, it is turned around in the Muslim. The willingness to take revenge is, in Muslim culture, considered an expression of strength, and anger is clearly more socially acceptable in Muslim circles. Aggressive behaviour is considered a social tool, used to obtain 'respect', (not merely fear), and status.

The dramatic and destructive manner that Palestinians use to show their rage over the situation in Gaza, the imams incitements to “Holy anger”, family executions (also called 'Honour killings') and violent demonstrations in response to the Muhammad cartoons are all examples of how aggressive behaviour is, in Muslim culture, considered a socially acceptable means of expression.

The fact that Muslim immigrants and descendants commit two to three times as much violent crime as ethnic Danes is also partially caused by this. So, yes: The culture of immigrants is an important component in immigrant crime.

* The third myth is that religious extremism is only found in narrow circles. This is a severe mistake. Almost each and every single Muslim I had in therapy took his/her religious tradition quite seriously. In spite of the fact that most do not follow the words of the Quran, their Muslim identity is extremely strong. The Muhammad cartons the attempts to implement democracy in the Islamic world, and pressure by authorities towards integration into the Danish society have created a strong feeling of resentment against Western values.

In particular 'rootless' young Muslims feel the attraction of extremist circles, because they are being offered a feeling of being significant and to have a purpose, of life as well as of death, that no 'social project' can match. Furthermore, religiousness is a source of status in Muslim circles – and intense religiousness gives high status. A dedicated religious practice and the ability to launch conspiracy theories about Western guilt in the appalling conditions in their Muslim home countries constitute an effective source of social recognition in Muslim parts of the society.

These experiences from my work in the Muslim parts of society are completely in line with similar research outside Denmark: 32 percent of Muslim university students in England consider religious killing justified, an d54 percent of French Muslims believe that Sharia law should be applied worldwide.

In Germany only about 12 percent of Muslims consider themselves 'Germans' and a full 6 percent are categorized as “extremely radical” with “a high degree of acceptance of religious and political violence.” 6 percent may not sound much, but if we transfer the figure to the estimated 220,000 Muslims in Denmark, which is quite reasonable, it translates into some 13,600 Islamic extremists.

* The fourth myth is that cultural and religious factors have no significance for the frequently poor social and economical situation of immigrants. The theory usually states that immigrants are poor due to causes outside their influence, and that this poverty is the cause of dysfunctional behaviour.

The correlation between poverty and social problems is real, but things are not nearly as black & white as for instance claimed by Social Mayor of Copenhagen Mikkel Warming (Enhedslisten – the Danish hard left political party). For what comes first, the chicken or the egg? Are social problems caused by poverty, or is poverty caused by social problems?

As Jyllands-Posten reported on December 19th 2008, immigrants from Muslim countries and their descendants occupy the top eight spots in the list of countries of origin for criminals – after age and social circumstances have been factored out. Figures like these put Warming and his equals to shame.

But what exactly about the Islamic culture causes humans with this background to fare so poorly economically? After hundreds of psychological interviews concerning the life in their families here in Denmark, it is clear that the primary cause of poverty in these circles is a lack of emphasis on education.

Immigrant parents could support their children in school and in higher educations much more actively. Further, it is the experience of me and many colleagues that children of Muslim immigrants lack understanding of Danish pedagogical style in schools and other educations, and that this constitutes another obstacle to their further career.

The unfortunate result is that 64 percent of children of Arab background are not able to read and write sufficiently well at their graduation from public school [9 years in Denmark], and that one third of them never receive any higher education. In a knowledge society as in Denmark, where education is a requirement for a decent salary, the economy in families becomes tight if education is not taken seriously.

The fact that up to one in four Muslim descendant of ages 20-29 received a crime sentence in the single year of 2008 does not improve employability. An individual who creates social problems and refuses to adapt to the social requirements of the society, becomes poor. These are the proper causes and effects, not the other way around.

The many myths of integration unfortunately constitute a serious obstacle in the social work in this area. When in the secure institution of Sønderbro, Copenhagen has a 70 percent share of clients with Muslim background, when LO (the Danish Labour Organisation) warns about ghettos proliferating, and when the National Bank estimates that immigrants from non-Western countries cost the Danish society Dkr 23 billion ($ 4 billion) a year, it is no exaggeration to call the integration problems a set bomb under our social society.

Part of the solution is to acquire more knowledge in the field: Good social work depends on sufficient information. We need practical research on the attitudes of various immigrant groups on their attitudes to extremism, democracy, integration, education and participation in the labour market. My on experience from hundreds of interviews is, unfortunately, that we have have a large group of immigrants who do not desire integration and are staunch opponents of democratic and humanistic values.

The battle about the causes of the failed integration is already on. Both the claims that the state gives insufficient funds to the efforts and that the municipalities do not apply the money properly are just that – claims.

After having worked for years in the largest public social organisation of Denmark, I am firmly convinced of the latter: It is our local politicans, who carry the responsibility of designing the practical integration efforts around the country.

The policies in many Danish municipalities have been to offer support and new opportunities, while only the police and the judicial system have been setting limits and showing consequences of bad behaviour. This division of labour could be adjusted with benefit.

http://europenews.dk/en/node/20695

Willow
Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Data figures show that Muslim immigrants are much happier in Denmark than in other Western European countries
Denmark has been ranked as one of the best countries in Europe in terms of satisfaction by Muslim immigrants

Despite disagreements over religion, Muslim immigrants are overwhelmingly satisfied with life in this country, according to data compiled by Statistics Denmark.

Commissioned by libertarian think-tank Cepos, the poll showed that 91 percent of people whose parents came from Muslim countries say their lives are better here than what they would be in their parents’ native countries. And 79 percent of those who immigrated to Denmark answered the same in the survey.
The figures are far above those of many other western European countries, including Germany, England and France. The only country where Muslims were more satisfied with their conditions was Spain, where illegal immigrants are given the opportunity to obtain residency.

‘This is the first time anyone has asked these people how they feel about being here,’ Geert Laier Christensen, head of research at Cepos, told Politiken newspaper. ‘And it surprised us that people of immigrant background were just as happy with Denmark as native Danes.’

One survey area where there was less satisfaction related to religion, where 40 percent of the respondents indicated they felt conditions for religious freedom were better in their native countries. Immigrants from Morocco, Palestine and Pakistan were the most dissatisfied in this area, with 42, 36 and 34 percent preferring their homelands, respectively.

But Mehmet Yüksekkaya, integration specialist with the Danish Working Environment Authority, said the survey cannot necessarily be taken at face value.

‘As a rule, immigrants will generally say what the survey questioner wants to hear,’ he said. ‘If they had a problem, they would never mention it over the telephone because they come from countries where they fear the authorities.’

As far as the political situation in Denmark goes, survey respondents were split over whether those conditions were better or worse than in their or their parents’ native country.

Forty-seven percent said the political situation in their country of origin was better than in Denmark, 35 percent said it was better in Denmark and 30 percent indicated the situation was roughly the same.

The poll included responses from 1,247 immigrants and 457 of their children.


http://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/88-national/45160-immigrants-happy-to-be-here.html

InvaderNat
Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 08:54 PM
Commissioned by libertarian think-tank Cepos, the poll showed that 91 percent of people whose parents came from Muslim countries say their lives are better here than what they would be in their parents’ native countries.http://www.cphpost.dk/news/national/88-national/45160-immigrants-happy-to-be-here.html

Really?! No s**t!:-O I'm sure their having a great time at Denmark's expense.

Old Winter
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 05:11 AM
There are ways to change that ;)

Andrew man
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 06:13 AM
Moving from a cave to a project building is a big and better difference. "Movin' on up, to the east siiiiide, to that delux apartment in the skyyyy!" lol

but seriously once more and more waves spawn the country is going to be Muslimfied.

Old Winter
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Again, make them see that they are not welcome, never ever buy at their shops, never ever help them, ignore them when they ask something, make them feel that they are unwelcome.

triedandtru
Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Denmark needs to make it harder to immigrate, as do all of the European countries. I do suppose it would be difficult, but they are all being overrun.

Huginn ok Muninn
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 07:36 AM
Who with an ounce of sense asks a home invader if they are enjoying their stay? I personally think the castle doctrine should apply to one's homeland as well. :mad

Myrkvidr
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 07:55 AM
Denmark needs to make it harder to immigrate, as do all of the European countries. I do suppose it would be difficult, but they are all being overrun.

I could be mistaken but I think that Denmark has made it a great deal more difficult to immigrate there and I've heard that the Norwegians are asking to do the same as the Danes have done.

Have also heard (it may have been here) that the EU is trying to tell Denmark that their anti-immigration policy is illegal :mad

Freja_se
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 08:43 AM
Muslims are a great threat to all Western nations. Probably the greatest. I wish politicians would begin to realize this before it is too late. They are hostile to our values, culture and society and should be deported before they outbreed us and impose sharia laws. Soon enough they will gain political power on account of their strengh in numbers.

We never wanted the whole third world to move in and get benefits and a great life totally without having done anything to deserve it, and totally at our expense. It is a crime against true Western citizens everywhere, and the responsible should be called on it.

Hauke Haien
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Muslims are a great threat to all Western nations. Probably the greatest. I wish politicians would begin to realize this before it is too late. They are hostile to our values, culture and society and should be deported before they outbreed us and impose sharia laws. Soon enough they will gain political power on account of their strengh in numbers.
I understand and share your concern, so I think we should dwell for a moment on how this was possible at all. The Muslims obviously did not win a battle against us and conquer our countries. Beyond exploiting the opportunities given to them, they cannot be credited with having done this to us.

The politicians obviously had a hand in this, but what they did happened in nearly every Western country, inside and outside of the EU, and this makes it implausible to ascribe the matter to incompetence or a deliberate act on a small scale.

My conclusion is that the causes are likely systemic and firmly rooted in what we call "the West", although the exact results that are produced differ in its various subdivisions. I think Sweden in particular was not prepared for becoming part of this and many of its own traditions have now rather disastrous effects. What is needed is for us, as Germanic peoples, to regain our existence as ethnic groups and to reclaim our political structures - or create new ones - under the premise that their purpose is to perpetuate our existence, not of everyone who happens to live on state territory and really does not belong to us. Under such a premise, immigration of unassimilable aliens could not even be contemplated without attacking the very foundation of the state.

Bärin
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 02:14 PM
Again, make them see that they are not welcome, never ever buy at their shops, never ever help them, ignore them when they ask something, make them feel that they are unwelcome.
Exactly. I'm sick and tired of "nationalists" who frown on unwelcoming attitudes towards immigrants because they find it "rude". They want to blame the politicians only, not the immigrants. But nobody forces the immigrants to come to Europe. Making them feel unwelcome is the first step a nationalist can do. Avoid them, don't buy kebabs and other garbage from their shops, don't give them any directions, don't give up your seat on public transport for them and so on.

triedandtru
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 04:17 PM
Exactly. I'm sick and tired of "nationalists" who frown on unwelcoming attitudes towards immigrants because they find it "rude". They want to blame the politicians only, not the immigrants. But nobody forces the immigrants to come to Europe. Making them feel unwelcome is the first step a nationalist can do. Avoid them, don't buy kebabs and other garbage from their shops, don't give them any directions, don't give up your seat on public transport for them and so on.

I totally agree. It sounds sort of like here in America were leftists who claim they "love America" and are "patriots" consistently vote for or support ideas that negatively effect us... For instance wanting looser immigration policy that Obama is probably going to set in motion.

Hauke Haien
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 04:51 PM
My carotid artery has been ripped open, so the obvious way to save my life is to mop up the blood that flows copiously all over the floor and while doing so, it is best to be as unfriendly and unwelcoming to the blood as possible in the hope that it stops flowing. I might still be as good as dead, but why waste a thought on that if I can focus on getting rid of the damn blood instead?

No, mopping up is a triviality that we perform while we get better ourselves, which to a large degree consists of discarding the spiritual follies that tell us we may not or that imagine a ragtag band of desert and steppe morons as insurmountable enemies.

triedandtru
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 05:03 PM
That is an interesting analogy...

Walterina
Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 08:17 PM
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My conclusion is that the causes are likely systemic and firmly rooted in what we call "the West", although the exact results that are produced differ in its various subdivisions. I think Sweden in particular was not prepared for becoming part of this and many of its own traditions have now rather disastrous effects. What is needed is for us, as Germanic peoples, to regain our existence as ethnic groups and to reclaim our political structures - or create new ones - under the premise that their purpose is to perpetuate our existence, not of everyone who happens to live on state territory and really does not belong to us. Under such a premise, immigration of unassimilable aliens could not even be contemplated without attacking the very foundation of the state.



This is what needs to be done.


Exactly. I'm sick and tired of "nationalists" who frown on unwelcoming attitudes towards immigrants because they find it "rude". They want to blame the politicians only, not the immigrants. But nobody forces the immigrants to come to Europe. Making them feel unwelcome is the first step a nationalist can do. Avoid them, don't buy kebabs and other garbage from their shops, don't give them any directions, don't give up your seat on public transport for them and so on.

Its not about 'rude-ness'. Personally, I never buy from anyone or anything that has not got a 'Union Jack' on. I would never date or marry outside of my own English identity, and I actively encourage other Englishwomen and men to do the same.

But, of our current displacement, there is a difference between hating the cause and hating the symptom. I am not knowledgeable in the history of your right or traditionalist forefathers but of mine, with men like Oswald Mosely and T.E Lawrence, I can see I have no interest in being 'horrified' by non- Germanics as people. Mosely and Lawrence fought for the land rights of peoples like the Zulus and the Arabs, learning about their cultures and not being blind to their virtues as well as seeing their faults.


There is a fallacy that being of the right or being naturally ethno/national centric means one automatically has to run away in horror from the 'others'. We don't have to. What concerns us, is not 'others' but ourselves and our own rights.

I believe that if we could really get our own family of Germanic nations firing on all cylinders again then most of the foreign immigrants would leave of their own volition, back to their own father and motherlands.
Where we could truly appreciate them :)

Jäger
Sunday, March 29th, 2009, 03:40 PM
My carotid artery has been ripped open, so the obvious way to save my life is to mop up the blood that flows copiously all over the floor and while doing so, it is best to be as unfriendly and unwelcoming to the blood as possible in the hope that it stops flowing.
This analogy doesn't hit the mark. We are ill, and the body will die of the expression of this illness, the symptoms. And it is them a healthy the body has to restrict, any unit that doesn't show such an immunology system is beyond a cure, even though the actual cause might be more important to fight.
Thus to stay in your analogy, you will drown in your own blood, before you actually die of blood lost, if you don't mob up the floor.

hermeticist
Sunday, March 29th, 2009, 08:28 PM
But nobody forces the immigrants to come to Europe.

The overpopulation in their own countries, plus the structure of a national and global economic system that drives them first to their third-world cities and then from there to the first world, are strong driving forces. Being "unfriendly" to them is not going to make a serious dent in their attitude towards migration to the relatively affluent West. The combined impact of global capitalism, overpopulation, and climate change is going to create added pressure to migrate in the years and decades to come. It is a troubling prospect. Europe's politicians have their heads in the sand as usual. I get depressed thinking about it.

Hauke Haien
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009, 09:53 PM
any unit that doesn't show such an immunology system is beyond a cure, even though the actual cause might be more important to fight.
A focus on immigrants does not restore such an immune system, it leads to impotent whining, a pathetic vision of our future and futile demands for them to "play by the rules". Even if they did, we would still be dead because we are playing by rules that are fundamentally hostile to our existence.

In truth, outsiders have no inherent significance and their misbehaviour is a failure on our side to move and manipulate them correctly, evident in the financially well-considered idea that one could have a (optionally segregated) cesspool of ethnicities inside the framework of a pseudo-nation, which is the exceptional nature of the United States of America and the free/liberal nations made in its image.

The problem is not that foreigners must behave or that foreigners must leave, it is that we as an ethnic group must resolve to create a future for ourselves that by necessity excludes foreigners from our soil and forces temporary guests to strictly obey our rules. Everything else is just a plot to preserve our weakness and keep us on a path to self-destruction.

rainman
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009, 10:06 PM
Well I think basically you should to an extent live within the framework of the laws of the land and politeness. Though to some degree I guess in our weakened state we need those rouges who make our native lands a little less welcoming to invaders. Though I don't blame the invaders much, we need to protect our own folk.

The problem is that in the United States they go over seas and recruit foriegners to come here. Upon arrival they hand them a big pile of money. They give out benefits which they don't give to natives. Then non-whites are beguiled with countless preferential treatment, diversity programs etc.

Just the first and most fundamental step would be: equal treatment for all in our nations and not giving special incentives to non-whites. Second would be no Communism! Let people fail and sterilize those who cannot take care of themselves or their kids. We need to have influence in government policy to make any change. If we were on a level playing field most non whites could not compete with us. We have two elements that are at the core of everything 1) self hating whites (or rather whites who love the foriegners or underperformers too much) usually perpetuated by Christian churches ideals of helping the poor. 2) Jews who want to undermine and crush Aryan society. Not saying all Jews, but...

Its about influencing the attitudes of the public and the law of the land. You aren't going to do much of either of those by just being rude or a criminal element.

The idea of the inequality of people should be the first thing to combat. Our strength is used against us. Anytime a white community or individual is successful it is blamed on "white priveldege" "racism" etc. We need to influence the public to understand that some people just are underperformers, others do better we are all not the same or equal.

Ormus
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009, 11:33 PM
Just the first and most fundamental step would be: equal treatment for all in our nations and not giving special incentives to non-whites. Second would be no Communism! Let people fail and sterilize those who cannot take care of themselves or their kids. We need to have influence in government policy to make any change. If we were on a level playing field most non whites could not compete with us. We have two elements that are at the core of everything 1) self hating whites (or rather whites who love the foriegners or underperformers too much) usually perpetuated by Christian churches ideals of helping the poor. 2) Jews who want to undermine and crush Aryan society. Not saying all Jews, but...



What should be done with the poor? I would prefer Charities and Churches doing their part and helping people get on their feet it is more personal and would get people moving as those supporting them would see their effort or lack of it.

The problem as I see it is when the Government get involved and takes a good idea and starts rewarding laziness, which believe it or not isn't a Judeo-Christian value. Their are statistics out there that people are less willing to help their communities or give charitably when taxed. Most likely because they believe with all the money the governement is getting they will take care of it but instead the governement just throws money at problems, which perpetuates a cycle of poverty. Whether this cycle is perpetuated purposely by the government to create a dependent populace is up for debate.

Huginn ok Muninn
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 10:16 AM
This problem is 100% the fault of our governments. Any government that fails to defend its borders against aggressive invasion has failed in its one most sacred duty which is its very reason for existence. Any government that actively promotes this invasion is guilty of the highest treason possible: aiding and abetting the destruction of a nation's soul and people. Our governments do not deserve to exist when they do this. The only thing preventing us from ripping power from our treasonous governments is the ignorance, apathy, and stupidity of the masses and the growing illegitimate power of the immigrants themselves, who, unlike our people, are fully aware of their interests in this matter and are unencumbered by canards of "racism" which are levied against us when we look after the same. There is evil afoot here, and it is perpetrated by those who actively seek our destruction. It can be no secret who these people are. They are those who influence and coerce our governments to act against the public will, who are foreigners themselves and have power out of proportion to their numbers. They owe their allegiance not to the nations where they make their homes but to their race alone. The French were even duped into electing one of them as their president:

http://www.midwestfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/5_sarkozy_israel_1.jpg

And now this little toad engages in such outrages as blaming the global financial crisis on Anglo-Saxons (http://www.midwestfreepress.com/2009/04/03/anglo-saxons-responsible-for-global-financial-crisis/) and demanding that French intermarry with non-Whites or they will receive no government services. Exactly how much are we willing to take of this before we rise up and storm the bastilles of our respective nations?

Jäger
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 10:35 AM
A focus on immigrants does not restore such an immune system ...
That wasn't my point, and I agree. What I was trying to say is, that people who are just nice to immigrants, and are not bothered by them, and thus do not take any action against them, are not capable of being part of such an immune system. (This includes e.g. buying at foreigners if not absolutely necessary).


This problem is 100% the fault of our governments.
Mono-Causality is nothing which happens outside of simplified theories.

Huginn ok Muninn
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 10:43 AM
Mono-Causality is nothing which happens outside of simplified theories.

Who else is charged with making and enforcing the laws of the land? I was not assessing the causes but apportioning blame. Those who coerce are nothing if the government has the courage required of it.

Jäger
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 11:49 AM
I was not assessing the causes but apportioning blame.
Ok then, my missunderstanding, they are to be blamed 100%, like others are.

Ossi
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 12:58 PM
This problem is 100% the fault of our governments.
As if the immigrants were taken from their homes and forced to immigrate to Germanic lands. Ya, right, they are 100% innocent, furry little bunnies. :oanieyes

Huginn ok Muninn
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 01:29 PM
As if the immigrants were taken from their homes and forced to immigrate to Germanic lands. Ya, right, they are 100% innocent, furry little bunnies. :oanieyes

And if you decided to emigrate to North Korea, could you just do that? No, because whatever else it may be, their government has the balls to kick you out. Our governments are soft, pussified, and unworthy to rule.

Jäger
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 01:36 PM
As if the immigrants were taken from their homes and forced to immigrate to Germanic lands. Ya, right, they are 100% innocent, furry little bunnies. :oanieyes
He already admitted, that he didn't speak about the sole blame. Of course immigrants can be blamed 100% too. :)

Nachtengel
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 01:42 PM
And if you decided to emigrate to North Korea, could you just do that? No, because whatever else it may be, their government has the balls to kick you out. Our governments are soft, pussified, and unworthy to rule.
Yes, they are, but they're not the only ones to blame. I gather that's what Ossi's trying to say. The immigrant is to blame too, for leaving his country and entering a foreign one. In most of the cases there is no understandable excuse for that. They just want more money and a system they can leech on. Supposedly many want to seek asylum and complain about the oppression in their countries, but once they're in Denmark or another European country, they start crying for rights, they want to wear hijabs, build mosques, even instate Sharia as a law there. You'd think that's what they were trying to get away from, oppressive, rigid regimes, or not? No, it's just an excuse, an excuse to dominate us and turn us into their territory. Sooner or later they will spread so much in numbers that we will become the minority and have a status of tolerated inferiors in their eyes. And our governments are wussies for advertising our countries to them and letting them in. They're not technically invading us on their own, we are opening the gates. But they, the immigrants, should be blamed too. To use your own analogy, if you didn't want to immigrate to North Korea, North Korea could have all the pro-immigration stance it wanted, but it still wouldn't gain you as an immigrant.

Ormus
Friday, April 3rd, 2009, 02:27 PM
I wouldn't say the government is to blame 100%, since many of us in the West have the ability and blessing to control our governments through election. Get people fired up and voting correctly and it doesn't matter how much money the people behind the scenes or officials in power have.

Might be good to do before you are a minority in your own country too. Look at Japan they don't allow immigration even though their birthrate is equal or less than that of Germany's. Don't allow any excuse, the directionyour government goes is in the hands of the people, until the government decides totrash the system because the people are mindless sheep anyway.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 07:50 AM
Yes, they are, but they're not the only ones to blame. I gather that's what Ossi's trying to say. The immigrant is to blame too, for leaving his country and entering a foreign one. In most of the cases there is no understandable excuse for that. They just want more money and a system they can leech on. Supposedly many want to seek asylum and complain about the oppression in their countries, but once they're in Denmark or another European country, they start crying for rights, they want to wear hijabs, build mosques, even instate Sharia as a law there. You'd think that's what they were trying to get away from, oppressive, rigid regimes, or not? No, it's just an excuse, an excuse to dominate us and turn us into their territory. Sooner or later they will spread so much in numbers that we will become the minority and have a status of tolerated inferiors in their eyes. And our governments are wussies for advertising our countries to them and letting them in. They're not technically invading us on their own, we are opening the gates. But they, the immigrants, should be blamed too. To use your own analogy, if you didn't want to immigrate to North Korea, North Korea could have all the pro-immigration stance it wanted, but it still wouldn't gain you as an immigrant.

If someone attacks you and you do not defend yourself, who is to blame? Whose actions can you control?

In fact for us it is worse than this now. We are like individuals attacked by two thugs. One thug (the government) hold our arms as the other thug (the immigrants) beats us to death. We had better have a lot of fight in us to beat them both.

Anfang
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 09:17 AM
As if the immigrants were taken from their homes and forced to immigrate to Germanic lands. Ya, right, they are 100% innocent, furry little bunnies. :oanieyes


If you dont keep your house clean vermin will come. Vermin don't think, they eat.

Sissi
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 03:28 PM
Of course immigrants are responsible for immigrating. But who can realistically expect they stay home? It's easy for us, from first world countries to say it. But when someone lives in a third world country, stricken by poverty, hunger, illness, crime and persecution, all he wants to do is to get away. The immigrants will go to whichever country offers them asylum, and right now, it so happens that it's our countries that top the list at that. I'm much more mad at my government for promoting multiculturalism and political correctness than I am at the immigrants for immigrating. But I'm also mad at the immigrants who involve themselves in crime.

Ormus
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Of course immigrants are responsible for immigrating. But who can realistically expect they stay home? It's easy for us, from first world countries to say it. But when someone lives in a third world country, stricken by poverty, hunger, illness, crime and persecution, all he wants to do is to get away. The immigrants will go to whichever country offers them asylum, and right now, it so happens that it's our countries that top the list at that. I'm much more mad at my government for promoting multiculturalism and political correctness than I am at the immigrants for immigrating. But I'm also mad at the immigrants who involve themselves in crime.

Exactly, I don't know about all of you but if I lived in a crap hole of a country, and there was a much better one offering you a new life... What would you do? If they eneter the country and start a life that doesn't contribute to the country, their fault, enter a country and become a criminal, their fault. But to fault people for wanting to better themselves is ridiculous. The government is perfectly capable of not allowing immigrants in the country and kicking them out, they choose not to.

velvet
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 06:02 PM
I wouldn't say the government is to blame 100%, since many of us in the West have the ability and blessing to control our governments through election. Get people fired up and voting correctly and it doesn't matter how much money the people behind the scenes or officials in power have.

A comedian lataly said: Elections dont change anything. If they would, they would be prohibited

The point is, that our governments in fact dont rule the countries, they are just representatives of the financial system. They are bound to obey to its rules, because every western country, from America to Europe, in fact is owned by the private financial system.

The Federal Bank of America: private. Bank of England: private. Any central bank within the western world: private. Money rules the world is not just a funny saying, it is the ultimate truth. And this money, all of it (and only about 10% of it does really exist. Absurd? Sounds as if it were, but it is true), is owned and controlled by a handful of private banks. Banks are mostly jewish, the entire stock exchange is jewish, american Lehman Brothers bank, who crushed half the economy in Europe (!), jewish. When you take into consideration that since WWII the attempts to install multiculturarism run on highest level, every big media is controlled and owned by jews, and when you remember that jews declared war on the germanic spirit in 1934, you'll see the pattern. It is a systematical attempt. It is unbelievable big, it seems unimaginable, every thinking human would tend to think it is not to realise, but it is just true.

If a government tries to make some laws to restrict immigration, to create more strict rules about who is allowed to be here and who not (let's say escapees of a war would be allowed, as guests, economy escapees would not be allowed), what would be the result? Many jews dont own a passport of the country they live in, they would be thrown out as a result. So it cant be allowed.

The muslim, destroying sort of immigration just supports the plan to diversify and ultimately destroy the germanic spirit. It is their best weapon and they got it for free. The poor immigrants just support the national depths which are necessary to keep unlimited control over the western states.

Ormus
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 06:12 PM
A comedian lataly said: Elections dont change anything. If they would, they would be prohibited

The point is, that our governments in fact dont rule the countries, they are just representatives of the financial system. They are bound to obey to its rules, because every western country, from America to Europe, in fact is owned by the private financial system.

The Federal Bank of America: private. Bank of England: private. Any central bank within the western world: private. Money rules the world is not just a funny saying, it is the ultimate truth. And this money, all of it (and only about 10% of it does really exist. Absurd? Sounds as if it were, but it is true), is owned and controlled by a handful of private banks. Banks are mostly jewish, the entire stock exchange is jewish, american Lehman Brothers bank, who crushed half the economy in Europe (!), jewish. When you take into consideration that since WWII the attempts to install multiculturarism run on highest level, every big media is controlled and owned by jews, and when you remember that jews declared war on the germanic spirit in 1934, you'll see the pattern. It is a systematical attempt. It is unbelievable big, it seems unimaginable, every thinking human would tend to think it is not to realise, but it is just true.

If a government tries to make some laws to restrict immigration, to create more strict rules about who is allowed to be here and who not (let's say escapees of a war would be allowed, as guests, economy escapees would not be allowed), what would be the result? Many jews dont own a passport of the country they live in, they would be thrown out as a result. So it cant be allowed.

The muslim, destroying sort of immigration just supports the plan to diversify and ultimately destroy the germanic spirit. It is their best weapon and they got it for free. The poor immigrants just support the national depths which are necessary to keep unlimited control over the western states.

I don't disagree but if enough people went against the tide/media/money wouldn't that force them to make their move or reveal themselves? It is much easier to fight a seen enemy than one that works behind the curtains.

And as far s the Muslims go, what do Jews hope to gain by mass immigration of muslims who claim that Jews rule the world and need to be exterminated?

velvet
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 07:37 PM
I don't disagree but if enough people went against the tide/media/money wouldn't that force them to make their move or reveal themselves? It is much easier to fight a seen enemy than one that works behind the curtains.

Yes, this would force them to make their step, the problem is, it wont happen. If there'd be a candidate who seem to be strong enough you can watch him being dismounted long before the election.


And as far s the Muslims go, what do Jews hope to gain by mass immigration of muslims who claim that Jews rule the world and need to be exterminated?

I'm not sure, I guess they think they can handle it or something. Right now they're doing exactly the job they should for them. I agree that it seems not logical and shortsighted, but maybe they underestimate them, I dont know. Maybe they're meanwhile that greedy for money and power that they dont even think about that it could become a threat to them all too soon also...

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Of course immigrants are responsible for immigrating. But who can realistically expect they stay home? It's easy for us, from first world countries to say it. But when someone lives in a third world country, stricken by poverty, hunger, illness, crime and persecution, all he wants to do is to get away. The immigrants will go to whichever country offers them asylum, and right now, it so happens that it's our countries that top the list at that. I'm much more mad at my government for promoting multiculturalism and political correctness than I am at the immigrants for immigrating. But I'm also mad at the immigrants who involve themselves in crime.

Their countries are cesspools because of the PEOPLE there. If you let them come here all they do is turn European lands into cesspools too. Stop having sympathy for the enemy! By the time you realize we are in a savage, Darwinian, us-or-them world it will be too late.

velvet
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 10:03 PM
But when someone lives in a third world country, stricken by poverty, hunger, illness, crime and persecution, all he wants to do is to get away

I would rather want to change the situation. We did many times throughout history, we fought for our rights, for our freedom, for our volk (well, even if it didnt really work, at least we have tried). We didnt run away and rob out sneakily other state's social systems. In fact, this wouldnt work anywhere else. Why? Because we are social, we care also for the larger society.
They dont, they dont care about their neighbors, they rape and steel for the sake of this moment's desires. They act like lower animals. Go into a ghetto and see how they live. They live in our society, go to our schools, profit from our system, but they live like they've lived and behaved in the bush or in outback anatolia. They just dont care, because they dont think about resources, they just consume.
If it would be such a pressing situation in their homelands, they'd rather fight to make it a better place, but they just see a bigger pile of foot in our countries. They dont even think about changing it in their homelands.

We lack the immune system to keep the bacteries from reproducing endlessly. We dont get fever but rather think about how to keep the bacteries alive, because they also have the right to live?

Where should that pitiful thinking end? Three billion indians and chinese due to their sheer overpopulation welcomed to europe and another billion africans and muslims, due to the lack of resources (handling) in their homelands also here? This would turn europe and america to third world states.
We should learn to ask if the one we welcome actually deserves the help. Meaning with that that we ask, can we expect any positive from him in turn for our help? In case of third world invaders the answer is no, because they are bacteries, like pyogenic bacteries consuming the flesh they live in until its death.

And one thing is for sure. They will not have any mercy for us. If the day comes, they'll kill us all without hesitating. As Huginn ok Muninn said, there is no point in having sympathy for the enemy.

Sissi
Saturday, April 4th, 2009, 10:55 PM
@ Huginn ok Muninn, I didn't say we should let them come here and I didn't say we should aid them. They are not Europe's problem and I don't pity them. But what I don't do is expect someone wanting anything other than the best for themselves. I want the best for me and my people, why wouldn't the third worlders want the best for theirs too? I don't know anyone - except for some monk orders - who enjoys living in misery. As I said, it is up to our governments to take he right attitude and close the borders to non-European immigration.

@velvet, we are talking about different kinds of people and civilizations. Germanics aren't the same as let's say Africans. Africans have lower intelligence and thus are less creative. Just because we are able to make our countries better places doesn't mean every other people or race can too.

If any of you is expecting consideration and care for our countries from immigrants, then you are deluded. You can expect them to "not want to immigrate" and "stay and make their countries better places" all you want. It won't come. It won't happen. They care for themselves first and foremost. As we should. As any people who doesn't wish to become extinct should. And that is why I hate my government while I don't hate the immigrants: because my government is looking after foreign interests, not our own.

Jäger
Sunday, April 5th, 2009, 09:19 AM
You all mix it up, it isn't about their intentions, but about their deeds we blame them for.
Imputing good intentions to a bad deed, and vice versa is something entirely un-Germanic. So who cares whether they "just" want to better themselves?

rainman
Sunday, April 5th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Yep. Their countries are often cesspools because of the people there. If anything healthier people should be expanding their territory and improving the blood of less successful people while preserving their own blood in their homelands. Today the opposite is the case where the inferior are polluting the blood of the more successful groups and expanding and replacing them.

At any rate Europe was a cesspool a few hundred years ago. I think most Europeans are inferior as well and have just been propped up by their better elements and progress made through technology. All societies need to seek to improve their people by setting standards for themselves and enforcing laws.

I agree its our own government's fault. Many of our own people's fault who have so much sympathy for criminals, invalids, failures, misfits, foriegners etc. as well as many of our people who are too dumb or weak to know what's going on.

velvet
Sunday, April 5th, 2009, 05:01 PM
@ Huginn ok Muninn, I didn't say we should let them come here and I didn't say we should aid them. They are not Europe's problem and I don't pity them. But what I don't do is expect someone wanting anything other than the best for themselves. I want the best for me and my people, why wouldn't the third worlders want the best for theirs too? I don't know anyone - except for some monk orders - who enjoys living in misery. As I said, it is up to our governments to take he right attitude and close the borders to non-European immigration.

@velvet, we are talking about different kinds of people and civilizations. Germanics aren't the same as let's say Africans. Africans have lower intelligence and thus are less creative. Just because we are able to make our countries better places doesn't mean every other people or race can too.

If any of you is expecting consideration and care for our countries from immigrants, then you are deluded. You can expect them to "not want to immigrate" and "stay and make their countries better places" all you want. It won't come. It won't happen. They care for themselves first and foremost. As we should. As any people who doesn't wish to become extinct should. And that is why I hate my government while I don't hate the immigrants: because my government is looking after foreign interests, not our own.

As I explained in my post before the government does not have the power to take any actions. And I guess, many of them are so filled with all the multi-culti lies that they really cant see that some actions would be necessary.
In general I agree with Jäger, it is not their intention I hate, but their deeds they are doing in OUR countries.
However, we cant wait for the day the governments wake up and do something, WE are asked to take the actions, before it is too late.

And right now I think something in the vein of the french revolution is more of a useful action than trying to play by the rules - foreign rules - of elections, political parties or other bs, that keeps people discussing forever while the enemy takes our countries over.

Haereticus
Sunday, April 5th, 2009, 05:25 PM
As if the immigrants were taken from their homes and forced to immigrate to Germanic lands. Ya, right, they are 100% innocent, furry little bunnies. :oanieyes

In the future Hollywood will rewrite history again. They will have been dragged here kicking and screaming, protesting all the way as they were cruelly removed from their beloved homelands.

ewald steiner
Tuesday, April 7th, 2009, 06:22 AM
It is facetiousness to say the immigrant's are faultless and it is the government who is to blame. It is correct the government is to blame for beinging them in. The immigrant is undesirable, and very visible, whether it is his fault or not that he is here is of no consequence to the fact that they should not be here at all. The immigrant is not to be pitied, nor afforded any sympathy. They are parasites, and wanderers, successors to the gypsies of yester years. They come to colonize us. Once established here, like the turks, arabs, africans and others, they will claim national rights and dues; they will break the racial cohesion , sow discord and divisions within our homogenea, and gradually dissolve our etnia. It is a human rights violation, a national right violation , a racial violation, to import undesirable and unassimilable black, brown immigrants into european white homelands.

prodeutsch
Tuesday, April 14th, 2009, 12:39 AM
And as far s the Muslims go, what do Jews hope to gain by mass immigration of muslims who claim that Jews rule the world and need to be exterminated? I totally agree, I am puzzled at the nearly reflective Jewish blame thingee some people have. Until we wake up and realize who the real threat is I am afraid we are in for a rough future!

Blod og Jord
Wednesday, May 20th, 2009, 11:23 AM
There is a paradox about the Muslims.
They don't fit in here, and they're not happy about the religious things.
But they like our quality of life. Of course.
They like to have it easier than in the Middle East and countries they came from.
But that's because of our type of society which isn't stuck in the dark age like their countries.
If the Muslims obtain the kind of society they want,
and impose the Sharia, sooner or later the quality of life won't be so good anymore.
Then who knows which country they will set their camp anew in?

Patrioten
Wednesday, May 20th, 2009, 11:54 AM
There is a paradox about the Muslims.
They don't fit in here, and they're not happy about the religious things.
But they like our quality of life. Of course.
They like to have it easier than in the Middle East and countries they came from.
But that's because of our type of society which isn't stuck in the dark age like their countries.
If the Muslims obtain the kind of society they want,
and impose the Sharia, sooner or later the quality of life won't be so good anymore.
Then who knows which country they will set their camp anew in?They also turn whatever neighborhood they move to into run down slums and ghettos and then blame the Europeans for not spending more resources on these neighborhoods. So there's a clear pattern of de-civilization even in the early stages of non-European immigration. Here in Sweden they are now complaining about a growing problem with cockroaches in the immigrant ghettos, as if we are responsible for them bringing these pests with them when they import products from their own pest ridden countries, or in their clothes or baggage as they come here. The European is always to blame.

Slætartind
Tuesday, May 26th, 2009, 08:35 PM
I'm certainly in favor of the Balkanization of the US. Our government doesn't care in the least what we want, but grovels to Israel in every way. Biden went and actually bragged about being the "biggest Zionist in the senate." He knows who butters his bread. It's sad that Europe feels the need to destroy itself in the same way the US is being destroyed. Diversity doesn't "enrich" anything except perhaps those who profit from dividing and conquering. It only serves to create chaos and division.

Absolutely right. There is something strange about all the immigration policy. Seems as you are "stamped" as a racist and you´re related to Holocaust if you have a restrictive point of view on immigration.
Having liberal immigration laws and to make soft rules for them will only create more annoyed people and dissatisfaction. And of course it will spawn more nazis.

They should instead send money to the Islamic countries and sent all the political fugitives from Muslim countries to Turkey then it would be much easier. Because Turkey is Islamic, so they should have a easier time to integrate there than in Sweden or Holland for example.

Would also be more beneficial to give them harder punishment.
First time they do violence should result in a labour camp for 10 years and then deportation to middle east or Turkey.
But of course that will result in a whole bunch of whining from the human right groups.

It serves nothing to be hateful against them. But they should be punished much harder for criminal acts. And Europeans should stand up against them also in the streets!

Siebenbürgerin
Thursday, June 25th, 2009, 10:30 PM
Hmm, that's one of the key problems about open borders. You don't only get natives of a country, but more like immigrants with passports from that country. That's what happens in the EU about the Gypsies. If it were just Nordics between these countries, the problem would be nonexistent.

Linda Trostenhatten
Thursday, July 16th, 2009, 08:19 AM
Danish People's Party's municipial representative involved in a fight with a neighbour.
Both say that the other attacked and they only defended themselves.
John Thostrup (from Danish People's Party, upper photo)has higher charges than Erling Raahauge and I don't understand this because he has greater injuries.
http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00452/Politiker_i_blodig__452942m.jpghttp://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00452/Politiker_i_blodig__452941d.jpg

Verðandi
Friday, August 14th, 2009, 05:50 PM
Neocon/Neolib Wars: The number of people seeking refuge in Denmark rose by 54% this year alone; the vast majority of these are young men from Afghanistan and Iraq.


More... (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffeedprox y.google.com%2F%7Er%2FNationalPolicyInst itute%2F%7E3%2F1N401Sa6SUE%2F)

Old Winter
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 02:26 PM
You would think that after the cartoon wars and the rise of anti-immigration voices people would think twice before coming here...

velvet
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 03:11 PM
You would think that after the cartoon wars and the rise of anti-immigration voices people would think twice before coming here...

But when they dont come here how should they teach us tolerance? :~(

Peoples Observer
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 04:38 PM
The real enemy here is the leftist trash who not only defends non-Europid immigration, but wants to increase the number of non-Europids to Denmark.
But fortunately most Danes resent immigrants coming in.
They are fed up with their street crime and the potential for terrorism.

Kogen
Saturday, August 15th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Perhaps these same leftists should stop displacing these people by invading the two source countries.

They call us the 'ignorant racists' while they continue to slaughter and torture other people.

baroqueorgan
Tuesday, December 8th, 2009, 06:51 PM
An anti-immigrant backlash, bordering on xenophobia, is sweeping across Europe. Sentiments once associated with ultra right-wing parties are becoming mainstream. Many taboos are being broken — nowhere more starkly than in Denmark — the erstwhile poster child of the welcoming and nurturing welfare state.

Earlier this year, that haven of solidarity and liberalism was shaken by violent protests and deaths in the Muslim world over cartoons of Mohammed that were published in a Danish paper. Suddenly, Danes began to see their own Muslim immigrants as a threat to their national identity.

The cartoon crisis hit hard in the Copenhagen commune of Christiania, a bastion of the counterculture where freedom of speech is the paramount value.

Sculptor/welder Charlotte Steem, one of the commune’s 800 residents, says the violence with which some Muslims reacted to the Mohammed cartoons has undermined many of her convictions.

“There are a lot of things I don’t understand in [the] Muslim world,” Steem says. She recognizes the free society of her country but says she doesn’t know whether borders can remain open.

Only a few years ago, Denmark was proud of its open-door policy, and even the mildest critique of immigration would have been labeled racist.

But the mood shifted after Sept. 11, and the terrorist attacks in Europe. After many years of leftist rule, a right-wing government came to power, introducing Europe’s toughest immigration laws.

It also introduced restrictions aimed at curbing forced marriages among Muslims.

Today, the Danish political discourse is no longer stifled by political correctness. The tone can even be inflammatory. One politician has called for the internment of some Muslim radicals in Denmark for security reasons.

And last year, a radio station went so far as to call for the extermination of all radical Muslims.

The difficulty of integrating Muslims who don’t share Western values is the No.1 topic of discussion.

Currently, the nation’s best-selling book is called Islamists and Naivists.

“We compare Islamism to Nazism and communism because they are all three of them a totalitarian ideology,” says Karen Jespersen, who co-wrote the book with her husband, Ralf Pittlekow.

Their politically incorrect analysis would suggest they’re right-wingers. But they’re diehard Social Democrats — proud veterans of the student protests of the 1960s.

Jespersen, a feminist and a former interior minister in charge of immigration issues, says the radicals’ goal is the Islamization of Europe. When she was in government, many Muslims told her they were not free to adapt to Western society.

“In the parallel society, they use the term ‘Muslim police,’“ she says. “They are trying to control the more moderate Muslims. If they see their daughters talking to boys, then they go to the fathers and say, ‘I saw your girl talking to a boy, and how can you let her? You have to stop it immediately.’“

The concept of the cradle-to-grave welfare state is so deeply embedded in the Danish psyche that even the conservatives don’t dare touch it. But many Danes say their social pact has been undermined by the large inflow of immigrants — many of whom don’t share Danish civic values and, they say, prefer to live on the dole rather than work for the minimum wage.

“A welfare state can only function if there are restrictions on the border,” says Soren Espersen, a leading member of the right-wing Danish People’s Party, which has had increasing electoral success running on an anti-immigration platform.

The government depends on the party’s parliamentary support to pass bills.

Espersen points out that thanks to new laws, annual immigration has declined to 2,000 last year from 27,000 in 2001. Asylum for refugees has also dropped sharply.

Despite promoting Europe’s harshest immigration law, the DPP rejects being identified with the racism and anti-Semitism associated with French ultra right-wing politician Jean-Marie Le Pen. It’s radical Islam, Espersen says, that today represents the extreme right.

And the only way to combat it is through integration and education, he says.

Commentator David Trads says there is such a broad political consensus that the DPP has become mainstream.

“We want as few new immigrants as possible,” Trads says. “This is new; this is not how it was five years ago.”

One of parliament’s most vocal opponents of Islamic radicals is Syrian-born Naser Khader, who says the integration debate is roiling among Muslims themselves.

Khader says many Muslims in Europe want to break their ties with their land of origin and declare their loyalty to their new Western homelands.

“But the Islamists don’t like this,” he says. “They want the mullahs and imams in Muslim countries [to] decide what the Muslims in Europe should do.”

Khader insists that Islam and the West are not grappling with a clash of civilizations.

“It is clash between ideologies, democracy and not democracy,” he says. “Between those who want democracy, modernity, respect for human rights, equality between gender, and the others who want the opposite.”

Khader says it will be a long battle and won’t be won during his lifetime.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6505809

Randwulf
Tuesday, December 8th, 2009, 08:18 PM
:)
Good for denmark.Lets hope Britain follows soon (some hope) :thumbup

Old Winter
Tuesday, December 8th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Khader says many Muslims in Europe want to break their ties with their land of origin and declare their loyalty to their new Western homelands.


We will never accept your loyalty.

Huginn ok Muninn
Wednesday, December 9th, 2009, 12:33 AM
We will never accept your loyalty.

Indeed. They have nothing to be loyal to except the standard of living provided by a Germanic nation. People so shallow have no loyalty that's worth anything.

Kogen
Wednesday, December 9th, 2009, 02:19 AM
That is amusing considering that all sane Arabic Sultans used European royal guards out of fear of fellow Muslims being untrustworthy.

captainblue
Wednesday, December 9th, 2009, 04:03 AM
Its about time people in Denmark begin to wake up to that mass invasion is
has its bad.

Berrocscir
Sunday, December 13th, 2009, 06:31 PM
We will never accept your loyalty.

Unforntunately many so-called nationalists would!

Muslims that want to integrate with european culture are just as much traitors to their people/s as liberals are to theirs.

Nachtengel
Tuesday, March 9th, 2010, 04:08 AM
Despite a recent threat by Supreme Court judges to undermine the immigration legislation governing citizenship, Denmark will continue with its 28-year rule for naturalising citizens.

Politiken reports that the rule, in place since 2002, stipulates that ‘naturalised citizens’ must reside in Denmark for a minimum of 28 years before being allowed to move their spouse to Denmark under national family reunification laws. The only possibility of circumventing this law is if the combined attachment of the couple to Denmark can be considered greater than that to any other country.

The ruling was called into question following the case of Ousmane Biao who had his application rejected by the Supreme Court when requesting his Ghanaian wife be allowed to join him in Denmark. However, three of the seven judges in the case deemed the ruling to be gratuitously discriminatory, leading to speculation that the immigration laws, long held sacred in Denmark, may be overhauled.

Togo-born Ousmane was raised in Ghana before migrating to Denmark in 1993. Working since 1996, he was granted citizenship in 2002. His request was rejected due to his Ghanaian schooling and frequent visits home to see his siblings and parents along with his wife having no family inside Denmark and that they speak their local language when together.

Birthe Ronn Hornbech, the Immigration Minister, said that the ruling should be seen as an endorsement of the law rather than a questioning. “It would be weird if we, after an endorsement from the Supreme Court, wanted to change the law,” said Hornbech who also added that disagreement among judges was not unusual.

http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010/02/09/denmark-to-maintain-28-year-immigration-rule/

GroeneWolf
Tuesday, March 9th, 2010, 08:53 AM
Good thing if they can keep. It at least slows down the immigration flood a bit. But nothing more.

Nachtengel
Friday, May 7th, 2010, 09:41 PM
The Danish Social Liberal Party is coming out with a guide telling foreigners in Denmark how they can do family reunification according to the EU regulations.

Move to Sweden, do family reunification and then move back to Denmark. That way your partner can get a permanent residence permit much easier than if you just live in Denmark and try to do family reunification via the strict Danish rules.

The invitation to take advantage of EU immigration rules appear in a new guide published by the Social Liberal Party and the Documentation Centre Racism and Discrimination.

Integration spokesperson Marianne Jelved (R) told Information they felt obligated to give good, solid public-education since the ministry doesn't live up to their responsibility for guidance.

When a couple wants to do family reunification, it's not clear from the materials they get that there are significant benefits in doing it as EU citizens, says Marianne Jelved.

Liberal Party's integration spokesperson, Karsten Lauritzen, thinks that when the Social Liberals try to guide immigrants and Danes who want to do family reunification, it's almost 'undemocratic'.

"It's fair enough that the Social Liberals want a different foreign and integration policy, but they should respect the rules that a majority in Parliament has adopted," says the Liberal Party's spokesperson.

He says that anybody who contacts the Ministry of Integration also gets info about family reunification by the EU rules. The guidelines also appear on the Ministry's website.

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A new record was reached last year for people moving to Denmark from Southern Sweden (Skåne). The figures from Statistics Denmark show that fewer people are moving in the opposite direction.

Close to 3,000 people left Sweden for Denmark last year. In comparison to 2008, last year was an increase of 16%. Half the people in the group who moved were born in Denmark, but a third were not born in either Sweden or Denmark. The latter group is getting proportionally bigger. Nine years ago, 15% were not born in Sweden or Denmark, while last year this was 32%.

Ten years after the Oresund bridge opened, the difference in the number of people moving to and from Sweden has been virtually eliminated.

While in 2006, the number of people moving from eastern Denmark to southern Sweden was three times as high as in the opposite direction, last year it was just a tenth higher.

http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2010/05/denmark-social-liberals-guide.html

Dagna
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 04:10 AM
Denmark: Growing support to halt for non-western immigrants (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.euti mes.net%2F2010%2F08%2Fdenmark-growing-support-to-halt-for-non-western-immigrants%2F)

The nationalist Danish People’s Party announced yesterday that it is ready to put a complete stop to all immigration to Denmark from non-Western countries.

On Tuesday the party began its 2010 summer group meeting in Vejle, Jutland, where its top members such as Pia Kjærsgaard, Kristian Thulesen Dahl and Peter Skaarup met to discuss current topics in advance of the autumn session of parliament.

The Danish People’s Party (DF) is seeking to put a complete stop to all immigration from non-Western countries, a continuation of the proposal the party made last month to toughen the 24-year rule for foreign spouses of Danes.

The 24-year rule refers to a clause in the immigration law requiring that a Danish citizen and a foreign born spouse to both be over 24 in order qualify for Danish residence. At the summer group meeting, though, the party stated that it now feels there should instead be put a complete stop to immigration from non-Western countries.

Peter Skaarup, DF’s deputy chairman and immigration spokesman, said that they feel it is necessary to restrict, if not fully put a stop to, the integration to Denmark from the non-Western world, as this integration is a hindrance on the country’s economy, which is already under pressure due to the effects of the financial crisis.

Skaarup added that he feels it was necessary to stop the immigration in order to secure the survival of the welfare state, as it can only continue to exist if immigrants pay taxes.

If immigrants only receive benefits but not pay taxes, the state cannot survive, he argued, adding that figures show it is integration from the non-Western world which causes problems, as these immigrants contribute too little to the welfare state.

hyidi
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 04:18 AM
I'm fully backing the Danish Government and her peoples.....first sign of the white policy coming back? I hope so....things are looking good.

My main concern is would the EU and United Nations Nato halt the Danish new white rule policy?

Joe McCarthy
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Ah, yes, the Danish People's Party - likely my favorite nationalist party, as they have been most competent in navigating the post-war political waves. So much so in fact that Europe's largest Jewish group recently removed them from their 'extremist' list.

If only we had more serious nationalists like them in every country...

Þoreiðar
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 08:34 PM
The nationalist Danish People’s Party announced yesterday that it is ready to put a complete stop to all immigration to Denmark from non-Western countries.Very good! I'm just afraid that stopping immigration to Denmark from non-Western countries is not enough. After all, countries like France are considered Western countries...

Seleferth
Tuesday, September 14th, 2010, 09:04 PM
This is really good news! There seems to be a growning anger in Europe over immigration, though I think its mainly down to the recession. Governments know that thousands becoming unemployed may mean civil unrest, increased unpopularity & then their necks are on the line. Its why Sarkozy in France is deporting the Roma. Today i noted though that The EU wants to take France to court over this.....think this is going to get interesting ;)

The Aesthete
Wednesday, September 15th, 2010, 09:39 AM
Why do they did they argue just on economic grounds? Why not talk about the cultural and racial degradation, although it is not pc.

I remember doing a history lesson about how people revert to their primordial loyalties e.g. race and religion in times of crisis; as seen by Germany during the recession and in churches after 9/11. I think we need a massive crisis like a big recession maybe that may wake us up before it is too late.

Ingvaeonic
Friday, October 1st, 2010, 05:05 PM
The nationalist Danish People’s Party announced yesterday that it is ready to put a complete stop to all immigration to Denmark from non-Western countries.

That's a step in the right direction. If I were Danish I would certainly by voting for the Dansk Folkeparti and I'd probably join it.

On a related subject, Queen Margrethe had the guts to speak out about the problem of Moslems, their alien religious culture, and their religious intolerance within Denmark. So far as I know she's the only European monarch or head of state to say anything about Moslems and the problems that they cause. Quite right, too. The bastards would only make a mess of her realm like they make a mess of every other country they settle in, including their own godawful countries. I wonder if HM Queen Margrethe II is a Dansk Folkeparti supporter in spirit or in principle if not electorally. As the Danish Sovereign, she would be unable to vote, I would think; as a constitutional monarch she could not endorse or otherwise publicly support any political pary, but she must have sympathies and leanings.

InvaderNat
Saturday, October 2nd, 2010, 12:14 AM
Why do they did they argue just on economic grounds? Why not talk about the cultural and racial degradation, although it is not pc.

Whatever gets the job done with the least amount of fuss I suppose. Besides the DPP do state that they are opposed to multi-culturalism and the ongoing multi-ethnic transformation of Denmark (so you know their hearts are in the right place).
This news is a very good first step but as others pointed out, many invaders simply immigrate (legally or otherwise) into other European or Western countries and then migrate to the country of their choosing - seemingly as 'westerners'.
Still Denmark is proving once again that is far wiser than many of it's neighbors - makes me proud to have a Danish ancestor.

Nachtengel
Sunday, October 17th, 2010, 11:13 AM
The Danish People's Party wants a government committee to calculate every year how much non-Western immigrants are costing Danish society. This new demand is a central requirement from the government, reports Berlingske Tidende. This way people will know how much the New Danes are costing the ethnic Danes.

Pia Kjærsgaard, leader of the DPP, says that though people object to it, they are not afraid to say that there's a link between the work abilities of immigrants and the lack of welfare and that there's a cost to it.

She wants the committee to calculate how much immigrants cost the medical, justice, social and educational sectors.

Kjærsgaard has a long list of extra costs in mind. She says that the immigrants demand special privileges, such as prayer rooms, halal food, demand for female doctors, interpreters and so on.

http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2010/08/denmark-dpp-want-to-know-cost-of-non.html

Nachtengel
Sunday, October 17th, 2010, 11:15 AM
The Danish People's Party wants to stop all non-Western immigration. During the party's summer convention, the party's leader Pia Kjærsgaard and the legal affairs spokesperson Peter Skaarup proposed to stop all non-Western immigration to Denmark.

"If we look at the numbers and facts on this matter we must recognize that non-Western immigrants contribute too little to the welfare society. Therefore we must stop immigration from non-Western countries," says Peter Skaarup.

The DPP says that the welfare society is being pressured and the party wants to protect and even develop the welfare society we have today. According to the party, that can't happen if more and more immigrants come from non-Western countries.

"We don't want a society with different population groups. We know which population groups give us problems, when it comes to the economy and lacking desire to adapt," says Pia Kjærsgaard.

http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2010/08/denmark-dpp-wants-non-western.html

Ocko
Sunday, October 17th, 2010, 07:19 PM
It seems the reason 'they don't contribute enough to welfare' is a funny one.

The real reason is they are civilian occupiers and destroyers of our culture.

What is his fear? to be called a 'racist'?

Why would one follow a coward?

Zogbot
Sunday, October 17th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Yeah, we are evidently screwed when the best reason our 'defenders' can come up with to stop mud invasion of our ancestral homelands is this bull. But, that's what happens when you let the international parasite dictate the terms and decide the labels. We don't want to be Nazis, boys and girls, now do we? Nazis hurt G-d's pets and that is simply no good.

BritishLad
Sunday, October 17th, 2010, 07:25 PM
Well they have my support! :thumbup

Ingvaeonic
Sunday, December 19th, 2010, 01:57 AM
Danish People's Party Want to Know Cost of Non-Western Immigration

Fair enough. I'd like to know the cost to Denmark of non-Western immigration, too, just out of interest. But I'll bet one thing about it, it will be high. I read that the Danish criminal psychologist Nicolai Sennels stated that 70 percent of convicted prisoners in Copenhagen are of Moslem heritage. Now there's a reduction in costs that the Danish People's Party could make right there if they got elected to government. Strip the Moslem convicts of their Danish citizenship, if they have it, after serving their sentences, and deport the scum to where they came from or where their parents came from. That would reduce prison costs by 70 percent, which is an enormous saving.

I'd really love to see Denmark do that. It would really send a clear and strong message to the rest of the world that Moslem crime and Moslem criminals will not be tolerated. And the fact that Denmark and the other Scandinavian countries are used as social models to other developed countries around the world makes such a move all the more pointed and influential: if liberal, progressive Denmark really did that it would provide an excellent model or pattern of social justice and set a great example to the rest of the developed world that is affected by the Moslem plague. Alas, it is probably only a dream--or is it? All I can say is go for it, Dansk Folkeparti!


The Danish People's Party wants a government committee to calculate every year how much non-Western immigrants are costing Danish society. This new demand is a central requirement from the government, reports Berlingske Tidende. This way people will know how much the New Danes are costing the ethnic Danes.

Pia Kjærsgaard, leader of the DPP, says that though people object to it, they are not afraid to say that there's a link between the work abilities of immigrants and the lack of welfare and that there's a cost to it.

She wants the committee to calculate how much immigrants cost the medical, justice, social and educational sectors.

Kjærsgaard has a long list of extra costs in mind. She says that the immigrants demand special privileges, such as prayer rooms, halal food, demand for female doctors, interpreters and so on.

I hope the DF/DPP gets its government inquiry or committee into the cost to Denmark of non-Western immigration. I'd love to know the findings.

Atavist
Friday, December 24th, 2010, 10:44 AM
Don't be fooled by Danish People's Party! They are a zionist puppetshow!
They have been a part of the Danish government for almost a decade now, and last year we saw they GREATEST immigration ever recorded!
Danish People's Party is a smoke and mirrors show! They do some talking about immigration on the one hand to capture votes, but on the other hand they celebrate the mass-immigration of non-whites. They have promonent jews in their party and even arabs.

Ingvaeonic
Friday, December 24th, 2010, 02:52 PM
Don't be fooled by Danish People's Party! They are a zionist puppetshow!
They have been a part of the Danish government for almost a decade now, and last year we saw they GREATEST immigration ever recorded!
Danish People's Party is a smoke and mirrors show! They do some talking about immigration on the one hand to capture votes, but on the other hand they celebrate the mass-immigration of non-whites. They have promonent jews in their party and even arabs.

Really? I don't know what to make of the DF/DPP now. And using weak excuses to justify ending non-Western immigration to Denmark is ignoring the elephant in the room. I have no doubt that non-Western immigrants are unproductive parasites on the Danish state, but the DF should state clearly and unequivocally that non-Western immigrants are totally incompatible with and greatly destructive of Danish ethnicity, culture, and society and so non-Western immigration ought to end forthwith. Non-Western immigration ought to end everywhere, but most particularly in all Germanic lands.

velvet
Friday, December 24th, 2010, 03:41 PM
It seems the reason 'they don't contribute enough to welfare' is a funny one.

The real reason is they are civilian occupiers and destroyers of our culture.

Maybe the term "welfare state" is a little misleading. It means a social structure that carries and furthers the people as a whole and as a community in a solidarity system.

It's not reduced to the paid "welfare". It means also, and most of all, the society structure the Danes (in Germany we used to have something similar, which gets more and more eroded though) created and built for themselves. A society circling around solidarity and "hyggelighed" (hygge translates to something like "angenehm", "gemütlich", "warm", "herzlich" und so weiter), which cannot be maintained with foreign people who are not hyggelig by their culture and character traits, and therefore erode this rather fragile societal structure.


Atavist:
you shouldnt forget that Denmark now is part of the EUSSR and therefore subject to EUSSR legislation. It's not that Denmark, or any other state for that matter, would have the opportunity to reject immigrants that are centrally distributed by EUSSR committees. Still, the DF managed to put up some hindrances, the 23 years wait until naturalisation for example, or the age limit (which effectively blocks out single male youth) and so on. I know this isnt much, but the DF is only part of the government, like the Radikal Venstre (Radical Left, a communist party) is as well. They are not the government. If they were, I always got the impression that Denmark's immigration policies would look a lot different.

Atavist
Saturday, December 25th, 2010, 03:08 PM
you shouldnt forget that Denmark now is part of the EUSSR and therefore subject to EUSSR legislation. It's not that Denmark, or any other state for that matter, would have the opportunity to reject immigrants that are centrally distributed by EUSSR committees.
I'm aware of that.
Here is another example of how say one thing and does another. In the media and in public speeches, Danish People's Party is opposed to the European Union, but in reality they are the party in the Danish parlament, who have voted 'yes' to most EU-laws.
This is really typical of Danish People's Party, they sa one thing, that in it self is good enough, but does the complete opposite.
They are nothing but a zionist puttetshow!



Still, the DF managed to put up some hindrances, the 23 years wait until naturalisation for example, or the age limit (which effectively blocks out single male youth) and so on.
Again, this is just a mascarade. Danish People's Party have openly said that they are not opposted to the non-white mass immigration, they are only opposed to UNEMPLOYED immigrants, regardless of race.



I know this isnt much, but the DF is only part of the government, like the Radikal Venstre (Radical Left, a communist party) is as well. They are not the government. If they were, I always got the impression that Denmark's immigration policies would look a lot different.
First of all, the Danish government consists of Venstre (Left, the Danish liberalist party), Konservative (Conservatives) and Danish People's Party as parlamentary support. The Danish government would not exist if it wasn't for the support of Danish People's Party. Danish People's Party could therefore demant deportations or complete stop for all non-white immigration in return for their support. They would do that if they really see the massive non-white immigration as the problem that it is - but they don't.
Danish People's Party is nothing but retoric and hot air. They say some decent things before an election to get the lemmings to vote for them, and with great success.

And Radikale Venstre (Radical Left) Isn't a part of the Danish government and is not, despite the name, a communist party, it's a liberalist party.

velvet
Saturday, December 25th, 2010, 03:30 PM
First of all, the Danish government consists of Venstre (Left, the Danish liberalist party), Konservative (Conservatives) and Danish People's Party as parlamentary support. The Danish government would not exist if it wasn't for the support of Danish People's Party. Danish People's Party could therefore demant deportations or complete stop for all non-white immigration in return for their support.

Hm, this is interesting, didnt know that their (theoretical) power was so great.

In that case, one really has to wonder why they dont use their power to really change something, if they just could dissolve parliament, or threaten to do so.

But its like everywhere, when suddenly the Zion flag appears on a party website, the party basically is finished. One has to wonder whether there are no people left with a spine :(

Ingvaeonic
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 01:53 AM
I'm aware of that.
Here is another example of how say one thing and does another. In the media and in public speeches, Danish People's Party is opposed to the European Union, but in reality they are the party in the Danish parlament, who have voted 'yes' to most EU-laws.
This is really typical of Danish People's Party, they sa one thing, that in it self is good enough, but does the complete opposite.
They are nothing but a zionist puttetshow!


Again, this is just a mascarade. Danish People's Party have openly said that they are not opposted to the non-white mass immigration, they are only opposed to UNEMPLOYED immigrants, regardless of race.


First of all, the Danish government consists of Venstre (Left, the Danish liberalist party), Konservative (Conservatives) and Danish People's Party as parlamentary support. The Danish government would not exist if it wasn't for the support of Danish People's Party. Danish People's Party could therefore demant deportations or complete stop for all non-white immigration in return for their support. They would do that if they really see the massive non-white immigration as the problem that it is - but they don't.
Danish People's Party is nothing but retoric and hot air. They say some decent things before an election to get the lemmings to vote for them, and with great success.

And Radikale Venstre (Radical Left) Isn't a part of the Danish government and is not, despite the name, a communist party, it's a liberalist party.

That is disappointing to read. Just when you think a political party in Northern Europe has the balls to call a spade a spade and speak the truth about non-white immigration and actually start to do something about it, they end up being a sham. Very disappointing.

Forest_Dweller
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 03:06 AM
I really can't believe you guys won't support a party that wants to stop all none western immigration, simply because they have a few Jews in their ranks. Jews are not all the same, some Jews are only Jewish by birth and are Atheist. The way I see it voting for a party like this can't be any worse than voting for the current ultra left wing Marxist party that Denmark currently have.

I honestly think most people on here refuse to support a party like this, for the sole reason that they might have re-establish their views on Jews in general:-O

Even if they are only stopping immigration of useless immigrants and deporting unemployed ones, that is still less immigration which is a good thing. If it stops political correctness being so dominant that is another good thing, less race mixing propaganda etc. People aren't just gonna wake up one day and be ultra right wing, we need to ween them off it.

InvaderNat
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 03:49 AM
Again, this is just a mascarade. Danish People's Party have openly said that they are not opposted to the non-white mass immigration, they are only opposed to UNEMPLOYED immigrants, regardless of race.

Yeah but do they actually believe that, or is it just putting a moderate spin on the anti-immigration issue. Many more established parties in Europe often do that even though their real goals seem to be the complete (more or less) de-multiculturalisation of their respective nations.


First of all, the Danish government consists of Venstre (Left, the Danish liberalist party), Konservative (Conservatives) and Danish People's Party as parlamentary support. The Danish government would not exist if it wasn't for the support of Danish People's Party. Danish People's Party could therefore demant deportations or complete stop for all non-white immigration in return for their support. They would do that if they really see the massive non-white immigration as the problem that it is - but they don't.
Danish People's Party is nothing but retoric and hot air. They say some decent things before an election to get the lemmings to vote for them, and with great success.

But to be realistic the other two parties probably wouldn't agree to that no matter what. From what I've read they are definitely no faux-Nationalist party like say UKIP.

From Wikipedia

The party holds that Denmark is not naturally a country of immigration, and that it has never been so. The party also does not accept a multi-ethnic transformation of Denmark, and rejects multiculturalism. Party leader Pia Kjærsgaard has stated she does "not want Denmark as a multiethnic, multicultural society", and that a multiethnic Denmark would be a "folkelig disaster". The party seek to drastically reduce non-Western immigration, oppose islamisation, and favour cultural assimilation of immigrants. In 2010, the party proposed to put a complete stop to all immigration from non-Western countries, a continuation of a proposal the month before to toughen the 24 year rule.


Cooperation with the Conservative-Liberal coalition government resulted in the implementation of some of their key demands, most importantly strong restrictions in immigration policies, which have resulted in what it described as Europe's strictest immigration laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People%27s_Party#Immigration

Ingvaeonic
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 04:29 AM
The [DF-instituted] changes to Denmark's immigration laws drew some criticism from the former social democratic government of Sweden, the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and the Council of Europe's human rights commissioner. In a response to the criticism from the Swedish government Pia Kjærsgaard said: "If they want to turn Stockholm, Gothenburg or Malmö into a Scandinavian Beirut, with clan wars, honour killings and gang rapes, let them do it. We can always put a barrier on the Øresund Bridge."[13]

Well, that's a point in the DF's favour; anything that pisses off the UNHCR is a good thing.

velvet
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 02:25 PM
I honestly think most people on here refuse to support a party like this, for the sole reason that they might have re-establish their views on Jews in general

Personally, I'm a little undecided on that. At the end of the day Jews are just another group of immigrants, non-western ones on top; on the other hand, opposing the chosen ones is for now really not a good idea, as long as the media machinery is mainly in their hands. So it's maybe just tactics.

And indeed DF is the only party in Europe that so far could put fierce restrictions on immigration. But when there is a development like with EDL where loyalty to Israel is greater than to England, or like TEA party where they invite Rabbis, there really is a line where one should accept "the occasional Jew" methinks. It's one thing not to start with chasing them, but swearing loyalty to Israel makes a nationalist party look really bad too.


And you shouldnt let you blind by the notion they are "atheists". This is no precondition for that they believe in their chosen status, nor does this make them less "Jewish". A Turk doesnt become less Turkish just because he's christian or atheist either, right? Just saying :)

Atavist
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 02:55 PM
I really can't believe you guys won't support a party that wants to stop all none western immigration
Please read my posts. Danish People's Party DOESN'T was to stop non-white immigration. If they did, they would at least have taken steps towards that goal - they haven't. In reality, Denmark have had the biggest number of immigrants last year.


because they have a few Jews in their ranks. Jews are not all the same, some Jews are only Jewish by birth and are Atheist.
I'm sorry, but do you understand the concept of race? Race and religion are two completely different things.
To oppose immigration has to come from a standpoint of securing the racial integrity of one's nation. Therefore it's impossible for a nationalist to support a party who allows non-whites into their party!


I honestly think most people on here refuse to support a party like this, for the sole reason that they might have re-establish their views on Jews in general:-O.

Do you see jews as some sort of protected minority? If you do, why? If you doesn't, then why are you offended by people opposing a party who openly supports the jews in every way?
Don't forget what kind of race mixing propaganda the jews are feeding us on a daily basis.



Even if they are only stopping immigration of useless immigrants and deporting unemployed ones, that is still less immigration which is a good thing.
Danish People's Party doesn't want to lower the number of immigrants (that's why the number of immigrants are rising every year), they just want the non-white invaders to have an education when they come crawling into our country.
A negro is still a negro, even if he has an education and a job!



Yeah but do they actually believe that, or is it just putting a moderate spin on the anti-immigration issue. Many more established parties in Europe often do that even though their real goals seem to be the complete (more or less) de-multiculturalisation of their respective nations.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http://nyhederne-dyn.tv2.dk/article.php/id-23824671:pia-k-masseindvandring-er-fint.html&act=url



But to be realistic the other two parties probably wouldn't agree to that no matter what. From what I've read they are definitely no faux-Nationalist party like say UKIP.
Without Danish People's Party's mandates, the Danish government would not have the majority of votes in the Danish parliament. If Danish People's Party really was against immigration and multiculturalism, they would demand some reforms on the immigration area in return of their votes on the financial law.

InvaderNat
Sunday, December 26th, 2010, 10:13 PM
And indeed DF is the only party in Europe that so far could put fierce restrictions on immigration. But when there is a development like with EDL where loyalty to Israel is greater than to England, or like TEA party where they invite Rabbis, there really is a line where one should accept "the occasional Jew" methinks. It's one thing not to start with chasing them, but swearing loyalty to Israel makes a nationalist party look really bad too.

Groups like the EDL who ally with Israeli/Jewish interests usually do it to piss Muslims off and to try and show that they aren't 'far-right nazis'.

Angus
Thursday, February 10th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Do Denmark's immigration laws breach human rights?

Critics of Denmark's tightening rules on immigration and integration say the country is violating European norms, including human rights legislation. How much has Denmark's approach to these issues been transformed under pressure from a right-wing populist party?

More at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12366676

Linda Trostenhatten
Tuesday, March 1st, 2011, 02:06 PM
Pía Kjaersgaard of the liberal national party filed to police for disclosing confidential info

yeasterday, monday Kjaersgaard explained in her weekly newsletter, how many of the 35 Palestinians that on 16 December 2010 were granted citizenship by the parliament, and had convictions for crime, could not support themselves or had debts to the public.

But the information about the 35 Palestinians were in its time sent to the parliament's naturalization committee and therefore they are confidential. This is confirmed by the Ministry of Integration against Jyllands Posten.




Kjearsgaard refuses that this was illegal and that she did not name anyone and only gave statistics the puplic is entitled to

http://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/politik/article1511505.ece

Oblongbox
Thursday, June 30th, 2011, 12:09 PM
I think it is about time a country see's the truth behind this massive wave of
SWA countries feeding on western wealth,and social program's it's like a cancer.

They don't want to change for their host country but they want their host country change for them,my opinion is that it's time for them to leave,they start
more trouble and fear in everybody and the host country's tax payer's hold the
burden from paying out of their wallets.

But that is the far left liberals for you saying that they deserve a better life,let their own Government provide that for them,Ray Charles can see what their
intentions area massive flood of muslims and get into the political system and vote for their agenda................!:thumbup

gormsgast
Thursday, June 30th, 2011, 05:20 PM
Ok everyone, I have just joined today so bear with me, I may have posted in the wrong thread. Folk in all Western European Nations must wake up to the fact that we are experiencing the start of the down fall of White Western culture and the eventual eradication of the White race with this insidious tide of Muslim immigration to all our lands, unless we take action soon to halt the tide. There is an ongoing consensus that anyone who criticises immigration is a Nazi.
Well, if being concerned about your ethnicity and culture being overturned in favour of a Religion [Islam] is being a Nazi, then I'm proud to be called one. I make no apologies for my stance on this.
I am now starting to ramble all over the place now, so please bear with me. I want to applaud the Dutch for the banning of Halal/Kosher slaughter of animals. If only our politicians [British] had the balls to do the same we would be halfway to to getting our country back on Track by not bowing down to Political correctness that always favours the Middle Eastern Cultures over the indigenous population from whatever country they reside in.
The corrupt EU is instrumental in many of the problems we are facing today and the sooner the Whole EU dream is shattered the better. Please don't think I am anti Europe, I believe, as many others do in England, that we should have close links and trade amongst ourselves but absolutely not a Federal Europe, it won't work!!! Look at what happened to Russia, it couldn't be held to together.....corruption on a grand scale, favouritism amongst the ruling elte etc' etc' etc'. That is the eventual outcome of a Federal Europe or part of the New World Order.

ozhammer
Thursday, July 7th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Well I suggest if the DF (DPP in english) cant do the job then either Entryism or formation of another party that will demand and like I say make it a indigenous based party where no jew only christians and no arab(obviously) can join.

I know DF hold the balance of power but if a real entryist tactic was used then things maybe different. The Zionists ARE the real problem after all.

But forget economic really the main thing should be OUR SURVIVAL AS DANISH PEOPLES IN OUR OWN LAND. Simple put now how can Defending and Supporting your own people be considered racist? If that is the case then I guess Israel's recent move to dump 800 African immigrants and maybe one day the 400 others that arent Jew-enough is racist too?

So if the DF hold the balance of power form a faction within it and get the leader to step down and place a Real Leader for the People.

Protecting the Native isnt racist and if it is then wear the badge with pride

The Horned God
Thursday, July 7th, 2011, 04:26 PM
So much so in fact that Europe's largest Jewish group recently removed them from their 'extremist' list.


I love this. It just goes to show how unprincipled the Jewish lobby is. The DF are not against Jewish immigration, so they get awarded a "free pass" to speak out about 3rd world immigration. if they were against Jewish immigration to Denmark (or against anything Jewish), the Jews would be all over them!

Oblongbox
Saturday, July 9th, 2011, 02:47 PM
It's the Governments that let's this trash in,and before you know it the trash will be in Government then we will have a problem it's time to raise up and defeat these animals!

Gerulf
Sunday, October 9th, 2011, 05:24 PM
Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Denmark's new Prime Minister, has announced plans to reshape Denmark's immigration policies, and it won't be for the better.

http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/10/06/a-slap-to-europes-far-right-denmark-reshapes-its-immigration-policies/


But Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Denmark's new prime minister, has plans to change all that. Thorning-Schmidt, who led a left-leaning, three-party alliance to victory on Sep. 15 and formed her government on Oct. 3, has already announced bold policy moves that will dramatically alter the tone of Denmark's debate on immigration.

Denmark's coalition will abolish the Immigration Ministry—a strong signal that the far-right's grip on immigration really is over.

Sorry Denmark, but unfortunately you are about to get a strong dose of "diversity".

BritishLad
Sunday, October 9th, 2011, 10:57 PM
god this terrible, i really feel sorry for our Scandinavian brothers! theyre governments are practically actin like traitors!

Granraude
Sunday, October 9th, 2011, 11:05 PM
This is saddening... It's ridiculous how much trouble the immigrants are causing in Denmark. Hells Angels are seen as "heroes" due to them fighting the immigrant gangs. That in itself says a lot.

InvaderNat
Sunday, October 9th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Oh great, just when they were making inroads the leftist self-haters come along and ruin everything. :thumbdown It's like they can't stand to see a nation defend itself, they can't stand a European nation not submitting to the multicult. :(

Ocko
Sunday, October 9th, 2011, 11:08 PM
They are heading for civil war like everywhere else.

The cultural Marxists will try to push their agenda through no matter whether they kill their own people or not. They are commited to genozid their own people and nothing will stop them unless it is a bullet in their head.

Radulfr
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 07:48 AM
This is saddening... It's ridiculous how much trouble the immigrants are causing in Denmark. Hells Angels are seen as "heroes" due to them fighting the immigrant gangs. That in itself says a lot.

I am of the opinion that the Angels don't fight immigrant gangs out of any patriotic feeling but merely to secure their established place as the biggest gang of them all. Or is there proof that says otherwise?
All in all, it is sad. Lets see how long the other political construction of the same degree in Holland will last. It was based on the Danish principal if I am correct.

TrueEnglish
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 11:42 AM
Helle Thorning-Schmidt needs a slap

velvet
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 12:15 PM
I am of the opinion that the Angels don't fight immigrant gangs out of any patriotic feeling but merely to secure their established place as the biggest gang of them all. Or is there proof that says otherwise?

The Jackal Manifesto:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/06/jackal-manifesto.html

Original in Danish here (http://dk.hells-angels.dk/default.php?id=16393)

Although it tries to use "politically correct" newspeech to avoid being branded "racist" (the most evil crime in today's multikultopia), it is a manifesto against the growing influence through violence and fear by immigrants towards Danes and the (partly police-backed through doing nothing) take-over of districts by Bandidos and/or immigrants gangs, these so-called no-go areas.

Now, HA isnt a club of altruists and their motives certainly arent free from egoism for their very own interests, this should be obvious. But I still think that they are doing something positive for Denmark and the people.




Back to topic. I saw in TV after the election that the new PM cancelled the border controls right away again. Free movement for Roma and gypsies and other criminals to enter Denmark, their "human rights" served while the safety of Denmark and the human rights of Danes is fucked over. It's sad that the people voted the way they did. Why?

SaxonPagan
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 12:22 PM
Ah, the joys of 'democracy' ;)

As far as the dumb masses are concerned, it merely represents a means of allowing the native population to vote itself out of existence! I'm afraid that history has shown (time and again) that the peasants do not always understand what is best for them, and I'm not just talking about Denmark here.

Olavssønn
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 12:24 PM
Do they want to take Denmark in the same direction as Sweden? The relatively strict immigration-policies of Denmark is also one of the reasons for the considerably lower numbers of reported rapes by immigrants.

Radulfr
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 12:48 PM
The Jackal Manifesto:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/06/jackal-manifesto.html

Original in Danish here (http://dk.hells-angels.dk/default.php?id=16393)

Although it tries to use "politically correct" newspeech to avoid being branded "racist" (the most evil crime in today's multikultopia), it is a manifesto against the growing influence through violence and fear by immigrants towards Danes and the (partly police-backed through doing nothing) take-over of districts by Bandidos and/or immigrants gangs, these so-called no-go areas.

Now, HA isnt a club of altruists and their motives certainly arent free from egoism for their very own interests, this should be obvious. But I still think that they are doing something positive for Denmark and the people.

Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware of such sentiment within the HA. I know for a fact that they race funds for children and such but this I didn't know.
Anyway, I think it is good that a group of people outside the so-called status quo is doing something about this problem. I hope it sets an example.

Huginn ok Muninn
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 03:09 PM
The problem with the left vs the right is that the moment the left gets in power it destroys everything, then there is nothing left to "conserve." Conservatism and preservation are losing ideologies. They are stagnant ideologies. Without positive pressure (that is, population growth combined with a healthy self-image) we will lose this.

We need to have positive policies that do more than conserve. Policies that actively scour out the rot of cultural marxism and give kids a positive self-image and a culture that values family and folk above all. We need to indoctrinate the other direction and completely destroy the cultural marxist ideology by exposing it to children for what it is... they need to know what our enemies are trying to do to us and why. The strong taboo should be against the kind of policies this woman espouses.. it is treason cloaked in altruism, and it needs to be fought actively and continuously throughout the culture.

Heinrich Harrer
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware of such sentiment within the HA. I know for a fact that they race funds for children and such but this I didn't know.
Anyway, I think it is good that a group of people outside the so-called status quo is doing something about this problem. I hope it sets an example.

I don't give too much about the Hells Angels though, as they have turkish thugs as members in Germany and even a chapter in Turkey. It looks like the danish manifesto mentioned above describes a lot of the problems caused by muslim mass immigration, but I find it amusing how PC they are while not engaged in criminal activity (whining about the 'spiritual depravity of racism' and emphasizing that not only ethnic Danes but people of all races are affected by those 'jackals' and that the 'jackals' also include some ethnic Danes).

Freja_se
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 03:59 PM
god this terrible, i really feel sorry for our Scandinavian brothers! theyre governments are practically actin like traitors!

I am through feeling sorry for people who do nothing but vote for their own ethnic destruction over and over again.

I think we must start putting pressure on people to take responsibility instead of feeling sorry for them.

It is not some great secret being kept from people that mainstream parties want mass-immigration, especially the left. Everyone can see it.

There simply is NO excuse anymore for keeping these traitors in power and to vote for their politics of multicultralism and multiracialism over and over again.



I don't feel sorry for those who vote for this, I do feel sorry for those who refuse to do so and the very, very few who vote for alternative parties.

The sad truth is that this is but a tiny minority in comparison to all the others who complain about multiculturalism and then go back and vote the same parties into power over and over.

"Democrazy"....can it really work? Well, soon the immigrants have the voting power and then it will all be over!

Patrioten
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 04:00 PM
It would be interesting to hear an analysis of the election results. Something tells me that the shift to the left had less to do with pro-immigration sentiments and more to do with the economic situation and voters prefering the socialists' wellfare offerings over the right's during these times of economic hardship. Again the utter ridicilousness of democracy shows its face when voters wanting one thing (wellfare) gets everyone something else (increased immigration).

It is common to refer to the dictatorship of the majority, but at least then the actual will of the majority is supposed to dictate policy. What we have here, and in many other European countries, is a bizzarre spectacle where a majority is formed to the benefit of a specific policy package for which there exists no proven majority.

This is not a dictatorship of the majority, it's instead a sort of parasitic minority rule under the guise of a majority. This majority is in turn an unknown and unlikely base of support for this policy package. I very much doubt that public sentiment on immigration in Denmark or any other European country can be gauged by the election results for the left vs the right, the relationship between one's stance on immigration and one's party of choice is no-where near absolute. This means that election results themselves cannot be used as justification or basis for policy, if this policy is to be decided by the people (something which, if one were to ask the left, is very much in doubt since it has the potential to render ideologically undesirable results).

If this is the "democratic bargain" on offer then I'll happily see it replaced by a dictator benevolent to my own interests and preferences instead. If we're going to play democracy it better be for real or we can each go our separate ways.

OnePercent
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 08:23 PM
It would be interesting to hear an analysis of the election results. Something tells me that the shift to the left had less to do with pro-immigration sentiments and more to do with the economic situation and voters prefering the socialists' wellfare offerings over the right's during these times of economic hardship. Again the utter ridicilousness of democracy shows its face when voters wanting one thing (wellfare) gets everyone something else (increased immigration).


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."

- eighteenth-century Scottish historian Alexander Tytler

Freja_se
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 10:28 PM
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."

- eighteenth-century Scottish historian Alexander Tytler


Democracy in a basically malignant, Jewish-controlled system is the end of white people and of white countries. Adolf Hitler knew it and saw through it. Democracy is very fragile and easy to abuse and can only work in a system made by and for white people, and that is controlled by white people.

Jewish-controlled democracy in white countries is an illusion of freedom designed to make people falsely believe that they can change things within a system that is inherently an enemy and hostile to them.

Ediruc
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 10:49 PM
Why do White populations elect these politicians into office if they truly aren't for them? :bconfused

Alfadur
Monday, October 10th, 2011, 10:56 PM
Democracy in a basically malignant, Jewish-controlled system is the end of white people and of white countries. Adolf Hitler knew it and saw through it. Democracy is very fragile and easy to abuse and can only work in a system made by and for white people, and that is controlled by white people.
Indeed. That's why the democracy of Ancient Greece and the althing of the Germanic tribes worked so well; because it was by the people and for the people. And it wasn't supposed to be a mass-democracy like we have today - only those who have something to lose were allowed to vote. Nowadays, you have to pander to the lowest elements in society to get voted into office.

I'm not sure if I would support a dictatorship like Hitler's or Mussolini's as a permanent system in the long run, but probably as a stop-gap measure against the current destruction.


Why do White populations elect these politicians into office if they truly aren't for them?
Well, people never voted for multiculturalism. In the 70s, the left-wing parties basically promised to create better conditions for working class, and implement a public healthcare system. This is what people voted for. The multiculturalism and pro-immigration policies just came with the package. There was never any form of referendum or public vote on if immigrants should be allowed into the country or not. Sweden didn't consult the Swedes; we just imported boatloads of aliens because we had labor shortages. After we started letting them in, it never stopped, because that would be politically incorrect.

(In fact, when Switzerland did a public referendum on the minarets, the majority of the Swiss voted "No".)

Sindig_og_stoisk
Thursday, October 13th, 2011, 12:27 PM
In many ways, this development is not as bad as it seems. Although the previous Danish government took a lot of heat for its immigration politics, this was mostly multicultural hysteria: There never was an effective halt to immigration. Family unions became more difficult to obtain, so immigrants came as refugees and exchange students instead. During the previous government, the percentage of foreign-born in the country just kept on increasing, as did the gargantuan sums of money paid to these entirely unwelcome people. The new cabinet has merely promised to remove the most offensive pieces of legislation crafted by the previous cabinet: "Starthjælpen" which is a reduced rate of certain welfare handouts for foreigners and "Firetyveårsreglen", the 24 year rule (requiring both parties of a marriage between foreigners to be 24 years of age with a proven income and a decent level of personal savings).
While these initiatives were certainly a step in the right direction, they were essentially THE ONLY steps in the right direction on immigration policy in the period 2001-2011.
The border control issue was a complete joke. It accomplished nothing. Same with the Ministry of Integration, whose responsibilities will not be removed entirely in the new cabinet, but instead be divided between the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Social Services.

The borders of Denmark will still be completely open, and a flood of foreigners will still pour through. These foreigners will continue to mooch on a welfare system that they do not contribute to. Nothing important changes with the new cabinet.

Hells Angels and the other biker gangs are no solution. They are in it for the money and have nothing against foreigners as long as they cooperate.
Their much vaunted "Jackal Manifest" is just a poor excuse for trading in narcotics.

It was a very confusing election here in Denmark. The Prime Minister and his Liberal Party actually increased their percentage of votes, as did "Liberal Alliance" the libertarian party with the motto on immigration policy "Open borders, closed registers" (which meant that they only support immigration of foreigners who can work, ie. not the Muslims). The reason for the election loss belongs with the Conservative Party, the junior coalition partner who was cut in half, and the Christian Democrats, who took a couple of thousands votes from the right wing in key districts but failed to get into Parliament.
Among the red parties, both the Social Democrats (think UK Labour) and the Socialist Party had a catastrophically bad election, but barely managed to obtain a majority thanks to a coalition with the Communists and the social liberal centrist party. The left wing is only about 8,000 votes ahead of the right wing, and recent opinion polls show a new majority building for the right. For the left, it is a very volatile situation with an unclear agenda and a really strong opposition.
In 2013 the finances of Denmark needs to be renegotiated, something that our current government will have an extremely hard time doing. This mess will most likely result in a new election, which the right wing is likely to win.

Ingvaeonic
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011, 11:57 AM
Why do White populations elect these politicians into office if they truly aren't for them? :bconfused

That is the $64,000 question. But it is the system: the fix is in. White countries do not have genuinely nationalist parties that would be capable of forming a truly nationalist government.

What is in store for Denmark is as frightening as it is tragic. I hope our Danish comrades can and will fight this move.

Van Wellenkamp
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Maybe you should invite Breivik over for a stay. He seemed to have a good way of dealing with this issue.

velvet
Wednesday, October 19th, 2011, 01:17 PM
Maybe you should invite Breivik over for a stay. He seemed to have a good way of dealing with this issue.

Uhm, no. What he did he did out of the wrong motives and for the wrong goal. And it spoiled any common sense based discussion about the immigration issue, because it just fuelled the perception that whites really are the problem because they are intolerant and haters who even blow up the capital and then go on a killing spree motivated by their hate.

He just confirmed that the laws against "racism", "discrimination" and the "hate crimes" are perfectly justified to tame evil whitey.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Wednesday, October 19th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Uhm, no. What he did he did out of the wrong motives and for the wrong goal. And it spoiled any common sense based discussion about the immigration issue, because it just fuelled the perception that whites really are the problem because they are intolerant and haters who even blow up the capital and then go on a killing spree motivated by their hate.

He just confirmed that the laws against "racism", "discrimination" and the "hate crimes" are perfectly justified to tame evil whitey.

Indeed! The nationalist, anti-islamificiation movements of Europe were essentially bombed decades back in time by the actions of this Christian video game freak. What precisely is he supposed to have accomplished?

All sorts of anti-establishment, anti-multicultural thinkers and activists were subject to extensive loathing and ridicule in the months after Breiviks heinous attacks. It is an incredible shame that the first time that the names 'Fjordman' and 'Gates of Vienna' appear in mainstream media is when they are accused of inspiring atrocities.

Ilva
Sunday, November 6th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Don't be fooled by Danish People's Party! They are a zionist puppetshow!
They have been a part of the Danish government for almost a decade now, and last year we saw they GREATEST immigration ever recorded!
Danish People's Party is a smoke and mirrors show! They do some talking about immigration on the one hand to capture votes, but on the other hand they celebrate the mass-immigration of non-whites. They have promonent jews in their party and even arabs.

I am disappointed. After all the over the top rhetoric about Pia Kjaersgaard: comparing her to Hitler because of her zeal in keeping Denmark truly Danish; now you are saying that she is just a paper tiger and actually full of it?
I've been wondering what was happening with her party after the sad election result with Helle now at the helm. The irresponsible liberals now will have free rein it would appear.
Ilva

Atavist
Sunday, November 6th, 2011, 05:09 PM
I am disappointed. After all the over the top rhetoric about Pia Kjaersgaard: comparing her to Hitler because of her zeal in keeping Denmark truly Danish; now you are saying that she is just a paper tiger and actually full of it?
I've been wondering what was happening with her party after the sad election result with Helle now at the helm. The irresponsible liberals now will have free rein it would appear.
Ilva

Pia Kjærsgaard is a typical zionist cultural-conservative. She doesn't like Islam or Muslims, but she doesn't have a problem with Arabs. Her idea of a perfect solution is for all Muslims to convert to Christianity and get jobs.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Monday, November 7th, 2011, 09:08 PM
I am disappointed. After all the over the top rhetoric about Pia Kjaersgaard: comparing her to Hitler because of her zeal in keeping Denmark truly Danish; now you are saying that she is just a paper tiger and actually full of it?
I've been wondering what was happening with her party after the sad election result with Helle now at the helm. The irresponsible liberals now will have free rein it would appear.
Ilva

Yes, considering that Pia Kjærsgårds involvement in the previous government actually never accomplished anything worthwhile, one can only wonder what the establishment response will ever be if a real Nationalist party were to have any influence on politics and actually get parts of their agenda through.

The MSM has spent most of their time and energy for at least the past five years on persuading the Danish people that 'we are done discussing immigration, integration and foreigners', that 'we have moved beyond such concerns' and that 'debates about immigration and foreigners only occurred because there was nothing important going on'. In the minds of the MSM, immigration policy is already as tight as it can get, and actually needs to be loosened 'on humanitarian grounds'.

During the election, (which was unusually tightly controlled and regulated by the media) the subject of immigration, foreigners, law & order were simply avoided during debates. These are of course subjects where Dansk Folkeparti and the conservative right wing does well. Instead, we had a lot of debates supposedly about economic issues where very little happened apart from the Social Democrats and Socialists making a lot of unsound and unfinanced election promises, which they all abandoned as soon as the election was over.

With a great amount of schadenfreude the MSM has been making the odd report about Pia Kjærsgård supposedly 'being unable to find her place in the new opposition'. We will see, we will see.

The lies, deceit and manipulations of the MSM will one day be discovered by the public. Hopefully this will happen in time for a proper Nationalist party to solve the problems.

Untersberger
Monday, November 7th, 2011, 09:37 PM
Well, How about starting a campaign in Denmark at least about how the MSM is nothing more than a propaganda machine. Think outside the square a little with ideas to do this and do it by exposing their many proven lies regarding Denmark.. This to as many Danes as you possibly can..

Education of truth and facts is effective and in case you think you might be too small to make a difference think of a giant sleeping inside a room at night with just a single mosquito..

Denmark is to beautiful a nation to simply watch from a window and do nothing..

Im just suggesting and mean this with respect.

Atavist
Thursday, November 10th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Here's an article from the Netherlands (in English) explaining how immigration of all kinds has been higher in Denmark than the Netherlands.
http://www.rnw.nl/africa/bulletin/danish-immigration-model-didnt-work

Ingvaeonic
Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 04:08 AM
Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Denmark's new Prime Minister, has announced plans to reshape Denmark's immigration policies, and it won't be for the better.

http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/10/06/a-slap-to-europes-far-right-denmark-reshapes-its-immigration-policies/




Sorry Denmark, but unfortunately you are about to get a strong dose of "diversity".

I am, as always, sympathetic to the plight of the Scandinavian countries and the other Germanic countries of northern Europe. It is disgusting that the respective govts of these countries are doing their level best to destroy the ethnicity of the Germanic natives. Thorning-Schmidt needs to be taken to task for this current betrayal of the Danish people. When will it all end? And the criminal Breivik, as has been said above, has set back by decades nationalist and anti-immigration elements in northern Europe.:thumbdown

Ingvaeonic
Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 05:00 AM
Uhm, no. What he did he did out of the wrong motives and for the wrong goal. And it spoiled any common sense based discussion about the immigration issue, because it just fuelled the perception that whites really are the problem because they are intolerant and haters who even blow up the capital and then go on a killing spree motivated by their hate.

He just confirmed that the laws against "racism", "discrimination" and the "hate crimes" are perfectly justified to tame evil whitey.

It is hateful how he liberal-left traitors have demonised white Germanic peoples in their own countries. To be white and Germanic is criminal to these proponents of pathological self-hatred.

Breivik was a godsend to the liberal-left as it provided yet another means to attack the Germanic natives of northern Europe. He was the demonisation of the white, Germanic peoples made flesh.

EQ Fighter
Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 05:20 AM
It is hateful how he liberal-left traitors have demonised white Germanic peoples in their own countries. To be white and Germanic is criminal to these proponents of pathological self-hatred.

Breivik was a godsend to the liberal-left as it provided yet another means to attack the Germanic natives of northern Europe. He was the demonisation of the white, Germanic peoples made flesh.

Personally I do not consider the CIA to be God, even though they themselves may see themselves that way.

Also I do not judge the entire situation of "Immigration" by a "Made for TV" moment that was most likely a staged episode, and even if it was not, would still NOT change any of the facts.

I do feel very sorry for Scandinavians if they cannot see beyond a cheep trick stunt. Although I will say many Americans are no better.

karolvs
Saturday, December 10th, 2011, 06:02 PM
It seems the reason 'they don't contribute enough to welfare' is a funny one.

The real reason is they are civilian occupiers and destroyers of our culture.

What is his fear? to be called a 'racist'?

Why would one follow a coward?

I don't feel it's cowardice. Since the brainwashing anindoctrination has worked he is using other reasons to garner support. Good move in my opinion. It's not like the contribute a lot to the welfare system, so he's not lying....it's an old political game which we will have to master for a while until we gain a foothold, then it won't matter anymore. But I do applaud your view, I wish we could just come out and list all the reasons, one being that they destroy a culture and heritage we would like to keep intact.

Savant
Saturday, December 17th, 2011, 04:39 AM
Whine, kick, scream all you want but the DPP has still done more than anyone else in Europe. Denmark is the only nation offering payments to 3rd worlders to leave... Jew conspiracies or not, no one else in Europe has accomplished this...

EQ Fighter
Wednesday, December 21st, 2011, 05:27 AM
Hm, this is interesting, didnt know that their (theoretical) power was so great.

In that case, one really has to wonder why they dont use their power to really change something, if they just could dissolve parliament, or threaten to do so.

But its like everywhere, when suddenly the Zion flag appears on a party website, the party basically is finished. One has to wonder whether there are no people left with a spine :(

LOL!

NOT in Politics!

It is more a game of the lessor of the two evils when it comes to voting.

And trust me, I have never up to this point seen a politician that is not evil backstabber.

If you tell the truth in the current political system, you are cut down before you get out of the starting gates.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Wednesday, December 21st, 2011, 02:05 PM
Whine, kick, scream all you want but the DPP has still done more than anyone else in Europe. Denmark is the only nation offering payments to 3rd worlders to leave... Jew conspiracies or not, no one else in Europe has accomplished this...

First of, several countries in Europe has systems of paying money to foreigners willing to leave. Secondly, this system in Denmark was not the work of the Danish People's Party but of a broad coalition of parties. Thirdly, it is a stupid system: Why on earth should Denmark pay money to get rid of unwanted foreigners? We should simply be a sovereign state with the right to throw out anyone we did not want in our country and no obligation to international treaties or 'humanitarian concerns' to prevent us from doing what is needed.

On a final note I might add that the repatriation programme is essentially only used by elderly Bosnians who want to live the last few years of their lives in Bosnia. No one else uses this programme, as they are able to get a lot more money out of the Danish state simply by staying here and receive welfare handouts. Some accomplishment...

Nachtengel
Friday, January 27th, 2012, 01:09 PM
When the Liberal-Conservative coalition led by Lars Lokke Rasmussen came to power in Denmark in 2001, it relied on support from the right-wing and staunchly anti-immigrant Danish People’s Party (DPP). As a result of that union, Denmark passed some of the strictest immigration and asylum laws in Europe. Among other things, its policies restricted benefits to immigrants, limited their ability to work and required Danes marrying a foreigner to post an $11,600 bond. The number of asylum seekers and relatives of immigrants applying for entry into the country dropped by nearly 70% over nine years, and the DPP moved closer to its goal: a complete end to immigration from non-Western countries.

But Helle Thorning-Schmidt, Denmark’s new prime minister, has plans to change all that. Thorning-Schmidt, who led a left-leaning, three-party alliance to victory on Sep. 15 and formed her government on Oct. 3, has already announced bold policy moves that will dramatically alter the tone of Denmark’s debate on immigration.

The government’s common policy outlines a number of concrete changes. They include automatic citizenship for children born and raised in Denmark, regardless of their parents’ citizenship; equal welfare rights for immigrants and Danes; vast reductions in application fees and cash securities; expanded work benefits for asylum seekers; and the possibility of dual citizenship, which will ease the naturalization process. The coalition also plans to ease family reunification rules, which have seen 800 children denied residency permits since 2005, frequently leading to the separation of children and their parents. (In March, the immigration minister resigned after it emerged 36 stateless Palestinians had been wrongly denied citizenship. The government subsequently contacted 400 Palestinian young people who had not been informed of their rights and entitlement to apply.)Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/10/06/a-slap-to-europes-far-right-denmark-reshapes-its-immigration-policies/#ixzz1kfDL5gEF (http://forums.skadi.net/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalsp in.blogs.time.com%2F2011%2F10%2F06%2Fa-slap-to-europes-far-right-denmark-reshapes-its-immigration-policies%2F%23ixzz1kfDL5gEF)

Rohirrim
Saturday, January 28th, 2012, 02:49 AM
And there goes Denmark. Who's next? Iceland? Finland? Eastern Europe? When will the nightmare end? When will we wake up? I'm surprised that Denmark has such strong anti-immigration laws. I hope this is just another politician who wants to attract attention and that the situation won't get worse.

GewaltigeAufgabe
Saturday, January 28th, 2012, 03:48 AM
(In March, the immigration minister resigned after it emerged 36 stateless Palestinians had been wrongly denied citizenship. The government subsequently contacted 400 Palestinian young people who had not been informed of their rights and entitlement to apply.)

This just about ruined my day. Palestinians who had never even thought of entering Denmark just got a notification and free ride to go commit crimes such as theft, assault, and rape in the invitee's country, if I am reading this correctly.

And as for the Schmidt creature, what sort of country would support, or even tolerate such a vile monster in office.

Denmark is following the European disease trend. May the Dane's new Jewish masters have mercy on their souls.

Hersir
Saturday, January 28th, 2012, 12:51 PM
And I thought Denmark would remain the wisest of our brother nations:(

Svante
Saturday, January 28th, 2012, 09:13 PM
And there goes Denmark. Who's next? Iceland? Finland? Eastern Europe? When will the nightmare end? When will we wake up? I'm surprised that Denmark has such strong anti-immigration laws. I hope this is just another politician who wants to attract attention and that the situation won't get worse.
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if Jimmie Åkesson and Sweden Democrats can hold enough seats i n parliament, Reinfeldt he will never get a majoriity to make immigration law worse. the Sweden Democrats move is a good thing.

Patrioten
Saturday, January 28th, 2012, 10:21 PM
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if Jimmie Åkesson and Sweden Democrats can hold enough seats i n parliament, Reinfeldt he will never get a majoriity to make immigration law worse. the Sweden Democrats move is a good thing.Well so far the liberals have worked together with the greens to liberalize the immigration laws, and the greens aren't going anywhere. It depends on which voters the Sweden Democrats can steal, they need to get more votes from the liberal parties in order to pose a threat to future cross-party coalitions in favor of more immigration.

Ocko
Sunday, January 29th, 2012, 01:17 AM
I think people are fed up with immigration everywhere. They may try to destroy our people once more, the question whether their plans are going as far as they wish. Their Jewish masters are going too far and people wake up.

They get already a strong wind of resistance blown into their face and it will grow to a storm.

Whatever they try, desperate actions like the ones planned precedes only their abrupt end. Most likely they know that their time is limited and to create new voters for their genocidal plans.

I see them already dead.

Rohirrim
Sunday, January 29th, 2012, 01:33 AM
I think people are fed up with immigration everywhere. They may try to destroy our people once more, the question whether their plans are going as far as they wish. Their Jewish masters are going too far and people wake up.

They get already a strong wind of resistance blown into their face and it will grow to a storm.

Whatever they try, desperate actions like the ones planned precedes only their abrupt end. Most likely they know that their time is limited and to create new voters for their genocidal plans.

I see them already dead.

I don't see people waking up. Not the youth anyway. They haven't gone out of their confort zone ever in their life and could never debate such things. I remember my classmates chanting "Racist! Racist! Racist!" at a classmate (who's father is apparently black:-O) who made some comments about the number of blacks in prison. Then he said it was so because they're discriminated against, and the people didn't even accept that. Everything and everyone is equal.

Dead Eye
Sunday, January 29th, 2012, 04:45 PM
So now Denmark is not only allowing them to enter at their will,but now they are inviting them in?

Good luck to Denmark.They are going to need it.

Ocko
Sunday, January 29th, 2012, 09:10 PM
The liberals prepare a civil war, the natives against the coloreds

That seems to be their aim. The fight slowly escalates.

Liberals need votes to get their genocidal plans realized therefore they invite the inferior races to Denmark. Because they do not understand what is going on. They are pawns in the destruction of white people.

velvet
Sunday, January 29th, 2012, 09:33 PM
For some reason I (want to) think that this "blow" will heavily backfire.

Now that govt feels like having the "will" of the people behind them, they're going to destroy Denmark and flooding the country and go ridiculous. With all the other stuff that happens, the burglary attack on Odense, the Grand Mosque in Cph pushed through by the new govt... after all, the Pakis need a place to pray....

Who sows wind....? I hope!

Patrioten
Sunday, January 29th, 2012, 09:45 PM
For some reason I (want to) think that this "blow" will heavily backfire.

Now that govt feels like having the "will" of the people behind them, they're going to destroy Denmark and flooding the country and go ridiculous. With all the other stuff that happens, the burglary attack on Odense, the Grand Mosque in Cph pushed through by the new govt... after all, the Pakis need a place to pray....

Who sows wind....? I hope!Hopefully the Danes will realize that they got more than their bargained for. In an ideal world they would be able to get the economic policy they want without having to accept their country being overrun with foreigners, but we're not living in such a world. Let's hope the pro-immigration government is short-lived.

gormsgast
Monday, February 20th, 2012, 08:08 PM
And there goes Denmark. Who's next? Iceland? Finland? Eastern Europe? When will the nightmare end? When will we wake up? I'm surprised that Denmark has such strong anti-immigration laws. I hope this is just another politician who wants to attract attention and that the situation won't get worse.
Things won't get any better now their new PM? is married to the son of Neil Kinnock. Kinnock who was the Labour Leader in the UK, who has got his whole Family on the Euro gravy Train. Known here in the UK as the Welsh windbag.

Tom Schnadelbach
Tuesday, February 21st, 2012, 02:04 PM
And I thought Denmark would remain the wisest of our brother nations:(
My great grandfather was a schleswiger dane and his wife my great grandmother was from Alborg, so I wish you were correct, but I'd say the wisest one is the Icelanders. And even they are letting duskies in these days.

Sindig_og_stoisk
Tuesday, February 21st, 2012, 04:33 PM
And as for the Schmidt creature, what sort of country would support, or even tolerate such a vile monster in office.


At the last election, the Social Democrats led by Thorning-Schmidt suffered a massive loss of voters, getting the worst election result since 1906. It was the great progress of her coalition partner, the Social Liberals, who secured the victory for the left wing as well as division in the (supposedly) right wing. In particular the Christian Democrats who are not members of the right wing coalition siphoned a few thousand right wing votes out of key election districts. Ever since taking office, opinion polls have overwhelmingly showed that a growing majority of Danes oppose the policy of their new government. This is unheard of in recent Danish history, as a newly elected government typically has several months, perhaps half a year, of support before the people become disillusioned.

Whether or not this lack of support is related to their immigration policy, I honestly do not know. For the past few years the mainstream media has been following a policy of systematically avoiding any debate on immigration and foreigners, claiming that economical issues are more important and that we are done debating immigration.

KingOvGermania
Tuesday, February 21st, 2012, 04:40 PM
And I thought Denmark would remain the wisest of our brother nations:(

Well, considering the fact that Scandinavia in general is very, very, very liberal and culturally Marxist (even the 'conservatives' there are liberals by most standards!!), I wouldn't think so at all. My best wishes to the Danish people in regards to the inevitable, oncoming onslaught, you shall need it. And 'Blow' to the 'Far'-right?! Hahaha, no. When several European PM's (Merkel, Sarkozy, and Cameron) have said multiculturalism has failed, and my latest National Geographic issue is covering the onslaught (Yes, they are, seriously), you know a tidal wave of the European is going to come crashing down. It's just a matter of 'Are we going to wait until its too late'?

skjalm hvide
Tuesday, February 21st, 2012, 05:04 PM
The new cultural-marxist Danish government has already eased the rules for family reunification, which basically means that new hordes of Somalis and Afghans are soon to arrive. The genocide continues....:(

Tom Schnadelbach
Tuesday, February 21st, 2012, 05:18 PM
When the Liberal-Conservative coalition led by Lars Lokke Rasmussen came to power in Denmark in 2001, it relied on support from the right-wing and staunchly anti-immigrant Danish People’s Party (DPP). As a result of that union, Denmark passed some of the strictest immigration and asylum laws in Europe. Among other things, its policies restricted benefits to immigrants, limited their ability to work and required Danes marrying a foreigner to post an $11,600 bond.

Danes marrying foreigners must post an $11,600 bond? How is that with EU citizens living in Denmark? According to the EU treaty, they have the right to bring their non-eu spouses to live with them and the non-eu spouses have the same rights as eu citizens as long as the marriage holds together, and they can't be charged anything for it. Does that mean that a dane marrying a canadian woman would have to pay but a greek marrying a somali would get her a danish residence permit for free?

paganwinterviking
Wednesday, February 22nd, 2012, 02:54 PM
"Den Norønne rase må slakte den andre
Når blåmenn dunker for tungt på vår dør"

RoyBatty
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 06:18 PM
And there goes Denmark. Who's next? Iceland? Finland? Eastern Europe? When will the nightmare end? When will we wake up? I'm surprised that Denmark has such strong anti-immigration laws. I hope this is just another politician who wants to attract attention and that the situation won't get worse.

It's wishful thinking that the situation won't get worse. :(

The only way to end the nightmare is for the general population to wake up and

- for Europeans to start reclaiming their countries from the claws of the USA (military occupation of Europe, global economic terror through US Financial scams such as SubPrime Mortgages, Dollar hegemony over oil-trading etc) and those who control the USA. (ZOG, European & American Banks, various Plutocrats and "Royal" Families around the world, The Military Industrial Complex etc)

- for Europeans to start reclaiming their countries from the Banks, from speculator vampires, from immigrants, from Leftists, from corrupt politicians (all the mainstream parties are infected).

It's a tall order and doesn't seem likely to happen unless the Great Satan USA and the current EUSSR system can somehow be collapsed.

The immigration policies and the sponsorship (using our taxes) of "asylum seekers" and immigrants are being done deliberately according to a program which calls for the multiculturalisation of Europe and which has an undeclared cultural and democraphic genocide against Native Europeans at its core.

Our Corrupt Ruling Elites, Plutocrats, the Corporatocracy and all the institutions they have gained control over ie the Banks, The Media, Academia, Mainstream Political Parties, The Police, The (useless) Church and so forth are some of the primary drivers behind this evil system which is programmed to culturally annihilate us.

Forget idiotic American talk about a "Clash of Civilisations" against Islam. This evil system, this madness which is already within our midsts and which is perpetrated by traitors from our own people and from ZOG is much, much worse than anything the Camel Drivers can come up with.

No doubt some of the luvvies here will claim I'm being paranoid but how can I possibly be when it's clear as daylight that our once healthy, decent, safe and functional EUROPEAN societies are being "transformed" into trashy copies of trashy Judeo-America?

This transformation isn't happening "by accident" or "through coincidence". It's being done by design and pretty much all the big names and influential players and families are in on it.

Denmark is the latest example of this. Even countries like Poland and Russia are being "liberalised" although there is obviously still a lot more resistance in Slavic countries against modern Western "values". (Meaning sick, degenerate anti-values, in other words).

The West is sick. It's become a textbook example of stupidity, degeneracy and self-inflicted (but guided and directed by ZOG) suicidal policies. In a couple of decades there won't be much left. Native Europeans will have become minorities in what used to be their own countries. :thumbdown

velvet
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 07:12 PM
When several European PM's (Merkel, Sarkozy, and Cameron) have said multiculturalism has failed

Then you need to ask what exactly they mean with that.

Indeed, multikult (meaning the happy coexistence of many cultures) obviously doesnt work, now the program is named assimiliation of the racial aliens, whose import continues in ever greater numbers.

It's an illusion to believe that they would suddenly "wake up" to the "mistake" they made and start deporting them. See RoyBatty's post, it's a program by design that has our genocide at its core.



Can you scan and post the NatGeo article maybe?

Patrioten
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 07:22 PM
Then you need to ask what exactly they mean with that.

Indeed, multikult (meaning the happy coexistence of many cultures) obviously doesnt work, now the program is named assimiliation of the racial aliens, whose import continues in ever greater numbers.

It's an illusion to believe that they would suddenly "wake up" to the "mistake" they made and start deporting them. See RoyBatty's post, it's a program by design that has our genocide at its core.



Can you scan and post the NatGeo article maybe?Indeed. The elected politicians nowadays are either liberals or socialists, the same politicians that up until very recently supported the status quo of integration. Now they have realized that more and more people feel uneasy over the thought of unrestricted immigration and settlement in their homelands, and have to come up with a compromise which satisfies first and foremost their goals of free immigration and tolerance, as well as the less important demands of the voting public. They haven't changed their mind on policy, they have simply realized that parliamentary democracy, as opposed to a simple dictatorship, requires that the politicians convince rather than instruct the people that they hold power over.

And so they come up with plans for more spending towards language courses for newly arrived immigrants, and the occasional reference to a heritage that they themselves hold to be worthless, they merely want to temporarily soothe the anxieties of their prejudice-stricken electorate. They can always hope that the new generations of Europeans will be more in tune with their own values and ideas for the future, which means they no longer will have to dress up their indifference towards European civilization, just as in the good old days of the 90s when people kept quiet and multiculturalism ruled the day.

RoyBatty
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 07:26 PM
When several European PM's (Merkel, Sarkozy, and Cameron) have said multiculturalism has failed, and my latest National Geographic issue is covering the onslaught (Yes, they are, seriously), you know a tidal wave of the European is going to come crashing down.

Merkel, Sarkozy & Camer00n's utterings are what is known as "political rhetoric". It's meaningless.

They just say this kind of thing to grab a few headlines and to appease the natives (meaning, the original natives).

- They have no serious intention to stem the immigration tide.
- They have no serious program to stem the immigration tide.
- They have no serious will to stem the immigration tide.

- The Governing Structures of Europe has no intention, program or will to stem the immigration tide. Quite the contrary. They are welcoming, encouraging and even funding it via our taxes and via the National Treasuries of Europe.

There is nothing difficult or complex about enforcing border controls, about rounding up illegals and sending them home, about cancelling "asylum" and so forth yet nothing is being done.

The reason why nothing is being done is because the powers-that-be don't want anything done and won't allow anything to be done whilst the general population remain ignorant, apathetic and inanimate.

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gormsgast
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 09:23 PM
rA7Ymki71fM

What an arrogant prat she is!

Nachtengel
Thursday, February 16th, 2017, 08:06 AM
The Folketing, Denmark’s unicameral parliament, has passed a resolution stating that Danes should not become minorities in Danish communities, as figures show the migrant and migrant-descended population are now a majority in Brøndby Strand and Odense.
“Parliament notes with concern that today there are areas in Denmark where the number of immigrants from non-Western countries and their descendants is over 50 percent,” the resolution states.

“It is parliament’s opinion that Danes should not be a minority in residential areas in Denmark.”

Denmark, like many other European countries, saw a surge in sexual assaults and harassment by migrants after they began to arrive in large numbers.

Rafi Ibrahim, a Syrian who has been settled in Denmark for many years, told reporters that the new arrivals find it difficult to control themselves around Western women.

“If they see a girl, they go nuts. They simply can’t handle it,” he said.

“In Syria and many other countries, it is not normal for a strange woman to smile at you. Those girls who are harassed aren’t necessarily scantily-dressed or drunk. Sometimes it is enough just to be a girl.”

Danish immigration minister Inger Støjberg confessed in late 2016 that “integration in Denmark has failed”, following a damning report on criminality and unemployment in thirty-one increasingly migrant-dominated ghettoes.

“In my opinion it is because we have been too scared to set out clear demands to the people coming to Denmark,” she said.

“We have not dared to say that we expect and demand that they provide for themselves and their families, and that we expect them to adjust to Danish values.”

Indigenous Britons were officially recorded as a minority in the nation’s capital for the first time in 2011, with just 44.9 per cent of Londoners identifying as “White British” in the 2011 census.

White Britons are also under 50 per cent of the population in Leicester, Luton, and Slough, with Manchester University researchers predicting that Birmingham, the UK’s second city, will soon follow suit.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/15/danish-parliament-danes-not-become-minority-denmark/

Huginn ok Muninn
Thursday, February 16th, 2017, 03:52 PM
How about this for a resolution... "We Danes have a tiny little chunk of land for our own people to live on. There is NO room for ANYONE who is not ethnically DANISH here. Anyone promoting non-Germanic immigration is an ENEMY OF THE FOLK and will face immediate death by hanging."

Now that is being real and keeping your balls intact.

SpearBrave
Friday, February 17th, 2017, 01:04 PM
Rafi Ibrahim, a Syrian who has been settled in Denmark for many years, told reporters that the new arrivals find it difficult to control themselves around Western women.

“If they see a girl, they go nuts. They simply can’t handle it,” he said.

“In Syria and many other countries, it is not normal for a strange woman to smile at you. Those girls who are harassed aren’t necessarily scantily-dressed or drunk. Sometimes it is enough just to be a girl.”


This coming from a Syrian,

If ever there was reason to fight it is for our women. This Syrian is saying that our women can't even smile. I don't know about the rest of the men here, but do we really want to be in a place were our women can't even smile. The one very thing that is the most beautiful about our women is their smiles and the way it lights up everything around them. Those smiles are worth fighting for with everything we have.

LordLoki
Friday, February 17th, 2017, 07:06 PM
This is wonderful at the very least to see European governments at least have some self-awareness as an identity as national identities as a whole are taboo at least in Western media.

I do have concern though that especially in Netherlands and in this case as well "Danish" only means Danish-speaking or assimilated. Geert Wilders after all is only have Germanic but fully assimilated.

But look how he's treated in media: "Nazi" or "white supremacist".

Chlodovech
Friday, February 17th, 2017, 11:01 PM
This policy is destined to fail, it's a cosmetical operation to help Danes feel less uncomfortable about becoming a minority in their own country. And before the policy officially fails, migrants will be simply spread out across the countryside upon arrival, which is already the case in my country - and it will lead to migrant only villages eventually.

And you can bet the government is not going to check whether someone has Danish ancestry, maybe they'll won't even go beyond a nationality check, which seems actually likely to me. It makes the govt's statistics and reports look nicer - and the leftwing media will use these statistics to their benefit. Yet in reality things only get worse.

Nachtengel
Wednesday, May 24th, 2017, 08:09 PM
While to narrow minds this might sound like a bad thing, it’s not even close to making up for all the tasty kebabs and shawormas the Danish infidels get to enjoy in return.

NationalEconomicsEditorial:

A recent study conducted by Denmark’s Ministry of Finance concluded that in 2014, immigrants and their descendants cost Danish taxpayers at net loss of 28 billion Crowns per year.

Furthermore, when Western immigrants were removed from the equation, the net cost rose to 33kr billion.

Compare this to tax receipts from ethnic Danes, who contributed a surplus of 56kr billion in 2014.

https://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Denmark-Immigrants-Study-618x282.png

Original chart, in Danish

The report shows conclusively that immigration has been an economic disaster for Denmark.

In short: 59% of the tax surplus collected from native Danes is spent on ethnic minorities, who are a massive drain on the system.

This would be roughly equivalent to America’s federal government spending $2.1 trillion per year on immigrants—a number so large it defies all logic and reason.

It only defies logic and reason if you’ve never eaten some of their tasty meat on a stick. If you had, you would’ve known that it’s worth more than all your silly tax money combined. Really, you owe them for saving you from a diet of stale bread, rotten fish and moose semen.

Such shocking findings are often greeted with denial. Is the study legitimate? How is this possible?

First, the study was conducted internally by Denmark’s own finance department, in order to see exactly where Danish taxes were being spent. Furthermore, the methodology is explicit, and the data transparent.

The study is good.

Being good is no excuse for racism. If the truth is hate, then it must be suppressed!

Consider that ethnic minorities, who are by definition immigrants to Denmark, represent 84% of all welfare recipients, as of 2016.

Denmark also spends inordinate sums on crime committed by immigrants—8 of the 9 ethnic groups most represented in Danish prisons are non-Western immigrant groups, specifically Islamic immigrants.

In fact, non-ethnic Danes are 2-3 times more likely to commit crimes than Danes, and if their crime profile is anything like that of immigrants in Sweden, then it is likely that the crimes they commit are also generally more serious in nature.

Even if true, these are all just lies and racist propaganda.

Likewise, healthcare costs for immigrants groups are proving significant. For example, 40% of patients in Denmark’s largest mental health hospital have immigrant backgrounds.

Why might this be? Because of the prevalence of consanguineous marriages among Islamic immigrants, which greatly increases the risk of mental health problems.

In fact, when accounting for population, Muslim immigrants to Denmark are over-represented in mental health facilities by 1,300%

THAT’S BECAUSE YOU’RE DRIVING THEM MAD WITH RACISM AND HATRED! IT’S YOUR FAULT YOU FUCKING NAZIS!

Regardless of these ancillary statistics, the takeaway point is that non-Western immigration has not benefited Denmark economically, nor has immigration benefited Germany—despite what open-borders advocates claim.

These Nazis just can’t stop with their naziing, can they? I already explained that the food they bring more than makes up for spending your tax money, gang-raping your children, burning your car, stealing your phone and anything else you can think of. Hatred has blinded you beyond hope…
https://www.dailystormer.com/non-western-immigrants-consume-59-of-denmarks-tax-revenue/

Nachtengel
Sunday, July 16th, 2017, 09:48 PM
The Danish Minister for Development Co-operation, Ulla Tornaes, said Copenhagen would contribute $14 million for a programme to stop African mothers having too many babies. She singled out Africa, because of the continent's explosive population growth.

LONDON
Denmark has pledged more funds for developing nations, to limit Africa’s population growth and to “limit the migration pressure on Europe”, the BBC reported. Tornaes argued that access to contraception was considered a foreign and security policy priority for the Danish government.

Speaking at a conference in London on Tuesday, Tornaes said unwanted pregnancies had “enormous” human and social costs in poor nations. The minister said this “also has large social costs, where many countries’ development step is limited by high population growth”.

According to Tornaes some 225 million women in poverty-stricken countries do not have access to birth control. “Unwanted pregnancies have enormous human costs in developing countries – from very young women who must give up their basic education, maternal mortality.”

“If the population growth in Africa continues as now, the African population will double from 1.2 billion people to 2.5 billion people by 2050,” Tornaes reminded her audience.

“Part of the solution to reducing migratory pressures on Europe is to reduce the very high population growth in many African countries.”

In January 2016, the Danish parliament backed a controversial proposal to confiscate asylum seekers’ valuables to pay for their living costs. The decision was criticised by the UN.

Similar remarks recently by French president Emmanuel Macron about Africa’s high birthrate were met with outrage and indignation.

It comes just a month after the Dutch government announced a similar measure to finance access to birth control, abortion for women in developing countries.

Lilianne Ploumen, the Netherlands’ minister for foreign trade, wants open access to information on abortion for women who are in receipt of aid from international development groups.


http://freewestmedia.com/2017/07/14/danish-minister-suggests-birth-control-to-stem-african-immigration/

Huginn ok Muninn
Monday, July 17th, 2017, 12:42 AM
To expect Africans to behave like normal humans is a profound fallacy. There is only one way to deal with Africans... withdraw all aid to them. If the civilized world were to cut off its assistance and technology to Africa, they would destroy everything in a matter of a decade or two and go back to being the stone-age subhumans they were born to be. They can't farm or manage a modern civilization, so they would starve and die off by the millions.

Loyalist
Monday, July 17th, 2017, 03:04 PM
To expect Africans to behave like normal humans is a profound fallacy. There is only one way to deal with Africans... withdraw all aid to them. If the civilized world were to cut off its assistance and technology to Africa, they would destroy everything in a matter of a decade or two and go back to being the stone-age subhumans they were born to be. They can't farm or manage a modern civilization, so they would starve and die off by the millions.

There are push-pull factors at work here as well. Terminating aid to Africa will see them migrate to the coasts and attempt the crossing into Europe in even greater numbers than the apocalyptic ones we're seeing now (tens to hundreds of thousands per month). There is real hope of reducing aid payments being wasted on Africa; even mainstream actors are starting to hint that those are contributing to the problem. But the bleeding heart establishment still won't say no to those boats coming across the Mediterranean. We need a two-pronged approach whereby aid is cut and the coast of North Africa is blockaded - maybe sink a few of the ships as well in the hope that the shock-and-awe will dissuade some from attempting the crossing. Unfortunately, however, our mentality is very much reminiscent of The Camp of the Saints.

Bärin
Monday, July 17th, 2017, 08:46 PM
Birth control to stem African immigration? Birth control for Africa wouldn't be bad, but it's not the direct solution to reduce immigration. That's like investing millions in treating symptoms but refusing to tackle the disease itself. Reducing immigration is the (obvious) solution to reducing immigration. Even if all Africans stopped breeding tomorrow, there are still too many of them for Europe to take responsibility for.

But of course saying that isn't PC and "progressive" enough for politicians so they'd rather beat around the bush and continue to ignore the problem.

At some point, Europe will be forced to tackle the issue or become devoid of resources. We'll be nothing but a faint shadow of our history and more similar to former colony territories like Haiti. A slum. :thumbdown

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-p8ai2XkAA9Wbg.jpg:large

SpearBrave
Tuesday, July 18th, 2017, 12:46 AM
Africans like their cousins in the Americas are a primitive species, and their thought processes are those of the hunter/gather and they do not plan for the future and often live hand to mouth. These politicians that think Africans or middle Easterners can replace the European population are ignorant to the fact these peoples do not think like us and are a less developed people in terms of mental ability. This is where one can say multiculturalism is a mental illness and these people should never be in positions of power.

We as the civilized race have to throw off our ideas on what we think is humanity and start taking a more aggressive attitude. The birth control idea is a good for long term planning, but we also have to think of the here and now because doom is knocking on our doorstep. As Bärin points out these creatures will destroy everything we know as life and reduce our lands to third world shitholes. They cannot think in the same ideas and terms that we do and we can never teach them to do so. Our ancestors were once considered "Barbarians" by the Romans and Greeks, perhaps we need to find that Barbarian spirit again.

Sometimes you have to think of culling the heard. ;)

Nachtengel
Monday, November 13th, 2017, 06:27 PM
Ethnic Danes a Minority in Some Urban Districts

In several Danish neighbourhoods, ethnic Danes are the minority.

A study carried out by the online newsletter Ugebrevet A4 shows that more people with an immigrant background than ethnic Danes live in the districts of Odense NØ (postcode 5240), Brøndby Strand (2660) and Brabrand (8220).

Mostly in big cities

The study was based on figures from Statistics Denmark regarding the number of immigrants, refugees and their children.

The report points out that most immigrants live close to big cities such as Copenhagen, Aarhus, Odense and Aalborg.

Ethnic Danes dominate rural areas

On the contrary, almost 100 percent of the citizens living in Anholt and Bagenkop on Langeland are ethnic Danes.

In general, rural areas are scarcely inhabited by residents with immigrant backgrounds, while in the cities, the composition of residents can strikingly vary from neighbourhood to neighbourhood.
http://cphpost.dk/news/ethnic-danes-a-minority-in-some-urban-districts.12137.html


Denmark’s Refugee Integration Has ‘Failed’

Three out of four refugees who came to Denmark in the early 2000s are jobless ten years later — a “deeply frightening” “admission of failure”, government officials said.

A decade’s worth of efforts to integrate refugees into the Danish labour market have failed, a new analysis from the Confederation of Danish Employers (Dansk Arbejdsgiverforening — DA) shows.

Berlingske newspaper crunched the numbers from a DA investigation and found that just one out of every four refugees who came to Denmark between 2000-2003 was employed ten years later.

The head of DA said the Danish government has “truly failed” in its efforts to get refugees working.http://www.thelocal.dk/20150309/denmarks-refugee-integration-efforts-have-failed

Blod og Jord
Tuesday, March 27th, 2018, 08:03 PM
Indigenous Danes are set to become a minority in their own country in less than a century, new projections suggest
According to demographic analysis undertaken by the University of Copenhagen, native Danes will become a minority in their own homeland as a result of low birth rates and the procreation habits of the immigrant population.

Hans Oluf Hansen, the university’s lead demographer, suggests that the country’s first generation immigrant population will increase from 270,000 to 900,000 within 40 years.

Similarly, the native Danish population is predicted to fall from 5,000,000 to 4,300,000 within the same time period.

At present, Denmark’s indigenous population accounts for 86.9% of a population of 5,760,600. The remaining 13.1% is comprised of the 270,000-strong immigrant population, along with almost 5,000,000 of non-native descent, according to 2017 figures by Statistics Denmark.

Most worrying is the type of immigrant population that is set to constitute a majority.

64% of the non-native population is of a non-Western background, with common countries of origin including Turkey, Somalia, Iraq, Pakistan and Thailand. This is the segment of the population with an astronomically high fertility rate.

As we’re well aware, Muslim immigrants in Western countries tend to have fertility rates two or three times the native population.

Denmark’s fertility rate, as of 2015, was 1.69 births per female citizen. This is amongst the lowest in Europe and well below the necessary replacement rate of 2.1.

By contrast, non-Western immigrants have fertility rates averaging between 3 and 4.5 births per female. Additionally, Polish immigrants tend to have more children than the native population.

Immigration has been a hot topic for Denmark’s centre-right coalition government in recent years, who have implemented tough measures to restrict the influx of illegal immigrants since the “migrant crisis” began in 2014.

However, these could be reversed and the demographic crisis intensified if, as looks likely at present, the Social Democrats form a government after the 2019 legislative election.https://www.defendevropa.org/2018/population-replacement/denmark-indigenous-minority/

Æmeric
Tuesday, March 27th, 2018, 08:35 PM
To expect Africans to behave like normal humans is a profound fallacy. There is only one way to deal with Africans... withdraw all aid to them. If the civilized world were to cut off its assistance and technology to Africa, they would destroy everything in a matter of a decade or two and go back to being the stone-age subhumans they were born to be. They can't farm or manage a modern civilization, so they would starve and die off by the millions.

I've been advocating this for a long time. To give an example of the influence of the West on African demographics take Kenya as a typical example. When the British consolidate control of Kenya in the 1890s the estimated population was 1.7 million. When Kenya became independent in 1962 its population was 7.5 million. By the end of 2018 it will have 50 million inhabitants.

The population explosion in Africa started before the "Scramble for Africa". The introduction of Maize, sweet potatoes & peanuts by European traders cause a population expansion even with the crude hoe-farming methods of the time. This accounted for a lot of pre-colonial wars among Africans & the export of their surplus population to the New World & the Islamic realm.