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The Hungry Hun
Monday, January 30th, 2012, 04:50 PM
Disclaimer: I don't work for Bethesda Softworks and this is not a big advertisement for their game; I'm just a really, really nerdy person.
So far I've spent 60+ hours playing The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim on my shiny new gaming computer and I wanted to open a thread allowing anyone else with the spare time and energy to take screenshots and share them. I think it calls for its own thread because there's at least something in this game for anyone on this forum to enjoy!
The game takes place in Skyrim; the mountainous Scandinavia-like home of the race known as the Nords in this game's universe. They are attributed to being tough, tall, fair haired men with a very familiar culture to our own; basically representing Germanics in general in the game. The story you'd all find interesting as well. The Nords are in a civil war, one side supporting an ancient multiracial Empire, which is headed by racial others and cares not for the woes of the Nords, the other side are the Stormcloaks, a militant nationalist group of Nord men and women of all social classes and named after its leader Jarl Ulfric Stormcloak which wishes to rid Skyrim of not only the Imperial troops and their sympathizers, but also rid it of non-Nords!
Let me know what you guys think!

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630297845/0EC21DD16903DF17D6FB75ED6F07D6FC24A5B358/
Arngeir the monk explains the ritual in which he inducts me into his order.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630532613/19F3E2B16238B5C5106C0E021E72F35EA140EA5C/

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630299668/8964619A6143BACB56C923F5BE2E68A00CFE9E24/
The ghost of a dead bard sits next to his corpse just after leading me to the book I was looking for.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630301011/D4C8463929351AD0E75A71C5744B0E9C9865624E/
Getting pumped before the Battle of Whiterun

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630302791/4F747835B0930F20C4BA408E0A423DF4A6072F72/
Meeko, the dog I found on the side of some road somewhere and whom I first thought was a hostile pest of a wolf, turned out to be a fun companion on my adventures. Here's him in some barrow obviously enjoying the scenery of a dank crypt!

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630274975/4E9F23BCB09A4020E5FCAC67020F4C716E991BED/
Relaxing outside some god-forsaken cave in the wilderness.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630303812/D089B2AD0E8109CAE4D10BF02B96F4F441A87A5C/
Some wretched Dark Elf came sauntering by me on the road claiming he was joining the Imperial Legion. Shortly after incinerating him with some fire spells, I strung his corpse up in a tree stump and used it for target practice. My bodyguard Lydia stands ready and watching for the guards lol

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630273165/2D0D3864DB5019CCE0C7ED1FFF037F4F28090FA3/
One of the Blue Palace's maids is escorted back to her quarters by a Solitude City guard as she talks about her desires for a golden knight...while I'm wearing gold armor :thumbup

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595833494800747233/A8AFC41F6EA1C4D0403692B13F7B96956409AAB7/
Whiterun after the battle. The preacher stands there on a nice cloudy day praising the Nord god Talos.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936630276740/6AA3756538314CA3BFC36167C593D37AD4B909DE/
Reporting for duty and discussing the war.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936575699356/A7FAE8EB28EAF3BCA40510F2FF8AAD72AE922027/
Really mad my once peaceful excursion into the plains gets me a visit from a stupid dragon.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936575704842/434DED7525AA306F41AB25949A4DC00A27E617DD/
So I killed it.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595834936575703587/02D24D0A1C78DC093414AF73B2A917053A3837D4/
Lydia peers at me seductively as we watch the dragon corpse burn.

Heinrich Harrer
Monday, January 30th, 2012, 05:41 PM
I haven't played the game yet, how did they handle the whole Stormcloaks wanting to get rid of the non-nords issue? Because the last thing I would want to deal with in such a fantasy game with a european/nordic setting would be non-white immigration and being lectured in a PC manner about the evils of racism.

I'm quite skeptical about such topics being injected into games now, as this constant PC indoctrination already made a lot of Hollywood movies unbearable. It looks as if they're now trying to do the same with the games market as gaming got too big.

Ramzpauls video about Skyrim:
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Erlkönig
Monday, January 30th, 2012, 06:37 PM
They touch lightly on the Stormcloaks wanting to get rid of non Nords, their goal is Sovereignty, to drive the multinational Empire out of Skyrim. If you choose to do it, nothing changes apart from local town guards being replaced by Stormcloak soldiers, previous Empire sympathising NPC's remain in the towns. Throughout the entire game nothing you do has a distinguishable effect on the enviroment, making it all feel pretty pointless.

The guy in that video just said' "In real life women did not fight dragons, men fought dragons". What a dork.

The best part of the game is the first few hours until the first dragon fight. The rest gets tedious quite quicky, I would say its overrated. Despite its ugly citizens, Oblivion was more fun and whimsical in how they allowed you to enter alternate planes of existence and have contact with beings abnormal to the game world, it remained intriguing, Skyrim is hours of you running around in Skyrim, the most exciting part was assassinating the Emperor of your enemy faction.

The character creation is also fun.

http://i43.tinypic.com/34zx9gp.jpg

velvet
Monday, January 30th, 2012, 06:40 PM
What does "feminism" have to do with that a guy cant just go to a woman he doesnt know and ask her to strip for him? What a BS, mr ramzpaul :oanieyes


But that aside, the game seems to be rather un-PC, and may well have a PC-undermining effect, since it is on all accounts a valid demand to keep your land that your folk founded and built up. Also the enemy, that multiracial empire that tries to take Skyrim may well turn out to increase awareness towards real life similarities, because the hero fights them to keep Skyrim intact, so gamers will spend hours upon hours defending Skyrim against the imperial, multicult, foreign hordes.

The good thing about fantasy games that are made for long gaming experience is that they usually lack "diplomacy". You simply kill the enemy. When it has a red circle around it, you better kill it because otherwise it will kill you. Us and them has very clear distinctions, and may even help to raise awareness. It would entirely undermine the game experience if an enemy suddenly would ask for "tolerance" for example :D

Ralf
Monday, January 30th, 2012, 06:49 PM
Whilst I haven't yet aligned my character with either side, my learned friend informs me that whilst I may find it more appealing to join the Stormcloaks and fight against "globalization", this is exactly what a sinister third party want you to do, the Dark Elves I believe, setting the two sides against each other and hoping the resultant fragmentation of power will make it easier for their plan of world domination, (or something?).

Now I wonder which real life race the dark elves might represent?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Nambocttr/2012-01-29_00003.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Nambocttr/2012-01-04_00008.jpg

Hersir
Monday, January 30th, 2012, 10:27 PM
I have it, but think I've only played 15 minutes on it. Games are not as fun as before. I got Battlefield 3 too, not much fun either.

I like Starcraft 2 though.

KingOvGermania
Tuesday, January 31st, 2012, 06:26 PM
I have it, but think I've only played 15 minutes on it. Games are not as fun as before. I got Battlefield 3 too, not much fun either.

I like Starcraft 2 though.

Understandable. Most newer video games are derivative and boring, they are made only to sell and appease the crowd, not to make, well, good games
Skyrim looks absolutely amazing, from what I've seen of it. Something I would no doubt get way, way, WAY too into and never come out ;)


I haven't played the game yet, how did they handle the whole Stormcloaks wanting to get rid of the non-nords issue? Because the last thing I would want to deal with in such a fantasy game with a european/nordic setting would be non-white immigration and being lectured in a PC manner about the evils of racism.

I'm quite skeptical about such topics being injected into games now, as this constant PC indoctrination already made a lot of Hollywood movies unbearable. It looks as if they're now trying to do the same with the games market as gaming got too big.


I haven't played it yet, but if it does have some PC anti-racist undertones, I hope I can overlook it (I have gotten good at that, provided it's not TOO in-your-face), and it would be quite odd, since Fantasy is hands down the most Germanic-friendly fiction genre, look at LOTR, for one. The entire genre of fantasy fiction is indeed based on Germanic mythology (LOTR, once again, along with literally countless fantasy works), so it would make NO sense for an epic-fantasy game like Skyrim to have PC undertones, its an oxymoron.
Yes, there are leftist undertones in some fantasy works (ahem, Michael Moorcock), but it is the exception, not the rule, and the same can't be said about other genres of fiction at all.
Remember, I haven't played the game (yet), but i'm basing this on what I know. Yes, the game does have mild PC undertones, but since it's hugely character-driven, I'm sure you can make choices in the game that make it less PC, like playing as a Nord instead of a Dark Elf, etc, so the PC undertones CAN be avoided, unlike some other games and most Hollywood movies where its shoved in your face.

Berlichingen
Tuesday, January 31st, 2012, 08:05 PM
I'm wavering on joining the Stormcloaks, TBH. For one, I'm bugged by the idea of forcibly conquering Whiterun. 90% of the people there have been pretty nice to me. Second, I have a feeling that the Thalmor scumbags are manipulating the Imperials and Stormcloaks into war in order to weaken Skyrim. And shouldn't we deal with all these dragons first?

My character is a Nord who mostly focuses on heavy armor/shields/smiting. I'll get some pictures up when I get back to my gaming PC.

Sybren
Tuesday, January 31st, 2012, 08:30 PM
I have it, but think I've only played 15 minutes on it. Games are not as fun as before. I got Battlefield 3 too, not much fun either.

I like Starcraft 2 though.
Well, at least you gave it a fair chance to immerse yourself in the gameworld ;)

Skyrim was a huge surprise for me. Many games are boring for me too nowadays, but Skyrim never bored me for a moment. Well, maybe the first 15 minutes when i wasn't immersed yet :)

Still, this game takes a lot of time, time i barely have :(

Enorthmar
Monday, August 6th, 2012, 01:45 AM
I haven't tried Skyrim yet, because my laptop doesn't meet the minimum requirements and because I don't have time for gaming these days, but I know it's exactly my kind of game. I did some research on the storyline because I heard about the nationalist faction, and happened to come across the following proclamation by the Dunmer (which is the dark-skinned elven race). Very provocative.


A proclamation of Dunmer supremacy in eastern Skyrim

Dunmer. That is our name. Yet you deny us even this courtesy. You, the white-skinned, jaundice-haired apes of this godsforsaken frozen wilderness. To you Nords, we are the gray ones, the ashen-skinned, the "dark elves" of Morrowind who have as much place in your land as an infection in an open wound.

Oh yes, we have read your great cultural work, "Nords of Skyrim," in which you extol the many virtues of your people and province, and invite any visitors to come experience your homeland for themselves. Well come we did, Nords, and the reception was less than was promised - but exactly what we expected.

So I, Atal Sarys, Dunmer and immigrant to Skyrim, have decided to answer your beloved book with a work of my own. And let all who read it know that Nords are not the only race to reside in this cold and inhospitable realm. For we dark elves have come, and little by little, shall claim Skyrim as our own.

But where, you may ask, have we taken up residence? Why none other than the ancient city of Windhelm, once the capital of the First Empire. Yes, Nords, in the shadow of your own Palace of the Kings, where the Nord hero Ysgramor once held court, we now thrive. Oh yes. Your beloved Five Hundred Companions may have driven our ancestors from Skyrim, but that was then. This is now.

Indeed, one might be surprised as to just how well we've settled into Windhelm. The district once known as the Snow Quarter is thus named no more. Now, they call it the Gray Quarter, for such is the reality of the Dunmer occupation. The district is now populated entirely by my kind, a victory not lost on its residents.

Oh, but the peaceful occupation goes even further. Thirsty? You'll find no Nord mead hall in the Gray Quarter. But the spirits flow well enough in the New Gnisis Cornerclub. Seeking a respected family? You'll find no Gray-Manes within these walls. But perhaps you'd like to pay a visit to the home of Belyn Hlaalu, descendant of one of the most noble houses in all of Morrowind. Ah, but no. You Nords don't come to the Gray Quarter, do you? You fear our streets as you fear our skin.

So now, "children of Skyrim," you have the truth of it. You may call this province home, but you can no sooner claim to own it than a cow can claim to own its master's field. You are just another breed of domestic animal, grazing stupidly while higher beings plot your slaughter.

Source (http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dunmer_of_Skyrim)

OnePercent
Monday, August 6th, 2012, 06:19 AM
Just wait until you reach Sovengarde (the Nord version of Valhalla) and have to cross the whale-bridge in to the massive drinking hall of the champions. That level sent chills down my spine :) And the musical score is just amazing. I am not going to mention the number of hours I have put into this game (it would just be embarrassing ;)), but I can say that I have beaten about 95% of the game and I have to say that I am completely impressed.



I haven't played the game yet, how did they handle the whole Stormcloaks wanting to get rid of the non-nords issue? Because the last thing I would want to deal with in such a fantasy game with a european/nordic setting would be non-white immigration and being lectured in a PC manner about the evils of racism.

I'm quite skeptical about such topics being injected into games now, as this constant PC indoctrination already made a lot of Hollywood movies unbearable. It looks as if they're now trying to do the same with the games market as gaming got too big.


Actually, the game does not force you to choose one side or another, and the Stormcloaks are not depicted as overly "evil" or like some-kind of PC caricature of "racist Nordic people". If anything I think the game is more biased in favor of the Stormcloaks because their leaders and main characters all have well-reasoned and rational arguments for why Skyrim should break free from the Empire. The Imperials, on the other hand, are quite obviously under the thumb of a sinister group of elves called the "Thalmor" who hate humans and who control the Empire through a secret cabal (sound familar?). Also, the Imperial leaders look down on the native Nords and will often say insulting things to Nordic characters, even if you join their side.

In fact, Skyrim's treatment of race has received a fair amount of criticism from the left-wing wackjobs of the internet, who argue that the game is "racist" because it acts like race is a real thing (because as any good Marxist knows, race is an artificial construct of capitalist systems :thumbdown) and it gives the Redguards (the blacks of the elder scrolls game world) a racial disadvantage to wisdom or intelligence (incidentally the Nords have the same disadvantage, both because they are not magically inclined groups). Here is an article that sums up this idiotic line of marxist criticism:

http://bitmob.com/articles/understanding-the-other-racism-in-skyrim

Here is another one that will really piss you off, "Minority Gamer" basically draws parallels between the Stormcloaks of the game and white-power site Stormfront.

http://minoritygamer.com/archives/388

Sindig_og_stoisk
Wednesday, August 8th, 2012, 08:23 AM
I have played some Skyrim and watched friends complete the game. (The game is actually never completed: When you finish both the Main Quest and the Civil War a few pieces of dialogue will change but the game simply continues).

As for the main plot, I believe the game deliberately sought to make both sides morally ambivalent, so that the player can freely choose either side and interpret his or her involvement with them as he or she pleases:

The Stormcloaks appear to be a lot more popular. Most of them do appear to be motivated by a genuine desire to free their country and their religion from outside influence and are a compelling bunch of people in general. However, among their sympathizers are also drunken idiots who throw wild accusations at any non-Nords and one of the Stormcloak Jarls is an old man who irrationally claims that a Stormcloak victory is inevitable because Talos (Skyrim's Odin) is on their side and he neglects the security of his own realm and sends more of his forces then he can spare to the front, believing that everything will sort itself out on its own.
When Whiterun is captured by Stormcloaks, a pro-Imperial Nord family has their home ransacked and their fortunes stolen by a anti-Imperial Nord family while non-Nords in the city apparently resume their normal lives. It gives you the impression that many Stormcloaks are rather indifferent towards the overall objective of freeing Skyrim of non-Nords and are instead taking the opportunity to settle old grudges.

The Imperials are given a bad start as the game begins with the player being unjustly captured by them and sentenced to death. During the first hour of gameplay the player will even travel through an Imperial torture chamber! "Keeping the peace", indeed...
It is also true as mentioned that many Imperial officers are condescending towards Nords and their culture. The player will also experience a pro-Imperial Nord merchant who is perfectly clear about the fact that he sees his support of the Empire mostly as a prudent financial investment.
However, many pro-Imperial Jarls are more positive characters and see Skyrim as having an important role to play in the Empire. The second-in-command of the Imperial Legion in Skyrim is a Nord and many Nords are enlisted members of the Legion. Many pro-Imperial Jarls argue that the Stormcloaks are accomplishing nothing more than causing disunity among the races of Men, to the great joy and advantage of the Mer (Elves).

Essentially, I was surprised by how mature and sophisticated the plot actually is. However, I also got the clear impression that the Main Plot deliberately avoids decisively settling anything because there has to be room for expansion packs and downloadable content, which is a great disappointment.

GroeneWolf
Saturday, August 18th, 2012, 03:37 PM
I haven't played the game yet, how did they handle the whole Stormcloaks wanting to get rid of the non-nords issue?

Having played the game with characters on both sides I would say that the most it is being brought up in that sometimes Nord npc's scream "Skyrim is for the Nords" during battle. And if a city is taken by the Stormcloaks non-Nords shopkeepers talk about they are getting less business because Stormcloaks do not want to do business with them. Besides Talos shrines being reinstated, like in Solitude where in the temple of the Divines the shrine of Talos is restored.

It seems more to do with religion and the imperial government being perceived as puppets of the Altmeri Dominion.


I have played some Skyrim and watched friends complete the game. (The game is actually never completed: When you finish both the Main Quest and the Civil War a few pieces of dialogue will change but the game simply continues).

Which is actually a bit weak. Since after you have beaten Alduin the story of the dragonborn should be over. Since that is basically the A-plot and the civil war being the B-plot. Also it seems they have put very little effort in creating really different ways the story could go between start and end. In large lines it will remain the same.


However, among their sympathizers are also drunken idiots who throw wild accusations at any non-Nords

Which should not be hold against the Stormcloaks. Also the second in command of the Legion in Skyrim is not fully trusted by her soldiers because they suspect she might be sympathetic with Ulfric.


and one of the Stormcloak Jarls is an old man who irrationally claims that a Stormcloak victory is inevitable because Talos (Skyrim's Odin)

He is not really their version of Odin;) .


is on their side and he neglects the security of his own realm and sends more of his forces then he can spare to the front, believing that everything will sort itself out on its own.

In the believe that a best defense is good offense. And also if you talk to the head of Rorikville you get to hear that so many soldiers have been send to the front lines that are not enough left to protect the small towns or deal with bandits. And they fall under the jarl of Whiterun.

Also the Empire basically installs a female crime lord in Riften after taking it. and of the other imperial jarls seems to be more obsessed with her visions then with governing.


When Whiterun is captured by Stormcloaks, a pro-Imperial Nord family has their home ransacked and their fortunes stolen by a anti-Imperial Nord family while non-Nords in the city apparently resume their normal lives.

If I remember correctly they state that is only a matter of time before they will be robbed clean. And they do not say anything about their house being looted. The head of their rival family does become the new jarl however.


The Imperials are given a bad start as the game begins with the player being unjustly captured by them and sentenced to death. During the first hour of gameplay the player will even travel through an Imperial torture chamber! "Keeping the peace", indeed...

Actually pretty normal in pre-modern days. Also if you read the books you discover how Ulfric put down the forsworn rebellion. Makes that one torture-room pale in context.


The second-in-command of the Imperial Legion in Skyrim is a Nord and many Nords are enlisted members of the Legion.

And like I said before she not fully trusted. It would be only a matter of time before she gets on the wrong kind of attention from a Thalmor justicar.


Many pro-Imperial Jarls argue that the Stormcloaks are accomplishing nothing more than causing disunity among the races of Men, to the great joy and advantage of the Mer (Elves).

It seems more like they want the civil war to continue so it would make sure that the empire would have keep on devoting resources in putting down the rebellion. A stormcloak victory is actually seen as undesirable by them. And if the Stormcloaks take Markath the local Thalmor leader is killed off screen.


Essentially, I was surprised by how mature and sophisticated the plot actually is. However, I also got the clear impression that the Main Plot deliberately avoids decisively settling anything because there has to be room for expansion packs and downloadable content, which is a great disappointment.

Yeah, they could have put more effort in the how the story plays out for different characters, instead of only minor differences at best.

Englisc
Monday, June 13th, 2016, 08:04 AM
An updated version of Skyrim is coming to PC and current gen consoles in October

https://youtu.be/pF2Qw9BI6Rg?t=198

Nice, but I hope they don't charge full price for what you can get for free if you have the right mods.

I guess this is a stopgap between Skyrim and the next Elder Scrolls, perhaps to be revealed next year. I wonder what the theme of the next one - I don't think people will accept a rather generic world like Oblivion.