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Nachtengel
Friday, July 8th, 2016, 03:51 AM
Germany: AfD Cucks Hard, Promising to Boot Anti-semitic Lawmaker (http://www.dailystormer.com/germany-afd-cucks-hard-promising-to-boot-anti-semitic-lawmaker/)


The populist Alternative for Germany (AfD) was set to make a move ousting controversial lawmaker Wolfgang Gedeon from the state parliament of Baden-Württemberg. After initial hesitance to penalize Gedeon over his anti-Semitic statements, party spokesman Jörg Meuthen said the AfD would file a motion in court on Tuesday to have him removed from office.


The right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, which is surging in opinion polls, has been split by a row over anti-Semitism prompted by the views of one of its lawmakers.

Thirteen of AfD's lawmakers in a state parliament have formed a new bloc, Alternative for Baden-Wuerttemberg.

The dispute erupted over statements by one legislator, who had suggested the Holocaust was given too much attention.

As other MPs were unable to eject him from the party, they formed their own.

The row has also engulfed the AfD's national leadership. Its Eurosceptic, anti-migrant message has propelled it to third place in opinion polls, behind the two parties in Germany's governing coalition.

Wolfgang Gedeon was one of 23 AfD representatives elected to Baden-Wuerttemberg's state parliament in March, after the party took 15.1% of the vote.

In written comments, he had referred to the Holocaust as "certain misdeeds". He has also suggested Holocaust denial - illegal in Germany - was legitimate.

The leader of the AfD in Baden-Wuerttemberg, Joerg Meuthen, who is also the party's co-leader nationally, had tried to get Mr Gedeon expelled from the AfD's fraction, but failed to get the two-thirds majority of his MPs required.

He and the 12 AfD representatives who had voted with him resigned en masse on Tuesday.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36722818

Nachtengel
Saturday, March 25th, 2017, 02:23 PM
Meet the Face of the AfD in Kiel

The head of the AfD (Alternative für Deutschland, Alternative for Germany) in Kiel is an immigrant from West Africa named Achille Demagbo. That must make heads explode amongst the Gutmenschen in Germany. In the U.S.A. he would be called an “Uncle Tom” or a “traitor to his race”.

Many thanks to Egri Nök for translating this article from the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung:

Mr. Demagbo of the AfD

The head of the AfD party in Kiel deems multiculturalism a failure. Not an unusual opinion for his party. But Mr. Demagbo is from West Africa. How is that compatible?

by Philip Eppelsheim
March 19 2017

[photo caption: Achille Demagbo says, orderliness and discipline have been second nature to him from childhood on.]

[tweets:]

a dark skinned immigrant from Africa is chief of the AfD in Kiel. How is that compatible?
Conservative right and dark-skinned. A contradiction? Visiting the chief of the AfD in Kiel, Achille Demagbo.
Achille Demagbo, AfD KielAchille Demagbo is 36 years old. Born and raised in Benin in West Africa. He has been living in Germany for 13 years now. He came to study. Linguistics. Meanwhile, he became a German citizen, and works as an interpreter. Demagbo is also a founding member and head of the AfD in Kiel. What does a black African want with this party?

Demagbo believes that his political viewpoints have always been part of his personality. “Certain values” have been part of him since childhood, “particularly orderliness and discipline.” His parents both worked as teachers; they worked their way up from the humblest beginnings. They raised Demagbo, his sister, and his three brothers strictly. Very strictly.

Demagbo says he became interested in the humanities when he was still a student, especially philosophy and sociology. “I noticed back then that the German thinkers, the German philosophers, are particularly rational, particularly systematic in presenting their ideas.” Demagbo fell in love “with German thinking”. With Immanuel Kant and also with Friedrich Nietzsche.

Political reality simply had been “pushed to the left”

Speaking of his start in Germany, Demagbo says that people helped him a lot. Teachers, fellow students, even strangers to whom he spoke in the pub to have conversations in German. To learn the language, to come closer to the culture. “I met many people who were very open-minded.” This moulded him in a positive way. He felt like a German; he was glad to belong. “Germany is my second homeland,” says Demagbo. He never had problems with racism here. On the contrary: “Germans are not xenophobic. They admire everyone who comes here, acknowledges German culture, and complies with the norms of society.”

But right from the beginning, he noticed that people in Germany are being misled. The first political information he was given was: “You are a foreigner. Be careful. Everyone to the right of the Social Democrats is against foreigners.” Demagbo says he rapidly noticed that it wasn’t true. He also noticed that “political reality” was simply “being pushed towards left”. Thereby, “a vacuum” is forming, “because a large part of the population does not feel they are being represented anymore.” The opinions of the citizens are not being integrated into the political process anymore. As an example, Demagbo cites German entry to the EU: “contrived somewhere behind the scenes”. He speaks of the achievements “which we have, in Germany, being sacrificed on the political altar in favour of leftist political experiments”. “I am against that. The EU is failing, the euro is failing. And multiculturalism has failed, too.”

http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/03/meet-the-face-of-the-afd-in-kiel/

Catterick
Saturday, March 25th, 2017, 03:47 PM
Achille Demagbo is correct that political predispositions are part of human personalities. It is very pleasing that German civilisation inspires people as far away as Africa. He is correct that good Germans are open minded and not xenophobic, however it does not follow that Germany should become more than a second homeland.

The presence of non-natives to undermine rival narratives can be politically useful as were one or two alt-right gays. Especially on the Jewish question and the privilege narrative. However discourse involving friendly non-whites frequently strays beyond whether a few minorities are to be tolerated, to outright civic nationalism.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, March 25th, 2017, 04:20 PM
Nations are not founded upon ideas, they are defined by the people of a common blood who live there. Even America was seen by its founders as a nation of English, Dutch, and Scots-Irish pioneers. All northwestern European, all conservative protestants. They didn't feel it was necessary to proscribe this in the constitution, though, because they just saw it as such a natural concept that it was not worth mentioning. That was the chink in the armor through which the Jew shot his arrow.

Now, the twisted concept of civic democracy has corrupted every corner of the West. This negro has no place in Germany, but we are told that, because of his "ideas," he is supposed to fit into a German nationalist party. Our forefathers, who were not corrupted by Jewish communist ideas, would have simply told him to go home.

Wulfaz
Saturday, March 25th, 2017, 04:24 PM
It is a large punch to the leftists whos have charged the AfD with nazism. The main problem is that this news maybe not go till the leftists.

Catterick
Saturday, March 25th, 2017, 05:53 PM
You are both correct. The task ahead then is creating a narrative that endorses both of you as correct.

However the first time the USA had racial (naturalisation) laws the definition of "White" seemingly resembled the anthropological definition, explicitly including Maghrebi Moslems. Only later did the US right speak of non-assimilable Europeans in an immigration context. In any case to be American is to be Anglo in some way or other although the German blood has proved most dynamic, the Anglo nature of America being implicit. Though the naturalisation laws seem racist today, it was such attachment to a proposition (including Whiteness) rather than a founding stock that undermined America's homogeneity.

Nachtengel
Thursday, April 6th, 2017, 05:36 PM
Far-right party claims to be one of few 'guarantors of Jewish life' in Germany

The leader of the far-right AfD has defended her party after several anti-Semitic scandals among its members, saying that in fact they are one of the few forces that will guarantee Jewish life in Germany.
President of the World Jewish Congress, Ronald Lauder, said last week that the entire Alternative for Germany (AfD) was a “disgrace for Germany” after several incidents in which AfD members seemingly downplayed the Holocaust, sympathized with Nazis, or suggested that the country should feel less guilty about its Nazi past.

“This party cannot have a place in Germany, I hope that it disappears from the political stage soon,” Lauder said in the interview with Die Welt.

In response to Lauder’s statements, AfD leader Frauke Petry told Die Welt in an interview published on Thursday that a Jewish leader such as himself should recognize the AfD’s importance in the country.

“As a Jewish representative, he should above all realize that the AfD is one of the few political guarantors of Jewish life, also in times of illegal, anti-Semitic migration to Germany,” Petry said.

Petry also used US President Donald Trump as an example for why Lauder should respect her party.

“Ronald Lauder said in the Welt interview about Donald Trump that ‘he was democratically elected, his opponents must accept that’. The AfD meanwhile was democratically elected in 11 German state parliaments,” Petry said.

“Ronald Lauder is certainly democratic enough to recognize this will of the electorate.”

The main incident that Lauder had commented on was when Thuringia AfD branch leader Björn Höcke questioned in January the way Germany reflects on the Nazis, calling the Berlin Holocaust monument a “memorial of shame” and saying that the country should do a “180-degree” turn in how it talks about its history.

Höcke also blasted a former German president who famously called for all Germans to remember the country’s historic responsibility for the Nazis’ atrocities, saying the leader had made a “speech against his own people”.

Petry herself has sought to expel Höcke, and party leaders have launched an “exclusion process” against him. She told Die Welt that she therefore did not understand why Lauder would characterize her entire party by one politician’s statements.

“Since Lauder surely knows about the party’s exclusion process, I do not understand how he can find the AfD jointly liable for these kind of remarks,” Petry stated.

But Höcke’s comments were not the first time the AfD had been accused of anti-Semitism or Nazi sympathizing. In February the party said it was investigating a regional chairwoman in Bavaria for circulating a photo of Adolf Hitler with the caption “missed since 1945” and “Germany needs you”.

Last year it emerged that a Berlin party representative had in the past posted Facebook messages trivializing Nazi war crimes, while another member in Saarland was found to have sold Nazi paraphernalia at his antiques shop.

And a row over another representative in Baden-Württemberg nearly split the party apart last summer. The now former member, Wolfgang Gedeon, had described the Holocaust in a book as “certain infamous actions”, and called Holocaust deniers dissidents.

Jewish leader Lauder also bashed the AfD for its often harsh attitude towards Islam - the party has called, for example, for a general headscarf ban in public institutions.

“This is in no way helpful for Jews,” Lauder said. “Whoever vilifies another religion cannot be our friend.”

But Petry also fired back against this statement.

“An Islam that does not respect our legal system, or even fights and extols a claim to power as ultimately the only valid religion, that is to me not compatible with a free, democratic constitutional order,” she said, again making a connection between illegal immigration and anti-Semitism.

“That is not defamation, but rather justified criticism of worrisome conditions,” Petry added.
https://www.thelocal.de/20170406/far-right-party-claims-to-be-one-of-few-guarantors-of-jewish-life

Huginn ok Muninn
Friday, April 7th, 2017, 12:38 AM
Maybe this should be their motto...




We stand for the rights of Jews and homos!

Because we are too timid to stand for our own people...




...Sounds just like the alt-lite in America.

Juthunge
Saturday, April 8th, 2017, 12:14 PM
Quite frankly, Petry has to go. She’s trying to reverse to a moderate civic policy now, inscribe “antiracism” in the party programme and make a CDU-lite out of the AfD. This is opposed by about every one else in the party, she failed majorly with her proposal.
It would also alienate any possible voters because the only reason they would vote for the AfD is because they're unlike all the other parties. Otherwise they could simply vote for the CDU.

See also here (http://www.kai-arzheimer.com/state-of-the-german-polls-the-afd-is-down-but-not-out/), a comparatively neutrally worded observation:



State of the German polls: the AfD is down, but not out
What’s the matter with the AfD?
Over the last couple of weeks, the mainstream media (or as the AfD would have it, the “lying press”) have begun to write off the AfD as past its sell-by day (btw, did you realise that we won the battle against populism when Wilders performed slightly less well than expected after some early polling?). There are basically three reasons for that:

New lows of infighting
The Saarland election
A modest slump in the polls

Let’s look at them in turn.

More infighting in the AfD
I cannot remember how often I have used the phrase “fear and loathing” by now, but hey, it still fits. Frauke Petry and her supporters in the national and state-level leadership are still trying to expel regional leader Björn Höcke over his Holocaust comments. Höcke’s own chapter, however, have just selected him as a delegate for the upcoming party conference.
Within her own chapter, Petry is under pressure because she is seen as a) too moderate and b) too obsessed within her own agenda. Just yesterday, the Stern magazine leaked a draft resolution for the party conference which aims at re-defining the AfD as a “moderate”, “civic” outfit that would in principle form coalitions with other parties.
This is particularly funny once you remember that this is exactly what Petry’s predecessor Lucke had in mind before Petry ousted him with a little help from the less-than-moderate elements in the party. And the list goes on …

What about the Saarland election?
In the election for the Saarland state parliament, the AfD won six per cent of the vote, which is a bit of a comedown after the party’s performances in the last round of state elections in 2016. The media read this as an omen for the Bundestagswahl in September, which is nonsense for a number of reasons: First, the AfD tends to do better in the eastern states.
Second, and more importantly, state elections tend to be affected by federal politics, but only up to a point: first and foremost, they are regional affairs.
In the case of the Saarland, this means (amongst many other things) that the regional chapter of the AfD is so closely enmeshed with right-wing extremists that the national leadership tried to disband the chapter only last year.

Yes, you read that right. The move was blocked by the AfD’s highest internal court, which ruled that the evidence against the chapter was insufficient. The national leadership then asked the state party to clean up their act and not to take part in the election. The state party declined that request. Their frontrunner candidate was caught on camera selling Nazi devotionalia in his shop only weeks before the election. And they still got six per cent of the vote in a high turnout election. Not too shabby, I would think.

What do the polls say?
How strong is the AfD? Depends on whom you ask
Repeat after me: “It’s just a single poll” … which is not entirely true any more. The last nine days have brought the same number of new polls (pushing the total to 51), the last of which seem to indicate a further slump of AfD support. Just today, FGW published findings from another Politbarometer survey, which has the AfD at six per cent (that’s the mood, i.e. weighed but not otherwise adjusted data), even worse than the seven per cent Forsa gave them after the Saarland election.
Even INSA, who are always rather bullish on the AfD, reported a mere nine per cent support on Monday. But another Forsa poll as well as an Emnid poll which both gave the AfD nine per cent again went largely unnoticed.
And FGW always generates huge negative outliers (which still might represent public opinion accurately) when it comes to the AfD. My model, which aims at factoring in these things, currently puts them at eight per cent – definitely less support than they had in January, but sufficiently far away from the electoral threshold.
http://www.kai-arzheimer.com/16022604/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/xafd-insa-2017-04-07.png.pagespeed.ic.i8yscDmN8o.png
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In sum, the overall estimates have not changed much over the last two weeks. The two major parties are more or less neck-on-neck, with the CDU/CSU still struggling to re-establish a clear lead. The AfD, Left, and Greens are all well below ten and well above five per cent. The only relevant change is that the FDP has slipped back a bit, which brings them perilously close to the electoral threshold.
http://www.kai-arzheimer.com/16022604/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/xoverall-estimates-2017-04-07.png.pagespeed.ic.Vlt-IQEfpA.png
This, in turn, rules out a “civic” coalition: in 60,000 simulated draws from the posterior, not a single one indicated that on current levels of polling, the FDP and the Christian Democrats could be able to form a government.
Neither is there a red-green majority.
A red-red-green coalition (vastly unpopular with most voters) is a mathematical possibility in 63% of all draws. Unsurprisingly, it becomes much more likely (99%) if the FDP is out.
A “Jamaica” coalition (FDP, Greens, Christian Democrats) is not even mathematically likely (11%), and the odds for a “Trafficlight” coalition (FDP, Greens, SPD) are even worse (2%).
On the other hand, unless the AfD makes a massive recovery, there is no chance that a Grand Coalition would not have a crushing majority. Watch this space

Nachtengel
Thursday, September 14th, 2017, 05:20 PM
German far-right leader accused of illegally hiring Syrian refugee: report

Alice Weidel, a senior member of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), illegally employed a Syrian refugee to do housework at her home in Switzerland, according to a report by Die Zeit on Wednesday.

Weidel, one of the AfD’s two lead candidates in the September 24 general election, reportedly hired an Islamic studies student to help around her house in Biel in 2015 who then passed on the job to a Syrian woman. The Syrian was paid cash-in-hand at a rate of 25 Swiss francs (roughly €22) per hour, which Zeit said is a typical wage in Switzerland. Weidel’s partner is from Switzerland.

Sources close to Weidel told Zeit that the Syrian asylum seeker did not have a written work contract, nor were there invoices for her work.

Though Weidel is widely considered a liberal voice in the right-wing, populist AfD, she has used the refugee crisis to bolster support for her party, harshly criticizing Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open door migration policy and calling for greater controls.

When asked by Zeit about the report, Weidel’s lawyer said he needed time to respond because of the “very complex legal issues in terms of the legitimacy of remuneration rules.”

Her lawyer also told Zeit that Weidel was “friendly” with a Syrian woman, who had stayed at her house as a guest but not as a worker, according to the Süddeutsche Zeitung.

Weidel later wrote on Twitter that the Zeit report was “fake news” and “false.”

“Alice Weidel has at no point hired an asylum seeker, let an asylum seeker work for her, or paid an asylum seeker remuneration,” said a statement posted to her Facebook and Twitter accounts.

Weidel further accused Zeit of not properly explaining that an annual wage of less than 750 Swiss francs (roughly €650) for doing housework would not need to be declared under Swiss law.

Weidel recently came under fire over a leaked email in which she allegedly described immigrants as “aliens” and “non-people.” She also reportedly called for the preservation of “genetic unity” and warned against the “self-defeated dissolution of our culture,” according to Die Welt. Weidel denied that she wrote the email.

The AfD is expected to win seats in the Bundestag later this month as the party is currently polling at between 8 and 11 percent. This would make it the first far-right party to enter the German parliament since World War II.
http://www.politico.eu/article/alice-weidel-afd-germany-election-far-right-leader-accused-of-illegally-hiring-syrian-refugee-report/

Ocko
Thursday, September 14th, 2017, 07:59 PM
Merkel brings in millions of illegals, pays them royally and put them into nice hotels.

She does so criminally as that is against German laws.

Theunissen
Thursday, September 14th, 2017, 08:14 PM
You are both correct. The task ahead then is creating a narrative that endorses both of you as correct.

However the first time the USA had racial (naturalisation) laws the definition of "White" seemingly resembled the anthropological definition, explicitly including Maghrebi Moslems. Only later did the US right speak of non-assimilable Europeans in an immigration context. In any case to be American is to be Anglo in some way or other although the German blood has proved most dynamic, the Anglo nature of America being implicit. Though the naturalisation laws seem racist today, it was such attachment to a proposition (including Whiteness) rather than a founding stock that undermined America's homogeneity.

That's right, founding fathers had a specific type of people in mind and those didn't include those we'd view today as turd-worlders. They knew that demography has serious implications for future policy, to put it mildly.

The AfD sits with a difficult situation. They oppose selling out of German interest and dissolving the German people as a political and cultural entity. Meanwhile they sit with an overwhelming belief in people that "racism is wrong". That's not a conclusion people reached by logic and experience, but one that has been induced with psychology and distortion of history. The argument goes as follows:"Last time we had 'racism' as policy, this lead to gassing-of-six-million-Jews, hence we can't allow any raise of 'racism' again" - No matter what the consequences are. (Should I add that cucks and liberals in South Africa were also frequently, outraged Holocaust believers?).

There are Germans that are staunch Nationalists and either don't believe in the Holocaust or it isn't really relevant for them. They aren't necessarily National Socialists, but they want to preserve the German Nation as political force and with a German character. Within the AfD I think Bjoern Hoecke would represent that kind of people. Others aren't that outspoken, but they're worried about the consequences of mass immigration. Some of those people are even liberals, since the newcomers aren't exactly tolerant, feminist, homophile friends of Jews. Most of those would be considered "conservatives" or "centrist" though and they represent kind of the traditional voters for CDU and SPD. Now on the one hand the AfD has to appeal to the more Nationalist minded people, but has to appeal to those cucked with Holocaust propaganda and Nazi-past as well. Difficult job to do, but it seems they're already through it.

The AfD can't stipulate in their program that Hitler wasn't that bad (which would be the truth) or that the Holocaust is an atrocity lie (that's actually a fact). But they could demand freedom of research and publishing with regards to such matters arguing that jailing Revisionists and suppressing publication is against the dignity of a liberal democracy.

While I deem the AfD as semi-cucks, I think having them in parliament and in public presence will help to break the ice on many issue. It will also annoy those career politicians from the establishment parties, provoking them to say more stupid stuff - further breaking their hegemony they have for decades.

For other European countries the issue wasn't that big, since they got rightist parties for some decades no. There still is leftist hegemony and habitual voting, but it wasn't so easy to blackmail the Dutch, French or Greek people emotionally with some Holocaust tales and Nazi comparisons. Hell, especially in Eastern Europe it's still common sense for a politician to be patriotic regardless whether he is on the left or right. And that's how it should be.

Ocko
Thursday, September 14th, 2017, 09:30 PM
I also think that the AFD is the furthest to the right as Germans are willing to go.

The party right of the AfD, the NPD, is the poster-picture Nazi party who are actually anti-Semitic in the limited way, the laws allow.

The AfD is pro Jewish, and one of their main supporters, Michael Stürzensberger, runs a website in cooperation with Israel. (PI-news.com).

So it is a kosher party. But I think they have potential, as Höcke seems to be the pretty right wing border with links to the NPD.

Germans are slow to change their habits and opinions.

It's a step in the right direction but it's too little, too late.

Ocko
Thursday, September 14th, 2017, 11:07 PM
http://www.werbe-blechschilder.de/bilder/PKA-1015-1042.jpghttp://www.werbe-blechschilder.de/bilder/PKA-1015-1042.jpg

That's the new border sign in Germany

Herr Rentz
Monday, October 8th, 2018, 03:55 PM
Just now heard a report on D-W that "Jews have a place in the AfD..."

They claim it is to fight anti-semitism from Muslims.

AfD concurs and there are Jews in the Party.

I'm not at all certain what I think about this development within the Party.

What are your thoughts or opinions?

Astragoth
Monday, October 8th, 2018, 03:59 PM
Just the obvious. With jews you lose. Jews will do what they always do infiltrate and destroy the host.

Herr Rentz
Monday, October 8th, 2018, 04:21 PM
I concur. I would not want them in the Party and would do everything in my power to keep them out.

But, then, what public perception does this give the Party if they are knowingly excluding Jews based on past experiences?

Should there be some token Jews here and there just to keep up appearances and excluding them from any decision or policy making provisions?

velvet
Monday, October 8th, 2018, 04:50 PM
It's a two-sided sword, but they aim to teach that Jews are an ethno-cultural group (not a religion) and they stand against imported "islamic anti-semitism", ending in rejecting all muslim immigration and political islamic structures.

Plus that they promote an alliance between right-wing conservatism and jewish interests. While this makes the "right-wing" sort of kosher, it works both ways, since anti-semitism is a punishable offence, thus taking away a weapon from the cultural-marxists when "right-wing" AfD stands in for Jewish interests against muslim immigration.

Personally I think it sucks supreme, but ever since lesbian Goldman-Sachs Alice Weidel took over the AfD it should have been clear to anyone that they're at best a stepstone anyway, not a viable solution to anything. They're serving to break up structures, and they're doing that well so far, so the ethno-nationalists would do good in simply letting them continue to do that and not attack them. Specially since there are also ethno-nationalists in the party.

AfD also appears to remember slowly their original party goal against EU and Euro, a topic that was overwhelmed by the "rapefugee crisis", but now returns. It's equally important as immigration, or even more so, since the EU's goal is the dissolution of nations and the Euro wrecks havoc across Europe.

These are vital topics which must be put back into public discussion, and AfD is doing that and has the ability to do it since they're in parliament. Whether one likes it or not, they're the only voice against all the insanity, and for as long as they remain the only heard voice, they'll have my support. They're doing the groundwork for a national consciousness, on which ethno-nationalism can then build.


Abramovych behauptete, dass das Judentum eine „ethno-kulturelle Gemeinschaft“, sei. Das Bewusstsein darüber sei aber in Deutschland „weitgehend“ abhandengekommen. Das sei mit ein Grund dafür, „dass eine gewisse Affinität des Judentums in Europa zu rechtskonservativen Parteien“ bestehe. Religiöse Aspekte thematisierten die Gründungsmitglieder nicht. Vielleicht gibt es sie gar nicht.

„Israel und die AfD in der Presse einseitig dargestellt“

Auch ihre Satzung wollte die Gruppe nicht öffentlich zugänglich machen – einzig eine zweiseitige „Grundsatzerklärung“ war einzusehen. Demnach sehe man in dem Wunsch der AfD, Deutschland zu „einer selbstbewusste Nation“ zu machen, „durchaus keinen Widerspruch zu jüdischen Interessen“. Eine „Allianz der Rechtskonservativen in Europa mit dem Judentum“ liege sogar äußert nahe.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article181798440/Neue-Gruppierung-Juden-in-der-AfD-Partei-spricht-von-historischer-Bedeutung.html

Aelfgar
Monday, October 8th, 2018, 09:41 PM
The way to stop a political party from being destroyed by 'entryism' is to have certain fundamental policies or principles in the constitution which are either unchangeable or can only be changed by a 2/3 majority vote of members. For example: "Immigrants to Germany must be from countries which have a European first language."

Leliana
Monday, October 8th, 2018, 10:06 PM
There's an opposition within AfD against such a group, but again, we are a party with ~31.000 members, there are different plattforms, 'wings' and such. People can organize groups, whatever. That Jewish group starts with around 25- to 40 members. It doesn't matter that much. Better than Muslims. Beatrix von Storch received strong rejection for her BS idea...

velvet
Tuesday, October 9th, 2018, 12:46 AM
Better than Muslims. Beatrix von Storch received strong rejection for her BS idea...

This stuff, like the retarded meeting with the Rabbi a while ago too, is panick-overreaction to the accusations of the left. They already betrayed themselves by not kicking out the Muslim convert (which still should be done, imho), the Jewish group is another one (although 'strategically' it has at least some use). BvS needs to be put under control. Seriously. She's so often way over the mark just to "prove" just how civic and "non-racist" the AfD is that she betrays the followers of her party. I think she's also the most vocal about kicking out Höcke and was the most outraged about Poggenburg.

But she needs to understand that if her wish comes true, Höcke alone would take 10 of 17% with him, at least. Specially the eastern Germans vote for the ethno-nationalism within AfD, not the AfD for its freak anti-wind-craft pro nuke power stance or because they are so "tolerant" that they even accept Muslims.

If you want to get rid of the nationalists, election campaign spot of Hessen will do the job. It's proof that some in the leadership of AfD dont get at all why people vote for them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ONj1lR1pM

Uwe Jens Lornsen
Thursday, October 11th, 2018, 11:19 AM
People , who want to focus solely on some distant "Jews" should vote NPD .

There are no "Jews" in Germany , compared to Hungary , Poland , West-Russia between 1900 and 1930 .


I have no problems with Jews in a politifal party .
The self-destruction will come anyway , as time goes by ;
similar to all these other parties .

The only parties , who have raising acknoledgement , are
The Left , Greens and AfD .

There will be no surrender , especially in the Western part of Germany .

AfD is far too short on agreement , that it will only keep its votes in future ;
no victory in sight !

Herr Rentz
Thursday, October 11th, 2018, 02:51 PM
The NPD is a lost cause. They have never had enough support to win even one seat in the Bundestag and only a smattering of seats in any State government. I agree with their platform, though it is a wasted vote at this point. AfD is the more logical choice for keeping more Muslims out of the country and deporting illegals.

As an American citizen, I contributed to the NPD for several years thinking they might just have a chance in gaining a couple of seats, but that never materialized and their support has decreased every year since 2005.