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Saturday, April 2nd, 2016, 01:24 AM
Skrælingjar beware...

The ancient chronicles told of a larger-than-life Viking warrior with a shock of red hair, banished from his home for killing another man, who sailed with hundreds of followers to an icy island in the sea. And they told of his son, who set out only a few years later to an even more distant place he knew as “Vinland,” but which today’s historians believe were the eastern coasts of modern day Canada and the United States.

The Icelandic Sagas are thrilling narratives, full of swashbuckling exploration, epic feuds, dazzling romances and poignant betrayals. Still, they are only stories, told hundreds of years after the fact by poets with a penchant for embellishment. To date, the sagas have only led archaeologists to one actual, verified Norse historical site in the New World — the 1000-year-old seaside settlement L’Anse aux Meadows on the northernmost tip of Newfoundland.

It would take 55 years and a view from space to track down a possible second one.

The new archaeological find, announced Thursday, offers tantalizing evidence of a Viking presence 300 miles from the only place in Canada they’d ever been seen before.

It doesn’t look like much — a fire-cracked stone and some mangled scraps of iron unearthed from a muddy patch of ground called Point Rosee. But lead archaeologist Sarah Parcak says the site is almost certainly only one of two things:

“Either it’s … an entirely new culture that looks exactly like the Norse and we don’t know what it is,” she told The Washington Post in a phone interview. “Or it’s the westernmost Norse site that’s ever been discovered.”
And although her team is still seeking definitive evidence — further excavations and analysis are required to prove that the site didn’t come from some other community — Parcak is feeling more and more optimistic that the latter possibility is the right one.

If her faith is borne out, researchers say that the discovery, which is the subject of a 2-hour documentary that will air on PBS next week, has the potential to rewrite the history of the Vikings in North America. It might confirm the belief that the Norse presence here was fleeting — just another short-lived expedition by a seafaring society. Or it could touch off a wave of discoveries of other Norse settlements in the region, proving that the Vikings strayed farther and stayed longer in the New World than anyone realized.

“With just one site, it’s easy to explain it away,” Parcak said, noting that the search for Viking settlements since L’Anse aux Meadows was discovered in 1960 has been so fruitless that some archaeologists concluded there might not be anything more to be found. (Continues)

Source (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/01/an-ancient-site-spotted-from-space-could-rewrite-the-history-of-vikings-in-north-america/)

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, April 2nd, 2016, 02:36 AM
Article in the Daily Mail:


Lots of pictures here!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/01/12/32BD0A9900000578-3518739-New_evidence_of_a_Viking_settlement_in_N orth_America_has_been_un-a-3_1459510306771.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/01/10/32BB811100000578-3518739-The_researchers_discovered_the_site_by_l ooking_for_unusual_patte-a-7_1459503068487.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/04/01/15/32BE004100000578-3518739-Researchers_found_pieces_of_slag_in_a_he art_that_they_believe_wa-a-46_1459521038590.jpg

The documentary, "Vikings Uncovered," will be aired on BBC One in the UK at 8.30pm (BST) Monday 4 April and will be streamed online on PBS at 3.30pm ET.

Saturday, April 2nd, 2016, 03:31 AM
Skrælingjar beware...

Source (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/01/an-ancient-site-spotted-from-space-could-rewrite-the-history-of-vikings-in-north-america/)

The viking sagas have more stories of sailing south-west 6 days from Iceland which is fairly sure America.

There are reports of white tribes, for ex. by Samuel de Champlain, who sailed down the St. Lorenz, He reported to have met white people most likely close to the 5 Great Lakes.

The Inka spoke a language called Runa Simi, many words are IE related. Their God Wiracocha, was a white man. They kept the blood line clean. In their area is a white tribe still living.

There are runic inscriptions all over the US. (Claimed to be modern but some a most likely not. The Smithonian plays an obscure role in hiding white settlement before Columbus)

Florida had a white tribe, there are reports in the Viking Sagas about it.

That the Viking sagas are untrustworthy is just another statement based on nothing. Erik The Red was reported to have sailed there and his son Leif as well. Their settlements were found. So whats untrustworthy about the Sagas?

Decades ago there was a Norse student travelling in Canada/ north US and was amazed that many placename were almost pure old Norse. He wrote a dozen volumes about the comparance of the indian languages and old Norse.

Why is that not in the history books?

Thursday, April 7th, 2016, 01:54 PM
I think the Oak Island money pit is most likely a longship went vertically down one of the sinkholes common there, if you think about the wooden platforms it makes sense.

Thursday, April 7th, 2016, 06:29 PM
It was an interesting tv programme though pretty much the usual dumbing down tv dramatics and staging (but that's entertainment and if it gets a young person engaged in archaeology who am I to quibble?). It seems to me self-evident that the Vikings sailed right down the eastern seaboard of the continent and perhaps beyond. As a young man (and a lay-person archaeologically speaking) it took me a while to realise just how much we don't know and how much still remains under the sod awaiting discovery. Science will continue to play a part in future revelations I'm sure.

Thursday, April 7th, 2016, 06:48 PM
Western most my butt, what about the Heavener Runestone in Heavener, Oklahoma? ;)