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Nachtengel
Thursday, December 8th, 2016, 11:15 AM
People working in the beauty business (fashion models, commercial models, certain actors), are stereotypically perceived to be superficial, looking good but not being the most intelligent people you'll meet. Sometimes people in the fashion industry advise aspiring models to talk as little as possible and just "look pretty". The world has witnessed some pretty questionable answers during beauty contests and some contestants even embarrassed themselves. Others however seemed to be very educated and smart, or at the very least good learners and well prepared. Some people go so far as to equate working in the beauty business with being borderline prostitutes, aka selling their bodies.

What are your opinions about this?

Women, if given the opportunity, would you consider a profession in the beauty business? Would you consider it a decent and honourable job, or a job just like any other? Why (not)?

The same question could be asked to men. Would you consider such a job as a metrosexual or even gay thing? Is it something you would only do out of necessity, if nothing else was available and you could receive a good pay?

Men, how would you feel about your partner working in such a business? Would it make you jealous or would you accept it as long as she was doing it for professional reasons?

Would you consider working in the industry more honourable if it was a last resort or the money was direly needed (e.g. sick family members, expensive treatments etc.)?

Some food or thought:

The World’s 10 Smartest Supermodels (http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/the-biggest/the-worlds-10-smartest-supermodels/)

7 Supermodels Who Went to Top Colleges (http://www.onlinecollege.org/2009/08/09/7-supermodels-who-went-to-top-colleges/)

News Flash: Models Are Smart (http://www.allure.com/story/news-flash-models-are-smart)

SpearBrave
Thursday, December 8th, 2016, 11:52 AM
Men, how would you feel about your partner working in such a business? Would it make you jealous or would you accept it as long as she was doing it for professional reasons?


When I was younger I dated girl that was in this industry for more than a year. She did mostly catalog type of things for department stores and a shoe/boot company. She was too short and busty for the runway work of "high fashion".

She was very smart in some ways, but also very dependent in others. She did not drive (almost necessary in the US). She had a degree in some form of business management. While she made very good money doing this work she could not seem to face responsibilities of paying basic bills and living expenses.

The problem I seen with her working these type of things is that many of the agents and photographers were very sleazy. Also there were drugs in even at the lower "clean" levels. She never did nude shoots and still the whole thing reeked of sleaze to me. Also as she got bigger contracts on more of country wide scale it seemed to get worse.

As far as jealously goes, I really did not have a problem with it as I knew she was coming home with me and she was faithful in that aspect. She also did not socialize with people in that industry. I broke things off because we were just not a good match, I wanted the wife/homemaker type of girl and she liked to party and did not ever want children. She now works at an insurance company and is still not married and no children.

If I had a daughter I would protest to her working in this industry even at the so called "clean" levels.



The same question could be asked to men. Would you consider such a job as a metrosexual or even gay thing? Is it something you would only do out of necessity, if nothing else was available and you could receive a good pay?


Well, I don't consider myself a good looking man, so no. Besides that I am way too rough around the edges so to speak.

Huginn ok Muninn
Thursday, December 8th, 2016, 12:14 PM
I have actually always suspected that Hollywood, porn, and the fashion industry were all created, in part, to co-opt and ruin the best-looking of our women, with the survivors often marrying Jews, especially in Hollywood. It's just a twisted scheme to steal the hearts and souls of our women, both inside the industry and out, with those dreaming of such a career or following this cavalcade of kitsch adopting the same spurious values.

The Horned God
Thursday, December 8th, 2016, 12:40 PM
Men, how would you feel about your partner working in such a business? Would it make you jealous or would you accept it as long as she was doing it for professional reasons?


I never had a girlfriend in the fashion industry. But I knew a girl who was, I shared a house with her for a few months when I was a student. She seemed to have a good time being a fashion model and to enjoy it. She got to travel to various places in Europe on jobs and the work seemed to be relatively well paid. At least she didn't seem to want for spending money as far as I could see, which was incredible given that except for fashion shows, she only worked one or two days a week, sometimes not even that.

The major problem with being a fashion model is that they can't do it forever. Once they hit 30 the writing is on the wall, or if you are a woman and have a kid, its all over there and then usually.

So it should never be someone's main thing. This girl seems to have done ok anyway. She married a man 15 years older than her and he seems to look after her, they have 2 kids and she doesn't work now.

A lot of fashion models have that option of marrying an older guy with a bit of money, what with being young and beautiful, but they'd have that option anyway even if they didn't choose to be models...

Fashion modelling seems far too precarious a life to recommend to any young girl, that is unless she develops a secondary profession that she can slide right into when the modelling work dries up.


Would you consider such a job as a metrosexual or even gay thing? Is it something you would only do out of necessity, if nothing else was available and you could receive a good pay?

First of all, being a male model wouldn't have been an option for me, I'm far too much of a potato head lol! While I don't think most male models are gay, its not a very manly job either.

Having said that, if the money was the best someone could get (bearing in mind that male models typically only earn a fraction of what female models earn) then it would be a reasonable choice. However the same shelf-life problem applies to male models as to females, its a young persons game and no one is young forever. So no, I wouldn't recommend modelling to anyone as their main career.

Wulfaz
Thursday, December 8th, 2016, 01:33 PM
The main problem with the Haute Couture models that they must look very thin, because they may eat unhealthy few proportion and this in the long run erodate their health and their body too. Moreover they show the picture to the average women what is the followable, hence many, especially teenager girl get anorexia nervosa (when a person eat so few) or bulimia nervosa (when a person eat, after the food go back). These neurotical disorders later can cause that the person with low bodyfat cannot be pregnant, because the body feel thath a person would be in a starvation, hence the body does not engage the pregnancy. It is historical tendency that under war or starvation the women cannot be pregnant, because they feel often the danger. After the war or starvation end, the women more and more often get pregnant that they compensate the lost time.

Well, the cult of the thin body is a tendency in this time, earlier, f.e. in the 19th the women worn corset, because the ideal was the thin waist, hence they cannot breath healthy and the corset could break their bones. Or 100 years ago in the last decades the Chinese Empire, the small foot was fashionable, hence the parents pinched the childrens feet that they will have small foot as adult.



My favourite model and dreamgirl is Caroline Winberg, her body looks like who has starvated one year ago. Interrestingly hear face looks healthy with enough facial fat.

http://celebs-place.com/gallery/caroline-winberg/Caroline_Winberg_Vic.jpg

Schmetterling
Saturday, December 10th, 2016, 11:15 PM
It really depends. The fashion industry as well as acting industry have become difficult for young and naive women. On the surface is all about glamor and fame, however ask most big stars and supermodels and they will confirm they had to "sleep their way up" at some point in their career. Particularly small and insignificant models have to deal with this if they want to get beyond casting, etc. I don't have the measurements to be a model but even if I did, I don't think I would be interested in the industry...