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Xanados
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 11:35 PM
I have been on Asatru forums for a long time and the majority agree that Nazism is a distortion of Asatru's real meaning. Why all the race hate? Can't you just be happy that you are all European brothers?

Granraude
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 11:43 PM
Not everyone here are NS or even ┼satru.
Still, ┼satru is a folkish belief, that means it is for the Germanic people to practice.

I bet that the ┼satruers you've encountered are the type who openly accepts latinos and asians? A bit weird being a folkish belief, is it not?

Unity Mitford
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 11:46 PM
What are you talking about? By no means is everyone in this forum a 'Nazi', nor are we all Asatru :P

I don't find Skadi to be hateful... If you do, you're in the wrong place.

SaxonPagan
Friday, March 2nd, 2012, 11:52 PM
Oh dear, every so often there's one that slips through :oanieyes

Edie
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:09 AM
Why all the race hate?

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I always hated sports day, and ever since I got caught gluing the egg to the spoon I've harboured a grudge against races in particular.

Jana
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:17 AM
I don't hate non-whites, on a day-to-day basis I generally prefer to pretend like they don't exist altogether.

velvet
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:24 AM
I have been on Asatru forums for a long time and the majority agree that Nazism is a distortion of Asatru's real meaning. Why all the race hate? Can't you just be happy that you are all European brothers?

Asatru is a folkish faith. It's not universal. It's not for other races. It's about our folk, we are Odin's folk. We Germanics carry Odin's blood.

A folkish faith builds communities on racial, folkish loyalty. The blood is the be-all and end-all, it must be protected by all means. The lands where we live and have lived for thousands of years is the land given to us by our gods, it must be protected by all means. It is Blood and Soil.

National Socialism is a folkish policy, providing protection of the nation against internationalisation and globalisation, against mass immigration and other dangers coming with globalisation, like banksters, wage dumping, GMO and what not. National Socialism is Blood and Soil translated into policies.

It has nothing to do with "hate", but everything with love for the own folk, and protecting the folk and the folk body from onslaughts against its integrity, genocide through mass immigration and other dangers. In fact, those who invade our countries are those who hate.


If you dont understand that Asatru is folkish, then you havent understood Asatru. Only Odin's children can be Asatruar. And only Germanics are Odin's children. It's really simple.

SaxonPagan
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:26 AM
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I always hated sports day, and ever since I got caught gluing the egg to the spoon I've harboured a grudge against races in particular.

Hmm, .. how devious! :dlook

That said, I can remember cheating in the sack race at junior school by cutting a hole in the bottom of the sack ;) I only came second though, having been beaten by a Muslim girl who claimed to have her legs inside a sack under her Burkha. I know damn well she didn't but no-one was allowed to check for fear of offending her religion :mad

I think this is what made me a race-hater, Edie, although I did enjoy the sprint where we lined up 8 niggers on the starting grid and 8 of us stood behind them (one in each lane) armed with air rifles :thumbup Oh boy, you should have seen those jungle bunnies run :lmfao: and one of them covered the 100 metres inside 6 seconds :-O

Uberman
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:29 AM
I think you've stumbled upon the wrong forum. This forum is more about the preservation of germanic genes and culture, and about sharing our mutual interest in the Germainc family of cultures.

I personally am a capitalistic libertarian, and am not racist. But I don't mind these people being here. And they don't mind people like me on the forum, because we can all appreciate the fact that we have a place where we can discuss these things, which are considered inappropriate elsewhere. After all, according to Tacitus, speaking openly is a Germanic trait. I don't mind anybody sharing their opinion, as long as they are sincere, and don't take offense if I give my honest opinion as well.

What I don't like is people who try to shut down a discussion or argument because somebody's position is offensive to them.

If you truely are not racist, then you must believe that the world benefits from a variety of cultures. Therefore, you should be alarmed at the rapid destruction of the Germanic cultures around the world, and you should support our cause.

In other countries where birth rates are low, such as Japan or China, these cultures aren't truely in danger of extinction because they have retained a great degree of cultural homogenaety, which will enable them to maintain their cultures regardless of the size of their populations. In the Germanic countries, on the other hand, every one of our countries is threatened with massive influxes of immigrants, and we can see our cultures degrading by the year. And since it is our homelands that are threatened by the influence of immigrants, we have no place to go to protect our cultures. Once our cultures cease to exist as uniquily Gremanic in our own lands, they will be gone forever.

Will anybody care, when our cultures are gone? Not the "Real" Racists who think that these developments are OK, and who believe that we have not had a positive impact on the world while we existed.

Huginn ok Muninn
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:33 AM
I have been on Asatru forums for a long time and the majority agree that Nazism is a distortion of Asatru's real meaning. Why all the race hate? Can't you just be happy that you are all European brothers?

First of all, when you signed up here, you should have read the rules and understood the forum's orientation. We are not a pan-European or "Nazi" forum. We are Germanics who wish to protect and preserve our people. The attitude from which you parrot the accusation of "hate" is directly from those who wish to defame any Germanic who cares about his people. It is ADL slander, and it is not welcome here.

If, indeed, you believe "hate" is a bad thing, there is no scarcity of evidence that it is indeed we who are the hated and our enemies who are the haters. They seek to dismantle our nations through immigration and silence any objection through the sort of slander you mindlessly repeated in your ill-considered and ill-conceived post above.

This is a resource for our people to learn about themselves, their culture, their past, and it is most certainly also a place to become educated about what threatens our future. If you are sincere about these goals, I urge you to read some of the articles and discussions here. Perhaps you need a timeout to better do that.

Edie
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:39 AM
This forum is more about the preservation of germanic genes...

Which is a fundamentally racist thing to be about. If it's about genetic preservation, then it's about identifying racial and ethnic differences and excluding great swathes of people based on them. Preservationism is racist.

Ocko
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 12:41 AM
Just think about The word 'racist' to be a scare word used to scare you to give up your race and let it be destroyed.

I am a racist and I am proudly so.

MCP3
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 01:07 AM
Just think about The word 'racist' to be a scare word used to scare you to give up your race and let it be destroyed.

I am a racist and I am proudly so.

I prefer the denial-form as exercised by David Duke: "I am NOT a White supremacist, I am a White-Human-Rights advocate."

Translate White to Germanic, then you have the Skadi credo as lined out in this video.
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Securing Freedom, Social Justice and the Germanic Leitkultur

Gewitterwolke
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 01:59 AM
I personally don't but I don't see why it's a bad thing if someone does. Nazism and killing Jews and Slavs are not one in the same. That's the lie we've been told over and over again and those of lesser intellect have startd to believe. You can support Nazism and not be in favor of genocide. Many of those among us who subscribe to Nazism probably want to see no harm done to anyone, including races they deem inferior to their own.

Ekonhammer
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 03:22 AM
The NS struggle was both a beautiful and tragic one. It was a struggle of an entire nation to raise itself up out of a condition of utter defeat and humiliation as a result of the unjust terms of the Versailles dictates. Germany put down its weapons while still standing well within enemy territory and expected a fair peace. Rape and robery were her rewards.

European borders today still reflect these injusticies. No better example of this is my own sacred homeland of Hungary and Siebenburgen, which was robbed of TWO THIRDS of its ancient territory.

Many of us older members had immediate family members who lived and struggled through those times, the horrific inflation and devaluation of human labor . . . You cannot know about these times if U were not there.

Germany is a defeated country, without any semblence of sovereignty. If U think that whole NS movement came about solely to commit mass murder, U R mistaken. No organization in Human History outdoes the US Airforce for murder of defenseless civilians.

Stop using a part of my countries history as the measuring stick for all evil.

Gugnir
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 04:36 AM
I tried to talk to him in Skype... he talked for a while, then suddenly showed as not having shared his contact details with me, so presumably he deleted me, totally out of the blue. Either it was an accident (which I would like to assume) or he's quite an odd fellow.

-Gugnir

The Hungry Hun
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 08:17 AM
Can't you just be happy that you are all European brothers?

To this I'd say: Of course we're glad to be European. Trouble is the forced demographic mix, now really throughout the society, whether we like it or not. Its the whites (worldwide) whom must endure it, prop (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058229/Obama-playing-golf-20-minutes-Navy-SEAL-Osama-Bin-Laden-mission.html) it up while smiling. I think NS people are aware of this and tired of it.

:prussian2 PS: NS and Asatru are of Germanic origins. Deal with it. Don't pander to the media's list of things to avoid and be scared of. Being scared of your race and its traditions is one of the silliest mistakes people deliberately make today :thumbdown

velvet
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 05:11 PM
:prussian2 PS: NS and Asatru are of Germanic origins. Deal with it. Don't pander to the media's list of things to avoid and be scared of. Being scared of your race and its traditions is one of the silliest mistakes people deliberately make today :thumbdown


This mistake is a designed one:

"We won this war with atrocity propaganda...and now we will start more than ever! We will continue this atrocity propaganda, we will increase it until nobody will accept one good word from the Germans anymore, until everything is destroyed which might have upheld them sympathies in other countries, and until they will be so confused that they don┤t know what to do anymore. When this is reached, when they begin to pollute their own nest, and this not reluctantly but with hasty willingness to obey the winners, only then the victory is complete. It will never be definite. The reeducation demands thorough, steadfast nurture like English lawn. Only one moment of inattention and the weed will break through, this ineradicable weed of historic truth."
~ Sefton Delmer, former British chief propagandist after the capitulation in 1945 to the German expert on international law Prof. Grimm.

Sigyn
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 05:22 PM
Asatru (or whatever you want to call the religion of our ancestors) is indeed for Germanics and by Germanics. The heathen religions were never meant for people outside their particular tribe. If you are a heathen, you should stick to the traditions that your own bloodlines once observed.

I always found it absurd when Asians and Latinos and other people with absolutely no connection to the Norse heritage decide to become "Norse heathens".


It was a struggle of an entire nation to raise itself up out of a condition of utter defeat and humiliation as a result of the unjust terms of the Versailles dictates. Germany put down its weapons while still standing well within enemy territory and expected a fair peace.
Indeed. I'm not even NS myself, but it's very understandable how NS gained ground in a Germany that was humiliated by the Allies after the war. Add to that the economic troubles that hit Germany especially hard, and you get a nation that is a breeding ground for radical ideas like NS.


European borders today still reflect these injusticies. No better example of this is my own sacred homeland of Hungary and Siebenburgen, which was robbed of TWO THIRDS of its ancient territory.
Well, Hungary is not really a clear-cut case like Germany. There's a good reason why they lost all their lands where Hungarians were not the ethnic majority.

velvet
Saturday, March 3rd, 2012, 06:00 PM
Indeed. I'm not even NS myself, but it's very understandable how NS gained ground in a Germany that was humiliated by the Allies after the war. Add to that the economic troubles that hit Germany especially hard, and you get a nation that is a breeding ground for radical ideas like NS.

NS is by far not only that "extreme counter reaction to the injustices of the Versaille Treaty" as that it is displayed, and to which it is reduced in retrospective.

It carries a vision for a future, an alternative future to what we got. NS was the brake for the train that now drives with full speed into the abyss of our exinction and aimed not only to slow or stop that development but also to build an entirely alternative route with a different goal. NS fundamentally questioned the value system on which current humanity is built. And because it does provide a viable alternative, it is so much more attacked, smeared and demonised. Communism never questioned fundamentally the accepted notion of a universal humanity, that's why the communist blocs, while being a nuisance, never really harmed the masterplan for a One World Government and New World Order. In fact I think that it may be even part of that plan (remember that the communist revolution in Russia was financed by WallStreet from the very start), the antagonism forced people on both sides into "loyalties" and to accept their new "identities" (or rather lack thereof), while learning first and foremost to forget who and what they are. The "West" has quite a head start in be(com)ing unrooted "world citizens", but the ex-communists are close behind, while we're still played out against each other to keep our attention on all things trivial and trash on the way the last remnants of cultural identity. But dont worry, the messiah (Obama, of the new Eurasian-Negroid masterrace) for the New World Order is already there to save us all and unify humanity in global enslavement.... :~(

Deorwine
Wednesday, April 11th, 2012, 06:08 AM
I am really new here, but here is my two cents...

I am an American and have grown up with much of the negative emphasis on Germanic thought and culture. I am also Odinist/Astruar/Heathen whatever...

I am not a Nazi, I am not racially hatefull, nor do I think any one race is better than the others. What the Forn Sed(the ancient customs) is about for me is roots. That is why I joined this board is to explore and learn about and from my roots. Loving where you come from doesn't mean that you dislike others based on their ancestry.

Hans Ole Olsen
Wednesday, April 25th, 2012, 10:09 PM
I am really new here, but here is my two cents...

I am an American and have grown up with much of the negative emphasis on Germanic thought and culture. I am also Odinist/Astruar/Heathen whatever...

I am not a Nazi, I am not racially hatefull, nor do I think any one race is better than the others. What the Forn Sed(the ancient customs) is about for me is roots. That is why I joined this board is to explore and learn about and from my roots. Loving where you come from doesn't mean that you dislike others based on their ancestry.

Often I feel, people use the term "you people" as liberally as well, liberals. Humans are too unique to think of us this way. Whenever you ask the question "Why do you people _______" you're most certainly not going to get the answer you want. Germanic Preservation is an ideal, that any Germanic can follow. Some people merely want to preserve Germanic culture, others want to degrade the culture of others. Life is a bit of a spectrum that way. I'm sure there are some multiculturalists that realize it's a pipe dream without discrimination to the nth degree, but others do not.

What one must realize is that believing in a unifying idea does not preclude one from believing or not believing in other related ideas, philosophy is a web not a hierarchy. It's the vice of false presumption that leads many into conflict, where none was sought.

I'm also new, and this is merely my two cents. Of course, I have no right to speak for everyone. :P

SaxonPagan
Thursday, April 26th, 2012, 12:37 AM
My attitude towards this thread has not changed since my earlier skittish comments in posts 4 and 8.

The fact that the member who lit the touch paper on March 2nd has not been back to post any follow-up comments merely supports my refusal to take it seriously and his use of language such as 'you people' is almost a declaration in itself that he is not 'one of us'.

I think anyone taking the time to read a few threads on Skadi would know why a certain percentage of us are NS. They are then free to disagree, but I for one will not indulge in a public self-justification exercise with trolls such as this :thumbdown

hyidi
Thursday, April 26th, 2012, 04:34 AM
I am and I am proud to say It.

Why do people think we are racist?

White people fought along side non-whites during WWII, whites did not mind or hate non-whites ( except for a certain few- Churchill) nothingness, whites had no problem with other cultures and people of different races before 1950's/1960's.... (NS Germany wanted all nations to be like Germany,full of their own people and culture plus NS Germany were allied to a nonwhite nation Japan) until something forced whites and our homeland to be mass Invaded by foreign peoples. What do you expect white people to do? have a warm welcome by letting millions of mass migrants trample our lands?
Before 1950's, white nations had little non-white migrations and that Is Ok, there was no harm & whites got along with these non-white peoples. It's when white countries are at risk by over taken & over flooded by non-whites which causes big problems for white people. White people have the right to protect what Is there's, just like any other race has done centuries ago.

If Japan/ china or the middle-east were to be mass flooded with whites,would you think they would be happy and welcoming?

There is a small amount of whites etc.. living In Asian countries today but the Asians don't care because there Is no risk of an Invasion...and this how whites use to be like, until we were force into multiculturalism death societies.

Ocko
Thursday, April 26th, 2012, 05:04 AM
If the meaning of non-Hating other Races means I have to treat every race 'equal' then I see it as wrong.

Races obviously have relations to each other like Individuals. As I do not treat every Individual the same so I do not treat other races the same.

In their destructive energy for the Germanic race Jews and Blacks stick out. I have no beef with Japanese people infact I get along with them pretty well.

I think it is justified to treat certain races as enemies and other in more friendly way.

That's just normal.

blackoak
Thursday, April 26th, 2012, 07:11 AM
I have been on Asatru forums for a long time and the majority agree that Nazism is a distortion of Asatru's real meaning. Why all the race hate? Can't you just be happy that you are all European brothers?

Why does it matter if we are happy European brothers now if in the future there are no European brothers to confide in?

I am interested in what you believe Asatru's real meaning is. What is it and who is this majority that you speak of?

I was only interested in heathenism when I joined Skadi, so I had similar questions and skepticism about the politics and rhetoric on these forums. I think I can easily break it down for you.

Multiculturalism is a cultural death machine. It is done systematically to destroy nations and peoples. In America and Europe it is used to break up and weaken white populations. If you refuse to believe that it is done by people with that specific intent, then it does not matter, multiculturalism is still an enemy to your folk.

Let me explain, look outside... You are being invaded by non-indigenous populations. It is everywhere. These people have values and beliefs that are not compatible with your culture. In fact, they work against it. And when they breed with your indigenous populations they are putting the offspring in a situation where they have to decide what kind of identity they want to maintain. Be sure that they will feel entitled to the same rights you have. They disrupt your gene pool and bring in alien gods, values, and ideas into your culture and promote a fizzing out of your people by interbreeding. Then you compete for resources and power with them. And this is just very basic laymans terms for this. Im sure other members here can arrange what I said more eloquently and appealing.

As an anthropologist, we say that when two cultures meet there is only "conformity" or "conflict". There really is no option for cooperation.

I do not want to call you out, but I think it comes down to the fact that you don't understand the role that race plays in preservation of our own people. I also think you are afraid of the connotations it carries. By the way, not everyone here is into "nazism" or "ns" or "racial hate."

These ideas take time to get use to, especially since your whole life has been an indoctrination into a culture that is working against you and your folk. The rabbit hole is big... keep reading. This forum is the best resource you will ever find to liberate your self and your folk.

Mrs vonTrep
Thursday, April 26th, 2012, 08:23 AM
OP: WHY aren't YOU supporting NS? That's the question which should be asked imo..

Related:
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?p=1069224#post1069224